To believe in myself again

[Done4Me]

Congrats on 100 and thanks to all the vets for supporting new quitters.

[Krusty]

100!!! Congrats!!!

Right on, Rali! Congrats!

Big rally to 2-hundy coming up from May '14's Rali... Congrats  keep it up, bro!

[Doc Chewfree]

100!!! Congrats!!!

Right on, Rali! Congrats!

[slug.go]

100!!! Congrats!!!

[Minny]

It's March 15th - day 45. I want to get some thoughts down :
- I passed my nicotine test at work this past week, two years previous I would quit for the test and then resume using.  Glad that I haven't used this as a reason to use this year.  Staying QUIT.
- Still quite fuzzy at not functioning normally. My motivation is still severely lacking. Not to many positive thoughts.
- Still quite constipated - even wondering if I gave myself a hernia from pushing so hard.
- I had a great vacation with my wife last week but I'm now 6 days back to work and not very much liking it.  The one good thing is that I see some other "idiots" still using dip. I should get back on task now.
- Very much debating if I tell my boys at my Hall of Fame date that I used tobacco and hid it from them for many years.  I came so close to getting caught by them - like around 65 days ago when I was dipping next to my 10yr old son on the chairlift while skiing.  It was night and cold so the dark and my neck gaiter helped me hide it.  I also remember this same son saying "I want a mint" after my can of crap was open on the way to a football game.  Two boys in the back seat at that time.  I passed them gum instead.  I'm having a tough time debating between teaching them (boys 10,9,7) that tobacco is evil versus admitting that their Dad was so stupid for so long. 

Former Ninja dippers - give me some advice about telling others (loved ones) that you used to dip.  

Thanks for everyone posing on their introduction pages - it helps to hear others stories.

I'm struggling with virtually this same exact issue, regarding talking to your kids about tobacco. Mine are 11,6,5. So I'm looking forward to responses on this Rali, because I was a ninja dipper too

I'm so glad you guys are quitting while your kids are little. My son, who turns 22 today NEVER saw me without a dip in. Thank God he never wanted to be like me in that regard. I lucked out with him. Good for you guys that aren't leaving it to total chance like I did. I say come clean with them, use it as an opportunity to teach them. It might mean more and hit a little harder coming first hand from their Dads.

Nice 45 days Ralipaul! Keep at it today.

Pretty interesting conversation... I know my dad smoked all his life and I vowed I would not be like him. I never smoked so I did not go there, but I dipped for 25 years and ended up exactly like him. Same poison... different delivery method.

I think we have a responsibility to teach our kids. Figure out when and how to do it, but it is they same as telling them to look both ways before crossing the street. In the end it will be their decision on what they do, but you need to plant the seed to steer them the right way.

Rali - Noting that I'm obviously no veteran but just a guy that has vowed to get the back of a handful of quality, fellow quitters in Mayhem (like you), I couldn't agree more with derk40's perspective. I'm virtually identical to him (and, presumably, a lot of others on KTC) in terms of having a father who smoked well into my formative years before quitting -- as well as being the kid who said he'd never take up that "habit", only to become haplessly addicted to one just as lethal and even more powerful. I've got a son, and, while he's still pretty young, I'm already having the conversation in my head that I think will ultimately be had with him.

I'm sure there are plenty that will disagree, but I put a fair amount of stock in the notion that there's a hereditary tendency to addictive behaviors. Acknowledging that nicotine is an addictive chemical if anyone sticks with it long enough, it becomes a pretty damning indictment when someone who needs some element of routine starts incorporating the chemical into their life, even if it just starts off as a fun, sneaky thing to do with friends.

My own view is that I owe it to my kid(s) to give them the most complete picture on a topic that can kill them. Personally being able to (eventually) tell my son about several generations of nicotine addiction would hopefully resonate more than a health teacher droning on about the dangers of all forms of chemical addictions. Again, just one guy's view, but refreshing to know there's a lot of other admirable people thinking about the same thing.

Rali - I don't have any kids. Read my intro, my grandfather got me started on the shit. My Dad never chewed to my knowledge. He also never talked to me about nicotine addiction. Even when he saw me take a swig of coke and spit it out to be like Pa Pa. I can't say that I never would have started if my Dad talked to me about nicotine...but I might not. If it keeps one of your boys from starting, do it. You will feel responsible if they ever start and you did nothing to help...

You'll know when the time is right to talk to your kids. Just focus on quitting for now.

The fog, lack of concentration and ambition is still pretty normal at this point. You'll break out of it, just keep plugging away. The positive thoughts will come back.

Constipation....water water and more water. Seems like your body would have figured it out by now, but it hasn't....it's still adjusting.

I don't know how long you dipped, but you can't fix many years of stupid in 45 days. Just keep plugging away and you will be amazed at the freedom you will find.

I don't think that telling your kids should make you feel stupid. Everyone here fell victim to the NB. It's not stupidity. It was weakness and then dependence.

You made the SMART decision to quit and you're a stronger person because of it. Focus on that!

Hey Paul,
Did you ever end up telling them? I don't think there's a clear answer, but for what it's worth, I think that telling them about your addiction will do two things: 1) burn the hell out of anything that remains of the bridge back to addiction. Telling your kids that you're QUIT for life is powerful. 2) It might keep them from ever trying the poison. They ARE going to see it around their peers, and soon. You'll have a lot more credibility with them if they know that you struggled. After all, they're getting awfully close to the age of "knowing everything", if they aren't already there.

[Doc Chewfree]

Hey Paul,
Check out my intro. I told my son about my quit. I think it was important.
PM me if you want to talk bout it.
Quit with you.

Doc

[MonsterMedic]

It's March 15th - day 45. I want to get some thoughts down :
- I passed my nicotine test at work this past week, two years previous I would quit for the test and then resume using.  Glad that I haven't used this as a reason to use this year.  Staying QUIT.
- Still quite fuzzy at not functioning normally. My motivation is still severely lacking. Not to many positive thoughts.
- Still quite constipated - even wondering if I gave myself a hernia from pushing so hard.
- I had a great vacation with my wife last week but I'm now 6 days back to work and not very much liking it.  The one good thing is that I see some other "idiots" still using dip. I should get back on task now.
- Very much debating if I tell my boys at my Hall of Fame date that I used tobacco and hid it from them for many years.  I came so close to getting caught by them - like around 65 days ago when I was dipping next to my 10yr old son on the chairlift while skiing.  It was night and cold so the dark and my neck gaiter helped me hide it.  I also remember this same son saying "I want a mint" after my can of crap was open on the way to a football game.  Two boys in the back seat at that time.  I passed them gum instead.  I'm having a tough time debating between teaching them (boys 10,9,7) that tobacco is evil versus admitting that their Dad was so stupid for so long. 

Former Ninja dippers - give me some advice about telling others (loved ones) that you used to dip.  

Thanks for everyone posing on their introduction pages - it helps to hear others stories.

I'm struggling with virtually this same exact issue, regarding talking to your kids about tobacco. Mine are 11,6,5. So I'm looking forward to responses on this Rali, because I was a ninja dipper too

I'm so glad you guys are quitting while your kids are little. My son, who turns 22 today NEVER saw me without a dip in. Thank God he never wanted to be like me in that regard. I lucked out with him. Good for you guys that aren't leaving it to total chance like I did. I say come clean with them, use it as an opportunity to teach them. It might mean more and hit a little harder coming first hand from their Dads.

Nice 45 days Ralipaul! Keep at it today.

Pretty interesting conversation... I know my dad smoked all his life and I vowed I would not be like him. I never smoked so I did not go there, but I dipped for 25 years and ended up exactly like him. Same poison... different delivery method.

I think we have a responsibility to teach our kids. Figure out when and how to do it, but it is they same as telling them to look both ways before crossing the street. In the end it will be their decision on what they do, but you need to plant the seed to steer them the right way.

Rali - Noting that I'm obviously no veteran but just a guy that has vowed to get the back of a handful of quality, fellow quitters in Mayhem (like you), I couldn't agree more with derk40's perspective. I'm virtually identical to him (and, presumably, a lot of others on KTC) in terms of having a father who smoked well into my formative years before quitting -- as well as being the kid who said he'd never take up that "habit", only to become haplessly addicted to one just as lethal and even more powerful. I've got a son, and, while he's still pretty young, I'm already having the conversation in my head that I think will ultimately be had with him.

I'm sure there are plenty that will disagree, but I put a fair amount of stock in the notion that there's a hereditary tendency to addictive behaviors. Acknowledging that nicotine is an addictive chemical if anyone sticks with it long enough, it becomes a pretty damning indictment when someone who needs some element of routine starts incorporating the chemical into their life, even if it just starts off as a fun, sneaky thing to do with friends.

My own view is that I owe it to my kid(s) to give them the most complete picture on a topic that can kill them. Personally being able to (eventually) tell my son about several generations of nicotine addiction would hopefully resonate more than a health teacher droning on about the dangers of all forms of chemical addictions. Again, just one guy's view, but refreshing to know there's a lot of other admirable people thinking about the same thing.

Rali - I don't have any kids. Read my intro, my grandfather got me started on the shit. My Dad never chewed to my knowledge. He also never talked to me about nicotine addiction. Even when he saw me take a swig of coke and spit it out to be like Pa Pa. I can't say that I never would have started if my Dad talked to me about nicotine...but I might not. If it keeps one of your boys from starting, do it. You will feel responsible if they ever start and you did nothing to help...

You'll know when the time is right to talk to your kids. Just focus on quitting for now.

The fog, lack of concentration and ambition is still pretty normal at this point. You'll break out of it, just keep plugging away. The positive thoughts will come back.

Constipation....water water and more water. Seems like your body would have figured it out by now, but it hasn't....it's still adjusting.

I don't know how long you dipped, but you can't fix many years of stupid in 45 days. Just keep plugging away and you will be amazed at the freedom you will find.

I don't think that telling your kids should make you feel stupid. Everyone here fell victim to the NB. It's not stupidity. It was weakness and then dependence.

You made the SMART decision to quit and you're a stronger person because of it. Focus on that!

[redtrain14]

It's March 15th - day 45. I want to get some thoughts down :
- I passed my nicotine test at work this past week, two years previous I would quit for the test and then resume using.  Glad that I haven't used this as a reason to use this year.  Staying QUIT.
- Still quite fuzzy at not functioning normally. My motivation is still severely lacking. Not to many positive thoughts.
- Still quite constipated - even wondering if I gave myself a hernia from pushing so hard.
- I had a great vacation with my wife last week but I'm now 6 days back to work and not very much liking it.  The one good thing is that I see some other "idiots" still using dip. I should get back on task now.
- Very much debating if I tell my boys at my Hall of Fame date that I used tobacco and hid it from them for many years.  I came so close to getting caught by them - like around 65 days ago when I was dipping next to my 10yr old son on the chairlift while skiing.  It was night and cold so the dark and my neck gaiter helped me hide it.  I also remember this same son saying "I want a mint" after my can of crap was open on the way to a football game.  Two boys in the back seat at that time.  I passed them gum instead.  I'm having a tough time debating between teaching them (boys 10,9,7) that tobacco is evil versus admitting that their Dad was so stupid for so long. 

Former Ninja dippers - give me some advice about telling others (loved ones) that you used to dip.  

Thanks for everyone posing on their introduction pages - it helps to hear others stories.

I'm struggling with virtually this same exact issue, regarding talking to your kids about tobacco. Mine are 11,6,5. So I'm looking forward to responses on this Rali, because I was a ninja dipper too

I'm so glad you guys are quitting while your kids are little. My son, who turns 22 today NEVER saw me without a dip in. Thank God he never wanted to be like me in that regard. I lucked out with him. Good for you guys that aren't leaving it to total chance like I did. I say come clean with them, use it as an opportunity to teach them. It might mean more and hit a little harder coming first hand from their Dads.

Nice 45 days Ralipaul! Keep at it today.

Pretty interesting conversation... I know my dad smoked all his life and I vowed I would not be like him. I never smoked so I did not go there, but I dipped for 25 years and ended up exactly like him. Same poison... different delivery method.

I think we have a responsibility to teach our kids. Figure out when and how to do it, but it is they same as telling them to look both ways before crossing the street. In the end it will be their decision on what they do, but you need to plant the seed to steer them the right way.

Rali - Noting that I'm obviously no veteran but just a guy that has vowed to get the back of a handful of quality, fellow quitters in Mayhem (like you), I couldn't agree more with derk40's perspective. I'm virtually identical to him (and, presumably, a lot of others on KTC) in terms of having a father who smoked well into my formative years before quitting -- as well as being the kid who said he'd never take up that "habit", only to become haplessly addicted to one just as lethal and even more powerful. I've got a son, and, while he's still pretty young, I'm already having the conversation in my head that I think will ultimately be had with him.

I'm sure there are plenty that will disagree, but I put a fair amount of stock in the notion that there's a hereditary tendency to addictive behaviors. Acknowledging that nicotine is an addictive chemical if anyone sticks with it long enough, it becomes a pretty damning indictment when someone who needs some element of routine starts incorporating the chemical into their life, even if it just starts off as a fun, sneaky thing to do with friends.

My own view is that I owe it to my kid(s) to give them the most complete picture on a topic that can kill them. Personally being able to (eventually) tell my son about several generations of nicotine addiction would hopefully resonate more than a health teacher droning on about the dangers of all forms of chemical addictions. Again, just one guy's view, but refreshing to know there's a lot of other admirable people thinking about the same thing.

Rali - I don't have any kids. Read my intro, my grandfather got me started on the shit. My Dad never chewed to my knowledge. He also never talked to me about nicotine addiction. Even when he saw me take a swig of coke and spit it out to be like Pa Pa. I can't say that I never would have started if my Dad talked to me about nicotine...but I might not. If it keeps one of your boys from starting, do it. You will feel responsible if they ever start and you did nothing to help...

You'll know when the time is right to talk to your kids. Just focus on quitting for now.

The fog, lack of concentration and ambition is still pretty normal at this point. You'll break out of it, just keep plugging away. The positive thoughts will come back.

Constipation....water water and more water. Seems like your body would have figured it out by now, but it hasn't....it's still adjusting.

I don't know how long you dipped, but you can't fix many years of stupid in 45 days. Just keep plugging away and you will be amazed at the freedom you will find.

[rtpope]

It's March 15th - day 45. I want to get some thoughts down :
- I passed my nicotine test at work this past week, two years previous I would quit for the test and then resume using.  Glad that I haven't used this as a reason to use this year.  Staying QUIT.
- Still quite fuzzy at not functioning normally. My motivation is still severely lacking. Not to many positive thoughts.
- Still quite constipated - even wondering if I gave myself a hernia from pushing so hard.
- I had a great vacation with my wife last week but I'm now 6 days back to work and not very much liking it.  The one good thing is that I see some other "idiots" still using dip. I should get back on task now.
- Very much debating if I tell my boys at my Hall of Fame date that I used tobacco and hid it from them for many years.  I came so close to getting caught by them - like around 65 days ago when I was dipping next to my 10yr old son on the chairlift while skiing.  It was night and cold so the dark and my neck gaiter helped me hide it.  I also remember this same son saying "I want a mint" after my can of crap was open on the way to a football game.  Two boys in the back seat at that time.  I passed them gum instead.  I'm having a tough time debating between teaching them (boys 10,9,7) that tobacco is evil versus admitting that their Dad was so stupid for so long. 

Former Ninja dippers - give me some advice about telling others (loved ones) that you used to dip.  

Thanks for everyone posing on their introduction pages - it helps to hear others stories.

I'm struggling with virtually this same exact issue, regarding talking to your kids about tobacco. Mine are 11,6,5. So I'm looking forward to responses on this Rali, because I was a ninja dipper too

I'm so glad you guys are quitting while your kids are little. My son, who turns 22 today NEVER saw me without a dip in. Thank God he never wanted to be like me in that regard. I lucked out with him. Good for you guys that aren't leaving it to total chance like I did. I say come clean with them, use it as an opportunity to teach them. It might mean more and hit a little harder coming first hand from their Dads.

Nice 45 days Ralipaul! Keep at it today.

Pretty interesting conversation... I know my dad smoked all his life and I vowed I would not be like him. I never smoked so I did not go there, but I dipped for 25 years and ended up exactly like him. Same poison... different delivery method.

I think we have a responsibility to teach our kids. Figure out when and how to do it, but it is they same as telling them to look both ways before crossing the street. In the end it will be their decision on what they do, but you need to plant the seed to steer them the right way.

Rali - Noting that I'm obviously no veteran but just a guy that has vowed to get the back of a handful of quality, fellow quitters in Mayhem (like you), I couldn't agree more with derk40's perspective. I'm virtually identical to him (and, presumably, a lot of others on KTC) in terms of having a father who smoked well into my formative years before quitting -- as well as being the kid who said he'd never take up that "habit", only to become haplessly addicted to one just as lethal and even more powerful. I've got a son, and, while he's still pretty young, I'm already having the conversation in my head that I think will ultimately be had with him.

I'm sure there are plenty that will disagree, but I put a fair amount of stock in the notion that there's a hereditary tendency to addictive behaviors. Acknowledging that nicotine is an addictive chemical if anyone sticks with it long enough, it becomes a pretty damning indictment when someone who needs some element of routine starts incorporating the chemical into their life, even if it just starts off as a fun, sneaky thing to do with friends.

My own view is that I owe it to my kid(s) to give them the most complete picture on a topic that can kill them. Personally being able to (eventually) tell my son about several generations of nicotine addiction would hopefully resonate more than a health teacher droning on about the dangers of all forms of chemical addictions. Again, just one guy's view, but refreshing to know there's a lot of other admirable people thinking about the same thing.

Rali - I don't have any kids. Read my intro, my grandfather got me started on the shit. My Dad never chewed to my knowledge. He also never talked to me about nicotine addiction. Even when he saw me take a swig of coke and spit it out to be like Pa Pa. I can't say that I never would have started if my Dad talked to me about nicotine...but I might not. If it keeps one of your boys from starting, do it. You will feel responsible if they ever start and you did nothing to help...

[srans]

I passed my nicotine test at work this past week,

Feels good don't it. My job went tobacco free about two, three years ago. Didn't stop me either. I just hid it and went about my business. I didn't realize how good it would feel not to hide this addiction anymore. Now I watch others with the same a problem and appreciate my freedom. I don't mind saying that being quit puts tears in my eyes sometimes. Quit with you today.

[Krusty]

It's March 15th - day 45. I want to get some thoughts down :
- I passed my nicotine test at work this past week, two years previous I would quit for the test and then resume using.  Glad that I haven't used this as a reason to use this year.  Staying QUIT.
- Still quite fuzzy at not functioning normally. My motivation is still severely lacking. Not to many positive thoughts.
- Still quite constipated - even wondering if I gave myself a hernia from pushing so hard.
- I had a great vacation with my wife last week but I'm now 6 days back to work and not very much liking it.  The one good thing is that I see some other "idiots" still using dip. I should get back on task now.
- Very much debating if I tell my boys at my Hall of Fame date that I used tobacco and hid it from them for many years.  I came so close to getting caught by them - like around 65 days ago when I was dipping next to my 10yr old son on the chairlift while skiing.  It was night and cold so the dark and my neck gaiter helped me hide it.  I also remember this same son saying "I want a mint" after my can of crap was open on the way to a football game.  Two boys in the back seat at that time.  I passed them gum instead.  I'm having a tough time debating between teaching them (boys 10,9,7) that tobacco is evil versus admitting that their Dad was so stupid for so long. 

Former Ninja dippers - give me some advice about telling others (loved ones) that you used to dip.  

Thanks for everyone posing on their introduction pages - it helps to hear others stories.

I'm struggling with virtually this same exact issue, regarding talking to your kids about tobacco. Mine are 11,6,5. So I'm looking forward to responses on this Rali, because I was a ninja dipper too

I'm so glad you guys are quitting while your kids are little. My son, who turns 22 today NEVER saw me without a dip in. Thank God he never wanted to be like me in that regard. I lucked out with him. Good for you guys that aren't leaving it to total chance like I did. I say come clean with them, use it as an opportunity to teach them. It might mean more and hit a little harder coming first hand from their Dads.

Nice 45 days Ralipaul! Keep at it today.

Pretty interesting conversation... I know my dad smoked all his life and I vowed I would not be like him. I never smoked so I did not go there, but I dipped for 25 years and ended up exactly like him. Same poison... different delivery method.

I think we have a responsibility to teach our kids. Figure out when and how to do it, but it is they same as telling them to look both ways before crossing the street. In the end it will be their decision on what they do, but you need to plant the seed to steer them the right way.

Rali - Noting that I'm obviously no veteran but just a guy that has vowed to get the back of a handful of quality, fellow quitters in Mayhem (like you), I couldn't agree more with derk40's perspective. I'm virtually identical to him (and, presumably, a lot of others on KTC) in terms of having a father who smoked well into my formative years before quitting -- as well as being the kid who said he'd never take up that "habit", only to become haplessly addicted to one just as lethal and even more powerful. I've got a son, and, while he's still pretty young, I'm already having the conversation in my head that I think will ultimately be had with him.

I'm sure there are plenty that will disagree, but I put a fair amount of stock in the notion that there's a hereditary tendency to addictive behaviors. Acknowledging that nicotine is an addictive chemical if anyone sticks with it long enough, it becomes a pretty damning indictment when someone who needs some element of routine starts incorporating the chemical into their life, even if it just starts off as a fun, sneaky thing to do with friends.

My own view is that I owe it to my kid(s) to give them the most complete picture on a topic that can kill them. Personally being able to (eventually) tell my son about several generations of nicotine addiction would hopefully resonate more than a health teacher droning on about the dangers of all forms of chemical addictions. Again, just one guy's view, but refreshing to know there's a lot of other admirable people thinking about the same thing.

[mb289]

Good job on you quit Ralipaul. I also wasn't sure if I should tell my daughter. However, I decided to tell her and when I did, she told me she already knew. She told me she was very happy that I was quitting. Kids are smarter than we give them credit for. Quit on.

mb289

[Derk40]

It's March 15th - day 45. I want to get some thoughts down :
- I passed my nicotine test at work this past week, two years previous I would quit for the test and then resume using.  Glad that I haven't used this as a reason to use this year.  Staying QUIT.
- Still quite fuzzy at not functioning normally. My motivation is still severely lacking. Not to many positive thoughts.
- Still quite constipated - even wondering if I gave myself a hernia from pushing so hard.
- I had a great vacation with my wife last week but I'm now 6 days back to work and not very much liking it.  The one good thing is that I see some other "idiots" still using dip. I should get back on task now.
- Very much debating if I tell my boys at my Hall of Fame date that I used tobacco and hid it from them for many years.  I came so close to getting caught by them - like around 65 days ago when I was dipping next to my 10yr old son on the chairlift while skiing.  It was night and cold so the dark and my neck gaiter helped me hide it.  I also remember this same son saying "I want a mint" after my can of crap was open on the way to a football game.  Two boys in the back seat at that time.  I passed them gum instead.  I'm having a tough time debating between teaching them (boys 10,9,7) that tobacco is evil versus admitting that their Dad was so stupid for so long. 

Former Ninja dippers - give me some advice about telling others (loved ones) that you used to dip.  

Thanks for everyone posing on their introduction pages - it helps to hear others stories.

I'm struggling with virtually this same exact issue, regarding talking to your kids about tobacco. Mine are 11,6,5. So I'm looking forward to responses on this Rali, because I was a ninja dipper too

I'm so glad you guys are quitting while your kids are little. My son, who turns 22 today NEVER saw me without a dip in. Thank God he never wanted to be like me in that regard. I lucked out with him. Good for you guys that aren't leaving it to total chance like I did. I say come clean with them, use it as an opportunity to teach them. It might mean more and hit a little harder coming first hand from their Dads.

Nice 45 days Ralipaul! Keep at it today.

Pretty interesting conversation... I know my dad smoked all his life and I vowed I would not be like him. I never smoked so I did not go there, but I dipped for 25 years and ended up exactly like him. Same poison... different delivery method.

I think we have a responsibility to teach our kids. Figure out when and how to do it, but it is they same as telling them to look both ways before crossing the street. In the end it will be their decision on what they do, but you need to plant the seed to steer them the right way.

[Ginet]

It's March 15th - day 45. I want to get some thoughts down :
- I passed my nicotine test at work this past week, two years previous I would quit for the test and then resume using.  Glad that I haven't used this as a reason to use this year.  Staying QUIT.
- Still quite fuzzy at not functioning normally. My motivation is still severely lacking. Not to many positive thoughts.
- Still quite constipated - even wondering if I gave myself a hernia from pushing so hard.
- I had a great vacation with my wife last week but I'm now 6 days back to work and not very much liking it.  The one good thing is that I see some other "idiots" still using dip. I should get back on task now.
- Very much debating if I tell my boys at my Hall of Fame date that I used tobacco and hid it from them for many years.  I came so close to getting caught by them - like around 65 days ago when I was dipping next to my 10yr old son on the chairlift while skiing.  It was night and cold so the dark and my neck gaiter helped me hide it.  I also remember this same son saying "I want a mint" after my can of crap was open on the way to a football game.  Two boys in the back seat at that time.  I passed them gum instead.  I'm having a tough time debating between teaching them (boys 10,9,7) that tobacco is evil versus admitting that their Dad was so stupid for so long. 

Former Ninja dippers - give me some advice about telling others (loved ones) that you used to dip.  

Thanks for everyone posing on their introduction pages - it helps to hear others stories.

I'm struggling with virtually this same exact issue, regarding talking to your kids about tobacco. Mine are 11,6,5. So I'm looking forward to responses on this Rali, because I was a ninja dipper too

I'm so glad you guys are quitting while your kids are little. My son, who turns 22 today NEVER saw me without a dip in. Thank God he never wanted to be like me in that regard. I lucked out with him. Good for you guys that aren't leaving it to total chance like I did. I say come clean with them, use it as an opportunity to teach them. It might mean more and hit a little harder coming first hand from their Dads.

Another ninja here that was almost caught a few times by my son. He however never sees his dad without a fatty. Kind of a shitty place for him to be. His father always dips and he doesn't know that I did at all. I have always told him to never ever even try that crap, but whoa...what a hypocrite I will be. What does more damage? Telling him or keeping it from him? Is it the damage to what he thinks of me that I am afraid of? Is that part of "healing" and staying quit? Do I have to go through that stage as well and live that "suck"? Damn nicotine messes everything up. As for now, I am not telling him. I don't know if that is right. Time will tell as I figure it out.

[LeonardThompson]

It's March 15th - day 45. I want to get some thoughts down :
- I passed my nicotine test at work this past week, two years previous I would quit for the test and then resume using.  Glad that I haven't used this as a reason to use this year.  Staying QUIT.
- Still quite fuzzy at not functioning normally. My motivation is still severely lacking. Not to many positive thoughts.
- Still quite constipated - even wondering if I gave myself a hernia from pushing so hard.
- I had a great vacation with my wife last week but I'm now 6 days back to work and not very much liking it.  The one good thing is that I see some other "idiots" still using dip. I should get back on task now.
- Very much debating if I tell my boys at my Hall of Fame date that I used tobacco and hid it from them for many years.  I came so close to getting caught by them - like around 65 days ago when I was dipping next to my 10yr old son on the chairlift while skiing.  It was night and cold so the dark and my neck gaiter helped me hide it.  I also remember this same son saying "I want a mint" after my can of crap was open on the way to a football game.  Two boys in the back seat at that time.  I passed them gum instead.  I'm having a tough time debating between teaching them (boys 10,9,7) that tobacco is evil versus admitting that their Dad was so stupid for so long. 

Former Ninja dippers - give me some advice about telling others (loved ones) that you used to dip.  

Thanks for everyone posing on their introduction pages - it helps to hear others stories.

I'm struggling with virtually this same exact issue, regarding talking to your kids about tobacco. Mine are 11,6,5. So I'm looking forward to responses on this Rali, because I was a ninja dipper too

I'm so glad you guys are quitting while your kids are little. My son, who turns 22 today NEVER saw me without a dip in. Thank God he never wanted to be like me in that regard. I lucked out with him. Good for you guys that aren't leaving it to total chance like I did. I say come clean with them, use it as an opportunity to teach them. It might mean more and hit a little harder coming first hand from their Dads.

I agree with rdad. It's not stupid to tell your loved ones that you've been stupid. It's a gesture of trust and respect that they will appreciate always.

I tried to hide dipping from my kids for years. What I found out when I "confessed" was that they already knew, and never said anything.