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Re: Kalan: A recent quitter
« Reply #118 on: September 03, 2014, 07:01:00 PM »
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Been a little absent from updating my intro lately. I write this at 78 days quit and since the last time I've added some more firsts without dip. Road tripping, watching football, tailgating college football games and going out to the old bars I used to while I was in college have all now been done without the use of tobacco and I have to say it was awesome. I will say I purchased a can of Smokey Mountain out of precaution as I was aware of the triggers that could be lurking to pull me back down the path of destruction. I went into the battle prepared and came out unscathed still tobacco free. Glad to be quit with all of you badasses
Still killin' it Kalen. Keep it up. The 80's was a tough stretch for me, just wanted the craves to end, and they wouldn't. Should be getting better real soon.
Thanks Dagranger it's been getting a lot better especially when there's no tobacco present. Still have thoughts here and there when I'm around it but I know I can't go back because I'll be full out hooked on the cancer dust again so I go ahead and play it safe and get some Smokey Mountain when I know I will be around it or may be tempted. As always I appreciate the support man
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Re: Kalan: A recent quitter
« Reply #117 on: September 03, 2014, 04:12:00 PM »
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Been a little absent from updating my intro lately. I write this at 78 days quit and since the last time I've added some more firsts without dip. Road tripping, watching football, tailgating college football games and going out to the old bars I used to while I was in college have all now been done without the use of tobacco and I have to say it was awesome. I will say I purchased a can of Smokey Mountain out of precaution as I was aware of the triggers that could be lurking to pull me back down the path of destruction. I went into the battle prepared and came out unscathed still tobacco free. Glad to be quit with all of you badasses
Still killin' it Kalen. Keep it up. The 80's was a tough stretch for me, just wanted the craves to end, and they wouldn't. Should be getting better real soon.

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Re: Kalan: A recent quitter
« Reply #116 on: September 03, 2014, 10:52:00 AM »
Been a little absent from updating my intro lately. I write this at 78 days quit and since the last time I've added some more firsts without dip. Road tripping, watching football, tailgating college football games and going out to the old bars I used to while I was in college have all now been done without the use of tobacco and I have to say it was awesome. I will say I purchased a can of Smokey Mountain out of precaution as I was aware of the triggers that could be lurking to pull me back down the path of destruction. I went into the battle prepared and came out unscathed still tobacco free. Glad to be quit with all of you badasses
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Re: Kalan: A recent quitter
« Reply #115 on: September 03, 2014, 10:52:00 AM »
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Been on vacation with limited Wifi so I've been in posting roll only mode this past week. I made it through my first vacation since killing the can and going tobacco free. It was quite pleasant not having to worry about needing to get dip or how much would I needed to last all week etc. I put in some Smokey Mountain one night to take away the temptation of using as two of my cousins are dippers and it intrigued them and I got to discuss my quit and share what I've learned from here. I hope it got through and they will join me in quitting. Also a side note I knew I had to be prepared going into an atmosphere where tobacco would be present so I got some Smokey Mountain to combat any temptation. It's a constant battle and we must always be prepared. Quit on my friends
Update on this post. One of my cousins has been tobacco free since shortly after we left the beach. He started picking up cans of Smokey Mountain and probably is to the point where he no longer needs it but is keeping prepared as he works within baseball. I couldn't of ever talked him into quitting if it wasn't for the knowledge you badass quitters before had bestowed upon me to share with him.
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Re: Kalan: A recent quitter
« Reply #114 on: August 18, 2014, 02:03:00 PM »
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Been fishing twice this weekend and both times did not use tobacco. Small victories every day make this quit journey awesome! Now a question for the rest of you bad ass quitters.....what in the hell have y'all done to keep weight off? I've gained 25 pounds since I quit! I mean I went off to college and never put on the freshman spread in two years of college and two months of quitting dipping and I'm getting fat? Not sure how that works but would love to hear some advice on what y'all have done to keep weight off because I sure as hell ain't about to start dipping again just to lose weight
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I just fished the other night without a chew in for the 1st time in 30+ years. I had a great night...my theory is the fish don't like the smell of nic either.
As for the weight gain, I hear ya. I put on about 10lbs and have been wrestling and riding the bike feverishly. I gotta lay off the hard candy. Losing weight can be a tough thing, but in the end it's similar to quitting nic....self restraint and a good mind set. Quit with you and the Sultans EDD. PM away if you ever need it.
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Re: Kalan: A recent quitter
« Reply #113 on: August 18, 2014, 09:58:00 AM »
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Have not done anything specific as a reminder except to post roll each day and if I get an urge I come onto KTC and read.
What are you addressing? I asked how other quitters had kept from gaining weight? Posting roll and reading doesn't keep you from putting on weight???
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Re: Kalan: A recent quitter
« Reply #112 on: August 18, 2014, 07:09:00 AM »
Have not done anything specific as a reminder except to post roll each day and if I get an urge I come onto KTC and read.

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Re: Kalan: A recent quitter
« Reply #111 on: August 17, 2014, 11:58:00 PM »
Been fishing twice this weekend and both times did not use tobacco. Small victories every day make this quit journey awesome! Now a question for the rest of you bad ass quitters.....what in the hell have y'all done to keep weight off? I've gained 25 pounds since I quit! I mean I went off to college and never put on the freshman spread in two years of college and two months of quitting dipping and I'm getting fat? Not sure how that works but would love to hear some advice on what y'all have done to keep weight off because I sure as hell ain't about to start dipping again just to lose weight
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Re: Kalan: A recent quitter
« Reply #110 on: August 11, 2014, 04:03:00 PM »
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I know I don't have it all figured out by any means but one thing I know is that KTC works if you utilize it and that's why I write this with 54 full days of quit under my belt and working on day 55 right now. I've noticed that the guys who are serious about their quit are the ones who are older. I'm 21 and since I've joined I feel like I'm the only young one that has come in here and taken my quit seriously. It troubles me and saddens me that young guys come here and then piss on us continually. So I ask the question why do you think young guys don't come in ready to tackle this?  what can we do to help get through to them? Thanks again KTC and all you awesome quitters for helping me save my life and my money.
Royal, it's the circle of life. When I was 21, taking advice from a 45 year old would have never happened, because when I was 21, I knew everything. Today I am 45, and know less each day. One tends to be more serious when they realize they have less days to be on this Earth, just a fact of life.

I have attempted to reach out to all quitters, but young guys want young guy support, whereas the older fellas tend to accept support from everyone. I find the young guys who succeed accept help from all, and "get" the fact that someday they too will be 40 something, and quitting now will make that day so much better.


All of the above is just my observation, and no disrespect to anyone on the site, just answering a question. Quit on.
I appreciate it Thumblewort. I want to know what you guys think because y'all are the ones who take it serious. As you know young guys come in here often (I've seen it quite a bit in the short amount of time I've been here) and give us a bunch of shit about being ready and a few days later they're gone. I'm looking for answers from the elders as to why this happens so I/we can help these guys get it and solidify their quits.
I was bullet proof when I was 21. I knew everything and nothing could hurt me. I sure wish I was smart like you when I was your age. I mean that in all seriousness. You have a great quit going and we are extremely proud of you. Keep it up brother!
Thanks Grizzly I sure appreciate it man. I'm not joking when I say without this site and the support of everyone who gets it I wouldn't of made it or developed a hatred for tobacco. I'm going to have to come up with some way to help these young guys who come in here stick it out and that's a torch I'm willing to carry and ready to if its what it takes to help young guys that come here understand how important and rewarding it is to be quit.
Just keep doing what you are doing - posting roll, posting support on intros, sending PM's and getting folks on board. That is all any of us can do.
Its a good point, I think to some extent younger guys haven't hit the rock bottom that the older guys have. I know when I found this site I really didn't know if I had it in me to stay quit (I had made so many promises that I kept breaking), so I was happy to accept as much help and support as I could get. When I was your age, I didn't realize I was truly addicted to a drug, felt I could quit anyday if I wanted to, and wasn't really interested in listening to older guys lecturing me about anything. I guess it all comes back to you Royal having the maturity and understanding to be a quitter, something I wish I had then. I'm quit with you today kid! Keep grinding.
Thumblewort and Dagranger thanks for the support guys! You don't know how much I appreciate it. Glad to be quit with you guys
Young guys are smart enough to know they should quit, but too dumb follow through once they find out how hard it is. I know I was, and I didn't start until I was 25. I'm probably the dumbest asshole on the site.

Once the young bucks realize quitting sucks, they either slither like snakes back out the ktc door or they get all swoll up and leave making a ruckus.

The ruckus usually is a combo of addict logic and youthful stupidity.

They aren't as addicted as us "older" guys because they haven't used as long as we did. We used for X amount of years and didn't get cancer so they can too. They live a different "younger" lifestyle and don't have time to post roll. Life is short, so they might as well do something they like because they could get hit by a bus tomorrow. Their Grandpa started smoking at age 10 and lived to be 90, etc...

Once you get a little older, you realize life is flying by and you want to enjoy the ride as long as possible. You realize maybe you're not bulletproof, and put max effort into your quit.

Bottom line, Cowboy... you're probably one of the smartest mother fuckers here. A lot of guys here wish they would have quit at your age. Keep up the good work!!!

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Re: Kalan: A recent quitter
« Reply #109 on: August 11, 2014, 02:06:00 PM »
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I know I don't have it all figured out by any means but one thing I know is that KTC works if you utilize it and that's why I write this with 54 full days of quit under my belt and working on day 55 right now. I've noticed that the guys who are serious about their quit are the ones who are older. I'm 21 and since I've joined I feel like I'm the only young one that has come in here and taken my quit seriously. It troubles me and saddens me that young guys come here and then piss on us continually. So I ask the question why do you think young guys don't come in ready to tackle this?  what can we do to help get through to them? Thanks again KTC and all you awesome quitters for helping me save my life and my money.
Royal, it's the circle of life. When I was 21, taking advice from a 45 year old would have never happened, because when I was 21, I knew everything. Today I am 45, and know less each day. One tends to be more serious when they realize they have less days to be on this Earth, just a fact of life.

I have attempted to reach out to all quitters, but young guys want young guy support, whereas the older fellas tend to accept support from everyone. I find the young guys who succeed accept help from all, and "get" the fact that someday they too will be 40 something, and quitting now will make that day so much better.


All of the above is just my observation, and no disrespect to anyone on the site, just answering a question. Quit on.
I appreciate it Thumblewort. I want to know what you guys think because y'all are the ones who take it serious. As you know young guys come in here often (I've seen it quite a bit in the short amount of time I've been here) and give us a bunch of shit about being ready and a few days later they're gone. I'm looking for answers from the elders as to why this happens so I/we can help these guys get it and solidify their quits.
I was bullet proof when I was 21. I knew everything and nothing could hurt me. I sure wish I was smart like you when I was your age. I mean that in all seriousness. You have a great quit going and we are extremely proud of you. Keep it up brother!
Thanks Grizzly I sure appreciate it man. I'm not joking when I say without this site and the support of everyone who gets it I wouldn't of made it or developed a hatred for tobacco. I'm going to have to come up with some way to help these young guys who come in here stick it out and that's a torch I'm willing to carry and ready to if its what it takes to help young guys that come here understand how important and rewarding it is to be quit.
Just keep doing what you are doing - posting roll, posting support on intros, sending PM's and getting folks on board. That is all any of us can do.
Its a good point, I think to some extent younger guys haven't hit the rock bottom that the older guys have. I know when I found this site I really didn't know if I had it in me to stay quit (I had made so many promises that I kept breaking), so I was happy to accept as much help and support as I could get. When I was your age, I didn't realize I was truly addicted to a drug, felt I could quit anyday if I wanted to, and wasn't really interested in listening to older guys lecturing me about anything. I guess it all comes back to you Royal having the maturity and understanding to be a quitter, something I wish I had then. I'm quit with you today kid! Keep grinding.
Thumblewort and Dagranger thanks for the support guys! You don't know how much I appreciate it. Glad to be quit with you guys
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Re: Kalan: A recent quitter
« Reply #108 on: August 11, 2014, 02:01:00 PM »
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I know I don't have it all figured out by any means but one thing I know is that KTC works if you utilize it and that's why I write this with 54 full days of quit under my belt and working on day 55 right now. I've noticed that the guys who are serious about their quit are the ones who are older. I'm 21 and since I've joined I feel like I'm the only young one that has come in here and taken my quit seriously. It troubles me and saddens me that young guys come here and then piss on us continually. So I ask the question why do you think young guys don't come in ready to tackle this?  what can we do to help get through to them? Thanks again KTC and all you awesome quitters for helping me save my life and my money.
Royal, it's the circle of life. When I was 21, taking advice from a 45 year old would have never happened, because when I was 21, I knew everything. Today I am 45, and know less each day. One tends to be more serious when they realize they have less days to be on this Earth, just a fact of life.

I have attempted to reach out to all quitters, but young guys want young guy support, whereas the older fellas tend to accept support from everyone. I find the young guys who succeed accept help from all, and "get" the fact that someday they too will be 40 something, and quitting now will make that day so much better.


All of the above is just my observation, and no disrespect to anyone on the site, just answering a question. Quit on.
I appreciate it Thumblewort. I want to know what you guys think because y'all are the ones who take it serious. As you know young guys come in here often (I've seen it quite a bit in the short amount of time I've been here) and give us a bunch of shit about being ready and a few days later they're gone. I'm looking for answers from the elders as to why this happens so I/we can help these guys get it and solidify their quits.
I was bullet proof when I was 21. I knew everything and nothing could hurt me. I sure wish I was smart like you when I was your age. I mean that in all seriousness. You have a great quit going and we are extremely proud of you. Keep it up brother!
Thanks Grizzly I sure appreciate it man. I'm not joking when I say without this site and the support of everyone who gets it I wouldn't of made it or developed a hatred for tobacco. I'm going to have to come up with some way to help these young guys who come in here stick it out and that's a torch I'm willing to carry and ready to if its what it takes to help young guys that come here understand how important and rewarding it is to be quit.
Just keep doing what you are doing - posting roll, posting support on intros, sending PM's and getting folks on board. That is all any of us can do.
Its a good point, I think to some extent younger guys haven't hit the rock bottom that the older guys have. I know when I found this site I really didn't know if I had it in me to stay quit (I had made so many promises that I kept breaking), so I was happy to accept as much help and support as I could get. When I was your age, I didn't realize I was truly addicted to a drug, felt I could quit anyday if I wanted to, and wasn't really interested in listening to older guys lecturing me about anything. I guess it all comes back to you Royal having the maturity and understanding to be a quitter, something I wish I had then. I'm quit with you today kid! Keep grinding.

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Re: Kalan: A recent quitter
« Reply #107 on: August 11, 2014, 01:36:00 PM »
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I know I don't have it all figured out by any means but one thing I know is that KTC works if you utilize it and that's why I write this with 54 full days of quit under my belt and working on day 55 right now. I've noticed that the guys who are serious about their quit are the ones who are older. I'm 21 and since I've joined I feel like I'm the only young one that has come in here and taken my quit seriously. It troubles me and saddens me that young guys come here and then piss on us continually. So I ask the question why do you think young guys don't come in ready to tackle this?  what can we do to help get through to them? Thanks again KTC and all you awesome quitters for helping me save my life and my money.
Royal, it's the circle of life. When I was 21, taking advice from a 45 year old would have never happened, because when I was 21, I knew everything. Today I am 45, and know less each day. One tends to be more serious when they realize they have less days to be on this Earth, just a fact of life.

I have attempted to reach out to all quitters, but young guys want young guy support, whereas the older fellas tend to accept support from everyone. I find the young guys who succeed accept help from all, and "get" the fact that someday they too will be 40 something, and quitting now will make that day so much better.


All of the above is just my observation, and no disrespect to anyone on the site, just answering a question. Quit on.
I appreciate it Thumblewort. I want to know what you guys think because y'all are the ones who take it serious. As you know young guys come in here often (I've seen it quite a bit in the short amount of time I've been here) and give us a bunch of shit about being ready and a few days later they're gone. I'm looking for answers from the elders as to why this happens so I/we can help these guys get it and solidify their quits.
I was bullet proof when I was 21. I knew everything and nothing could hurt me. I sure wish I was smart like you when I was your age. I mean that in all seriousness. You have a great quit going and we are extremely proud of you. Keep it up brother!
Thanks Grizzly I sure appreciate it man. I'm not joking when I say without this site and the support of everyone who gets it I wouldn't of made it or developed a hatred for tobacco. I'm going to have to come up with some way to help these young guys who come in here stick it out and that's a torch I'm willing to carry and ready to if its what it takes to help young guys that come here understand how important and rewarding it is to be quit.
Just keep doing what you are doing - posting roll, posting support on intros, sending PM's and getting folks on board. That is all any of us can do.
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Re: Kalan: A recent quitter
« Reply #106 on: August 11, 2014, 01:08:00 PM »
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I know I don't have it all figured out by any means but one thing I know is that KTC works if you utilize it and that's why I write this with 54 full days of quit under my belt and working on day 55 right now. I've noticed that the guys who are serious about their quit are the ones who are older. I'm 21 and since I've joined I feel like I'm the only young one that has come in here and taken my quit seriously. It troubles me and saddens me that young guys come here and then piss on us continually. So I ask the question why do you think young guys don't come in ready to tackle this?  what can we do to help get through to them? Thanks again KTC and all you awesome quitters for helping me save my life and my money.
Royal, it's the circle of life. When I was 21, taking advice from a 45 year old would have never happened, because when I was 21, I knew everything. Today I am 45, and know less each day. One tends to be more serious when they realize they have less days to be on this Earth, just a fact of life.

I have attempted to reach out to all quitters, but young guys want young guy support, whereas the older fellas tend to accept support from everyone. I find the young guys who succeed accept help from all, and "get" the fact that someday they too will be 40 something, and quitting now will make that day so much better.


All of the above is just my observation, and no disrespect to anyone on the site, just answering a question. Quit on.
I appreciate it Thumblewort. I want to know what you guys think because y'all are the ones who take it serious. As you know young guys come in here often (I've seen it quite a bit in the short amount of time I've been here) and give us a bunch of shit about being ready and a few days later they're gone. I'm looking for answers from the elders as to why this happens so I/we can help these guys get it and solidify their quits.
I was bullet proof when I was 21. I knew everything and nothing could hurt me. I sure wish I was smart like you when I was your age. I mean that in all seriousness. You have a great quit going and we are extremely proud of you. Keep it up brother!
Thanks Grizzly I sure appreciate it man. I'm not joking when I say without this site and the support of everyone who gets it I wouldn't of made it or developed a hatred for tobacco. I'm going to have to come up with some way to help these young guys who come in here stick it out and that's a torch I'm willing to carry and ready to if its what it takes to help young guys that come here understand how important and rewarding it is to be quit.
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Re: Kalan: A recent quitter
« Reply #105 on: August 11, 2014, 12:01:00 PM »
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I know I don't have it all figured out by any means but one thing I know is that KTC works if you utilize it and that's why I write this with 54 full days of quit under my belt and working on day 55 right now. I've noticed that the guys who are serious about their quit are the ones who are older. I'm 21 and since I've joined I feel like I'm the only young one that has come in here and taken my quit seriously. It troubles me and saddens me that young guys come here and then piss on us continually. So I ask the question why do you think young guys don't come in ready to tackle this?  what can we do to help get through to them? Thanks again KTC and all you awesome quitters for helping me save my life and my money.
Royal, it's the circle of life. When I was 21, taking advice from a 45 year old would have never happened, because when I was 21, I knew everything. Today I am 45, and know less each day. One tends to be more serious when they realize they have less days to be on this Earth, just a fact of life.

I have attempted to reach out to all quitters, but young guys want young guy support, whereas the older fellas tend to accept support from everyone. I find the young guys who succeed accept help from all, and "get" the fact that someday they too will be 40 something, and quitting now will make that day so much better.


All of the above is just my observation, and no disrespect to anyone on the site, just answering a question. Quit on.
I appreciate it Thumblewort. I want to know what you guys think because y'all are the ones who take it serious. As you know young guys come in here often (I've seen it quite a bit in the short amount of time I've been here) and give us a bunch of shit about being ready and a few days later they're gone. I'm looking for answers from the elders as to why this happens so I/we can help these guys get it and solidify their quits.
I was bullet proof when I was 21. I knew everything and nothing could hurt me. I sure wish I was smart like you when I was your age. I mean that in all seriousness. You have a great quit going and we are extremely proud of you. Keep it up brother!
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Offline RoyalCowboy7

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Re: Kalan: A recent quitter
« Reply #104 on: August 11, 2014, 11:50:00 AM »
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Quote from: RoyalCowboy7
I know I don't have it all figured out by any means but one thing I know is that KTC works if you utilize it and that's why I write this with 54 full days of quit under my belt and working on day 55 right now. I've noticed that the guys who are serious about their quit are the ones who are older. I'm 21 and since I've joined I feel like I'm the only young one that has come in here and taken my quit seriously. It troubles me and saddens me that young guys come here and then piss on us continually. So I ask the question why do you think young guys don't come in ready to tackle this?  what can we do to help get through to them? Thanks again KTC and all you awesome quitters for helping me save my life and my money.
Royal, it's the circle of life. When I was 21, taking advice from a 45 year old would have never happened, because when I was 21, I knew everything. Today I am 45, and know less each day. One tends to be more serious when they realize they have less days to be on this Earth, just a fact of life.

I have attempted to reach out to all quitters, but young guys want young guy support, whereas the older fellas tend to accept support from everyone. I find the young guys who succeed accept help from all, and "get" the fact that someday they too will be 40 something, and quitting now will make that day so much better.


All of the above is just my observation, and no disrespect to anyone on the site, just answering a question. Quit on.
I appreciate it Thumblewort. I want to know what you guys think because y'all are the ones who take it serious. As you know young guys come in here often (I've seen it quite a bit in the short amount of time I've been here) and give us a bunch of shit about being ready and a few days later they're gone. I'm looking for answers from the elders as to why this happens so I/we can help these guys get it and solidify their quits.
The Copenhagen can will no longer control this man because being a quitter means becoming a winner

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