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Re: Serious Consideration
« Reply #44 on: January 13, 2010, 09:38:00 AM »
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Some areas where I notice that I almost constantly have a dip in and could use some suggestions are:
At work(sitting, while build electronic assemblies)
While on the computer at home
While driving
Just sitting around watching TV
No one has given any suggestion in what they have done to over come the urge/desire for a dip in these situation. If there have been 1000s nicotine addicts here then I know that some still fight in these setting? What is that you have done? From my past experience it is the triggers that have done me more harm than just flush my 'worm dirt' down the toilet.

That was the biggest reason for me even posting before day one, not to catch all this discouragement telling me that my way is wrong.
Heres a way to help with cravings.

1. Log on to this site and read, if that doesnt work...

2. Log into chat and tell someone to fuck off, it helps and we understand, if that doesnt work...

3. Call a quit brother and ask his permission to cave, he will not give it to you. If that doesnt work...


4. Pull the contract out of your pocket, sign it, hand it to all of your loved ones and explain how dip means more to you than they do.


If this doesnt work....jump off a bridge...same thing as caving


Now stop being a pussy and quit
Just saw your roll post :D

Note to self: Read entire thread before responding.
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Re: Serious Consideration
« Reply #43 on: January 13, 2010, 09:36:00 AM »
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Some areas where I notice that I almost constantly have a dip in and could use some suggestions are:
At work(sitting, while build electronic assemblies)
While on the computer at home
While driving
Just sitting around watching TV
No one has given any suggestion in what they have done to over come the urge/desire for a dip in these situation. If there have been 1000s nicotine addicts here then I know that some still fight in these setting? What is that you have done? From my past experience it is the triggers that have done me more harm than just flush my 'worm dirt' down the toilet.

That was the biggest reason for me even posting before day one, not to catch all this discouragement telling me that my way is wrong.
Heres a way to help with cravings.

1. Log on to this site and read, if that doesnt work...

2. Log into chat and tell someone to fuck off, it helps and we understand, if that doesnt work...

3. Call a quit brother and ask his permission to cave, he will not give it to you. If that doesnt work...


4. Pull the contract out of your pocket, sign it, hand it to all of your loved ones and explain how dip means more to you than they do.


If this doesnt work....jump off a bridge...same thing as caving


Now stop being a pussy and quit
IT GETS EASIER!!

"Nicotine is not a crutch, it's a limp. Accountability is a crutch. Use it to get stronger." - ninereasons March 2, 2011

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Re: Serious Consideration
« Reply #42 on: January 13, 2010, 09:11:00 AM »
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FTK you not keeping up with the happenings????

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Re: Serious Consideration
« Reply #41 on: January 13, 2010, 08:09:00 AM »
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FTK you not keeping up with the happenings????

April 2010 roll call


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Outstanding to see! Congrats on your decision.
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Re: Serious Consideration
« Reply #40 on: January 13, 2010, 07:56:00 AM »
FTK you not keeping up with the happenings????

April 2010 roll call


'na na'

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Re: Serious Consideration
« Reply #39 on: January 13, 2010, 07:47:00 AM »
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Airborne--
I'm a newbie. 40 Days.
I found this site, got nervous as hell at the prospect of actually quitting, went through 3/4 of a can in about 2 hours of reading, and then I posted roll.
Was I "ready"? Was I "prepared"?
Not in the military sense - no, absolutely not. Dad was a fighter pilot on alert several times in my growing years. I believe I have some awareness of the difference.
You won't be prepared.
Triggers will haunt you, and you'll work through them.
The ballsiest people I've witnessed in the last month (other than our active duty)were the newbies that posted roll over the holidays and then drove 10 or 12 hours in a car to get to their holiday destinations... without caving!
I've spent the last 10 months pretty much confined to solitary studies. Up until my quit 40 days ago I had a chew in my mouth probably 8 hours a day in my isolation.
When I quit... my ENTIRE DAY was ONE BIG TRIGGER!
These guys aren't fuckin' with your head. They're not twisting shit around and trying to convince you of anything you don't already inherently understand.
Quiet your questions and open your mind.
You have the answers.
It won't be easy  you will have triggers.
I realize you don't wholly understand this yet, but this place has ALL the support you'll need.
When in need I have spent literally hours hanging out here just to tether myself to the computer (a trigger) while I began the process of reconfiguring the hardwiring of my brain. I have used this place to both pacify my irregularities and nourish myself with something useful.
These guys aren't playing some game of pansy-ass verbal ping pong. They're not simply waiting for you to exhale another excuse so they can stroke your indecision or coddle you with subtle coercion.
Instead, they're displaying certain rules of engagement --- they're defining accountability --- they're assuring you: make the choice  we've got your back.

Game On, Bro...

JUMP!!!
Fucking great post dude!

AA, if you can't take this guy's advice or relate to his story at all, I'm afraid there is no hope.
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Re: Serious Consideration
« Reply #38 on: January 13, 2010, 12:33:00 AM »
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Hey you assbackwards tooL - Fuck off.

Whooo...all better now.
'bj' 'bj' 'bj' 'bj' 'bj' 'bj' 'bj'
Gregory - for your 1000th post, will you please call me a fag? Fuck that. I'm not asking. Call me a fag and say it like you mean it.

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Re: Serious Consideration
« Reply #37 on: January 12, 2010, 11:56:00 PM »
Airborne--
I'm a newbie. 40 Days.
I found this site, got nervous as hell at the prospect of actually quitting, went through 3/4 of a can in about 2 hours of reading, and then I posted roll.
Was I "ready"? Was I "prepared"?
Not in the military sense - no, absolutely not. Dad was a fighter pilot on alert several times in my growing years. I believe I have some awareness of the difference.
You won't be prepared.
Triggers will haunt you, and you'll work through them.
The ballsiest people I've witnessed in the last month (other than our active duty)were the newbies that posted roll over the holidays and then drove 10 or 12 hours in a car to get to their holiday destinations... without caving!
I've spent the last 10 months pretty much confined to solitary studies. Up until my quit 40 days ago I had a chew in my mouth probably 8 hours a day in my isolation.
When I quit... my ENTIRE DAY was ONE BIG TRIGGER!
These guys aren't fuckin' with your head. They're not twisting shit around and trying to convince you of anything you don't already inherently understand.
Quiet your questions and open your mind.
You have the answers.
It won't be easy  you will have triggers.
I realize you don't wholly understand this yet, but this place has ALL the support you'll need.
When in need I have spent literally hours hanging out here just to tether myself to the computer (a trigger) while I began the process of reconfiguring the hardwiring of my brain. I have used this place to both pacify my irregularities and nourish myself with something useful.
These guys aren't playing some game of pansy-ass verbal ping pong. They're not simply waiting for you to exhale another excuse so they can stroke your indecision or coddle you with subtle coercion.
Instead, they're displaying certain rules of engagement --- they're defining accountability --- they're assuring you: make the choice  we've got your back.

Game On, Bro...

JUMP!!!

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Re: Serious Consideration
« Reply #36 on: January 12, 2010, 11:29:00 PM »
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Hey you assbackwards tooL - Fuck off.

Whooo...all better now.
'bj' 'bj' 'bj' 'bj' 'bj' 'bj' 'bj'

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Re: Serious Consideration
« Reply #35 on: January 12, 2010, 08:58:00 PM »
Hey you assbackwards tooL - Fuck off.

Whooo...all better now.

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Re: Serious Consideration
« Reply #34 on: January 12, 2010, 08:34:00 PM »
some good quittin shit goin on up in this mufucker tonight

thanks A²

today you brought out the best in KTC and managed to help LOOT reconfirm his own quit

LOOT is clean today. LOOT will post roll tomorrow and pledge the same. the day you decide to join the ranks is the day you reclaim your life.

one day at a time.

just one more. LOOT can quit for a single day. anyone can.

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Re: Serious Consideration
« Reply #33 on: January 12, 2010, 08:12:00 PM »
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Some areas where I notice that I almost constantly have a dip in and could use some suggestions are:
At work(sitting, while build electronic assemblies)
While on the computer at home
While driving
Just sitting around watching TV
No one has given any suggestion in what they have done to over come the urge/desire for a dip in these situation. If there have been 1000s nicotine addicts here then I know that some still fight in these setting? What is that you have done? From my past experience it is the triggers that have done me more harm than just flush my 'worm dirt' down the toilet.

That was the biggest reason for me even posting before day one, not to catch all this discouragement telling me that my way is wrong.
I have a few things on this topic...

1. The ONLY power this addiction has over you lies in your fear of discomfort. Once you resolutely decide to quit, and decide that you will accept ANYTHING the addiction throws at you, the whole thing just becomes a trivial exercise in waiting out the discomfort. On the other hand, if you give yourself an out; if you define a breaking point at which it becomes "too difficult" and you can go back to the can, your mind will put you through hell to get you to that point. You can't leave yourself any option but staying quit.

2. Now that you know you will without a doubt stay quit, it's time to deal with the fallout. One of the most powerful weapons here is the fake dip. You have spent many years developing a mental trigger that says "when I put a pinch in my lip I feel happy". Take advantage of that trigger and use the fake chew to make yourself more comfortable as you wait out the physical symptoms. Use it a couple of times a day, or use it all the fucking time if you have to. The habit will go away eventually, as long as there is no nicotine there to reinforce it.

3. Try to sort out what your mind really wants when you're craving a chew. A lot of times, you'll figure out things like this:
"I don't really want a chew, I'm just hungry"
"I don't really want a chew, I'm just tired"
"I don't really want a chew, I'm experiencing anxiety about a problem and I can relieve that anxiety by solving the problem."
"I don't really want a chew, I can appreciate fishing (or hunting, mowing the lawn, golfing, whatever) without it"

4. Cultivate a hatred for the addiction you have developed. Whenever you catch yourself wanting a chew, use that as an opportunity to reflect upon just how powerful and deceptive the nicotine-addiction trap is. Nicotine is not the solution to the way you feel, it is the source of your pain and discomfort. Make no mistake about it: you are in a trap that will consume you and kill you if you let it; never allow yourself to romanticize dipping.

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Re: Serious Consideration
« Reply #32 on: January 12, 2010, 07:48:00 PM »
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Quote from: AirborneAlways
No one has given any suggestion in what they have done to over come the urge/desire for a dip in these situation.
sure we did. the addict in you chose to ignore them.

the proverbial terd is on your plate bro.
Hey James. :D
James?

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Not him, You. ;) :P

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Re: Serious Consideration
« Reply #31 on: January 12, 2010, 07:46:00 PM »
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Quote from: AirborneAlways
No one has given any suggestion in what they have done to over come the urge/desire for a dip in these situation.
sure we did. the addict in you chose to ignore them.

the proverbial terd is on your plate bro.
Hey James. :D
James?

:ph43r:

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Re: Serious Consideration
« Reply #30 on: January 12, 2010, 07:36:00 PM »
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Quote from: AirborneAlways
No one has given any suggestion in what they have done to over come the urge/desire for a dip in these situation.
sure we did. the addict in you chose to ignore them.

the proverbial terd is on your plate bro.
Hey James. :D