nTH time trying to Quit - First time poster

[CleanFuel]

Saw you reading you intro for quite a while tonight, kind of tells me you want some help but by reading through here I am guessing your pride won't let you ask for it again. I also see you weren't really given the basics so here is my standard intro reply:

Well here is the deal with KTC, we are basically a cold turkey program, we don't utilize nicotine replacement therapy such as nicorette gum.

We come in each day and promise to our brothers that we will remain quit for the rest of the day, the next day we come and do the same thing.

People come in here and bust balls, they go in the chat and talk about the issues they are having, they call fellow quit group members and ask for help. We remain quit one day at a time.

We have milestones, the biggest and the first is reaching 100 days quit without NRT, this is called the Hall of Fame, the time when you reach HOF is your quit group so if you quit today you would be in the October 2013 group.

When in your group you post roll call, this is your promise to quit today, tomorrow you come in and repeat. Remember, we are addicts, we are junkies to nicotine, it takes a strong will and assistance to stay quit.

Here is the welcome center
index.php?showforum=13

Here is how to post roll call
index.php?showtopic=50

And a little video on how to post roll call
http://www.killthecan.org/roll/

Here is the September quit group
index.php?showtopic=8419

Welcome to our group, if you buy into the program it can save your life.

Stay quit my friend.

Bigwhitebeast

I sent you a PM when you were reading but you must have missed it, try hitting the chat room when you are around, on the right side up top in black "Live Chat"

Obviously you want this so come and get it, take some lumps because we got plenty of people with opinions about your bad decisions but most imp[ortantly come around and quit.

anything new here?

[bigwhitebeast]

Saw you reading you intro for quite a while tonight, kind of tells me you want some help but by reading through here I am guessing your pride won't let you ask for it again. I also see you weren't really given the basics so here is my standard intro reply:

Well here is the deal with KTC, we are basically a cold turkey program, we don't utilize nicotine replacement therapy such as nicorette gum.

We come in each day and promise to our brothers that we will remain quit for the rest of the day, the next day we come and do the same thing.

People come in here and bust balls, they go in the chat and talk about the issues they are having, they call fellow quit group members and ask for help. We remain quit one day at a time.

We have milestones, the biggest and the first is reaching 100 days quit without NRT, this is called the Hall of Fame, the time when you reach HOF is your quit group so if you quit today you would be in the October 2013 group.

When in your group you post roll call, this is your promise to quit today, tomorrow you come in and repeat. Remember, we are addicts, we are junkies to nicotine, it takes a strong will and assistance to stay quit.

Here is the welcome center
index.php?showforum=13

Here is how to post roll call
index.php?showtopic=50

And a little video on how to post roll call
http://www.killthecan.org/roll/

Here is the September quit group
index.php?showtopic=8419

Welcome to our group, if you buy into the program it can save your life.

Stay quit my friend.

Bigwhitebeast

I sent you a PM when you were reading but you must have missed it, try hitting the chat room when you are around, on the right side up top in black "Live Chat"

Obviously you want this so come and get it, take some lumps because we got plenty of people with opinions about your bad decisions but most imp[ortantly come around and quit.

[Kubrick]

Hey Isaac  'Finger'

'bang head'  'bang head'  'bang head'

I don't get it... No roll post for three days. I checked for bumps and didn't see any but I could be wrong. You were hanging around last night too but still no post.

Tell me Isaac, what will it take to unfuck your shit? Nobody can do this for you. You have to decide... 

If your leggy assistant told you that you could reduce your risk of premature morbidity, that your trophy wife would take fewer tennis lessons, that you could actually be the hero your kids thought you were and oh yeah, your company will save a boatload of cash insuring your sorry ass if you simply decide to make a promise and stick to it each day, why wouldn't you do it?

Get in the game BRO......I gave you my number and you have not even texted....

STEP UP

All these pleas for 'help' and no response back in the thread at all. I actually Pm'ed you the morning after calling you out and I apologized.I told you I was just pissed at you for your weak ass decision to cave.I see you lurking but not posting still and it pisses me off again.Real quitters get vested with people and care about there quit.Real quitters are invaluable, real quitters save lives.I wish you luck Isaac if your not willing to listen and take notes.

Can't save them all.

I didn't see anything in his posts that made be think he really wanted to quit for him. That's why he's back to the can.

He won't quit until he really wants it. I just hope he doesn't get cancer before he gets to that point.


Think about it Issac. You're a slave to nicotine. Wouldn't you rather be free? I can tell you it's far, far superior.

[jaynellie]

Hey Isaac  'Finger'

'bang head'  'bang head'  'bang head'

I don't get it... No roll post for three days. I checked for bumps and didn't see any but I could be wrong. You were hanging around last night too but still no post.

Tell me Isaac, what will it take to unfuck your shit? Nobody can do this for you. You have to decide... 

If your leggy assistant told you that you could reduce your risk of premature morbidity, that your trophy wife would take fewer tennis lessons, that you could actually be the hero your kids thought you were and oh yeah, your company will save a boatload of cash insuring your sorry ass if you simply decide to make a promise and stick to it each day, why wouldn't you do it?

Get in the game BRO......I gave you my number and you have not even texted....

STEP UP

All these pleas for 'help' and no response back in the thread at all. I actually Pm'ed you the morning after calling you out and I apologized.I told you I was just pissed at you for your weak ass decision to cave.I see you lurking but not posting still and it pisses me off again.Real quitters get vested with people and care about there quit.Real quitters are invaluable, real quitters save lives.I wish you luck Isaac if your not willing to listen and take notes.

[CleanFuel]

Hey Isaac  'Finger'

'bang head'  'bang head'  'bang head'

I don't get it... No roll post for three days. I checked for bumps and didn't see any but I could be wrong. You were hanging around last night too but still no post.

Tell me Isaac, what will it take to unfuck your shit? Nobody can do this for you. You have to decide... 

If your leggy assistant told you that you could reduce your risk of premature morbidity, that your trophy wife would take fewer tennis lessons, that you could actually be the hero your kids thought you were and oh yeah, your company will save a boatload of cash insuring your sorry ass if you simply decide to make a promise and stick to it each day, why wouldn't you do it?

Get in the game BRO......I gave you my number and you have not even texted....

STEP UP

[copingwithoutcopen]

Hey Isaac 'Finger'

'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head'

I don't get it... No roll post for three days. I checked for bumps and didn't see any but I could be wrong. You were hanging around last night too but still no post.

Tell me Isaac, what will it take to unfuck your shit? Nobody can do this for you. You have to decide...

If your leggy assistant told you that you could reduce your risk of premature morbidity, that your trophy wife would take fewer tennis lessons, that you could actually be the hero your kids thought you were and oh yeah, your company will save a boatload of cash insuring your sorry ass if you simply decide to make a promise and stick to it each day, why wouldn't you do it?

[Tool shed]

Hey Isaac, how is it going? Be sure and let us all know. The people here are with you, we can support you you just need to stay engaged. There is no secret man, just commitment fueled with knowledge and driven by hatred for this inanimate object that has controlled us all.

[mich 34]

those all are great links by cw/oc. I do know guys here who have gone to the doctors office and I'm sure there are guys who have talked to clergy. IMHO the best way to beat this it to want to beat it, don't think it stays just like day 2 because it gets better man, Day 3 I was punching concrete and yelling at a tree. Tie a knot and hang on, power through. At this point you are almost through the physical addiction, get there - 24 more hours. From that point on it's mind games, it's still tough but look how many have done it before you, you don't think all of us are that much more bad ass than you are do you? Now get to work quitting.

[copingwithoutcopen]

I can understand as well McBee. I'm a mess and this post is a mess. 

Your the man Parputt. I'm a fucking loser you are absolutely 110% right. I won't shy away from that because this stupid ass addiction that I would not wish upon anyone. I am here, if I'm honest, because I want to have a life with my family and children that I may have jeopardized. And it scares me shitless.

Hubrick, It's not obvious I want to quit.. I'm owning to that fact that for me. I wish all things that I "enjoy" weren't bad more me, my family, and my children.  I admit I didn't come here without a precipice. 20 years of this shit. For me I needed an "event." I shared that with this community.

I'm ok with the backlash. The distraught I am feeling about this journey of mine to change my life, and I mean change my world from anything I can remember, is obviously difficult.

I read some of the other posts on this site. I read some of the date "joined" to this community. I really admire all of you. To be able to say "I beat this and I have the answer for you". I just want the answer. I want to know the secret, or the key.

If you are the get tough don't be a pussy kind of guy, I understand that, if you are the supportive guy, I understand that as well. I'm not sure what it will take.......  I don't care what it will take, I just want it to be over.

It's obvious I don't know what will finally get this thing behind me. Or I wouldn't be here. Reaching out to total strangers.

Tomorrow is day 3 of 7,300. I need to tackle that.

Can I ask this community are there any other resources I can call upon? What avenues and resources have others used to beat this shit? Is there a prescription, a doctor, or a local group, or a minister, or a church, or some thing I should consider as well considering I am totally fucked by this addiction and I'm only on day 2 of trying to fix.

Isaac,

There's no secret, there's no potion, no snake oil elixir. It comes from inside, you reach deep down and you decide nothing will derail your quit. You come here every day and read. Make your promise to these perfect strangers early every morning and honor that promise. That's it.
It's a simple formula. Get to know the folks in your quit group. Call or text someone if you need to. Be there for someone else.
After 3 days the nicotine is out of your system and the mind games begin so fight back...(underlined text are links)
Take a look at these.
Then read this.
If you're not yet motivated take a look at this.
Know thy enemy. Knowledge is power.

Just worry about today. You can do anything for a day, right?
Make your promise, honor it every day then repeat. I will never tell you I've got this beat but it does get easier each day. It has to come from you.

[isaac]

I can understand as well McBee. I'm a mess and this post is a mess.

Your the man Parputt. I'm a fucking loser you are absolutely 110% right. I won't shy away from that because this stupid ass addiction that I would not wish upon anyone. I am here, if I'm honest, because I want to have a life with my family and children that I may have jeopardized. And it scares me shitless.

Hubrick, It's not obvious I want to quit.. I'm owning to that fact that for me. I wish all things that I "enjoy" weren't bad more me, my family, and my children. I admit I didn't come here without a precipice. 20 years of this shit. For me I needed an "event." I shared that with this community.

I'm ok with the backlash. The distraught I am feeling about this journey of mine to change my life, and I mean change my world from anything I can remember, is obviously difficult.

I read some of the other posts on this site. I read some of the date "joined" to this community. I really admire all of you. To be able to say "I beat this and I have the answer for you". I just want the answer. I want to know the secret, or the key.

If you are the get tough don't be a pussy kind of guy, I understand that, if you are the supportive guy, I understand that as well. I'm not sure what it will take....... I don't care what it will take, I just want it to be over.

It's obvious I don't know what will finally get this thing behind me. Or I wouldn't be here. Reaching out to total strangers.

Tomorrow is day 3 of 7,300. I need/want to tackle that.

Can I ask this community are there any other resources I can call upon? What avenues and resources have others used to beat this shit? Is there a prescription, a doctor, or a local group, or a minister, or a church, or some thing I should consider as well considering I am totally fucked by this addiction and I'm only on day 2 of trying to fix.

[Mcbeevee]

I can understand the frustration everyone has toward the way this post has progressed. Isaac has been all over the board with his post's and he just needs to quit the "addict lingo" and own up to his own quit! Isaac, slow down and think before you hit the "add reply" button. Be the "Key Man" and inspire us!!

[Tool shed]

Last activity April 6th.  Fucking looser!   'Finger'

naw just a huge disappointment as reading back seems like superman there has forgotten that even the man of steel himself had a weakness and needed help from time to time.

Yeah - this hole thread has something weird about it.....

I agree CleanFuel there is something weird about it.If I was a betting man I'd say that Isaac is such a douche-bag pussy that he bailed before he caved.He found out this wasn't the place to be (KTC) because he couldn't be "The Man". He made a couple limp dick comments on his own thread and got called out right from the beginning.The most honorable thing to do in his addict mind was to come up with this cope-out.One thing I've learned in 65 days here is you better have some thick skin if your gonna come out and play with some weak sauce like he did. Just my .02 anyhow.

There is an old saying about coaching, criticize the play and not the player. I have been into it with several people before on this site and don't wish to get into it again, but would just like to point this out. When the jackels swarm and criticize the person, "fucking loser", "pussy douchebag", and "limp dick" they completely lose me and many on this site and often times lose the person they claim they are "trying" to help and frankly they look foolish themselves.

Please focus on the quit and not on insult the quitter. It turns off many here, a silent but large number of people who don't want to end up in your sights as they are trying to quit and help other quitters.

Best of luck Isaac and if you are serious we are here to support you all the way.

Don't like it leave. There are many "softer" ways to quit. Our way works for us.

Why the fuck do new people insist on trying to change this site. 'bang head' 'bang head'

I am not trying to change anything at this site, just keep it focused on Isaac's quit and not Isaac as a person.

Let me know if you need support Isaac. The approach and the support here can help if/when you are ready for absolute commitment. No one is perfect, certainly none of the addicts here are or we wouldn't be here but keep your chin up and stay engaged and focused. Post roll daily as a promise to stay away from nicotine, one day at a time.

Toolshed

[copingwithoutcopen]

Nice job posting up Isaac! Please don't let us down today, we'll do the same.

[Parputt]

Last activity April 6th.  Fucking looser!   'Finger'

naw just a huge disappointment as reading back seems like superman there has forgotten that even the man of steel himself had a weakness and needed help from time to time.

Yeah - this hole thread has something weird about it.....

I agree CleanFuel there is something weird about it.If I was a betting man I'd say that Isaac is such a douche-bag pussy that he bailed before he caved.He found out this wasn't the place to be (KTC) because he couldn't be "The Man". He made a couple limp dick comments on his own thread and got called out right from the beginning.The most honorable thing to do in his addict mind was to come up with this cope-out.One thing I've learned in 65 days here is you better have some thick skin if your gonna come out and play with some weak sauce like he did. Just my .02 anyhow.

There is an old saying about coaching, criticize the play and not the player. I have been into it with several people before on this site and don't wish to get into it again, but would just like to point this out. When the jackels swarm and criticize the person, "fucking loser", "pussy douchebag", and "limp dick" they completely lose me and many on this site and often times lose the person they claim they are "trying" to help and frankly they look foolish themselves.

Please focus on the quit and not on insult the quitter. It turns off many here, a silent but large number of people who don't want to end up in your sights as they are trying to quit and help other quitters.

Best of luck Isaac and if you are serious we are here to support you all the way.

Don't like it leave. There are many "softer" ways to quit. Our way works for us.

Why the fuck do new people insist on trying to change this site. 'bang head' 'bang head'

[Tool shed]

Last activity April 6th.  Fucking looser!   'Finger'

naw just a huge disappointment as reading back seems like superman there has forgotten that even the man of steel himself had a weakness and needed help from time to time.

Yeah - this hole thread has something weird about it.....

I agree CleanFuel there is something weird about it.If I was a betting man I'd say that Isaac is such a douche-bag pussy that he bailed before he caved.He found out this wasn't the place to be (KTC) because he couldn't be "The Man". He made a couple limp dick comments on his own thread and got called out right from the beginning.The most honorable thing to do in his addict mind was to come up with this cope-out.One thing I've learned in 65 days here is you better have some thick skin if your gonna come out and play with some weak sauce like he did. Just my .02 anyhow.

There is an old saying about coaching, criticize the play and not the player. I have been into it with several people before on this site and don't wish to get into it again, but would just like to point this out. When the jackels swarm and criticize the person, "fucking loser", "pussy douchebag", and "limp dick" they completely lose me and many on this site and often times lose the person they claim they are "trying" to help and frankly they look foolish themselves.

Please focus on the quit and not on insult the quitter. It turns off many here, a silent but large number of people who don't want to end up in your sights as they are trying to quit and help other quitters.

Best of luck Isaac and if you are serious we are here to support you all the way.