My Quit

[FMBM707]

I haven't posted anything on my Intro in over a hundred days and just came back to read over it. Pretty cool to see where I was and were I am now.

I still don't buy into the everyone is an addict thing that seems to be a main flavor of Kool-Aid around here, but that just proves, take what you need and leave the rest. I have some very close QUIT brothers that strongly believe that everyone is an addict and they know that I don't, however, we agree on 90% of the rest of QUIT and have a mutual respect.

I have a Bad Ass core group of Titans that I bs with almost every single day and will continue to do so for life. I came looking for support Quitting nicotine, ended up finding some people that support me in everything I do in my life, mainly because I was willing to open up and expose myself. If I caved, it would be truely painful because I'd have to move, change my telephone, email, facebook and other things I'm not even thinking about. That's on purpose. I wanted accountability, so I found a few others that wanted the same level of accountability and I exposed my life to them.

I still post roll, and will continue to for the forcible future. I'm not saying I'll post every day for the rest of my life, but I dipped somewhere around 6200 days. I'm not even going to consider not posting daily roll until I get to at least 10%, it works so why mess with it? I honestly prefer Kakao over being on here because on Kakao I don't even think about nicotine, but on here I obviously do, but I do still hope in Live Chat in the late night/early hours just in case someone needs help. I owe this site a great deal so I find ways to try and pay it forward and I'm always on standby for when one of my more active Bros like Candoit or FMBM see someone that maybe I can uniquely help and I'll rush to a computer to help. I don't really enjoy reading the early groups because I get annoyed, but I love reading the guys make the HOF and how excited they are to be 100 days QUIT. I get QUIT wood over that and it helps fuel my QUIT.

I haven't had a true crave in months. I've had very few of the fleeting thoughts of Cope even, because I don't do that shit anymore. That's the path I took to this QUIT. Whenever I had a crave, I'd yell out "I don't do that shit anymore." That was my mantra until I started actually believing it, and I do believe it now. As Stevo says, I burned my boat when I land for this fight. There was no way to return to that lifestyle. I made it that way on purpose.

The thing about my QUIT at almost the 250 mark is how freeing it is to be nic free. Honest Disclaimer, I use Smokey Mountain and my own blend of coffee and teas, mainly when I'm out fishing or working outside. I don't do it around other people and I don't have to have it. I'll go days without it if I don't have any or just don't want any. I'm okay with that and honestly am ok if I do it forever, but I'll probably look at stopping at the one year mark, but it really doesn't matter to me. I don't do it in public mainly because I don't want someone to see me and think that I'm using nicotine and that I approve of nicotine.

If anyone actually reads this looking for advice, here it is. Find a core group and open up your life with each other. Make it so the choice of taking a dip/smoke would be painful, not just on the internet, but in real life. About KTC and the variety of Quitters on here, take what works for you and don't get to razzled about the rest of it, most of all, don't let anything on a website hurt your QUIT. I almost let that happen around the 100 day mark, not that I was going to cave or avoid my group, but I was leaving this site. That would have been stupid. Stick it out, there are a lot of great people on here. Post roll and be a man of your word for 1 day. Eventually you can look to the future, but early one, ODAAT.

Quit with you EDD Tom.

[tsj12b]

I haven't posted anything on my Intro in over a hundred days and just came back to read over it. Pretty cool to see where I was and were I am now.

I still don't buy into the everyone is an addict thing that seems to be a main flavor of Kool-Aid around here, but that just proves, take what you need and leave the rest. I have some very close QUIT brothers that strongly believe that everyone is an addict and they know that I don't, however, we agree on 90% of the rest of QUIT and have a mutual respect.

I have a Bad Ass core group of Titans that I bs with almost every single day and will continue to do so for life. I came looking for support Quitting nicotine, ended up finding some people that support me in everything I do in my life, mainly because I was willing to open up and expose myself. If I caved, it would be truely painful because I'd have to move, change my telephone, email, facebook and other things I'm not even thinking about. That's on purpose. I wanted accountability, so I found a few others that wanted the same level of accountability and I exposed my life to them.

I still post roll, and will continue to for the forcible future. I'm not saying I'll post every day for the rest of my life, but I dipped somewhere around 6200 days. I'm not even going to consider not posting daily roll until I get to at least 10%, it works so why mess with it? I honestly prefer Kakao over being on here because on Kakao I don't even think about nicotine, but on here I obviously do, but I do still hope in Live Chat in the late night/early hours just in case someone needs help. I owe this site a great deal so I find ways to try and pay it forward and I'm always on standby for when one of my more active Bros like Candoit or FMBM see someone that maybe I can uniquely help and I'll rush to a computer to help. I don't really enjoy reading the early groups because I get annoyed, but I love reading the guys make the HOF and how excited they are to be 100 days QUIT. I get QUIT wood over that and it helps fuel my QUIT.

I haven't had a true crave in months. I've had very few of the fleeting thoughts of Cope even, because I don't do that shit anymore. That's the path I took to this QUIT. Whenever I had a crave, I'd yell out "I don't do that shit anymore." That was my mantra until I started actually believing it, and I do believe it now. As Stevo says, I burned my boat when I land for this fight. There was no way to return to that lifestyle. I made it that way on purpose.

The thing about my QUIT at almost the 250 mark is how freeing it is to be nic free. Honest Disclaimer, I use Smokey Mountain and my own blend of coffee and teas, mainly when I'm out fishing or working outside. I don't do it around other people and I don't have to have it. I'll go days without it if I don't have any or just don't want any. I'm okay with that and honestly am ok if I do it forever, but I'll probably look at stopping at the one year mark, but it really doesn't matter to me. I don't do it in public mainly because I don't want someone to see me and think that I'm using nicotine and that I approve of nicotine.

If anyone actually reads this looking for advice, here it is. Find a core group and open up your life with each other. Make it so the choice of taking a dip/smoke would be painful, not just on the internet, but in real life. About KTC and the variety of Quitters on here, take what works for you and don't get to razzled about the rest of it, most of all, don't let anything on a website hurt your QUIT. I almost let that happen around the 100 day mark, not that I was going to cave or avoid my group, but I was leaving this site. That would have been stupid. Stick it out, there are a lot of great people on here. Post roll and be a man of your word for 1 day. Eventually you can look to the future, but early one, ODAAT.

[tsj12b]

I guess after two months of not chronicling anything I should post something to remember later. I'm cutting and pasting a pm I sent to someone struggling today. He's a combat vet and 22yr Army guy who deals with PTSD, TBI and a fucked up body also. It really kind of sums up a lot of my Quit so far:


Hey,

I was medically retired this summer after 17 years of service in the Army and Coast Guard. Lots of time in South America and both an Iraq and an A'stan tour. I live with PTSD, TBI and chronic pain, but one thing I don't live with anymore is Nicotine. I dipped since OSUT almost 18 years ago. I dipped openly and never even tried to Quit. I was up to 2 cans a day until this summer. I had my retirement party on the 4th of July and I was just sitting there thinking about it when I went to put my first dip of the morning in, how long I'd been dipping. I had a moment of clarity that if I didn't stop then, I'd never stop. I had a unique time as I was transitioning out of the service to break the habit. I Quit cold turkey without any type of plan 96 days ago. I was hurting real bad on day 4or 5 and found this site. I don't buy into a lot of people's bullshit on this site, but what does work for me is Brotherhood, Accountability and Support. I've got a group of Bad Ass guys, and two gals, that I give my word to every day that I'll make it through that day without putting nicotine into my body. At day 4 or 5, I couldn't see a week into the future, let alone 100 days of not using that shit, but I knew that I could put up with anything for 1 freaking day. So that's what I did, and still do. I post up on roll first thing after midnight or when I wake, giving my word and then I do whatever it takes to not dip. Now, it's gotten a lot easier.

I'll be honest upfront. I don't buy into a lot of this "everyone's an addict" talk that you hear on here. I don't, and neither does my head doc, consider myself a Nicotine Addict, but rather a Nicotine Abuser, but I do know that I like me without Copenhagen a lot better than with it. My lips don't hurt, my breath isn't toxic, my wife is happy, I'm not setting a bad example for my nephews, I've saved $1015 in 3 months from my "dip money" and I don't worry when I look into a can and realize I don't have enough shit to pack my lip in the morning.

There are a lot of things about me that I don't control right now. I'm fighting to regain control and some of them are going to be harder than others, but I'm not a slave to Copenhagen anymore. That's something I fought and won control over, and that's something I can build upon. One Day At A Time, because I survived Sapper School, combat, countless warrant executions, some big ass seas in the Bering Straits and I know that I can survive anything for one day. I'm a man of my word, so I give my word early to my group on roll and I do whatever it takes to survive that. Then I wake up and do it again, and slowly, each day has gotten easier. I'll be honest, a lot of the shit from therapy for my PTSD has made Quitting pretty easy compared to others. Things like thought pausing, shifting to my happy place, controlled breathing and all that. I wish it worked on my flashbacks and nightmares as good as it's gotten me through the early cravings. Which I don't crave anymore. I've practiced from the beginning telling myself, "I don't dip." Period. I burned the boat, I was winning the war or dying because I shut off any route to retreat. I would say it out loud, and slowly but surely, I began to believe it. I don't crave, because why would you crave something that you don't do? Something that is toxic? It's all about controlling, and changing your behaviors and your thoughts. A lot of people change their behavior,and that's great, they're Quit, but if you can change your though process about nicotine also, it makes Quitting so much easier. I told everyone publicly that I was Quit so that I'd be humiliated if they saw me dipping. I put 5-100 dollar bills in an envelope for my niece to keep if I caved in the first 50 days as extra incentive. I would leave money and cards at home so that I didn't have the ability to buy any shit. I got creatively crazy with it in the beginning. About day 35 or 40, I woke up and wasn't thinking about Copenhagen first thing. Now, I really don't crave even when I'm sitting here typing about it, because I don't do that shit anymore. I can talk about it, write about it, and I don't get that stupid ache that I'd get in the beginning.

I did/still do use fake chew. When I'm going fishing or working out on the ranch, I use Smokey Mountain Wintergreen. I put it in before I ever even start to get a ache or crave for the real shit, that way I don't have to fight a reaction I've banished from my system. It works for me, I only use it outside, and haven't used it without planning to, if that makes sense and if I use it until the day I die, I'm okay with that.

You can do this. I will support you and help you however I can. PM me, email me, text me, call me. I don't sleep much at night, so I don't care when it is. The only time I won't answer is if I'm in a Dr. appointment, then leave a v'mail and I'll call back or text QRF and I'll walk out and call you back. There are others on this site that will help you also.

Tom
number
email

Anyway, this was what I sent him. I really don't like alot of people in this world, so it's no surprise that I don't like alot of people on this site, but I found my group. That's what I like about this place. Their are enough people from different backgrounds, ages, parts of the country opps continent, can't leave out our Canadian Quit brothers, ay, that you can find people that Quit like you. And just because I don't like someone, nor them me, we're in this battle together and will have each others back. (With the one exception of the asshat who told me he wouldn't) But I digress. Take what you need, give what you can, post roll and be a man of your word. Everything else is gravy...................................................................




.........................................and get on Kakao 'na na'

Strong post Tom. Quit with you every damn day. Glad you reached out to help ForMyFamily.

I still use the "I don't do that shit anymore". Simple but it seems to work.

Quit on fucker! Quit on!

"I dont like most people" I can see you as Walter Mathau "Mr. Wilson" and "Dennis the Menace" aka Bone comes running across your lawn and you try and spray him with the hose.

Joking aside. Keep the strong quit ODAAT, and it is a privilege to quit along side you.

I'd spray Bone with my hose, but then Lim would get pissed at me.

QLF with all Titans!

Good post Tom! Proud to quit with you!!

At least you have a lawn unlike some people who may have commented directly before me.

Good post, Tom. Helping my quit as usual.

I still don't understand how a guy can live in the greater Seattle area and have a desert for a yard. CDub's a special kind of guy.

[Bonediddley]

I guess after two months of not chronicling anything I should post something to remember later. I'm cutting and pasting a pm I sent to someone struggling today. He's a combat vet and 22yr Army guy who deals with PTSD, TBI and a fucked up body also. It really kind of sums up a lot of my Quit so far:


Hey,

I was medically retired this summer after 17 years of service in the Army and Coast Guard. Lots of time in South America and both an Iraq and an A'stan tour. I live with PTSD, TBI and chronic pain, but one thing I don't live with anymore is Nicotine. I dipped since OSUT almost 18 years ago. I dipped openly and never even tried to Quit. I was up to 2 cans a day until this summer. I had my retirement party on the 4th of July and I was just sitting there thinking about it when I went to put my first dip of the morning in, how long I'd been dipping. I had a moment of clarity that if I didn't stop then, I'd never stop. I had a unique time as I was transitioning out of the service to break the habit. I Quit cold turkey without any type of plan 96 days ago. I was hurting real bad on day 4or 5 and found this site. I don't buy into a lot of people's bullshit on this site, but what does work for me is Brotherhood, Accountability and Support. I've got a group of Bad Ass guys, and two gals, that I give my word to every day that I'll make it through that day without putting nicotine into my body. At day 4 or 5, I couldn't see a week into the future, let alone 100 days of not using that shit, but I knew that I could put up with anything for 1 freaking day. So that's what I did, and still do. I post up on roll first thing after midnight or when I wake, giving my word and then I do whatever it takes to not dip. Now, it's gotten a lot easier.

I'll be honest upfront. I don't buy into a lot of this "everyone's an addict" talk that you hear on here. I don't, and neither does my head doc, consider myself a Nicotine Addict, but rather a Nicotine Abuser, but I do know that I like me without Copenhagen a lot better than with it. My lips don't hurt, my breath isn't toxic, my wife is happy, I'm not setting a bad example for my nephews, I've saved $1015 in 3 months from my "dip money" and I don't worry when I look into a can and realize I don't have enough shit to pack my lip in the morning.

There are a lot of things about me that I don't control right now. I'm fighting to regain control and some of them are going to be harder than others, but I'm not a slave to Copenhagen anymore. That's something I fought and won control over, and that's something I can build upon. One Day At A Time, because I survived Sapper School, combat, countless warrant executions, some big ass seas in the Bering Straits and I know that I can survive anything for one day. I'm a man of my word, so I give my word early to my group on roll and I do whatever it takes to survive that. Then I wake up and do it again, and slowly, each day has gotten easier. I'll be honest, a lot of the shit from therapy for my PTSD has made Quitting pretty easy compared to others. Things like thought pausing, shifting to my happy place, controlled breathing and all that. I wish it worked on my flashbacks and nightmares as good as it's gotten me through the early cravings. Which I don't crave anymore. I've practiced from the beginning telling myself, "I don't dip." Period. I burned the boat, I was winning the war or dying because I shut off any route to retreat. I would say it out loud, and slowly but surely, I began to believe it. I don't crave, because why would you crave something that you don't do? Something that is toxic? It's all about controlling, and changing your behaviors and your thoughts. A lot of people change their behavior,and that's great, they're Quit, but if you can change your though process about nicotine also, it makes Quitting so much easier. I told everyone publicly that I was Quit so that I'd be humiliated if they saw me dipping. I put 5-100 dollar bills in an envelope for my niece to keep if I caved in the first 50 days as extra incentive. I would leave money and cards at home so that I didn't have the ability to buy any shit. I got creatively crazy with it in the beginning. About day 35 or 40, I woke up and wasn't thinking about Copenhagen first thing. Now, I really don't crave even when I'm sitting here typing about it, because I don't do that shit anymore. I can talk about it, write about it, and I don't get that stupid ache that I'd get in the beginning.

I did/still do use fake chew. When I'm going fishing or working out on the ranch, I use Smokey Mountain Wintergreen. I put it in before I ever even start to get a ache or crave for the real shit, that way I don't have to fight a reaction I've banished from my system. It works for me, I only use it outside, and haven't used it without planning to, if that makes sense and if I use it until the day I die, I'm okay with that.

You can do this. I will support you and help you however I can. PM me, email me, text me, call me. I don't sleep much at night, so I don't care when it is. The only time I won't answer is if I'm in a Dr. appointment, then leave a v'mail and I'll call back or text QRF and I'll walk out and call you back. There are others on this site that will help you also.

Tom
number
email

Anyway, this was what I sent him. I really don't like alot of people in this world, so it's no surprise that I don't like alot of people on this site, but I found my group. That's what I like about this place. Their are enough people from different backgrounds, ages, parts of the country opps continent, can't leave out our Canadian Quit brothers, ay, that you can find people that Quit like you. And just because I don't like someone, nor them me, we're in this battle together and will have each others back. (With the one exception of the asshat who told me he wouldn't) But I digress. Take what you need, give what you can, post roll and be a man of your word. Everything else is gravy...................................................................




.........................................and get on Kakao 'na na'

Strong post Tom. Quit with you every damn day. Glad you reached out to help ForMyFamily.

I still use the "I don't do that shit anymore". Simple but it seems to work.

Quit on fucker! Quit on!

"I dont like most people" I can see you as Walter Mathau "Mr. Wilson" and "Dennis the Menace" aka Bone comes running across your lawn and you try and spray him with the hose.

Joking aside. Keep the strong quit ODAAT, and it is a privilege to quit along side you.

I'd spray Bone with my hose, but then Lim would get pissed at me.

QLF with all Titans!

Good post Tom! Proud to quit with you!!

At least you have a lawn unlike some people who may have commented directly before me.

Good post, Tom. Helping my quit as usual.

[CDub27]

I guess after two months of not chronicling anything I should post something to remember later. I'm cutting and pasting a pm I sent to someone struggling today. He's a combat vet and 22yr Army guy who deals with PTSD, TBI and a fucked up body also. It really kind of sums up a lot of my Quit so far:


Hey,

I was medically retired this summer after 17 years of service in the Army and Coast Guard. Lots of time in South America and both an Iraq and an A'stan tour. I live with PTSD, TBI and chronic pain, but one thing I don't live with anymore is Nicotine. I dipped since OSUT almost 18 years ago. I dipped openly and never even tried to Quit. I was up to 2 cans a day until this summer. I had my retirement party on the 4th of July and I was just sitting there thinking about it when I went to put my first dip of the morning in, how long I'd been dipping. I had a moment of clarity that if I didn't stop then, I'd never stop. I had a unique time as I was transitioning out of the service to break the habit. I Quit cold turkey without any type of plan 96 days ago. I was hurting real bad on day 4or 5 and found this site. I don't buy into a lot of people's bullshit on this site, but what does work for me is Brotherhood, Accountability and Support. I've got a group of Bad Ass guys, and two gals, that I give my word to every day that I'll make it through that day without putting nicotine into my body. At day 4 or 5, I couldn't see a week into the future, let alone 100 days of not using that shit, but I knew that I could put up with anything for 1 freaking day. So that's what I did, and still do. I post up on roll first thing after midnight or when I wake, giving my word and then I do whatever it takes to not dip. Now, it's gotten a lot easier.

I'll be honest upfront. I don't buy into a lot of this "everyone's an addict" talk that you hear on here. I don't, and neither does my head doc, consider myself a Nicotine Addict, but rather a Nicotine Abuser, but I do know that I like me without Copenhagen a lot better than with it. My lips don't hurt, my breath isn't toxic, my wife is happy, I'm not setting a bad example for my nephews, I've saved $1015 in 3 months from my "dip money" and I don't worry when I look into a can and realize I don't have enough shit to pack my lip in the morning.

There are a lot of things about me that I don't control right now. I'm fighting to regain control and some of them are going to be harder than others, but I'm not a slave to Copenhagen anymore. That's something I fought and won control over, and that's something I can build upon. One Day At A Time, because I survived Sapper School, combat, countless warrant executions, some big ass seas in the Bering Straits and I know that I can survive anything for one day. I'm a man of my word, so I give my word early to my group on roll and I do whatever it takes to survive that. Then I wake up and do it again, and slowly, each day has gotten easier. I'll be honest, a lot of the shit from therapy for my PTSD has made Quitting pretty easy compared to others. Things like thought pausing, shifting to my happy place, controlled breathing and all that. I wish it worked on my flashbacks and nightmares as good as it's gotten me through the early cravings. Which I don't crave anymore. I've practiced from the beginning telling myself, "I don't dip." Period. I burned the boat, I was winning the war or dying because I shut off any route to retreat. I would say it out loud, and slowly but surely, I began to believe it. I don't crave, because why would you crave something that you don't do? Something that is toxic? It's all about controlling, and changing your behaviors and your thoughts. A lot of people change their behavior,and that's great, they're Quit, but if you can change your though process about nicotine also, it makes Quitting so much easier. I told everyone publicly that I was Quit so that I'd be humiliated if they saw me dipping. I put 5-100 dollar bills in an envelope for my niece to keep if I caved in the first 50 days as extra incentive. I would leave money and cards at home so that I didn't have the ability to buy any shit. I got creatively crazy with it in the beginning. About day 35 or 40, I woke up and wasn't thinking about Copenhagen first thing. Now, I really don't crave even when I'm sitting here typing about it, because I don't do that shit anymore. I can talk about it, write about it, and I don't get that stupid ache that I'd get in the beginning.

I did/still do use fake chew. When I'm going fishing or working out on the ranch, I use Smokey Mountain Wintergreen. I put it in before I ever even start to get a ache or crave for the real shit, that way I don't have to fight a reaction I've banished from my system. It works for me, I only use it outside, and haven't used it without planning to, if that makes sense and if I use it until the day I die, I'm okay with that.

You can do this. I will support you and help you however I can. PM me, email me, text me, call me. I don't sleep much at night, so I don't care when it is. The only time I won't answer is if I'm in a Dr. appointment, then leave a v'mail and I'll call back or text QRF and I'll walk out and call you back. There are others on this site that will help you also.

Tom
number
email

Anyway, this was what I sent him. I really don't like alot of people in this world, so it's no surprise that I don't like alot of people on this site, but I found my group. That's what I like about this place. Their are enough people from different backgrounds, ages, parts of the country opps continent, can't leave out our Canadian Quit brothers, ay, that you can find people that Quit like you. And just because I don't like someone, nor them me, we're in this battle together and will have each others back. (With the one exception of the asshat who told me he wouldn't) But I digress. Take what you need, give what you can, post roll and be a man of your word. Everything else is gravy...................................................................




.........................................and get on Kakao 'na na'

Strong post Tom. Quit with you every damn day. Glad you reached out to help ForMyFamily.

I still use the "I don't do that shit anymore". Simple but it seems to work.

Quit on fucker! Quit on!

"I dont like most people" I can see you as Walter Mathau "Mr. Wilson" and "Dennis the Menace" aka Bone comes running across your lawn and you try and spray him with the hose.

Joking aside. Keep the strong quit ODAAT, and it is a privilege to quit along side you.

I'd spray Bone with my hose, but then Lim would get pissed at me.

QLF with all Titans!

Good post Tom! Proud to quit with you!!

[tsj12b]

I guess after two months of not chronicling anything I should post something to remember later. I'm cutting and pasting a pm I sent to someone struggling today. He's a combat vet and 22yr Army guy who deals with PTSD, TBI and a fucked up body also. It really kind of sums up a lot of my Quit so far:


Hey,

I was medically retired this summer after 17 years of service in the Army and Coast Guard. Lots of time in South America and both an Iraq and an A'stan tour. I live with PTSD, TBI and chronic pain, but one thing I don't live with anymore is Nicotine. I dipped since OSUT almost 18 years ago. I dipped openly and never even tried to Quit. I was up to 2 cans a day until this summer. I had my retirement party on the 4th of July and I was just sitting there thinking about it when I went to put my first dip of the morning in, how long I'd been dipping. I had a moment of clarity that if I didn't stop then, I'd never stop. I had a unique time as I was transitioning out of the service to break the habit. I Quit cold turkey without any type of plan 96 days ago. I was hurting real bad on day 4or 5 and found this site. I don't buy into a lot of people's bullshit on this site, but what does work for me is Brotherhood, Accountability and Support. I've got a group of Bad Ass guys, and two gals, that I give my word to every day that I'll make it through that day without putting nicotine into my body. At day 4 or 5, I couldn't see a week into the future, let alone 100 days of not using that shit, but I knew that I could put up with anything for 1 freaking day. So that's what I did, and still do. I post up on roll first thing after midnight or when I wake, giving my word and then I do whatever it takes to not dip. Now, it's gotten a lot easier.

I'll be honest upfront. I don't buy into a lot of this "everyone's an addict" talk that you hear on here. I don't, and neither does my head doc, consider myself a Nicotine Addict, but rather a Nicotine Abuser, but I do know that I like me without Copenhagen a lot better than with it. My lips don't hurt, my breath isn't toxic, my wife is happy, I'm not setting a bad example for my nephews, I've saved $1015 in 3 months from my "dip money" and I don't worry when I look into a can and realize I don't have enough shit to pack my lip in the morning.

There are a lot of things about me that I don't control right now. I'm fighting to regain control and some of them are going to be harder than others, but I'm not a slave to Copenhagen anymore. That's something I fought and won control over, and that's something I can build upon. One Day At A Time, because I survived Sapper School, combat, countless warrant executions, some big ass seas in the Bering Straits and I know that I can survive anything for one day. I'm a man of my word, so I give my word early to my group on roll and I do whatever it takes to survive that. Then I wake up and do it again, and slowly, each day has gotten easier. I'll be honest, a lot of the shit from therapy for my PTSD has made Quitting pretty easy compared to others. Things like thought pausing, shifting to my happy place, controlled breathing and all that. I wish it worked on my flashbacks and nightmares as good as it's gotten me through the early cravings. Which I don't crave anymore. I've practiced from the beginning telling myself, "I don't dip." Period. I burned the boat, I was winning the war or dying because I shut off any route to retreat. I would say it out loud, and slowly but surely, I began to believe it. I don't crave, because why would you crave something that you don't do? Something that is toxic? It's all about controlling, and changing your behaviors and your thoughts. A lot of people change their behavior,and that's great, they're Quit, but if you can change your though process about nicotine also, it makes Quitting so much easier. I told everyone publicly that I was Quit so that I'd be humiliated if they saw me dipping. I put 5-100 dollar bills in an envelope for my niece to keep if I caved in the first 50 days as extra incentive. I would leave money and cards at home so that I didn't have the ability to buy any shit. I got creatively crazy with it in the beginning. About day 35 or 40, I woke up and wasn't thinking about Copenhagen first thing. Now, I really don't crave even when I'm sitting here typing about it, because I don't do that shit anymore. I can talk about it, write about it, and I don't get that stupid ache that I'd get in the beginning.

I did/still do use fake chew. When I'm going fishing or working out on the ranch, I use Smokey Mountain Wintergreen. I put it in before I ever even start to get a ache or crave for the real shit, that way I don't have to fight a reaction I've banished from my system. It works for me, I only use it outside, and haven't used it without planning to, if that makes sense and if I use it until the day I die, I'm okay with that.

You can do this. I will support you and help you however I can. PM me, email me, text me, call me. I don't sleep much at night, so I don't care when it is. The only time I won't answer is if I'm in a Dr. appointment, then leave a v'mail and I'll call back or text QRF and I'll walk out and call you back. There are others on this site that will help you also.

Tom
number
email

Anyway, this was what I sent him. I really don't like alot of people in this world, so it's no surprise that I don't like alot of people on this site, but I found my group. That's what I like about this place. Their are enough people from different backgrounds, ages, parts of the country opps continent, can't leave out our Canadian Quit brothers, ay, that you can find people that Quit like you. And just because I don't like someone, nor them me, we're in this battle together and will have each others back. (With the one exception of the asshat who told me he wouldn't) But I digress. Take what you need, give what you can, post roll and be a man of your word. Everything else is gravy...................................................................




.........................................and get on Kakao 'na na'

Strong post Tom. Quit with you every damn day. Glad you reached out to help ForMyFamily.

I still use the "I don't do that shit anymore". Simple but it seems to work.

Quit on fucker! Quit on!

"I dont like most people" I can see you as Walter Mathau "Mr. Wilson" and "Dennis the Menace" aka Bone comes running across your lawn and you try and spray him with the hose.

Joking aside. Keep the strong quit ODAAT, and it is a privilege to quit along side you.

I'd spray Bone with my hose, but then Lim would get pissed at me.

QLF with all Titans!

[Candoit]

I guess after two months of not chronicling anything I should post something to remember later. I'm cutting and pasting a pm I sent to someone struggling today. He's a combat vet and 22yr Army guy who deals with PTSD, TBI and a fucked up body also. It really kind of sums up a lot of my Quit so far:


Hey,

I was medically retired this summer after 17 years of service in the Army and Coast Guard. Lots of time in South America and both an Iraq and an A'stan tour. I live with PTSD, TBI and chronic pain, but one thing I don't live with anymore is Nicotine. I dipped since OSUT almost 18 years ago. I dipped openly and never even tried to Quit. I was up to 2 cans a day until this summer. I had my retirement party on the 4th of July and I was just sitting there thinking about it when I went to put my first dip of the morning in, how long I'd been dipping. I had a moment of clarity that if I didn't stop then, I'd never stop. I had a unique time as I was transitioning out of the service to break the habit. I Quit cold turkey without any type of plan 96 days ago. I was hurting real bad on day 4or 5 and found this site. I don't buy into a lot of people's bullshit on this site, but what does work for me is Brotherhood, Accountability and Support. I've got a group of Bad Ass guys, and two gals, that I give my word to every day that I'll make it through that day without putting nicotine into my body. At day 4 or 5, I couldn't see a week into the future, let alone 100 days of not using that shit, but I knew that I could put up with anything for 1 freaking day. So that's what I did, and still do. I post up on roll first thing after midnight or when I wake, giving my word and then I do whatever it takes to not dip. Now, it's gotten a lot easier.

I'll be honest upfront. I don't buy into a lot of this "everyone's an addict" talk that you hear on here. I don't, and neither does my head doc, consider myself a Nicotine Addict, but rather a Nicotine Abuser, but I do know that I like me without Copenhagen a lot better than with it. My lips don't hurt, my breath isn't toxic, my wife is happy, I'm not setting a bad example for my nephews, I've saved $1015 in 3 months from my "dip money" and I don't worry when I look into a can and realize I don't have enough shit to pack my lip in the morning.

There are a lot of things about me that I don't control right now. I'm fighting to regain control and some of them are going to be harder than others, but I'm not a slave to Copenhagen anymore. That's something I fought and won control over, and that's something I can build upon. One Day At A Time, because I survived Sapper School, combat, countless warrant executions, some big ass seas in the Bering Straits and I know that I can survive anything for one day. I'm a man of my word, so I give my word early to my group on roll and I do whatever it takes to survive that. Then I wake up and do it again, and slowly, each day has gotten easier. I'll be honest, a lot of the shit from therapy for my PTSD has made Quitting pretty easy compared to others. Things like thought pausing, shifting to my happy place, controlled breathing and all that. I wish it worked on my flashbacks and nightmares as good as it's gotten me through the early cravings. Which I don't crave anymore. I've practiced from the beginning telling myself, "I don't dip." Period. I burned the boat, I was winning the war or dying because I shut off any route to retreat. I would say it out loud, and slowly but surely, I began to believe it. I don't crave, because why would you crave something that you don't do? Something that is toxic? It's all about controlling, and changing your behaviors and your thoughts. A lot of people change their behavior,and that's great, they're Quit, but if you can change your though process about nicotine also, it makes Quitting so much easier. I told everyone publicly that I was Quit so that I'd be humiliated if they saw me dipping. I put 5-100 dollar bills in an envelope for my niece to keep if I caved in the first 50 days as extra incentive. I would leave money and cards at home so that I didn't have the ability to buy any shit. I got creatively crazy with it in the beginning. About day 35 or 40, I woke up and wasn't thinking about Copenhagen first thing. Now, I really don't crave even when I'm sitting here typing about it, because I don't do that shit anymore. I can talk about it, write about it, and I don't get that stupid ache that I'd get in the beginning.

I did/still do use fake chew. When I'm going fishing or working out on the ranch, I use Smokey Mountain Wintergreen. I put it in before I ever even start to get a ache or crave for the real shit, that way I don't have to fight a reaction I've banished from my system. It works for me, I only use it outside, and haven't used it without planning to, if that makes sense and if I use it until the day I die, I'm okay with that.

You can do this. I will support you and help you however I can. PM me, email me, text me, call me. I don't sleep much at night, so I don't care when it is. The only time I won't answer is if I'm in a Dr. appointment, then leave a v'mail and I'll call back or text QRF and I'll walk out and call you back. There are others on this site that will help you also.

Tom
number
email

Anyway, this was what I sent him. I really don't like alot of people in this world, so it's no surprise that I don't like alot of people on this site, but I found my group. That's what I like about this place. Their are enough people from different backgrounds, ages, parts of the country opps continent, can't leave out our Canadian Quit brothers, ay, that you can find people that Quit like you. And just because I don't like someone, nor them me, we're in this battle together and will have each others back. (With the one exception of the asshat who told me he wouldn't) But I digress. Take what you need, give what you can, post roll and be a man of your word. Everything else is gravy...................................................................




.........................................and get on Kakao 'na na'

Strong post Tom. Quit with you every damn day. Glad you reached out to help ForMyFamily.

I still use the "I don't do that shit anymore". Simple but it seems to work.

Quit on fucker! Quit on!

"I dont like most people" I can see you as Walter Mathau "Mr. Wilson" and "Dennis the Menace" aka Bone comes running across your lawn and you try and spray him with the hose.

Joking aside. Keep the strong quit ODAAT, and it is a privilege to quit along side you.

[FMBM707]

I guess after two months of not chronicling anything I should post something to remember later. I'm cutting and pasting a pm I sent to someone struggling today. He's a combat vet and 22yr Army guy who deals with PTSD, TBI and a fucked up body also. It really kind of sums up a lot of my Quit so far:


Hey,

I was medically retired this summer after 17 years of service in the Army and Coast Guard. Lots of time in South America and both an Iraq and an A'stan tour. I live with PTSD, TBI and chronic pain, but one thing I don't live with anymore is Nicotine. I dipped since OSUT almost 18 years ago. I dipped openly and never even tried to Quit. I was up to 2 cans a day until this summer. I had my retirement party on the 4th of July and I was just sitting there thinking about it when I went to put my first dip of the morning in, how long I'd been dipping. I had a moment of clarity that if I didn't stop then, I'd never stop. I had a unique time as I was transitioning out of the service to break the habit. I Quit cold turkey without any type of plan 96 days ago. I was hurting real bad on day 4or 5 and found this site. I don't buy into a lot of people's bullshit on this site, but what does work for me is Brotherhood, Accountability and Support. I've got a group of Bad Ass guys, and two gals, that I give my word to every day that I'll make it through that day without putting nicotine into my body. At day 4 or 5, I couldn't see a week into the future, let alone 100 days of not using that shit, but I knew that I could put up with anything for 1 freaking day. So that's what I did, and still do. I post up on roll first thing after midnight or when I wake, giving my word and then I do whatever it takes to not dip. Now, it's gotten a lot easier.

I'll be honest upfront. I don't buy into a lot of this "everyone's an addict" talk that you hear on here. I don't, and neither does my head doc, consider myself a Nicotine Addict, but rather a Nicotine Abuser, but I do know that I like me without Copenhagen a lot better than with it. My lips don't hurt, my breath isn't toxic, my wife is happy, I'm not setting a bad example for my nephews, I've saved $1015 in 3 months from my "dip money" and I don't worry when I look into a can and realize I don't have enough shit to pack my lip in the morning.

There are a lot of things about me that I don't control right now. I'm fighting to regain control and some of them are going to be harder than others, but I'm not a slave to Copenhagen anymore. That's something I fought and won control over, and that's something I can build upon. One Day At A Time, because I survived Sapper School, combat, countless warrant executions, some big ass seas in the Bering Straits and I know that I can survive anything for one day. I'm a man of my word, so I give my word early to my group on roll and I do whatever it takes to survive that. Then I wake up and do it again, and slowly, each day has gotten easier. I'll be honest, a lot of the shit from therapy for my PTSD has made Quitting pretty easy compared to others. Things like thought pausing, shifting to my happy place, controlled breathing and all that. I wish it worked on my flashbacks and nightmares as good as it's gotten me through the early cravings. Which I don't crave anymore. I've practiced from the beginning telling myself, "I don't dip." Period. I burned the boat, I was winning the war or dying because I shut off any route to retreat. I would say it out loud, and slowly but surely, I began to believe it. I don't crave, because why would you crave something that you don't do? Something that is toxic? It's all about controlling, and changing your behaviors and your thoughts. A lot of people change their behavior,and that's great, they're Quit, but if you can change your though process about nicotine also, it makes Quitting so much easier. I told everyone publicly that I was Quit so that I'd be humiliated if they saw me dipping. I put 5-100 dollar bills in an envelope for my niece to keep if I caved in the first 50 days as extra incentive. I would leave money and cards at home so that I didn't have the ability to buy any shit. I got creatively crazy with it in the beginning. About day 35 or 40, I woke up and wasn't thinking about Copenhagen first thing. Now, I really don't crave even when I'm sitting here typing about it, because I don't do that shit anymore. I can talk about it, write about it, and I don't get that stupid ache that I'd get in the beginning.

I did/still do use fake chew. When I'm going fishing or working out on the ranch, I use Smokey Mountain Wintergreen. I put it in before I ever even start to get a ache or crave for the real shit, that way I don't have to fight a reaction I've banished from my system. It works for me, I only use it outside, and haven't used it without planning to, if that makes sense and if I use it until the day I die, I'm okay with that.

You can do this. I will support you and help you however I can. PM me, email me, text me, call me. I don't sleep much at night, so I don't care when it is. The only time I won't answer is if I'm in a Dr. appointment, then leave a v'mail and I'll call back or text QRF and I'll walk out and call you back. There are others on this site that will help you also.

Tom
number
email

Anyway, this was what I sent him. I really don't like alot of people in this world, so it's no surprise that I don't like alot of people on this site, but I found my group. That's what I like about this place. Their are enough people from different backgrounds, ages, parts of the country opps continent, can't leave out our Canadian Quit brothers, ay, that you can find people that Quit like you. And just because I don't like someone, nor them me, we're in this battle together and will have each others back. (With the one exception of the asshat who told me he wouldn't) But I digress. Take what you need, give what you can, post roll and be a man of your word. Everything else is gravy...................................................................




.........................................and get on Kakao 'na na'

Strong post Tom. Quit with you every damn day. Glad you reached out to help ForMyFamily.

I still use the "I don't do that shit anymore". Simple but it seems to work.

Quit on fucker! Quit on!

[tsj12b]

I guess after two months of not chronicling anything I should post something to remember later. I'm cutting and pasting a pm I sent to someone struggling today. He's a combat vet and 22yr Army guy who deals with PTSD, TBI and a fucked up body also. It really kind of sums up a lot of my Quit so far:


Hey,

I was medically retired this summer after 17 years of service in the Army and Coast Guard. Lots of time in South America and both an Iraq and an A'stan tour. I live with PTSD, TBI and chronic pain, but one thing I don't live with anymore is Nicotine. I dipped since OSUT almost 18 years ago. I dipped openly and never even tried to Quit. I was up to 2 cans a day until this summer. I had my retirement party on the 4th of July and I was just sitting there thinking about it when I went to put my first dip of the morning in, how long I'd been dipping. I had a moment of clarity that if I didn't stop then, I'd never stop. I had a unique time as I was transitioning out of the service to break the habit. I Quit cold turkey without any type of plan 96 days ago. I was hurting real bad on day 4or 5 and found this site. I don't buy into a lot of people's bullshit on this site, but what does work for me is Brotherhood, Accountability and Support. I've got a group of Bad Ass guys, and two gals, that I give my word to every day that I'll make it through that day without putting nicotine into my body. At day 4 or 5, I couldn't see a week into the future, let alone 100 days of not using that shit, but I knew that I could put up with anything for 1 freaking day. So that's what I did, and still do. I post up on roll first thing after midnight or when I wake, giving my word and then I do whatever it takes to not dip. Now, it's gotten a lot easier.

I'll be honest upfront. I don't buy into a lot of this "everyone's an addict" talk that you hear on here. I don't, and neither does my head doc, consider myself a Nicotine Addict, but rather a Nicotine Abuser, but I do know that I like me without Copenhagen a lot better than with it. My lips don't hurt, my breath isn't toxic, my wife is happy, I'm not setting a bad example for my nephews, I've saved $1015 in 3 months from my "dip money" and I don't worry when I look into a can and realize I don't have enough shit to pack my lip in the morning.

There are a lot of things about me that I don't control right now. I'm fighting to regain control and some of them are going to be harder than others, but I'm not a slave to Copenhagen anymore. That's something I fought and won control over, and that's something I can build upon. One Day At A Time, because I survived Sapper School, combat, countless warrant executions, some big ass seas in the Bering Straits and I know that I can survive anything for one day. I'm a man of my word, so I give my word early to my group on roll and I do whatever it takes to survive that. Then I wake up and do it again, and slowly, each day has gotten easier. I'll be honest, a lot of the shit from therapy for my PTSD has made Quitting pretty easy compared to others. Things like thought pausing, shifting to my happy place, controlled breathing and all that. I wish it worked on my flashbacks and nightmares as good as it's gotten me through the early cravings. Which I don't crave anymore. I've practiced from the beginning telling myself, "I don't dip." Period. I burned the boat, I was winning the war or dying because I shut off any route to retreat. I would say it out loud, and slowly but surely, I began to believe it. I don't crave, because why would you crave something that you don't do? Something that is toxic? It's all about controlling, and changing your behaviors and your thoughts. A lot of people change their behavior,and that's great, they're Quit, but if you can change your though process about nicotine also, it makes Quitting so much easier. I told everyone publicly that I was Quit so that I'd be humiliated if they saw me dipping. I put 5-100 dollar bills in an envelope for my niece to keep if I caved in the first 50 days as extra incentive. I would leave money and cards at home so that I didn't have the ability to buy any shit. I got creatively crazy with it in the beginning. About day 35 or 40, I woke up and wasn't thinking about Copenhagen first thing. Now, I really don't crave even when I'm sitting here typing about it, because I don't do that shit anymore. I can talk about it, write about it, and I don't get that stupid ache that I'd get in the beginning.

I did/still do use fake chew. When I'm going fishing or working out on the ranch, I use Smokey Mountain Wintergreen. I put it in before I ever even start to get a ache or crave for the real shit, that way I don't have to fight a reaction I've banished from my system. It works for me, I only use it outside, and haven't used it without planning to, if that makes sense and if I use it until the day I die, I'm okay with that.

You can do this. I will support you and help you however I can. PM me, email me, text me, call me. I don't sleep much at night, so I don't care when it is. The only time I won't answer is if I'm in a Dr. appointment, then leave a v'mail and I'll call back or text QRF and I'll walk out and call you back. There are others on this site that will help you also.

Tom
number
email

Anyway, this was what I sent him. I really don't like alot of people in this world, so it's no surprise that I don't like alot of people on this site, but I found my group. That's what I like about this place. Their are enough people from different backgrounds, ages, parts of the country opps continent, can't leave out our Canadian Quit brothers, ay, that you can find people that Quit like you. And just because I don't like someone, nor them me, we're in this battle together and will have each others back. (With the one exception of the asshat who told me he wouldn't) But I digress. Take what you need, give what you can, post roll and be a man of your word. Everything else is gravy...................................................................




.........................................and get on Kakao 'na na'

[enav]

Glad to be quit with you! Badass USCG brother! Even if you are a BM ya still a badass! Haha

[tsj12b]

Fucking rage today! Combination of several things, but I honestly don't think my Quit has an impact on it. I think for the first day since I Quit that my anger is the appropriate amount to an appropriate situation.

Oh yeah, and fuck the VA.

And the above was Day 35 for future info.

[tsj12b]

Fucking rage today! Combination of several things, but I honestly don't think my Quit has an impact on it. I think for the first day since I Quit that my anger is the appropriate amount to an appropriate situation.

Oh yeah, and fuck the VA.

[Grizzlyhasclaws]

I posted this on October's roll in response to a misplaced attempt by someone to demonstrate the power of the Group Quit and accountability. I don't want to lose it and maybe there is something here that someone else can use, so here it goes:

It's a good thing I read to the bottom because you were getting me spun up.

I'm not saying what I'm about to say works for everyone, but it is the approach I'm taking. We could get into the mechanics of how certain people's brains work versus other, but my mental approach to my QUIT is based upon my path to control of my PTSD and is what I've worked out with my therapist and Doc......having said that....

I'm trying very hard to reinforce to myself that I don't crave. I don't use Tobacco so why would I crave it? I don't crave raw Sushi, rocky mountain oysters, huffing paint or getting banged in the ass, so why would I crave nicotine? I don't dip Copenhagon, nor do I enjoy it. "Craving" it, gives it power over me. Now, I am addicted to Nicotine, always will be and the Nic Bitch tries to tell me that I want, need and desire her, but she is a liar. I severed the dysfunctinal relationship I had with her. I don't dip!

Now, when I feel her whispering in my ear, I replace my thought from "oh I'm craving so bad I better not cave" to instead telling myself "I dont dip, I have a lot of friends that don't dip and the Nic Bitch is a liar.". I literally say this to myself. It works off of repitition, thought shifting, backed by the reminder that I have friends that don't dip( Titans). Implied in that last part is the reminder of the Group Quit and my promise of roll.

Now, I'm not saying this is how everyone can/should approach it, but it is how I'm worling to remove what some would call the "mental" crave. I also ensure I have physical replacements that I use BEFORE those moments/activities where I'm learning the Big bitch works hardest as oppossed to a response from her. Everything is geared towards removing the power from the drug. I do however keep fake for an emergency, that whole anything except heroin or adultury to protect my QUIT.

Just my 2 cents

nic TSJ - I see some good learning going on in here for you. Put down your thoughts, and those of others. Take what you need. And here is a good place to put it so you can reference it.

keep that sponge-like attitude and arm yourself with what you can.

well done

Makes perfect sense to me. Keep it up.

[SirDerek]

I posted this on October's roll in response to a misplaced attempt by someone to demonstrate the power of the Group Quit and accountability. I don't want to lose it and maybe there is something here that someone else can use, so here it goes:

It's a good thing I read to the bottom because you were getting me spun up.

I'm not saying what I'm about to say works for everyone, but it is the approach I'm taking. We could get into the mechanics of how certain people's brains work versus other, but my mental approach to my QUIT is based upon my path to control of my PTSD and is what I've worked out with my therapist and Doc......having said that....

I'm trying very hard to reinforce to myself that I don't crave. I don't use Tobacco so why would I crave it? I don't crave raw Sushi, rocky mountain oysters, huffing paint or getting banged in the ass, so why would I crave nicotine? I don't dip Copenhagon, nor do I enjoy it. "Craving" it, gives it power over me. Now, I am addicted to Nicotine, always will be and the Nic Bitch tries to tell me that I want, need and desire her, but she is a liar. I severed the dysfunctinal relationship I had with her. I don't dip!

Now, when I feel her whispering in my ear, I replace my thought from "oh I'm craving so bad I better not cave" to instead telling myself "I dont dip, I have a lot of friends that don't dip and the Nic Bitch is a liar.". I literally say this to myself. It works off of repitition, thought shifting, backed by the reminder that I have friends that don't dip( Titans). Implied in that last part is the reminder of the Group Quit and my promise of roll.

Now, I'm not saying this is how everyone can/should approach it, but it is how I'm worling to remove what some would call the "mental" crave. I also ensure I have physical replacements that I use BEFORE those moments/activities where I'm learning the Big bitch works hardest as oppossed to a response from her. Everything is geared towards removing the power from the drug. I do however keep fake for an emergency, that whole anything except heroin or adultury to protect my QUIT.

Just my 2 cents

nic TSJ - I see some good learning going on in here for you. Put down your thoughts, and those of others. Take what you need. And here is a good place to put it so you can reference it.

keep that sponge-like attitude and arm yourself with what you can.

well done

[tsj12b]

I posted this on October's roll in response to a misplaced attempt by someone to demonstrate the power of the Group Quit and accountability. I don't want to lose it and maybe there is something here that someone else can use, so here it goes:

It's a good thing I read to the bottom because you were getting me spun up.

I'm not saying what I'm about to say works for everyone, but it is the approach I'm taking. We could get into the mechanics of how certain people's brains work versus other, but my mental approach to my QUIT is based upon my path to control of my PTSD and is what I've worked out with my therapist and Doc......having said that....

I'm trying very hard to reinforce to myself that I don't crave. I don't use Tobacco so why would I crave it? I don't crave raw Sushi, rocky mountain oysters, huffing paint or getting banged in the ass, so why would I crave nicotine? I don't dip Copenhagon, nor do I enjoy it. "Craving" it, gives it power over me. Now, I am addicted to Nicotine, always will be and the Nic Bitch tries to tell me that I want, need and desire her, but she is a liar. I severed the dysfunctinal relationship I had with her. I don't dip!

Now, when I feel her whispering in my ear, I replace my thought from "oh I'm craving so bad I better not cave" to instead telling myself "I dont dip, I have a lot of friends that don't dip and the Nic Bitch is a liar.". I literally say this to myself. It works off of repitition, thought shifting, backed by the reminder that I have friends that don't dip( Titans). Implied in that last part is the reminder of the Group Quit and my promise of roll.

Now, I'm not saying this is how everyone can/should approach it, but it is how I'm worling to remove what some would call the "mental" crave. I also ensure I have physical replacements that I use BEFORE those moments/activities where I'm learning the Big bitch works hardest as oppossed to a response from her. Everything is geared towards removing the power from the drug. I do however keep fake for an emergency, that whole anything except heroin or adultury to protect my QUIT.

Just my 2 cents