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Offline Matt F

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Re: New Guy, Need Someone to Help Calm my Nerves
« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2013, 10:35:00 AM »
How's it going J. I thought I read you were out of this site, hope I'm wrong. What's up,hope you still quit. Each person brings something to the table and you should PM if there's anything I can do to help. PM or text if you need me or someone to post roll. Most of all stay in touch and I quit with you today.

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Re: New Guy, Need Someone to Help Calm my Nerves
« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2013, 10:39:00 AM »
Joe - Thanks for your post and your honesty. These guys are giving you the best advice. In fact - reading their posts to you motivated me to go see my doctor. I was probably just as scared - if not more than you.

Went to my doctor yesterday and all is well. I cannot tell you how much better that simple, quick little visit with old sawbones did for me.

I have chewed in one way or another, for some time for 20+ years.
I chewed Cope for 12 years.
I was going heavy duty over the last 5 years 1.5 cans Cope per day.

So, yeah - I was scared to talk with the doc. DO IT. You will feel better once you get some time with the doctor.

PS - thanks to all my brothers out here who encouraged Joe and I to go see the doctor.
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Re: New Guy, Need Someone to Help Calm my Nerves
« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2013, 05:09:00 AM »
Hey Joe, keep it up. Walls of text are OK, a lot of people actually read them. I've gotten a ton of support from this site and I'm doing better than I deserve to steal an expression, so throw me a PM if there's anything you need. Stay quit, I see you post roll early. GOOD JOB

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Re: New Guy, Need Someone to Help Calm my Nerves
« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2013, 10:13:00 AM »
Anyone like Chess? I have an account on CHess.com, I'd love to play a telephone game with anyone who wants!

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Re: New Guy, Need Someone to Help Calm my Nerves
« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2013, 09:02:00 PM »
Joe, welcome. I understand the fear. You dipped for four years. I dipped for thirty years.

Fear made me quit. It made me weak in some ways, such as crying on the phone to the lady in the dentist's office when I made an appointment. I quit and my mouth started hurting and that lasted at least two weeks. Jaw, tongue, gums, throat, and even my neck...which turned out to be lymph nodes screaming for the tobacco poison I'd fed them for decades.

But, the fear made me strong, too. It made me decide never to use tobacco again. I'm stronger today than I've ever been in my life.

Go to a dentist. Be completely honest with the lady who answers the phone as to why you want the appointment. The woman I spoke with set me up for an hour-long appointment and the dentist sat and just talked with me for about half that time, which was a strange experience in a dentist's office. Usually they just clean your teeth and out you go but this was very different. Tell the dentist if you drink alcohol too and ask him what he thinks about the combination of smokeless tobacco and alcohol.

The best feeling in the world is hearing you don't have cancer.

But, like not using tobacco, that is only for today. Still, it's the best thing you can do, especially right now when you're scared.

I know the fear you're feeling because today is only Day 31 for me and I'm still scared, but going to the dentist was a great thing for me. Do it.

I'm going on too long now so I'll close with this: I wish more than anything that I would have had the guts and the wisdom to quit when I was your age.

Go post roll and stay strong. Read a lot here and make some friends and keep your word.

Best wishes.

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Re: New Guy, Need Someone to Help Calm my Nerves
« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2013, 04:33:00 PM »
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there is a post of mine that might help any questions sent me a pm. Glad you have chosen to quit today.
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Re: New Guy, Need Someone to Help Calm my Nerves
« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2013, 02:37:00 PM »
Quote from: 30isEnuff
Quote from: Wade
Quote from: JNEly
Very astute, WastePanel. Though it is one affected by a foreign influence (addiction), the decision to use is ultimately a personal choice. I'm going to go ahead and figure out how to post on to rollcall now!
Wastepanel, and all the other veterans on this site know exactly what they are talking about. We've all been EXACTLY where you are. We know what your brain is telling you. Our brains have all done the same damn thing, over and over again. I took a temporary hiatus from nicotine many times before I finally said enough! Light your boats on fire, turn around and walk away, and NEVER look back. Make a conscious decision in your mind to NEVER ever use nicotine in any form again. As you walk further and further away from it, it gets easier and easier every day.

The best thing you can do right now is post roll, drink lots water, and work out. Chew gum, sunflower seeds, anything but nicotine. Caving is not an option, do something else.
What the brothers have said X 1000!!!

Personally, this is my first and last quit. I would rather be dead than be a slave to a poison that killed half of my family. 'Crazy'
The choice is mine every a.m. and I post roll with Sept '12 because I know better and prefer life over death every day that ends with a 'Y'! :)

you can do this if you rrrreeeeaaaallllyyyy want to. The tools are here...use the tools and the brotherhood and your quit days will stack up quicker than you ever thought possible!! 'zombie'

Welcome to taking your life back.
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Re: New Guy, Need Someone to Help Calm my Nerves
« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2013, 01:27:00 PM »
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Quote from: JNEly
Very astute, WastePanel. Though it is one affected by a foreign influence (addiction), the decision to use is ultimately a personal choice. I'm going to go ahead and figure out how to post on to rollcall now!
Wastepanel, and all the other veterans on this site know exactly what they are talking about. We've all been EXACTLY where you are. We know what your brain is telling you. Our brains have all done the same damn thing, over and over again. I took a temporary hiatus from nicotine many times before I finally said enough! Light your boats on fire, turn around and walk away, and NEVER look back. Make a conscious decision in your mind to NEVER ever use nicotine in any form again. As you walk further and further away from it, it gets easier and easier every day.

The best thing you can do right now is post roll, drink lots water, and work out. Chew gum, sunflower seeds, anything but nicotine. Caving is not an option, do something else.
What the brothers have said X 1000!!!

Personally, this is my first and last quit. I would rather be dead than be a slave to a poison that killed half of my family. 'Crazy'
The choice is mine every a.m. and I post roll with Sept '12 because I know better and prefer life over death every day that ends with a 'Y'! :)

you can do this if you rrrreeeeaaaallllyyyy want to. The tools are here...use the tools and the brotherhood and your quit days will stack up quicker than you ever thought possible!! 'zombie'

Welcome to taking your life back.
Cheers.
Keeping my jaw and tongue...I like them.
It's poison I tell ya, You wouldn't drink Liquid Drano, would ya?

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Re: New Guy, Need Someone to Help Calm my Nerves
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2013, 01:21:00 PM »
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Very astute, WastePanel. Though it is one affected by a foreign influence (addiction), the decision to use is ultimately a personal choice. I'm going to go ahead and figure out how to post on to rollcall now!
Wastepanel, and all the other veterans on this site know exactly what they are talking about. We've all been EXACTLY where you are. We know what your brain is telling you. Our brains have all done the same damn thing, over and over again. I took a temporary hiatus from nicotine many times before I finally said enough! Light your boats on fire, turn around and walk away, and NEVER look back. Make a conscious decision in your mind to NEVER ever use nicotine in any form again. As you walk further and further away from it, it gets easier and easier every day.

The best thing you can do right now is post roll, drink lots water, and work out. Chew gum, sunflower seeds, anything but nicotine. Caving is not an option, do something else.

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Re: New Guy, Need Someone to Help Calm my Nerves
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2013, 12:07:00 PM »
Very astute, WastePanel. Though it is one affected by a foreign influence (addiction), the decision to use is ultimately a personal choice. I'm going to go ahead and figure out how to post on to rollcall now!

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Re: New Guy, Need Someone to Help Calm my Nerves
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2013, 11:46:00 AM »
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Over the past two months, I've 'quit' twice. I failed after the first attempt because I thought I had lost my job due to a misunderstanding between my bosses. I felt bad about myself, and I soothed my pain by filling my mouth with nicotine. I didn't dip for two weeks after that, but then just said "fuck it" and dipped. I've bought four or five tins (can't remember) over two weeks, and now am right back where I started.
You didn't quit at all in the last two months.

You temporarily stopped.

And you didn't fail because you lost your job. You failed because you chose to use nicotine. It didn't just fall from the heavens as your boss pierced you with stress. He didn't hold your lip open and shove it in there as he kicked you out of his office.

Nope.

You went someplace, found some nicotine, made a conscious decision to use it, and did.

You need to realize both of those things before this quit sticks. You can't control a damn thing in this world except for your actions. You can do this. You just need to want to.

The first 3-5 days are hell, but it gets better. Our program here works because we ask you to quit for today and today only. If that's too long, quit for the next 30 seconds. There is no magic formula to being quit long term except that a bunch of moments adds up to forever. We don't count by 2s or 5s here. Just one moment at a time.

You can do this because we are.
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Re: New Guy, Need Someone to Help Calm my Nerves
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2013, 11:32:00 AM »
Joe you have gotten some great advice from some badd ass quitters. We can be a little tough at times so be ready for that, everyone is just helping sure you up for your quit. Go to those links Cbird gave you!!!!! And remember we are doing this with you and it's gonnna hurt, it's gonna suck, it's gonna be pure unadulterated hell, trust me mine was, but it is simple, post roll (you word to not use nicotine in any form) and then keep you damn word one day at a time, and walla your quit. Simple but not easy, difficult but not impossible, we all did it. I will quit with you every day just go read and post roll.
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Re: New Guy, Need Someone to Help Calm my Nerves
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2013, 11:17:00 AM »
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Hi all,

My name is Joe, and I've been dipping for the past four years. Ipicked up the habit my Sophomore year of College, where I bought a tin for the first time coming back from Thanksgiving vacation (I remember it very well). At that point, it probably took me two weeks to go through a single tin. I dipped fairly irregularly up until my second semester Junior year. By the time I was a first semester senior, I was dipping all the time, usually around two tins a week. Now, two years on, I can (with some difficulty) finish a tin a day, and generally buy around 3-4 tins a week.

Over the past year, I've noticed that my gums are starting to recede to a significant degree. The back of my throat feels dry, and sometime hurts. I try to drink a lot of water, but it only helps sometimes.

Quite simply, I've started to feel the tangible effects of what tobacco does to one's body. I am shitting a brick that I've developed some form of cancer, and I would like to stop dipping.

Over the past two months, I've 'quit' twice. I failed after the first attempt because I thought I had lost my job due to a misunderstanding between my bosses. I felt bad about myself, and I soothed my pain by filling my mouth with nicotine.  I didn't dip for two weeks after that, but then just said "fuck it" and dipped. I've bought four or five tins (can't remember) over two weeks, and now am right back where I started.

I know its a huge wall of text, but I'm super apprehensive about the incidence of cancer in dippers and how shitty it would be to go out because of a stupid habit.

SO...what's up every body. I don't want to die!
Hey Joe,

You've come to the right place. Read as much as you can. You are not alone in this. We've all been there and we're all fighting the same evil bitch. One day at a time.

Sending you a PM with my digits.

Dump your can and give your promise to not use nicotine today by posting roll. This ain't gonna be easy. Stock up on some things to help with the oral fixation. Sunflower seeds, jolly ranchers, atomic fireballs and Smokey Mountain are my weapons of choice.

Schedule an appt with your dentist ASAP and get checked out. I neglected my dental health for a long time and now I'm paying for it. I was relieved to not have any signs of cancer.

You got this. I'm quitting with you.

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Re: New Guy, Need Someone to Help Calm my Nerves
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2013, 11:15:00 AM »
I didn't use the words 'hope' or 'try' anywhere. But to be clear, I am going to quit dipping, starting today.

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Re: New Guy, Need Someone to Help Calm my Nerves
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2013, 11:11:00 AM »
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Hi all,

My name is Joe, and I've been dipping for the past four years. Ipicked up the habit my Sophomore year of College, where I bought a tin for the first time coming back from Thanksgiving vacation (I remember it very well). At that point, it probably took me two weeks to go through a single tin. I dipped fairly irregularly up until my second semester Junior year. By the time I was a first semester senior, I was dipping all the time, usually around two tins a week. Now, two years on, I can (with some difficulty) finish a tin a day, and generally buy around 3-4 tins a week.

Over the past year, I've noticed that my gums are starting to recede to a significant degree. The back of my throat feels dry, and sometime hurts. I try to drink a lot of water, but it only helps sometimes.

Quite simply, I've started to feel the tangible effects of what tobacco does to one's body. I am shitting a brick that I've developed some form of cancer, and I would like to stop dipping.

Over the past two months, I've 'quit' twice. I failed after the first attempt because I thought I had lost my job due to a misunderstanding between my bosses. I felt bad about myself, and I soothed my pain by filling my mouth with nicotine. I didn't dip for two weeks after that, but then just said "fuck it" and dipped. I've bought four or five tins (can't remember) over two weeks, and now am right back where I started.

I know its a huge wall of text, but I'm super apprehensive about the incidence of cancer in dippers and how shitty it would be to go out because of a stupid habit.

SO...what's up every body. I don't want to die!
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in terms of the "health" issues, a lot of the anxiety is pretty fucking normal.
You will want to see your GP and Dentist if you haven't for a while.

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