The other guy...

[FLLipOut]

My 50s were your 30s. I just remember being so damn tired of quitting. I still had anxiety and craves and headaches and I just remember being so tired of it all, tired of thinking about it. All the great advice has been dispensed already. Just plough through this phase - because it is just a phase.

[realquitter]

35 days quit today. The past several days have been a nightmare. I can hardly tell a lot of difference between now and day 1. There are differences, just subtle ones.Yesterday was the first day ever I was late for roll. Not becuase o any crisis or emergency, because of cleverness. I knew I wouldn't break my word if i posted roll and I want dip. So don't post roll? Seems logical. I can just sneak out the back door, stop posting and start dipping, life returns to normal and all my problems are either solved or at the very least solvable. Think again. I followed the advise given here and began hoarding digits...so yeah, by 9ish my phone was going absolutely crazy. Here I am at work, getting the guys started and I'm about half frantic already and my phone starts going off. I answered and replied when I could, but I'm pretty sure there are still tons of people I never even was able to respond to. It works. They somehow saved me from the other guy. GET DIGITS.

So anyway...here I am 35 days in and bouncing off the walls again. I thought it was geting easier and had a few good weeks there, but now I'm not sure if I even want to be quit again, but im sure I want to be quit. I'm positive I want a dip, but thats not what I really want. I'm tired of fog, I'm tired of wanting something thats never there, I'm just tired. I'm tired of fighting it. I'm not giving up, I'm just saying...I'm damn tired of quitting, but not tired of being quit. I posted roll this morning and I didn't really want to. I want this to end and be over, but I'm not sure it ever will be. It seems really easy for others, why is it so freakin hard for me? I'm ALWAYS AWARE that I don't have any copenhagen, it NEVER goes away. Maybe for like a few minutes I forget and then I remember and my heart sinks. I don't want to think about it, it's just "there". Like it's wearing me down a little at a time. My mind feels like mush from over concentrating all the time. It's destroying my work and livelyhood, I literally haven't the head to perform efficiently most days.

Sorry this isn't the happiest update in the world, but it's real. I'm still quit physically, but mentally I want absolutely nothing to do with this quit. I do not want to be quit anymore.

I'm proud to be quit with all of you, thanks for listening.

Funks.

They're a real thing bro. You're right on track in the healing process... not that THAT helps in any way but... this is normal at the day counts you're on. I hit a massive wall in the 30s and it suuuucked ass. There is no magic formula other than the one you're doing... plowing through, plugging away, and using the people you have in your corner. Most important is that... the people who have your back.

You're not alone!

This will pass... I guarantee it.

And....better days are ahead.
Rock on, brother!

What he said ^^^ remember be the boss! This is your quit, own it! We're all right here with you in your corner. You're doing great. I know that may sound stupid to you but we've all been there and struggled just like you are but like you we chose to stay quit. Keep up the good fight and I guarantee you it will be worth every sucky moment. Damn proud to be quitting with you today!

Yeah, you want to be aware that you don't have any Copenhagen. You want to wake up in the morning and tell that bitch that you know where she is, and you aren't going there today.

It's a daily battle. As I approach a year quit, it's much easier, but it's still a daily battle.

Stay close to this site. Stay close to those who are beginning their quit. You can help them, and they will help you even more.

It's a daily battle. That's why we take it one day at a time.

^^^ what they said is gold.

It's a long road...glad you don't have to travel it alone.

Be thankful for every thought that enters your head. Whether it be what you want or not, they are there for a reason. They WILL make you stronger willed. You need the reminders that you are an addict....they come as funks, craves, however they show themselves, they may save you.

IQWYT and proud to do it.

That is a solid intro man! 36 days is badass, so don't forget to recognize how far that you have come. What people are saying about what you are feeling being normal is no lie but I know it is not any comfort to know that. I am going to take a risk and challenge you a bit, given that I do not know you. What are your plans for "the other guy", you have tied up in the other room? What I mean is as long as you keep him close and keep checking on him, he will keep searching for those conditions that it will be alright for you to cave. About four weeks into my quit, someone challenged me to declare that I had burned the boats. I thought I had, what are they talking about, I have been quit for thirty days and I ain't going back. Then why are the boats still sitting there? I was mad but then I thought about it. I had a real sick love affair with nicotine, and I was really torn between taking back my life and letting a selfish habit poison me to death in front of my family. I had to start asking myself some tough questions. What if I got cancer today and then it didn't matter, I had already ruined my health, would I feel sorry for myself and dip? What if I lost my job? What if my whole family died? These were not easy questions, but all of a sudden I could see all these boats on my shore. Truth is I was spending a lot of time taking care of them on the beach, which kept me from figuring out how to live on the island. Maybe this is like you with "the other guy" tied up in the other room.

Quitting has to be 100% for yourself and really freedom does not come until you decide, "Hell NO, I ain't ever going back!". Not because I had a bad day, not for one more time just for old time sake, not because I forgot to post roll, not even if the most horrible thing happened to me. I may have failed in the past but I am going to quit or die trying!

Once you decide and make sure there is no way back, which is what your promise does in here by the way, then you can be free to figure out how to live with out it. "The other guy" is a coward and he is tricky but the truth is he cant make you do anything you don't want to do. He is wearing you down because he is searching for that condition that will make you cave. Once there is a condition then it just becomes a negotiation. Tell him there is no way and no how and then tell him to leave! You have a lot of support in here and you are wise to lean on it. Just keep deciding one day at a time that you won't dip, promise to you others in here and the rest will take care of itself.

[ChickDip]

35 days quit today. The past several days have been a nightmare. I can hardly tell a lot of difference between now and day 1. There are differences, just subtle ones.Yesterday was the first day ever I was late for roll. Not becuase o any crisis or emergency, because of cleverness. I knew I wouldn't break my word if i posted roll and I want dip. So don't post roll? Seems logical. I can just sneak out the back door, stop posting and start dipping, life returns to normal and all my problems are either solved or at the very least solvable. Think again. I followed the advise given here and began hoarding digits...so yeah, by 9ish my phone was going absolutely crazy. Here I am at work, getting the guys started and I'm about half frantic already and my phone starts going off. I answered and replied when I could, but I'm pretty sure there are still tons of people I never even was able to respond to. It works. They somehow saved me from the other guy. GET DIGITS.

So anyway...here I am 35 days in and bouncing off the walls again. I thought it was geting easier and had a few good weeks there, but now I'm not sure if I even want to be quit again, but im sure I want to be quit. I'm positive I want a dip, but thats not what I really want. I'm tired of fog, I'm tired of wanting something thats never there, I'm just tired. I'm tired of fighting it. I'm not giving up, I'm just saying...I'm damn tired of quitting, but not tired of being quit. I posted roll this morning and I didn't really want to. I want this to end and be over, but I'm not sure it ever will be. It seems really easy for others, why is it so freakin hard for me? I'm ALWAYS AWARE that I don't have any copenhagen, it NEVER goes away. Maybe for like a few minutes I forget and then I remember and my heart sinks. I don't want to think about it, it's just "there". Like it's wearing me down a little at a time. My mind feels like mush from over concentrating all the time. It's destroying my work and livelyhood, I literally haven't the head to perform efficiently most days.

Sorry this isn't the happiest update in the world, but it's real. I'm still quit physically, but mentally I want absolutely nothing to do with this quit. I do not want to be quit anymore.

I'm proud to be quit with all of you, thanks for listening.

Funks.

They're a real thing bro. You're right on track in the healing process... not that THAT helps in any way but... this is normal at the day counts you're on. I hit a massive wall in the 30s and it suuuucked ass. There is no magic formula other than the one you're doing... plowing through, plugging away, and using the people you have in your corner. Most important is that... the people who have your back.

You're not alone!

This will pass... I guarantee it.

And....better days are ahead.
Rock on, brother!

What he said ^^^ remember be the boss! This is your quit, own it! We're all right here with you in your corner. You're doing great. I know that may sound stupid to you but we've all been there and struggled just like you are but like you we chose to stay quit. Keep up the good fight and I guarantee you it will be worth every sucky moment. Damn proud to be quitting with you today!

Yeah, you want to be aware that you don't have any Copenhagen. You want to wake up in the morning and tell that bitch that you know where she is, and you aren't going there today.

It's a daily battle. As I approach a year quit, it's much easier, but it's still a daily battle.

Stay close to this site. Stay close to those who are beginning their quit. You can help them, and they will help you even more.

It's a daily battle. That's why we take it one day at a time.

^^^ what they said is gold.

It's a long road...glad you don't have to travel it alone.

Be thankful for every thought that enters your head. Whether it be what you want or not, they are there for a reason. They WILL make you stronger willed. You need the reminders that you are an addict....they come as funks, craves, however they show themselves, they may save you.

IQWYT and proud to do it.

[wildirish317]

35 days quit today. The past several days have been a nightmare. I can hardly tell a lot of difference between now and day 1. There are differences, just subtle ones.Yesterday was the first day ever I was late for roll. Not becuase o any crisis or emergency, because of cleverness. I knew I wouldn't break my word if i posted roll and I want dip. So don't post roll? Seems logical. I can just sneak out the back door, stop posting and start dipping, life returns to normal and all my problems are either solved or at the very least solvable. Think again. I followed the advise given here and began hoarding digits...so yeah, by 9ish my phone was going absolutely crazy. Here I am at work, getting the guys started and I'm about half frantic already and my phone starts going off. I answered and replied when I could, but I'm pretty sure there are still tons of people I never even was able to respond to. It works. They somehow saved me from the other guy. GET DIGITS.

So anyway...here I am 35 days in and bouncing off the walls again. I thought it was geting easier and had a few good weeks there, but now I'm not sure if I even want to be quit again, but im sure I want to be quit. I'm positive I want a dip, but thats not what I really want. I'm tired of fog, I'm tired of wanting something thats never there, I'm just tired. I'm tired of fighting it. I'm not giving up, I'm just saying...I'm damn tired of quitting, but not tired of being quit. I posted roll this morning and I didn't really want to. I want this to end and be over, but I'm not sure it ever will be. It seems really easy for others, why is it so freakin hard for me? I'm ALWAYS AWARE that I don't have any copenhagen, it NEVER goes away. Maybe for like a few minutes I forget and then I remember and my heart sinks. I don't want to think about it, it's just "there". Like it's wearing me down a little at a time. My mind feels like mush from over concentrating all the time. It's destroying my work and livelyhood, I literally haven't the head to perform efficiently most days.

Sorry this isn't the happiest update in the world, but it's real. I'm still quit physically, but mentally I want absolutely nothing to do with this quit. I do not want to be quit anymore.

I'm proud to be quit with all of you, thanks for listening.

Funks.

They're a real thing bro. You're right on track in the healing process... not that THAT helps in any way but... this is normal at the day counts you're on. I hit a massive wall in the 30s and it suuuucked ass. There is no magic formula other than the one you're doing... plowing through, plugging away, and using the people you have in your corner. Most important is that... the people who have your back.

You're not alone!

This will pass... I guarantee it.

And....better days are ahead.
Rock on, brother!

What he said ^^^ remember be the boss! This is your quit, own it! We're all right here with you in your corner. You're doing great. I know that may sound stupid to you but we've all been there and struggled just like you are but like you we chose to stay quit. Keep up the good fight and I guarantee you it will be worth every sucky moment. Damn proud to be quitting with you today!

Yeah, you want to be aware that you don't have any Copenhagen. You want to wake up in the morning and tell that bitch that you know where she is, and you aren't going there today.

It's a daily battle. As I approach a year quit, it's much easier, but it's still a daily battle.

Stay close to this site. Stay close to those who are beginning their quit. You can help them, and they will help you even more.

It's a daily battle. That's why we take it one day at a time.

[pab1964]

35 days quit today. The past several days have been a nightmare. I can hardly tell a lot of difference between now and day 1. There are differences, just subtle ones.Yesterday was the first day ever I was late for roll. Not becuase o any crisis or emergency, because of cleverness. I knew I wouldn't break my word if i posted roll and I want dip. So don't post roll? Seems logical. I can just sneak out the back door, stop posting and start dipping, life returns to normal and all my problems are either solved or at the very least solvable. Think again. I followed the advise given here and began hoarding digits...so yeah, by 9ish my phone was going absolutely crazy. Here I am at work, getting the guys started and I'm about half frantic already and my phone starts going off. I answered and replied when I could, but I'm pretty sure there are still tons of people I never even was able to respond to. It works. They somehow saved me from the other guy. GET DIGITS.

So anyway...here I am 35 days in and bouncing off the walls again. I thought it was geting easier and had a few good weeks there, but now I'm not sure if I even want to be quit again, but im sure I want to be quit. I'm positive I want a dip, but thats not what I really want. I'm tired of fog, I'm tired of wanting something thats never there, I'm just tired. I'm tired of fighting it. I'm not giving up, I'm just saying...I'm damn tired of quitting, but not tired of being quit. I posted roll this morning and I didn't really want to. I want this to end and be over, but I'm not sure it ever will be. It seems really easy for others, why is it so freakin hard for me? I'm ALWAYS AWARE that I don't have any copenhagen, it NEVER goes away. Maybe for like a few minutes I forget and then I remember and my heart sinks. I don't want to think about it, it's just "there". Like it's wearing me down a little at a time. My mind feels like mush from over concentrating all the time. It's destroying my work and livelyhood, I literally haven't the head to perform efficiently most days.

Sorry this isn't the happiest update in the world, but it's real. I'm still quit physically, but mentally I want absolutely nothing to do with this quit. I do not want to be quit anymore.

I'm proud to be quit with all of you, thanks for listening.

Funks.

They're a real thing bro. You're right on track in the healing process... not that THAT helps in any way but... this is normal at the day counts you're on. I hit a massive wall in the 30s and it suuuucked ass. There is no magic formula other than the one you're doing... plowing through, plugging away, and using the people you have in your corner. Most important is that... the people who have your back.

You're not alone!

This will pass... I guarantee it.

And....better days are ahead.
Rock on, brother!

What he said ^^^ remember be the boss! This is your quit, own it! We're all right here with you in your corner. You're doing great. I know that may sound stupid to you but we've all been there and struggled just like you are but like you we chose to stay quit. Keep up the good fight and I guarantee you it will be worth every sucky moment. Damn proud to be quitting with you today!

[AppleJack]

35 days quit today. The past several days have been a nightmare. I can hardly tell a lot of difference between now and day 1. There are differences, just subtle ones.Yesterday was the first day ever I was late for roll. Not becuase o any crisis or emergency, because of cleverness. I knew I wouldn't break my word if i posted roll and I want dip. So don't post roll? Seems logical. I can just sneak out the back door, stop posting and start dipping, life returns to normal and all my problems are either solved or at the very least solvable. Think again. I followed the advise given here and began hoarding digits...so yeah, by 9ish my phone was going absolutely crazy. Here I am at work, getting the guys started and I'm about half frantic already and my phone starts going off. I answered and replied when I could, but I'm pretty sure there are still tons of people I never even was able to respond to. It works. They somehow saved me from the other guy. GET DIGITS.

So anyway...here I am 35 days in and bouncing off the walls again. I thought it was geting easier and had a few good weeks there, but now I'm not sure if I even want to be quit again, but im sure I want to be quit. I'm positive I want a dip, but thats not what I really want. I'm tired of fog, I'm tired of wanting something thats never there, I'm just tired. I'm tired of fighting it. I'm not giving up, I'm just saying...I'm damn tired of quitting, but not tired of being quit. I posted roll this morning and I didn't really want to. I want this to end and be over, but I'm not sure it ever will be. It seems really easy for others, why is it so freakin hard for me? I'm ALWAYS AWARE that I don't have any copenhagen, it NEVER goes away. Maybe for like a few minutes I forget and then I remember and my heart sinks. I don't want to think about it, it's just "there". Like it's wearing me down a little at a time. My mind feels like mush from over concentrating all the time. It's destroying my work and livelyhood, I literally haven't the head to perform efficiently most days.

Sorry this isn't the happiest update in the world, but it's real. I'm still quit physically, but mentally I want absolutely nothing to do with this quit. I do not want to be quit anymore.

I'm proud to be quit with all of you, thanks for listening.

Funks.

They're a real thing bro. You're right on track in the healing process... not that THAT helps in any way but... this is normal at the day counts you're on. I hit a massive wall in the 30s and it suuuucked ass. There is no magic formula other than the one you're doing... plowing through, plugging away, and using the people you have in your corner. Most important is that... the people who have your back.

You're not alone!

This will pass... I guarantee it.

And....better days are ahead.
Rock on, brother!

[Richard C]

35 days quit today. The past several days have been a nightmare. I can hardly tell a lot of difference between now and day 1. There are differences, just subtle ones.Yesterday was the first day ever I was late for roll. Not becuase o any crisis or emergency, because of cleverness. I knew I wouldn't break my word if i posted roll and I want dip. So don't post roll? Seems logical. I can just sneak out the back door, stop posting and start dipping, life returns to normal and all my problems are either solved or at the very least solvable. Think again. I followed the advise given here and began hoarding digits...so yeah, by 9ish my phone was going absolutely crazy. Here I am at work, getting the guys started and I'm about half frantic already and my phone starts going off. I answered and replied when I could, but I'm pretty sure there are still tons of people I never even was able to respond to. It works. They somehow saved me from the other guy. GET DIGITS.

So anyway...here I am 35 days in and bouncing off the walls again. I thought it was geting easier and had a few good weeks there, but now I'm not sure if I even want to be quit again, but im sure I want to be quit. I'm positive I want a dip, but thats not what I really want. I'm tired of fog, I'm tired of wanting something thats never there, I'm just tired. I'm tired of fighting it. I'm not giving up, I'm just saying...I'm damn tired of quitting, but not tired of being quit. I posted roll this morning and I didn't really want to. I want this to end and be over, but I'm not sure it ever will be. It seems really easy for others, why is it so freakin hard for me? I'm ALWAYS AWARE that I don't have any copenhagen, it NEVER goes away. Maybe for like a few minutes I forget and then I remember and my heart sinks. I don't want to think about it, it's just "there". Like it's wearing me down a little at a time. My mind feels like mush from over concentrating all the time. It's destroying my work and livelyhood, I literally haven't the head to perform efficiently most days.

Sorry this isn't the happiest update in the world, but it's real. I'm still quit physically, but mentally I want absolutely nothing to do with this quit. I do not want to be quit anymore.

I'm proud to be quit with all of you, thanks for listening.

[Richard C]

Nice intro. Speaks to most of us. Every time I try to do the right thing, to move toward the best possible me, I meet resistance from "that other guy".

Glad you found us. Glad we found you.

Sir, I cannot even begin to express to you how happy I am to have found this place and you all. Proud to be quit with you.

[Richard C]

Beautiful intro, Richard. I regret not reading it before.

I completely understand "the other guy". It's like it's a shadow just out of the corner of your eye, just always lurking. I get it. I really do.

I very clearly remember that first time you came into chat that night and bokie, Gas, and I spent hours with you.

Look how damn far you've come.

Happy 31 days, man. You should be fucking proud of yourself, because I know I am.

I'm proud to be quit with you.

Thanks, I really appreciate that.

It seems like that night was an eternity ago, I remember it, but details are sketchy. It's weird. It was so intense then and now I can hardly remember any details at all. I do remember you being there though and I'm glad you were.

I'm very proud to be quit with you too.

[harvestgirl]

Beautiful intro, Richard. I regret not reading it before.

I completely understand "the other guy". It's like it's a shadow just out of the corner of your eye, just always lurking. I get it. I really do.

I very clearly remember that first time you came into chat that night and bokie, Gas, and I spent hours with you.

Look how damn far you've come.

Happy 31 days, man. You should be fucking proud of yourself, because I know I am.

I'm proud to be quit with you.

[wildirish317]

Nice intro. Speaks to most of us. Every time I try to do the right thing, to move toward the best possible me, I meet resistance from "that other guy".

Glad you found us. Glad we found you.

[Richard C]

I remembered your name from chat, and the intro was recommended to me as well. Damn, brother. True words, and they will provide a rock for you and support for others. Keep it up, and ping me if I can ever help in any way. Congrats on 2 weeks recently, and here's to today - GFY.

Thank you Mr.Lentz, I have enjoyed our conversations and words of...well...you know. GFY very well sir. Have a good one and thank you again.

[Richard C]

Same here. CMARK suggested this intro.

Looks like you have finally reached that place where you, way deep down inside, want to be quit. You've found home.

Every damn day make the promise here to your brothers and sisters and, most importantly, to yourself.

The days stack up. Slowly at first, no doubt.

The agony continues, but each day infinitesimally less.. Those infinitesimal days begin to add upon each other, and before you know it that other person you described realizes that THEY are going to lose the battle. And you come out on top.

Just keep posting daily.. NO EXCUSES. Once you allow yourself a "pass" for missing roll, you've already lost.

EDD and you win. You make a daily 24 hour promise not to use, honor your word and beat the nic. It really is that simple.

Wolfe

Thank you all...proud to be quit with you today.

The other guy is sneaky though. He almost tricked me on day 69. I thought he was gone. But he'll probably never leave. Always tempting with "just one - nobody will know - just use in moderation" but the problem is I don't have the ability to do moderation.

Sneaky for sure. I quit once a long time ago...31 day cave. I didn't know about this place then. I sure am glad I found it...

[zquitter]

Same here. CMARK suggested this intro.

Looks like you have finally reached that place where you, way deep down inside, want to be quit. You've found home.

Every damn day make the promise here to your brothers and sisters and, most importantly, to yourself.

The days stack up. Slowly at first, no doubt.

The agony continues, but each day infinitesimally less.. Those infinitesimal days begin to add upon each other, and before you know it that other person you described realizes that THEY are going to lose the battle. And you come out on top.

Just keep posting daily.. NO EXCUSES. Once you allow yourself a "pass" for missing roll, you've already lost.

EDD and you win. You make a daily 24 hour promise not to use, honor your word and beat the nic. It really is that simple.

Wolfe

Thank you all...proud to be quit with you today.

The other guy is sneaky though. He almost tricked me on day 69. I thought he was gone. But he'll probably never leave. Always tempting with "just one - nobody will know - just use in moderation" but the problem is I don't have the ability to do moderation.

[mrlentz]

I remembered your name from chat, and the intro was recommended to me as well. Damn, brother. True words, and they will provide a rock for you and support for others. Keep it up, and ping me if I can ever help in any way. Congrats on 2 weeks recently, and here's to today - GFY.