Slo...
I just posted this in February. Please read it over.
I understand that you got called out wrongly. I'm sorry.
Just be careful on calling out those that have knowledge that you don't.
Slomo....wrong...my name is Jim Grogan..xxx-xxx-xxxx...I don't hide and not hiding behind a keyboard...miles and odaat or what ever you want to call yourselves...if I have to rely on either one of you to help me quit, well I should just start chewing again, others might respect you...i dont...was told not to burn bridges...well, I don't burn, I implode them. Those who have my back will, those who don't, I simply don't care. I was asked to apologize by those that have my number...yeah, that wont happen....This is my 16th day of no chew...my kids thank me
Jim, don't put your phone number in the public viewing area. You will get pictures of large greasy dicks and/or telemarketers selling mexican car insurance. You can *edit* any of *your* posts where the yellow buttons are (normally just report and quote), or would one of the moderators fix that for him.
Slomo - Post and Ignore the fucks. Make this about you.
This is classic late teen/early 20 rage, February quitters.
Hi February. I'm Wastepanel. You might remember me from such hall of fame groups such as December 2006 and October 2011. I also take care of an introduction thread that lays my quit out for all to see.
February quitters, Slomo and the rest of you are going to feel the rage building up in you around this time. It's a major funk, and it is the first major obstacle after the first week you must clear.
We all agree that the first week is pure hell. It takes all of our energy to just not chew. It leaves us exhausted at night, and unable to sleep. We are angry.
After you pass that initial week, things get magical. Your quit is strong, and you want to celebrate because you ARE quit. The adrenaline is high, and staying quit is quite easy here because of your motivation.
Then the late teens hit...
It starts off as general rage. You are perturbed at life in general, but your body isn't quite ready to admit it yet. So you internalize your battles, and let your aggression come out on this board. It's real easy to start thinking that this site is more drama than what it is worth. We've all been there.
The rage builds up until you hate everything associated with this board. You hate calling yourself an addict because you are quit, and you don't want to admit that you used to feel the need to stick that shit in you gums every moment you were awake. You attack everything about this site. Your brain tells you to leave and not come back.
This is called a planned cave.
All too often, we find these individuals cave shortly thereafter. Sure. I bet they didn't cave the day they stopped posting roll, but the nic bitch is a tricky lass. She will delete every tool that you've learned here when you're not thinking about her and she'll pounce. You'll be left defenseless.
It happened to me. It took nearly 850 days after I stopped posting roll (made the hof in 2006) for me to stop stopping tobacco. When I returned, I was unsure of my failing route.
I see my flaw now.
If I stop posting roll, I will forget. If I forget, I will fail.
That is what I am doing differently this time.
My suggestion is this:
Post roll.
Stay Quit.
Repeat.
Don't worry about the bullshit. Take a week. Post roll, and use the site as needed. It's ok to not be strong enough to deal with the bullshit here. I did it. So did many others. We posted roll everyday, but we walked away from the distractions of all the quote tags.
We're not here to give you guys a hard time. We're here because we've run the gauntlet you are running, and we want you to succeed. We've seen some stupid shit on these boards including guys that have caved and stopped posting days to hide it. We can be quite aggressive sometimes, but sometimes it's the only way to get it through to a hard headed addict.
ODAAT and other vets here are awesome quitters, and I respect every one of them as much as I respect you February quitters. They pulled me from the entrance to a cave so many times that I can't count. I never could have done this without the support they offered me and my brothers when we were in your shoes. Remember why they are calling you out:
You have lied to, cheated on, and stole time from every single person you hold dear. You take roll call seriously, and you will find that total strangers will give your quit more accountability than any “real” person in your world.
It's that simple, and it's words that I have lived by for 148 days.
I am going to add to that posting roll is sacred. It is not an agreement taken into lightly. If you quit, simply post your name up with how many awesome days. Creative posting requires a writer and reader. I could do this:
a;osidfhapoiwhfawoeiuhouwuoi-18923y4983298
and call it roll. If I'm the only one that understands it, then the creativity is lost. I would think the simple act of hyperlinking the name to a picture of the jersey would suffice. Or an appendix. Or a simple
"I put this guy. He was jersey 15."
This conversation would have been over and forgotten. ODAAT probably would have said sorry (but post roll properly), and we all would have enjoyed making ghey jokes for 2 days.
