Ninja Dipstick

[traumagnet]

http://www.killthecan.org/facts/contract.asp

jgrem.......Are you being honest?

For you to know who wrote the contract tells me that you have been around A LOT longer than you say....As far as I know, the only place that it says who wrote that is on a website that stopped being active 8 years ago or so.....

You're pretty freak in quiet since 2 admin have visited your thread....hmmm

[Remshot]

http://www.killthecan.org/facts/contract.asp

jgrem.......Are you being honest?

For you to know who wrote the contract tells me that you have been around A LOT longer than you say....As far as I know, the only place that it says who wrote that is on a website that stopped being active 8 years ago or so.....

[jgrem]

I'm so fucking confused right now as to what the hell the admin wants from me? What do yall want from me? IDK where exactly the letter came from. I found it on the site when I was here the first time. When I failed at quitting after 23 days. The link is the one I found today on this website.
Here it is: Contract to Give Up

I give up my quit. Quitting is impossible and I cannot do it. I love dipping more than I love myself. I care about dipping more than I care about my personal health. I love dipping more than I love my family. I know this addiction will kill me, and I ACCEPT that fact. I enjoy spending time alone with my can more than I enjoy spending time with anyone else on the planet. I look forward to losing my jaw, my tongue, my throat, my life - it's worth it. When I am lying in my hospital bed fighting a losing battle against cancer I will feel a sense of satisfaction knowing that this is the path I CHOSE. My only regret will be that I didn't start dipping earlier in life. I will feel sorrow for my familyÂ’s heartbreak and suffer untold pain, but I know you must sacrifice for the things you truly love.

I know ALL the consequences of my actions and I accept them fully and without regret. I hereby choose to give my life to this addiction - I do so with a smile on face.

Signature: ____________________
Date: ____________________
- See more at: http://www.killthecan.org/facts/contrac ... c5BhD.dpuf

It is under well I found it by hitting the "Quit Links" then searching "contract" It is the first one that pops up.

Back to My quit. DAMN If I can get through this shit, giving up the can will be a joke! I know it is fucking hard , read the contract and imagine having to sign and giving it to your wife. Now imagine your wife didn't know you dipped, had stopped dipping, had quit on your quit.

[Ready]

http://www.killthecan.org/facts/contract.asp

Your sig line says you will never again sign that. Did you at one time sign that?

What's with the link to the contract? What's that supposed to mean?

Who are you?

Why are you here?

My spidey sense is tingling.

Short leash friend.

Get in front of this or get rolled over by it.

[Ready]

http://www.killthecan.org/facts/contract.asp

Your sig line says you will never again sign that. Did you at one time sign that?

What's with the link to the contract? What's that supposed to mean?

Who are you?

Why are you here?

[jgrem]

http://www.killthecan.org/facts/contract.asp

[traumagnet]

Other than the dentist... MY girls and my wife are ME. There is nothing more that I want for myself than to be able to be around them longer. The username to me makes no difference. no matter if I post on here or not. I have to quit every day when i wake up with every single breath i take. As I am writing this my gums are sore from the weekend fishing trip with the guys. I've had enough. I need more life and less dip.

To think that I just learned about cancer is hilarious. No, I did recently learn about the many many many athletes, professional, college, football, baseball, athletes, like myself that have to get heart surgery because they have a 75-90% blockage of the arteries. We all will most likely get some sort of cancer in our lives but most of us only get one heart. The fact that I could at any minute collapse in a heart attack and die scares the shit out of me.

I am sorry to hear your daughter has cancer and I hope the new move is a good opportunity for you and your kids.

I quit with you

Thank you, she's doing great. Cancer free for three years.

I get the health reasons. I'll tell you a secret... I was a smoker and probably my number one reason I didn't want to smoke anymore was vanity. I like how I look and I like my voice and I'd like to keep it that way.

We all have our reasons to stop but that's just it. They are reasons to STOP. I was a serial stopper. Told myself more times than I can count that I was going to "quit" because I started coughing or I couldn't exercise without my lungs burning or I saw some woman with a ton of wrinkles and a cigarette dangling from her lips. But then I'd feel better and hell... I still look good! I can go to a party and have "just one". After all, I've got it beat. I'm "no longer addicted" and "work has been so stressful". Within a week every time I was back to a pack a day. And then I'd start the cycle again with all my good reasons for stopping.

You stopped jgrem. What we need to know is what makes this time a quit and not a stop.

This question would be a piece of cake for me and for every one of my quit brothers and sisters on this site. We want to know what you have to say.

Hey jgrem,

Glad you are here. I read the posts on your thread and they make me proud. Why? They illustrate why this place works. You have joined a den of addicts. A den of liars. I should know, I am not a unique and special butterfly, I am addict. At some point, we got tired of the lies and the slavery and said enough is enough. We are the toughest, most honest, most compassionate people you will meet. We are your quit Sherpas. We know the way.

What needs to happen now is you need to find your previous identity and own your past. When you own your past, you can create your future. 1 day at a time.

Jgrem,
I have been reading your thread so far and have not seen real answers. What does make me happy is that a newbie quitter has drank the koolaid, it is obvious because he gave you very good advice...(JRizz...I quit with you)

I can help you with the third question....get involved take an active interest in this quit...give your number out this time that is accountability... I am not sure what your old numbers were for posts and roll, but I would be willing to say very low. I know that if I left this site for a day my phone would blow up....with accountability like that it keeps the nic bitch at a distance. Also you need to listen learn and read read read. no more bullshit no more sad stories expose your weaknesses and hold on brother for the ride....you SHOULD also go over and check out Cbirds post today....follow that plan.

pm if you need help or my digits...but we need to get you back to your other screen name....give real answers that people can learn from to help them not cave.
T

[Scowick65]

Other than the dentist... MY girls and my wife are ME. There is nothing more that I want for myself than to be able to be around them longer. The username to me makes no difference. no matter if I post on here or not. I have to quit every day when i wake up with every single breath i take. As I am writing this my gums are sore from the weekend fishing trip with the guys. I've had enough. I need more life and less dip.

To think that I just learned about cancer is hilarious. No, I did recently learn about the many many many athletes, professional, college, football, baseball, athletes, like myself that have to get heart surgery because they have a 75-90% blockage of the arteries. We all will most likely get some sort of cancer in our lives but most of us only get one heart. The fact that I could at any minute collapse in a heart attack and die scares the shit out of me.

I am sorry to hear your daughter has cancer and I hope the new move is a good opportunity for you and your kids.

I quit with you

Thank you, she's doing great. Cancer free for three years.

I get the health reasons. I'll tell you a secret... I was a smoker and probably my number one reason I didn't want to smoke anymore was vanity. I like how I look and I like my voice and I'd like to keep it that way.

We all have our reasons to stop but that's just it. They are reasons to STOP. I was a serial stopper. Told myself more times than I can count that I was going to "quit" because I started coughing or I couldn't exercise without my lungs burning or I saw some woman with a ton of wrinkles and a cigarette dangling from her lips. But then I'd feel better and hell... I still look good! I can go to a party and have "just one". After all, I've got it beat. I'm "no longer addicted" and "work has been so stressful". Within a week every time I was back to a pack a day. And then I'd start the cycle again with all my good reasons for stopping.

You stopped jgrem. What we need to know is what makes this time a quit and not a stop.

This question would be a piece of cake for me and for every one of my quit brothers and sisters on this site. We want to know what you have to say.

Hey jgrem,

Glad you are here. I read the posts on your thread and they make me proud. Why? They illustrate why this place works. You have joined a den of addicts. A den of liars. I should know, I am not a unique and special butterfly, I am addict. At some point, we got tired of the lies and the slavery and said enough is enough. We are the toughest, most honest, most compassionate people you will meet. We are your quit Sherpas. We know the way.

What needs to happen now is you need to find your previous identity and own your past. When you own your past, you can create your future. 1 day at a time.

[LionHeartedGirl]

Other than the dentist... MY girls and my wife are ME. There is nothing more that I want for myself than to be able to be around them longer. The username to me makes no difference. no matter if I post on here or not. I have to quit every day when i wake up with every single breath i take. As I am writing this my gums are sore from the weekend fishing trip with the guys. I've had enough. I need more life and less dip.

To think that I just learned about cancer is hilarious. No, I did recently learn about the many many many athletes, professional, college, football, baseball, athletes, like myself that have to get heart surgery because they have a 75-90% blockage of the arteries. We all will most likely get some sort of cancer in our lives but most of us only get one heart. The fact that I could at any minute collapse in a heart attack and die scares the shit out of me.

I am sorry to hear your daughter has cancer and I hope the new move is a good opportunity for you and your kids.

I quit with you

Thank you, she's doing great. Cancer free for three years.

I get the health reasons. I'll tell you a secret... I was a smoker and probably my number one reason I didn't want to smoke anymore was vanity. I like how I look and I like my voice and I'd like to keep it that way.

We all have our reasons to stop but that's just it. They are reasons to STOP. I was a serial stopper. Told myself more times than I can count that I was going to "quit" because I started coughing or I couldn't exercise without my lungs burning or I saw some woman with a ton of wrinkles and a cigarette dangling from her lips. But then I'd feel better and hell... I still look good! I can go to a party and have "just one". After all, I've got it beat. I'm "no longer addicted" and "work has been so stressful". Within a week every time I was back to a pack a day. And then I'd start the cycle again with all my good reasons for stopping.

You stopped jgrem. What we need to know is what makes this time a quit and not a stop.

This question would be a piece of cake for me and for every one of my quit brothers and sisters on this site. We want to know what you have to say.

[jgrem]

Other than the dentist... MY girls and my wife are ME. There is nothing more that I want for myself than to be able to be around them longer. The username to me makes no difference. no matter if I post on here or not. I have to quit every day when i wake up with every single breath i take. As I am writing this my gums are sore from the weekend fishing trip with the guys. I've had enough. I need more life and less dip.

To think that I just learned about cancer is hilarious. No, I did recently learn about the many many many athletes, professional, college, football, baseball, athletes, like myself that have to get heart surgery because they have a 75-90% blockage of the arteries. We all will most likely get some sort of cancer in our lives but most of us only get one heart. The fact that I could at any minute collapse in a heart attack and die scares the shit out of me.

I am sorry to hear your daughter has cancer and I hope the new move is a good opportunity for you and your kids.

I quit with you

[JRizzle]

Jesse, I'd like to support you on your quit. But this whole situation feels sketchy.

What was the contract/what did it say?

Your answers to the questions seem abbreviated. What specifically triggered your relapse? And why did this happen? And how are you going to prevent this from happening again? Really, how do we know that you're not going to fall back in and discourage us in the process?

Also, you talk about quitting for your wife, for your kids and for your dentist. You need to quit for you. Because you want to. Because you need to. Because it's the way to get freedom in your life. People talk about the importance of not quitting for other people so you don't end up resenting them during the quit. That's true. But I also think it's important to quit for you because your wife is going to piss you off sometime during the quit. So will your kids. So will (possibly, depending on your relationship) your dentist. If you make your quit about them and not about you, then you really threaten your quit whenever you get into an argument at home. When your quit is about you, you will realize that you control your actions and responses; it's not dependent on the way that others make you feel.

I'd love to take this journey with you. But I need affirmation that you're legitimately about this before I can.

[LionHeartedGirl]

so you were here 10 months ago??? what was your screne name then?
1. what happened?---- Lack of sleep, stressed at work, life basically.
2. why did it happen? ----New baby, promotion (more responsibility= stress)
3. and what are you going to do different this time besides change back to your other name?--- Well the last 10 months have been full of research and talking to my best friend about people he knows through medical school that are in their early 30's late 20's and are/were athletes that had to have heart surgeries or cancer removed. Just, knowledge is power and with power comes fear and with fear comes action. Dip had knowledge that I didn't...

I'm going through a divorce. My financial security is incredibly vulnerable. I have two children who put my stress level over the top some days. I'm moving to a new city and dealing with a whole host of other stresses that are too personal to put out here. Basically I haven't really slept in a year.

Also, my daughter had cancer and that didn't get me to quit. And I have a very hard time believing you just heard about cancer and its risks in the last ten months.

So is your new quit plan really to make sure you never have stress in your life again and to keep expanding your newfound disease knowledge? Cause I have to be honest... That's dumb.

[SirDerek]

They are all bullshit answers, I KNOW. Something I am much better prepared for now. I still need to take the bashing for being an idiot and I am willing to accept it but I can't remember any of the info from the last time. I remember Nicbitches something but that is it... I had a hard time figuring out the website and roll call. I have already devoted 4 hours of work time today to figure it out. My health comes first now.

just remember that the honesty of your answers is what you need so you can learn from what happened so you can move forward. Just like when we write goals down to give us that visual target, the answers to the big 3, give us a roadmap to ride this wild rollercoaster of quit with success.

I quit with you today....

[cdaniels]

They are all bullshit answers, I KNOW. Something I am much better prepared for now. I still need to take the bashing for being an idiot and I am willing to accept it but I can't remember any of the info from the last time. I remember Nicbitches something but that is it... I had a hard time figuring out the website and roll call. I have already devoted 4 hours of work time today to figure it out. My health comes first now.

I have sent a pm to an Admin. you are done here until we retrive your other name. one of the golden rules here is to not post useing different names. so please stand by. untill then think long and hard about the three questions.

[jgrem]

They are all bullshit answers, I KNOW. Something I am much better prepared for now. I still need to take the bashing for being an idiot and I am willing to accept it but I can't remember any of the info from the last time. I remember Nicbitches something but that is it... I had a hard time figuring out the website and roll call. I have already devoted 4 hours of work time today to figure it out. My health comes first now.