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Re: Past Due
« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2013, 06:05:00 PM »
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I'm 520 days quit and was hit HARD with anxiety/depression early on.  Went on a Lex/klonopin combo.  It helped immensely.  Quitting was stil hard but at least my body wasn't going spazz.

I got of the Lex fairly easy after 8 months, but still use the Klonopin (clonazeapam).  Turns out that I was using Nic to avoid dealing with some of the tougher parts of "life".

Recently I had been feeling very "blah", nothing to do with nic cravings or anything, again just "life" stuff.

Ill be damned if the doc didn't put me on a low dose of bupropin.  Says it can put a bit of a pep in my step and lower some of my anxiety.  A different approach to just popping a klonopin when Im feeling some anxiety.  Says that's more so for sever anxiety/panic attacks.

So far I haven't felt much different, but its only been a couple days.  I hate taking meds, but I also hate feeling like shit.

I tried the tough guy stuff, but I just couldn't shake it all.  At least not yet.

Doc says there is no reason to believe I can't be med free one day. Actually I was for a bit but, but then started feeling anxious again.  He says 520 days quit is great but compared to 15 years of abuse, there is still some issues coming to the surface.  If I have to use meds as an assist, I will.

Does that make me a pussy?

Don't care.

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It does not make you a pussy whatsoever. It makes you a rational human who is in control over their body. That anxiety feeling is something you can't explain to anyone who's never felt it. Stay quit diesel and keep preaching the good word. We're all little addicts with a variety of coping skills. Quit. Are you getting this Allen?
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Re: Past Due
« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2013, 05:59:00 PM »
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I'm 520 days quit and was hit HARD with anxiety/depression early on. Went on a Lex/klonopin combo. It helped immensely. Quitting was stil hard but at least my body wasn't going spazz.

I got of the Lex fairly easy after 8 months, but still use the Klonopin (clonazeapam). Turns out that I was using Nic to avoid dealing with some of the tougher parts of "life".

Recently I had been feeling very "blah", nothing to do with nic cravings or anything, again just "life" stuff.

Ill be damned if the doc didn't put me on a low dose of bupropin. Says it can put a bit of a pep in my step and lower some of my anxiety. A different approach to just popping a klonopin when Im feeling some anxiety. Says that's more so for sever anxiety/panic attacks.

So far I haven't felt much different, but its only been a couple days. I hate taking meds, but I also hate feeling like shit.

I tried the tough guy stuff, but I just couldn't shake it all. At least not yet.

Doc says there is no reason to believe I can't be med free one day. Actually I was for a bit but, but then started feeling anxious again. He says 520 days quit is great but compared to 15 years of abuse, there is still some issues coming to the surface. If I have to use meds as an assist, I will.

Does that make me a pussy?

Don't care.

Quit on...
It does not make you a pussy whatsoever. It makes you a rational human who is in control over their body. That anxiety feeling is something you can't explain to anyone who's never felt it. Stay quit diesel and keep preaching the good word. We're all little addicts with a variety of coping skills. Quit. Are you getting this Allen?
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Re: Past Due
« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2013, 01:38:00 AM »
I'm 520 days quit and was hit HARD with anxiety/depression early on. Went on a Lex/klonopin combo. It helped immensely. Quitting was stil hard but at least my body wasn't going spazz.

I got of the Lex fairly easy after 8 months, but still use the Klonopin (clonazeapam). Turns out that I was using Nic to avoid dealing with some of the tougher parts of "life".

Recently I had been feeling very "blah", nothing to do with nic cravings or anything, again just "life" stuff.

Ill be damned if the doc didn't put me on a low dose of bupropin. Says it can put a bit of a pep in my step and lower some of my anxiety. A different approach to just popping a klonopin when Im feeling some anxiety. Says that's more so for sever anxiety/panic attacks.

So far I haven't felt much different, but its only been a couple days. I hate taking meds, but I also hate feeling like shit.

I tried the tough guy stuff, but I just couldn't shake it all. At least not yet.

Doc says there is no reason to believe I can't be med free one day. Actually I was for a bit but, but then started feeling anxious again. He says 520 days quit is great but compared to 15 years of abuse, there is still some issues coming to the surface. If I have to use meds as an assist, I will.

Does that make me a pussy?

Don't care.

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Re: Past Due
« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2013, 08:56:00 AM »
Allen,
Just checking in to see how the wellbutrin is working for you. The first two weeks of quitting i suffered anxiety attacks that had me curled up in a ball on the couch. I was scared to try and do anything, no even go for a normal walk with the dog. Outside it was sunny and beautiful but in my head the world fell apart.
I wanted to medicate but my doctor is my father in law and i hadnt told him about chewing at that point. I drank whiskey and that took the edge off. This feeling lasted a bit over two weeks for me and i never want to feel it again.
I ask about the wellbutrin because i spent a couple months on Lexepro in college after my fathers death. Both are SSRI's i believe, meaning they target seretonin levels in the brain.(not sure how much you get into pharmacology). Since you mentioned depression on earlier quits it reminded me of how i felt on Lexepro. I would be walking to class and it would be the grayest rainy day ever, yet i had that feeling of a sunny day in june. I knew it was false but that is the best way i can describe it. Not euphoric, but contentment, chemical contentment. I would have continued with Lex had it not been for the sexual consequences. I could fuck as long as i wanted but never, never, bust a nut. My girlfriend at the time (now my wife) thought she was doing something wrong and finally i just said no more lexepro, its time to deal with life's emotions as they happen.
So how is the wellbutrin? If it gets you over the early phase of quitting thats great. I suspect that down the road you are still going to have to deal with the real emotions of quitting. No matter what, stay quit. Im here if you need anything.
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Re: Past Due
« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2013, 05:40:00 PM »
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Dr LOOT told me to stick my nuts in a blender and I would totally forget about any anxiety or nic cravings. I chose a different path similar to yours. I'm sure there are quite a few of us who self medicated with nicotine. The ultimate goal is to be drug free but depression is nothing to fuck with. Make sure you see a professional to see what drives your anxiety and the natural remedies for it. I used to think my anxiety was a strength instead of something I didn't need to live with. Overcoming it is hard work just like quitting but if you can do one you can do the other
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Re: Past Due
« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2013, 04:54:00 PM »
Dr LOOT told me to stick my nuts in a blender and I would totally forget about any anxiety or nic cravings. I chose a different path similar to yours. I'm sure there are quite a few of us who self medicated with nicotine. The ultimate goal is to be drug free but depression is nothing to fuck with. Make sure you see a professional to see what drives your anxiety and the natural remedies for it. I used to think my anxiety was a strength instead of something I didn't need to live with. Overcoming it is hard work just like quitting but if you can do one you can do the other
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Re: Past Due
« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2013, 03:34:00 PM »
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I tried to quit around 15yrs. ago which lasted about two weeks.All I Iremember was getting depressed like shit, didnt have any tools such as Kill the Can to help. I cant really tell if the meds. are working or not. It does Make me focus better. I still had all of those withdraw symptoms for the first week. This time around I dont give a crap what I need to do, or what I need to take, I will Quit.
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Re: Past Due
« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2013, 02:57:00 PM »
I tried to quit around 15yrs. ago which lasted about two weeks.All I Iremember was getting depressed like shit, didnt have any tools such as Kill the Can to help. I cant really tell if the meds. are working or not. It does Make me focus better. I still had all of those withdraw symptoms for the first week. This time around I dont give a crap what I need to do, or what I need to take, I will Quit.
I am still recovering from my Melonoma Surgery on my leg. It was two cancer cells starting to split. They removed maybe a small ice cream scoop of tissue. then a skin graft to repair the hole. All I can think about is taking an ice cream scoop amount of tissue out of my mouth.
Thanks for you support.

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Re: Past Due
« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2013, 11:39:00 AM »
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Wellbutrin to get off nicotine?  One chemical to get off another chemical, to me.  Don't want to criticize here, I applaud your choice.  But you don't need that shit. 

I'm not criticizing doctors, but every problem looks like a nail if all you have is a hammer.  If you're good and goddam serious about quitting dipping, you can.  Just post roll and keep your word.  (There's no co-pay for that there advice).

Go cold turkey and embrace the white-knuckled, no sleep, consitpated, sweats, anxiety-filled days and nights that follow...because THOSE are the good times.  Those wonderful withdrawal symptoms remind you that you are living free of nicotine and you are earning your freedom!!!

The bad news is that nobody gets freedom for the asking.  You have to earn it.  But the good news is that you can.  Click on the quit groups...not just your own, but a bunch of them.  Click through the different years.  Look at all of those names.  There were ALL right where you are now.  YOU GOT THIS!!!
As long as it isn't nicotine I say go for it.
Opinions are like assholes...everyone has one.

Today I am 596 days quit. Being quit was easy and then I began to crave again. It pissed me off!

This site teaches you the methodology on how to quit. I back that 100%. However, there is also recovery. Quitting, not to be dramatic...is a traumatic event.

Is it good for you to quit tobacco? Of course. Better to be quit at all costs. However, you have to recover. I may be quit 596 days but I ate too much, I drank and I tried to fill the void.

If your doctor tells you to take wellbutrin, do it. If you don't, you will self medicate with alcohol, porn or some other thing to destroy what you want to fix. Again, Tobacco causes cancer so quitting this garbage is first but realize you need to recover and seek ways to do better.

You are simply asking for help. Stay quit on tobacco here but keep searching for ways to cope and recover. Without the addiction or poison.

This shit is evil and recovery not only quitting is the work you want to do.
Count me in, I have both, an asshole and an opinion. I've taken Wellbutrin for over 15 years. I never took it to quit nicotine but for anxiety. I now realize that I used nicotine to cope with depression and anxiety (at least I thought it helped). When nicotine no longer would meet my needs I had a severe mental breakdown. I increased my meds and nicotine use for another dozen years till I crashed again. I quit nicotine after 40+ years and still take Wellbutrin and another antidepressant. There are plenty of quitters here that are in the medical field but none of them are your personal physician. Do what you need to do to free yourself from nicotine and live a life free of anxiety and depression. From my prospective depression can be every bit as fatal as cancer from nicotine. Even though I've quit using nicotine I may still die as a result of those years of abuse but I now recognize the signs of my deteriorating mental health and know that I can manage it with meds and I won't die by suicide. For me after 578 days I'm finally getting better at ODAAT (with life not just quitting).
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Re: Past Due
« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2013, 09:44:00 PM »
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Wellbutrin to get off nicotine?  One chemical to get off another chemical, to me.  Don't want to criticize here, I applaud your choice.  But you don't need that shit. 

I'm not criticizing doctors, but every problem looks like a nail if all you have is a hammer.  If you're good and goddam serious about quitting dipping, you can.  Just post roll and keep your word.  (There's no co-pay for that there advice).

Go cold turkey and embrace the white-knuckled, no sleep, consitpated, sweats, anxiety-filled days and nights that follow...because THOSE are the good times.  Those wonderful withdrawal symptoms remind you that you are living free of nicotine and you are earning your freedom!!!

The bad news is that nobody gets freedom for the asking.  You have to earn it.  But the good news is that you can.  Click on the quit groups...not just your own, but a bunch of them.  Click through the different years.  Look at all of those names.  There were ALL right where you are now.  YOU GOT THIS!!!
As long as it isn't nicotine I say go for it.
Opinions are like assholes...everyone has one.

Today I am 596 days quit. Being quit was easy and then I began to crave again. It pissed me off!

This site teaches you the methodology on how to quit. I back that 100%. However, there is also recovery. Quitting, not to be dramatic...is a traumatic event.

Is it good for you to quit tobacco? Of course. Better to be quit at all costs. However, you have to recover. I may be quit 596 days but I ate too much, I drank and I tried to fill the void.

If your doctor tells you to take wellbutrin, do it. If you don't, you will self medicate with alcohol, porn or some other thing to destroy what you want to fix. Again, Tobacco causes cancer so quitting this garbage is first but realize you need to recover and seek ways to do better.

You are simply asking for help. Stay quit on tobacco here but keep searching for ways to cope and recover. Without the addiction or poison.

This shit is evil and recovery not only quitting is the work you want to do.
Count me in, I have both, an asshole and an opinion. I've taken Wellbutrin for over 15 years. I never took it to quit nicotine but for anxiety. I now realize that I used nicotine to cope with depression and anxiety (at least I thought it helped). When nicotine no longer would meet my needs I had a severe mental breakdown. I increased my meds and nicotine use for another dozen years till I crashed again. I quit nicotine after 40+ years and still take Wellbutrin and another antidepressant. There are plenty of quitters here that are in the medical field but none of them are your personal physician. Do what you need to do to free yourself from nicotine and live a life free of anxiety and depression. From my prospective depression can be every bit as fatal as cancer from nicotine. Even though I've quit using nicotine I may still die as a result of those years of abuse but I now recognize the signs of my deteriorating mental health and know that I can manage it with meds and I won't die by suicide. For me after 578 days I'm finally getting better at ODAAT (with life not just quitting).
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Re: Past Due
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2013, 07:13:00 PM »
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Quote from: Bean
Wellbutrin to get off nicotine?  One chemical to get off another chemical, to me.  Don't want to criticize here, I applaud your choice.  But you don't need that shit. 

I'm not criticizing doctors, but every problem looks like a nail if all you have is a hammer.  If you're good and goddam serious about quitting dipping, you can.  Just post roll and keep your word.  (There's no co-pay for that there advice).

Go cold turkey and embrace the white-knuckled, no sleep, consitpated, sweats, anxiety-filled days and nights that follow...because THOSE are the good times.  Those wonderful withdrawal symptoms remind you that you are living free of nicotine and you are earning your freedom!!!

The bad news is that nobody gets freedom for the asking.  You have to earn it.  But the good news is that you can.  Click on the quit groups...not just your own, but a bunch of them.  Click through the different years.  Look at all of those names.  There were ALL right where you are now.  YOU GOT THIS!!!
As long as it isn't nicotine I say go for it.
Opinions are like assholes...everyone has one.

Today I am 596 days quit. Being quit was easy and then I began to crave again. It pissed me off!

This site teaches you the methodology on how to quit. I back that 100%. However, there is also recovery. Quitting, not to be dramatic...is a traumatic event.

Is it good for you to quit tobacco? Of course. Better to be quit at all costs. However, you have to recover. I may be quit 596 days but I ate too much, I drank and I tried to fill the void.

If your doctor tells you to take wellbutrin, do it. If you don't, you will self medicate with alcohol, porn or some other thing to destroy what you want to fix. Again, Tobacco causes cancer so quitting this garbage is first but realize you need to recover and seek ways to do better.

You are simply asking for help. Stay quit on tobacco here but keep searching for ways to cope and recover. Without the addiction or poison.

This shit is evil and recovery not only quitting is the work you want to do.
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Re: Past Due
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2013, 05:45:00 PM »
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Wellbutrin to get off nicotine? One chemical to get off another chemical, to me. Don't want to criticize here, I applaud your choice. But you don't need that shit.

I'm not criticizing doctors, but every problem looks like a nail if all you have is a hammer. If you're good and goddam serious about quitting dipping, you can. Just post roll and keep your word. (There's no co-pay for that there advice).

Go cold turkey and embrace the white-knuckled, no sleep, consitpated, sweats, anxiety-filled days and nights that follow...because THOSE are the good times. Those wonderful withdrawal symptoms remind you that you are living free of nicotine and you are earning your freedom!!!

The bad news is that nobody gets freedom for the asking. You have to earn it. But the good news is that you can. Click on the quit groups...not just your own, but a bunch of them. Click through the different years. Look at all of those names. There were ALL right where you are now. YOU GOT THIS!!!
As long as it isn't nicotine I say go for it.
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Re: Past Due
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2013, 04:13:00 PM »
Wellbutrin to get off nicotine? One chemical to get off another chemical, to me. Don't want to criticize here, I applaud your choice. But you don't need that shit.

I'm not criticizing doctors, but every problem looks like a nail if all you have is a hammer. If you're good and goddam serious about quitting dipping, you can. Just post roll and keep your word. (There's no co-pay for that there advice).

Go cold turkey and embrace the white-knuckled, no sleep, consitpated, sweats, anxiety-filled days and nights that follow...because THOSE are the good times. Those wonderful withdrawal symptoms remind you that you are living free of nicotine and you are earning your freedom!!!

The bad news is that nobody gets freedom for the asking. You have to earn it. But the good news is that you can. Click on the quit groups...not just your own, but a bunch of them. Click through the different years. Look at all of those names. There were ALL right where you are now. YOU GOT THIS!!!

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Re: Past Due
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2013, 03:51:00 PM »
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I told her I didnt want to do the nicotine replacement. I told her that I quit ten years ago, for two weeks, and got depressed for a while. She perscribed Wellbutrin for the depression this time. She said start the meds and record how much copenhagen I used daily. At week three decrease use by 1/2, then week 4 decrease by 1/2 again. Pick a day at the end of week 4 for a stop date. So thats what I did. I also planed ahead and took a week off from work during hell week.
my doctor put me on wellbutrin, i used wellbutrin starting in Sept of 2012 and was suppose to quit on Oct 15th. That came and went and then I quit chewing on Nov 17th and started using nicorette. Then i stopped the Nicorette on Dec 23rd. I continued to use the well butrin through August of this year. When I went off the wellbutrin I had a rough few days, but was able to get over it without tapering down.

So my point is Wellbutrin worked for me. I should have probably tapered down on it rather then stopping it cold turkey, but was able to get through it. Congrats on your quit.
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Re: Past Due
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2013, 03:22:00 PM »
I told her I didnt want to do the nicotine replacement. I told her that I quit ten years ago, for two weeks, and got depressed for a while. She perscribed Wellbutrin for the depression this time. She said start the meds and record how much copenhagen I used daily. At week three decrease use by 1/2, then week 4 decrease by 1/2 again. Pick a day at the end of week 4 for a stop date. So thats what I did. I also planed ahead and took a week off from work during hell week.