Mark4

[bronc]

I started a new business about a year ago. And, its been a long hard year. Things are dire, probably going to lose it all, financially and professionally. IÂ’m tired, defeated, angry, doubting myself, my leadership, and fearing for my family. And then my quit stands there asking for 100% from me when thereÂ’s just nothing left. Each day lately, I force myself here and engage, but its like trying to make small talk while your house is on fire all around you. Feels kinda fake.

Yesterday was a really bad day dealing with all this. For some reason last night, I shot out a text to my group and opened up about this to them. I feared doing that, as it is so personal. After discussing why our name changed to “Circle Jerks”, it got serious. In seconds all of them were texting away about what’s going on, how to help, and just being there. They don’t know it, but half the time I sat there teared up reading their words of encouragement, concern, support and some inappropriate ghey offers. Then today, my old June gang shows up in force, text bombing me. I don’t even know how they found out. But it was awesome and powerful and humbling. They will never know what a pick-me-up that was. It’s hard to stay down when that many people are trying to lift your sorry ass up.

Last night, my quit evolved. It got real and personal. Things were said IÂ’d expect from life long friends. Today, I came in to work not only supported to quit, but supported to face life. How does this happen? We are just random people who landed in groups. But its like weÂ’ve been buds for years. We couldnÂ’t be any different. This addiction that made us all bitches, also makes us tight fighting for our freedom. KTC is an amazing tool, but itÂ’s the other addicts who stand with you that is the secret sauce here.

If you only know people here casually and only do your KTC duties, you are missing the boat. I’ve found a treasure here that goes well beyond ditching a rancid tin. Rather than defeated, bored and in-a-slump, I’m jazzed about these goofy people and deeply sincere about staying true to them. It’s a bright spot in the quit and in the midst of terribly bad days. I went from annoyed at all the texts all day, to finding myself always in touch with them and whats up in their world. This binds us. There’s no way I can face them with a fail – its now far too personal.

I love and thank my Circle Jerks, the June 2014 crew, and all the Turtles who blew up my phone the past 24 hours. I encourage you all to go get some of this, its everywhere. Enough serious talk for now.

Sounds like you are winning. Keep it up. We are here for ya.

We are here yes we are. Quit on

Accountability + Brotherhood = Success

That Brotherhood part of the equation is no joke. Without the 2 pieces on the left side of that equation there is no success.

You can do this. Hang strong. Quit with you today!

June is strongly with you my friend. You may have to start over in your business, but that's ok. The great ones have tried and failed many times on the business side of things. You know some things you won't have to do over? I'll remind you:

1.) Going through the suck of the first 10 days.
2.) Repeating these last 35 days
3.) Writing responses to the three questions and getting gang banged
4.) Having to have your honor and integrity questioned
5.) Not being able to look your wife and kids in the eye.
6.) Hiding in guilt and shame
7.) Wallowing in self-pity
8.) Sitting around being scared you're going to die from lip cancer or worse, having half your face removed.
9.) That most awful feeling of being alone
10.) Manufacturing lies to make yourself feel better for being a liar and a cheat.


Those are just off the top of my head. You can rebuild a business and finances a lot easier than you can rebuild the man of honor, integrity and character you've become. You may not have been able to control your businesses' fate. That's just what it is. But you can totally control what you do with "who" you are.

I'm looking forward to being able to point to you to young quitters and say something like this: "Mark was going through his first 100 days of quit when his business went in the shitter and it bankrupted him. He didn't give up the quit. He fought and pressed on and is now a badass quitter helping others." That's a good ending to this story Mark. I wish I got to write it for you but only you get to write it. We're here. Do not let losing a business make you lose a bunch of friends. That's just not how it works.

[Derk40]

I started a new business about a year ago. And, its been a long hard year. Things are dire, probably going to lose it all, financially and professionally. IÂ’m tired, defeated, angry, doubting myself, my leadership, and fearing for my family. And then my quit stands there asking for 100% from me when thereÂ’s just nothing left. Each day lately, I force myself here and engage, but its like trying to make small talk while your house is on fire all around you. Feels kinda fake.

Yesterday was a really bad day dealing with all this. For some reason last night, I shot out a text to my group and opened up about this to them. I feared doing that, as it is so personal. After discussing why our name changed to “Circle Jerks”, it got serious. In seconds all of them were texting away about what’s going on, how to help, and just being there. They don’t know it, but half the time I sat there teared up reading their words of encouragement, concern, support and some inappropriate ghey offers. Then today, my old June gang shows up in force, text bombing me. I don’t even know how they found out. But it was awesome and powerful and humbling. They will never know what a pick-me-up that was. It’s hard to stay down when that many people are trying to lift your sorry ass up.

Last night, my quit evolved. It got real and personal. Things were said IÂ’d expect from life long friends. Today, I came in to work not only supported to quit, but supported to face life. How does this happen? We are just random people who landed in groups. But its like weÂ’ve been buds for years. We couldnÂ’t be any different. This addiction that made us all bitches, also makes us tight fighting for our freedom. KTC is an amazing tool, but itÂ’s the other addicts who stand with you that is the secret sauce here.

If you only know people here casually and only do your KTC duties, you are missing the boat. I’ve found a treasure here that goes well beyond ditching a rancid tin. Rather than defeated, bored and in-a-slump, I’m jazzed about these goofy people and deeply sincere about staying true to them. It’s a bright spot in the quit and in the midst of terribly bad days. I went from annoyed at all the texts all day, to finding myself always in touch with them and whats up in their world. This binds us. There’s no way I can face them with a fail – its now far too personal.

I love and thank my Circle Jerks, the June 2014 crew, and all the Turtles who blew up my phone the past 24 hours. I encourage you all to go get some of this, its everywhere. Enough serious talk for now.

Sounds like you are winning. Keep it up. We are here for ya.

We are here yes we are. Quit on

Accountability + Brotherhood = Success

That Brotherhood part of the equation is no joke. Without the 2 pieces on the left side of that equation there is no success.

You can do this. Hang strong. Quit with you today!

[Maxjohnson]

I started a new business about a year ago. And, its been a long hard year. Things are dire, probably going to lose it all, financially and professionally. IÂ’m tired, defeated, angry, doubting myself, my leadership, and fearing for my family. And then my quit stands there asking for 100% from me when thereÂ’s just nothing left. Each day lately, I force myself here and engage, but its like trying to make small talk while your house is on fire all around you. Feels kinda fake.

Yesterday was a really bad day dealing with all this. For some reason last night, I shot out a text to my group and opened up about this to them. I feared doing that, as it is so personal. After discussing why our name changed to “Circle Jerks”, it got serious. In seconds all of them were texting away about what’s going on, how to help, and just being there. They don’t know it, but half the time I sat there teared up reading their words of encouragement, concern, support and some inappropriate ghey offers. Then today, my old June gang shows up in force, text bombing me. I don’t even know how they found out. But it was awesome and powerful and humbling. They will never know what a pick-me-up that was. It’s hard to stay down when that many people are trying to lift your sorry ass up.

Last night, my quit evolved. It got real and personal. Things were said IÂ’d expect from life long friends. Today, I came in to work not only supported to quit, but supported to face life. How does this happen? We are just random people who landed in groups. But its like weÂ’ve been buds for years. We couldnÂ’t be any different. This addiction that made us all bitches, also makes us tight fighting for our freedom. KTC is an amazing tool, but itÂ’s the other addicts who stand with you that is the secret sauce here.

If you only know people here casually and only do your KTC duties, you are missing the boat. I’ve found a treasure here that goes well beyond ditching a rancid tin. Rather than defeated, bored and in-a-slump, I’m jazzed about these goofy people and deeply sincere about staying true to them. It’s a bright spot in the quit and in the midst of terribly bad days. I went from annoyed at all the texts all day, to finding myself always in touch with them and whats up in their world. This binds us. There’s no way I can face them with a fail – its now far too personal.

I love and thank my Circle Jerks, the June 2014 crew, and all the Turtles who blew up my phone the past 24 hours. I encourage you all to go get some of this, its everywhere. Enough serious talk for now.

Sounds like you are winning. Keep it up. We are here for ya.

We are here yes we are. Quit on

[Raider]

I started a new business about a year ago. And, its been a long hard year. Things are dire, probably going to lose it all, financially and professionally. IÂ’m tired, defeated, angry, doubting myself, my leadership, and fearing for my family. And then my quit stands there asking for 100% from me when thereÂ’s just nothing left. Each day lately, I force myself here and engage, but its like trying to make small talk while your house is on fire all around you. Feels kinda fake.

Yesterday was a really bad day dealing with all this. For some reason last night, I shot out a text to my group and opened up about this to them. I feared doing that, as it is so personal. After discussing why our name changed to “Circle Jerks”, it got serious. In seconds all of them were texting away about what’s going on, how to help, and just being there. They don’t know it, but half the time I sat there teared up reading their words of encouragement, concern, support and some inappropriate ghey offers. Then today, my old June gang shows up in force, text bombing me. I don’t even know how they found out. But it was awesome and powerful and humbling. They will never know what a pick-me-up that was. It’s hard to stay down when that many people are trying to lift your sorry ass up.

Last night, my quit evolved. It got real and personal. Things were said IÂ’d expect from life long friends. Today, I came in to work not only supported to quit, but supported to face life. How does this happen? We are just random people who landed in groups. But its like weÂ’ve been buds for years. We couldnÂ’t be any different. This addiction that made us all bitches, also makes us tight fighting for our freedom. KTC is an amazing tool, but itÂ’s the other addicts who stand with you that is the secret sauce here.

If you only know people here casually and only do your KTC duties, you are missing the boat. I’ve found a treasure here that goes well beyond ditching a rancid tin. Rather than defeated, bored and in-a-slump, I’m jazzed about these goofy people and deeply sincere about staying true to them. It’s a bright spot in the quit and in the midst of terribly bad days. I went from annoyed at all the texts all day, to finding myself always in touch with them and whats up in their world. This binds us. There’s no way I can face them with a fail – its now far too personal.

I love and thank my Circle Jerks, the June 2014 crew, and all the Turtles who blew up my phone the past 24 hours. I encourage you all to go get some of this, its everywhere. Enough serious talk for now.

Sounds like you are winning. Keep it up. We are here for ya.

[mark4]

I started a new business about a year ago. And, its been a long hard year. Things are dire, probably going to lose it all, financially and professionally. IÂ’m tired, defeated, angry, doubting myself, my leadership, and fearing for my family. And then my quit stands there asking for 100% from me when thereÂ’s just nothing left. Each day lately, I force myself here and engage, but its like trying to make small talk while your house is on fire all around you. Feels kinda fake.

Yesterday was a really bad day dealing with all this. For some reason last night, I shot out a text to my group and opened up about this to them. I feared doing that, as it is so personal. After discussing why our name changed to “Circle Jerks”, it got serious. In seconds all of them were texting away about what’s going on, how to help, and just being there. They don’t know it, but half the time I sat there teared up reading their words of encouragement, concern, support and some inappropriate ghey offers. Then today, my old June gang shows up in force, text bombing me. I don’t even know how they found out. But it was awesome and powerful and humbling. They will never know what a pick-me-up that was. It’s hard to stay down when that many people are trying to lift your sorry ass up.

Last night, my quit evolved. It got real and personal. Things were said IÂ’d expect from life long friends. Today, I came in to work not only supported to quit, but supported to face life. How does this happen? We are just random people who landed in groups. But its like weÂ’ve been buds for years. We couldnÂ’t be any different. This addiction that made us all bitches, also makes us tight fighting for our freedom. KTC is an amazing tool, but itÂ’s the other addicts who stand with you that is the secret sauce here.

If you only know people here casually and only do your KTC duties, you are missing the boat. I’ve found a treasure here that goes well beyond ditching a rancid tin. Rather than defeated, bored and in-a-slump, I’m jazzed about these goofy people and deeply sincere about staying true to them. It’s a bright spot in the quit and in the midst of terribly bad days. I went from annoyed at all the texts all day, to finding myself always in touch with them and whats up in their world. This binds us. There’s no way I can face them with a fail – its now far too personal.

I love and thank my Circle Jerks, the June 2014 crew, and all the Turtles who blew up my phone the past 24 hours. I encourage you all to go get some of this, its everywhere. Enough serious talk for now.

[Derk40]

It took 34 days, but I actually feel like the tables are turning and nic is realizing its now my bitch. Don't get me wrong, I've only progressed a tiny bit, but its the fact that I progressed at all that stokes me. How did I even get this far - oh yeah ODAAT. I won't lie and say its been pretty and theres been a LOT of times I had to be talked off the cliff. But my Quit - The NOUN is etched in stone on October 16. I just have to wake up every day and make sure I chose that outcome.

I'm no where near done with this war, and still a noob, but ya know what, TODAY i do celebrate those 34 days. I was dead-set on this when i came here, but in the back of my mind are all the doubts. But each plus one adds up. I'm jazzed for me, my family, and so thankful for the cast and crew of deliverance, otherwise known as my KTC Brothers. If we are like this in 34 days, imagine how it is at 100 or 1,000.

Proud of you my friend. A man of honor and integrity is being formed each and every day. A man that your wife and kids will get to have around and be proud of. And you get to feel it because you aren't mired in the lies of your addiction. The truth has set you free, now keep on walking in that truth and build it and protect it like a badass.

'oh yeah'
Like most things in life, if we determine to have a positive mental attitude ain't nothing gonna derail you!

Good stuff. Glimpses of total freedom are very motivational. Enjoy it! Remember that you only need to worry about today. Own the day! Keep it up!

[cbird65]

It took 34 days, but I actually feel like the tables are turning and nic is realizing its now my bitch. Don't get me wrong, I've only progressed a tiny bit, but its the fact that I progressed at all that stokes me. How did I even get this far - oh yeah ODAAT. I won't lie and say its been pretty and theres been a LOT of times I had to be talked off the cliff. But my Quit - The NOUN is etched in stone on October 16. I just have to wake up every day and make sure I chose that outcome.

I'm no where near done with this war, and still a noob, but ya know what, TODAY i do celebrate those 34 days. I was dead-set on this when i came here, but in the back of my mind are all the doubts. But each plus one adds up. I'm jazzed for me, my family, and so thankful for the cast and crew of deliverance, otherwise known as my KTC Brothers. If we are like this in 34 days, imagine how it is at 100 or 1,000.

Proud of you my friend. A man of honor and integrity is being formed each and every day. A man that your wife and kids will get to have around and be proud of. And you get to feel it because you aren't mired in the lies of your addiction. The truth has set you free, now keep on walking in that truth and build it and protect it like a badass.

'oh yeah'
Like most things in life, if we determine to have a positive mental attitude ain't nothing gonna derail you!

[bronc]

It took 34 days, but I actually feel like the tables are turning and nic is realizing its now my bitch. Don't get me wrong, I've only progressed a tiny bit, but its the fact that I progressed at all that stokes me. How did I even get this far - oh yeah ODAAT. I won't lie and say its been pretty and theres been a LOT of times I had to be talked off the cliff. But my Quit - The NOUN is etched in stone on October 16. I just have to wake up every day and make sure I chose that outcome.

I'm no where near done with this war, and still a noob, but ya know what, TODAY i do celebrate those 34 days. I was dead-set on this when i came here, but in the back of my mind are all the doubts. But each plus one adds up. I'm jazzed for me, my family, and so thankful for the cast and crew of deliverance, otherwise known as my KTC Brothers. If we are like this in 34 days, imagine how it is at 100 or 1,000.

Proud of you my friend. A man of honor and integrity is being formed each and every day. A man that your wife and kids will get to have around and be proud of. And you get to feel it because you aren't mired in the lies of your addiction. The truth has set you free, now keep on walking in that truth and build it and protect it like a badass.

[mark4]

It took 34 days, but I actually feel like the tables are turning and nic is realizing its now my bitch. Don't get me wrong, I've only progressed a tiny bit, but its the fact that I progressed at all that stokes me. How did I even get this far - oh yeah ODAAT. I won't lie and say its been pretty and theres been a LOT of times I had to be talked off the cliff. But my Quit - The NOUN is etched in stone on October 16. I just have to wake up every day and make sure I chose that outcome.

I'm no where near done with this war, and still a noob, but ya know what, TODAY i do celebrate those 34 days. I was dead-set on this when i came here, but in the back of my mind are all the doubts. But each plus one adds up. I'm jazzed for me, my family, and so thankful for the cast and crew of deliverance, otherwise known as my KTC Brothers. If we are like this in 34 days, imagine how it is at 100 or 1,000.

[Raider]

There are things I am avoiding as known triggers, one of them is the movies. Being a tiny ways into this, I went to the movies to see Intersteller this weekend. About 30 minutes into it, all the while continually amazed there was actual coke in my large cup, and not spit, I started feeling really weird. I guess you could call it a panic attack. Wasn't the usual symptoms, just like uneasy panic. I didn't know whether to leave or stay or scream. Rather frightening. I recalled reading that panic attacks may happen as your brain rewires and learns to deal with life without nic. I just kept telling my self that. But it hit me hard, I finally went to the bathroom, thinking I was about to puke. I missed about an hour of the movie by the time this all played out.

No great wisdom or learning came from this, just pissed and sad, that this bitch is still stealing things from me. I can't even go to a freakin movie thanks to nic. I don't say this defeated, it just pisses me off more that I am an addict. But I do know this was a small step to getting back to where I can go see a simple flick. I am forever amazed as I go through this, at what all nicotine has really stolen from my life.

Movies were always a big trigger for me, mainly due to any movie I have seen in the theater lately is a kids flick and I am ready to hang myself. But getting angry looks for moms as I packed a lipper and spit into a cup inches from little Suzie Loo-hoo are a thing of the past, and will be for you as well. You saw a movie and didn't chew, I call that a win!

Definitely a Win! Thumblewort called it correctly!
What ever it takes to "not" put the poison in our mouths.
Maybe treat yourself to some Milk Duds at the next flick. They stick to my teeth so bad I spend an hour prying them off. LOL
You got this Mark4.
ODAAT and NAFAR
We were not born with this in our mouths.
1 problem + nicotine = 2 problems

Glad to see you killing it this go around. Keep up the good work.

[30isEnuff]

There are things I am avoiding as known triggers, one of them is the movies. Being a tiny ways into this, I went to the movies to see Intersteller this weekend. About 30 minutes into it, all the while continually amazed there was actual coke in my large cup, and not spit, I started feeling really weird. I guess you could call it a panic attack. Wasn't the usual symptoms, just like uneasy panic. I didn't know whether to leave or stay or scream. Rather frightening. I recalled reading that panic attacks may happen as your brain rewires and learns to deal with life without nic. I just kept telling my self that. But it hit me hard, I finally went to the bathroom, thinking I was about to puke. I missed about an hour of the movie by the time this all played out.

No great wisdom or learning came from this, just pissed and sad, that this bitch is still stealing things from me. I can't even go to a freakin movie thanks to nic. I don't say this defeated, it just pisses me off more that I am an addict. But I do know this was a small step to getting back to where I can go see a simple flick. I am forever amazed as I go through this, at what all nicotine has really stolen from my life.

Movies were always a big trigger for me, mainly due to any movie I have seen in the theater lately is a kids flick and I am ready to hang myself. But getting angry looks for moms as I packed a lipper and spit into a cup inches from little Suzie Loo-hoo are a thing of the past, and will be for you as well. You saw a movie and didn't chew, I call that a win!

Definitely a Win! Thumblewort called it correctly!
What ever it takes to "not" put the poison in our mouths.
Maybe treat yourself to some Milk Duds at the next flick. They stick to my teeth so bad I spend an hour prying them off. LOL
You got this Mark4.
ODAAT and NAFAR
We were not born with this in our mouths.
1 problem + nicotine = 2 problems

[Thumblewort]

There are things I am avoiding as known triggers, one of them is the movies. Being a tiny ways into this, I went to the movies to see Intersteller this weekend. About 30 minutes into it, all the while continually amazed there was actual coke in my large cup, and not spit, I started feeling really weird. I guess you could call it a panic attack. Wasn't the usual symptoms, just like uneasy panic. I didn't know whether to leave or stay or scream. Rather frightening. I recalled reading that panic attacks may happen as your brain rewires and learns to deal with life without nic. I just kept telling my self that. But it hit me hard, I finally went to the bathroom, thinking I was about to puke. I missed about an hour of the movie by the time this all played out.

No great wisdom or learning came from this, just pissed and sad, that this bitch is still stealing things from me. I can't even go to a freakin movie thanks to nic. I don't say this defeated, it just pisses me off more that I am an addict. But I do know this was a small step to getting back to where I can go see a simple flick. I am forever amazed as I go through this, at what all nicotine has really stolen from my life.

Movies were always a big trigger for me, mainly due to any movie I have seen in the theater lately is a kids flick and I am ready to hang myself. But getting angry looks for moms as I packed a lipper and spit into a cup inches from little Suzie Loo-hoo are a thing of the past, and will be for you as well. You saw a movie and didn't chew, I call that a win!

[mark4]

There are things I am avoiding as known triggers, one of them is the movies. Being a tiny ways into this, I went to the movies to see Intersteller this weekend. About 30 minutes into it, all the while continually amazed there was actual coke in my large cup, and not spit, I started feeling really weird. I guess you could call it a panic attack. Wasn't the usual symptoms, just like uneasy panic. I didn't know whether to leave or stay or scream. Rather frightening. I recalled reading that panic attacks may happen as your brain rewires and learns to deal with life without nic. I just kept telling my self that. But it hit me hard, I finally went to the bathroom, thinking I was about to puke. I missed about an hour of the movie by the time this all played out.

No great wisdom or learning came from this, just pissed and sad, that this bitch is still stealing things from me. I can't even go to a freakin movie thanks to nic. I don't say this defeated, it just pisses me off more that I am an addict. But I do know this was a small step to getting back to where I can go see a simple flick. I am forever amazed as I go through this, at what all nicotine has really stolen from my life.

[mark4]

Marky mark! How's the quit hangin? Man, when you need to talk and chat is dead, don't hesitate to ping your brothers via text. It works. It helps. It's why you have our numbers. Be good and kick ass! Proud of you.

Well, up and down, past few days were good, then this weekend sucked. Oh I do text, but there is something about sitting in chat with Okie and Jeep and far too many homosexual references that just kills time.

but thanks bro, proud to be quit with you.

chat is about one of the most underrated tools we have on here. Sitting there making ghey insinuations with a bunch of dudes you don't know is some kind of fantastic nic quit therapy. I know I camped out there for about the first 60 days of my quit non-stop. I felt fortunate because I got to meet up with a whole bunch of old timers on there and they got me to post on their pages....even when I was just a couple weeks into my quit. It helped me broaden my quitwork to more than just our June group. You're doing awesome Mark. Keep it up. Ping Nate would ya? Nate Mcpherson. He's a real good dude.

There are things I am avoiding as known triggers, one of them is the movies. Being a tiny ways into this, I went to the movies to see Intersteller this weekend. About 30 minutes into it, all the while continually amazed there was actual coke in my large cup, and not spit, I started feeling really weird. I guess you could call it a panic attack. Wasn't the usual symptoms, just like uneasy panic. I didn't know whether to leave or stay or scream. Rather frightening. I recalled reading that panic attacks may happen as your brain rewires and learns to deal with life without nic. I just kept telling my self that. But it hit me hard, I finally went to the bathroom, thinking I was about to puke. I missed about an hour of the movie by the time this all played out.

No great wisdom or learning came from this, just pissed and sad, that this bitch is still stealing things from me. I can't even go to a freakin movie thanks to nic. I don't say this defeated, it just pisses me off more that I am an addict. But I do know this was a small step to getting back to where I can go see a simple flick. I am forever amazed as I go through this, at what all nicotine has really stolen from my life.

[bronc]

Marky mark! How's the quit hangin? Man, when you need to talk and chat is dead, don't hesitate to ping your brothers via text. It works. It helps. It's why you have our numbers. Be good and kick ass! Proud of you.

Well, up and down, past few days were good, then this weekend sucked. Oh I do text, but there is something about sitting in chat with Okie and Jeep and far too many homosexual references that just kills time.

but thanks bro, proud to be quit with you.

chat is about one of the most underrated tools we have on here. Sitting there making ghey insinuations with a bunch of dudes you don't know is some kind of fantastic nic quit therapy. I know I camped out there for about the first 60 days of my quit non-stop. I felt fortunate because I got to meet up with a whole bunch of old timers on there and they got me to post on their pages....even when I was just a couple weeks into my quit. It helped me broaden my quitwork to more than just our June group. You're doing awesome Mark. Keep it up. Ping Nate would ya? Nate Mcpherson. He's a real good dude.