Introduction

[worktowin]

What a great day to be quit. 282 I think?

Last week I took my first hunting trip without the poison. The car ride played some mind games on me, but I used the tools. I chatted with quitters almost all the way from Detroit, MI to Madison, IN. Once I got there I went into hunt mode. Guess what? You can shoot a bow without dip, you can put up tree stands without dip, you can kill deer without dip. How could I have been so worried about a real non issue. What a dumb ass. I stressed about that trip for weeks. Had a terrible dip dream the night before I left. Oh well, now I know. Hunting had nothing to do with dip. NOTHING!!

Gorgeous fall day here in southern Michigan. Spent the day at the cider mill with wife and kids. Tractor ride, fall colors, apple cider, donuts, picking pumpkins, etc. Not once did I think about dip. Not once. It is amazing that our bodies and minds can really heal over time.

I remember avoiding this outing in the past. I would instead choose to sit home and dip by myself and let my wife take the kids without me. I was "too busy". House work, yard work, whatever the excuse of the day was. What a shit head I was, I had no idea what I was missing.

New quitters, you may not see it yet, but quitting can be done. And it is so worth it. It will get easier. You have to fight through it. Quit today, focus on today. One day at a time.

Had anyone told us, and they did, 282 days ago how we would feel and how much better life would be now, we wouldn't have believed them. We didn't believe them.

Now we are the ones that are laughing. Enjoy the cider! Proud to be quit with you again today.

[Its_Got2Happen]

What a great day to be quit. 282 I think?

Last week I took my first hunting trip without the poison. The car ride played some mind games on me, but I used the tools. I chatted with quitters almost all the way from Detroit, MI to Madison, IN. Once I got there I went into hunt mode. Guess what? You can shoot a bow without dip, you can put up tree stands without dip, you can kill deer without dip. How could I have been so worried about a real non issue. What a dumb ass. I stressed about that trip for weeks. Had a terrible dip dream the night before I left. Oh well, now I know. Hunting had nothing to do with dip. NOTHING!!

Gorgeous fall day here in southern Michigan. Spent the day at the cider mill with wife and kids. Tractor ride, fall colors, apple cider, donuts, picking pumpkins, etc. Not once did I think about dip. Not once. It is amazing that our bodies and minds can really heal over time.

I remember avoiding this outing in the past. I would instead choose to sit home and dip by myself and let my wife take the kids without me. I was "too busy". House work, yard work, whatever the excuse of the day was. What a shit head I was, I had no idea what I was missing.

New quitters, you may not see it yet, but quitting can be done. And it is so worth it. It will get easier. You have to fight through it. Quit today, focus on today. One day at a time.

[worktowin]

Question. 

When you see people smoking or dipping, do you wonder about them?  Have they ever tried to quit?  Do they want to quit?  Do they know what they are doing to themselves?  I watched a guy at Costco today purchase 2 logs of Grizzly wintergreen.  I couldn't help but wonder how long it would take him to go through that volume.  A week?  A month?  Should I say something to him?

I remember early on in my quit I had envy for them.  My oh my, how much has changed in 250 days.  When I look at them now I am filled with sadness and pity.  They are not using nicotine because they WANT to, they are using nicotine because they HAVE to.  Or at least they think they do.  If they only knew the truth.  Addiction is a nasty beast.

I remember both of those feelings.  "I dip because I WANT to, I LIKE it"  Then one day I realized that, I NEED dip just to feel normal, I CANNOT stop.  Everytime I tried to quit it was so hard.  I just couldn't get it done.  Life felt miserable without dip, I would always cave a week or 10 days into it.  It seemed so hopeless.  Every failed "attempt" seemed to lend even more power to the addiction.

250 days ago I stumbled onto this site and began to learn the truth.  I do not want nicotine.  I do not need nicotine.  This can be done.  I am capable. I will not die without nicotine.  Just the opposite in fact.  I began to learn that maybe just maybe, after the misery of quitting was over, life might even be better without nicotine.  Guys like deisel, wastepanel, skoalmonster and others told be it would get better.  They helped me by sharing their knowledge and experience. 

They were so right.  I am so glad that I stuck it out.  I am so relieved to no longer be a user.  Freedom is so much better.  I am happy that I understand I am an addict.  I have the tools that I need to stay quit.  I know I can never have just one.  I am grateful for the friends I have made on here.  I hope that everyone with my number knows they can call or text anytime.

If you are new to this quitting thing, give it time.  Your wounds will heal.  You will learn how to live again.  I will get so much easier.  I promise, you'll see.

Proud to be quit with you all today.

you have a very nice quit going on there buddy. i too wondered about reaching out to those who still use. it's a fine line. i'm sure one of them would tell me to mind my own business. this is why i choose to help people that want help. that's why i'm here. proud to be quit with you! peace

I hear you kana. I am torn on the subject. On one hand, I wish someone had told me years ago. On the other hand, even if they had I probably would have told them to fuck off. I think the quitter has to be ready to some degree. Deep down inside, they know. Even the most casual of users know.

I remember being 16 and being pissed at myself for buying another can. I knew what I was wrestling with. I would throw a nearly full can out the window of my 1985 Mustang GT, and swear that I was done for good. Only to drive back there the next day and be searching for it. Pathetic. Down right pathetic. To have been a slave for decades. Thank God I have found freedom from it. Now, I can only hope and pray that I have not killed myself. Only time will tell. It will be a decade before my risk of cancer approaches that of a non-user.

I cannot change the past. There is no use in dwelling on it. Time to move forward and embrace this new found freedom. I will focus only on what I can control. I can only control only the here and now. Today I choose quit.

By the way Kana, congrats on 400, you are the man. You have been on my intro page since my day 1, and for that I am grateful. Thanks for taking the time.

approach them the worst they can do is tell you fuck off. I tried telling a guy I work with about the site when he was trying to cut back he was like I will just cut back. cant save everyone. I find it easier to work here with guys who come here atleast they have taken the first step.

Remember my airplane story? I talked for an hour and a half to the guy suiting next to me on a flight to Denver. A young lawyer, maybe 28. He reminded me of me 13 years ago. When the cabin doors opened, he got off that plane faster than a concorde takeoff. I don't blame him, I would have done that same thing at 28. But it did make me feel better.

[traumagnet]

Question. 

When you see people smoking or dipping, do you wonder about them?  Have they ever tried to quit?  Do they want to quit?  Do they know what they are doing to themselves?  I watched a guy at Costco today purchase 2 logs of Grizzly wintergreen.  I couldn't help but wonder how long it would take him to go through that volume.  A week?  A month?  Should I say something to him?

I remember early on in my quit I had envy for them.  My oh my, how much has changed in 250 days.  When I look at them now I am filled with sadness and pity.  They are not using nicotine because they WANT to, they are using nicotine because they HAVE to.  Or at least they think they do.  If they only knew the truth.  Addiction is a nasty beast.

I remember both of those feelings.  "I dip because I WANT to, I LIKE it"  Then one day I realized that, I NEED dip just to feel normal, I CANNOT stop.  Everytime I tried to quit it was so hard.  I just couldn't get it done.  Life felt miserable without dip, I would always cave a week or 10 days into it.  It seemed so hopeless.  Every failed "attempt" seemed to lend even more power to the addiction.

250 days ago I stumbled onto this site and began to learn the truth.  I do not want nicotine.  I do not need nicotine.  This can be done.  I am capable. I will not die without nicotine.  Just the opposite in fact.  I began to learn that maybe just maybe, after the misery of quitting was over, life might even be better without nicotine.  Guys like deisel, wastepanel, skoalmonster and others told be it would get better.  They helped me by sharing their knowledge and experience. 

They were so right.  I am so glad that I stuck it out.  I am so relieved to no longer be a user.  Freedom is so much better.  I am happy that I understand I am an addict.  I have the tools that I need to stay quit.  I know I can never have just one.  I am grateful for the friends I have made on here.  I hope that everyone with my number knows they can call or text anytime.

If you are new to this quitting thing, give it time.  Your wounds will heal.  You will learn how to live again.  I will get so much easier.  I promise, you'll see.

Proud to be quit with you all today.

you have a very nice quit going on there buddy. i too wondered about reaching out to those who still use. it's a fine line. i'm sure one of them would tell me to mind my own business. this is why i choose to help people that want help. that's why i'm here. proud to be quit with you! peace

I hear you kana. I am torn on the subject. On one hand, I wish someone had told me years ago. On the other hand, even if they had I probably would have told them to fuck off. I think the quitter has to be ready to some degree. Deep down inside, they know. Even the most casual of users know.

I remember being 16 and being pissed at myself for buying another can. I knew what I was wrestling with. I would throw a nearly full can out the window of my 1985 Mustang GT, and swear that I was done for good. Only to drive back there the next day and be searching for it. Pathetic. Down right pathetic. To have been a slave for decades. Thank God I have found freedom from it. Now, I can only hope and pray that I have not killed myself. Only time will tell. It will be a decade before my risk of cancer approaches that of a non-user.

I cannot change the past. There is no use in dwelling on it. Time to move forward and embrace this new found freedom. I will focus only on what I can control. I can only control only the here and now. Today I choose quit.

By the way Kana, congrats on 400, you are the man. You have been on my intro page since my day 1, and for that I am grateful. Thanks for taking the time.

approach them the worst they can do is tell you fuck off. I tried telling a guy I work with about the site when he was trying to cut back he was like I will just cut back. cant save everyone. I find it easier to work here with guys who come here atleast they have taken the first step.

[Its_Got2Happen]

Question. 

When you see people smoking or dipping, do you wonder about them?  Have they ever tried to quit?  Do they want to quit?  Do they know what they are doing to themselves?  I watched a guy at Costco today purchase 2 logs of Grizzly wintergreen.  I couldn't help but wonder how long it would take him to go through that volume.  A week?  A month?  Should I say something to him?

I remember early on in my quit I had envy for them.  My oh my, how much has changed in 250 days.  When I look at them now I am filled with sadness and pity.  They are not using nicotine because they WANT to, they are using nicotine because they HAVE to.  Or at least they think they do.  If they only knew the truth.  Addiction is a nasty beast.

I remember both of those feelings.  "I dip because I WANT to, I LIKE it"  Then one day I realized that, I NEED dip just to feel normal, I CANNOT stop.  Everytime I tried to quit it was so hard.  I just couldn't get it done.  Life felt miserable without dip, I would always cave a week or 10 days into it.  It seemed so hopeless.  Every failed "attempt" seemed to lend even more power to the addiction.

250 days ago I stumbled onto this site and began to learn the truth.  I do not want nicotine.  I do not need nicotine.  This can be done.  I am capable. I will not die without nicotine.  Just the opposite in fact.  I began to learn that maybe just maybe, after the misery of quitting was over, life might even be better without nicotine.  Guys like deisel, wastepanel, skoalmonster and others told be it would get better.  They helped me by sharing their knowledge and experience. 

They were so right.  I am so glad that I stuck it out.  I am so relieved to no longer be a user.  Freedom is so much better.  I am happy that I understand I am an addict.  I have the tools that I need to stay quit.  I know I can never have just one.  I am grateful for the friends I have made on here.  I hope that everyone with my number knows they can call or text anytime.

If you are new to this quitting thing, give it time.  Your wounds will heal.  You will learn how to live again.  I will get so much easier.  I promise, you'll see.

Proud to be quit with you all today.

you have a very nice quit going on there buddy. i too wondered about reaching out to those who still use. it's a fine line. i'm sure one of them would tell me to mind my own business. this is why i choose to help people that want help. that's why i'm here. proud to be quit with you! peace

I hear you kana. I am torn on the subject. On one hand, I wish someone had told me years ago. On the other hand, even if they had I probably would have told them to fuck off. I think the quitter has to be ready to some degree. Deep down inside, they know. Even the most casual of users know.

I remember being 16 and being pissed at myself for buying another can. I knew what I was wrestling with. I would throw a nearly full can out the window of my 1985 Mustang GT, and swear that I was done for good. Only to drive back there the next day and be searching for it. Pathetic. Down right pathetic. To have been a slave for decades. Thank God I have found freedom from it. Now, I can only hope and pray that I have not killed myself. Only time will tell. It will be a decade before my risk of cancer approaches that of a non-user.

I cannot change the past. There is no use in dwelling on it. Time to move forward and embrace this new found freedom. I will focus only on what I can control. I can only control only the here and now. Today I choose quit.

By the way Kana, congrats on 400, you are the man. You have been on my intro page since my day 1, and for that I am grateful. Thanks for taking the time.

[kana]

Question.

When you see people smoking or dipping, do you wonder about them? Have they ever tried to quit? Do they want to quit? Do they know what they are doing to themselves? I watched a guy at Costco today purchase 2 logs of Grizzly wintergreen. I couldn't help but wonder how long it would take him to go through that volume. A week? A month? Should I say something to him?

I remember early on in my quit I had envy for them. My oh my, how much has changed in 250 days. When I look at them now I am filled with sadness and pity. They are not using nicotine because they WANT to, they are using nicotine because they HAVE to. Or at least they think they do. If they only knew the truth. Addiction is a nasty beast.

I remember both of those feelings. "I dip because I WANT to, I LIKE it" Then one day I realized that, I NEED dip just to feel normal, I CANNOT stop. Everytime I tried to quit it was so hard. I just couldn't get it done. Life felt miserable without dip, I would always cave a week or 10 days into it. It seemed so hopeless. Every failed "attempt" seemed to lend even more power to the addiction.

250 days ago I stumbled onto this site and began to learn the truth. I do not want nicotine. I do not need nicotine. This can be done. I am capable. I will not die without nicotine. Just the opposite in fact. I began to learn that maybe just maybe, after the misery of quitting was over, life might even be better without nicotine. Guys like deisel, wastepanel, skoalmonster and others told be it would get better. They helped me by sharing their knowledge and experience.

They were so right. I am so glad that I stuck it out. I am so relieved to no longer be a user. Freedom is so much better. I am happy that I understand I am an addict. I have the tools that I need to stay quit. I know I can never have just one. I am grateful for the friends I have made on here. I hope that everyone with my number knows they can call or text anytime.

If you are new to this quitting thing, give it time. Your wounds will heal. You will learn how to live again. I will get so much easier. I promise, you'll see.

Proud to be quit with you all today.

you have a very nice quit going on there buddy. i too wondered about reaching out to those who still use. it's a fine line. i'm sure one of them would tell me to mind my own business. this is why i choose to help people that want help. that's why i'm here. proud to be quit with you! peace

[SamCat!!!]

Great meeting you tonight in Chat...I hope to see you back in there soon!!! I went and copied that post for you that I was talking about written by Skoal Monster...Pass this Gem along to everyone...It sure helped me!!!

index.php?showtopic=2628

Proud to be Quit with you today!!! Lets repeat tomorrow!!!

:) Sam!!!

[Its_Got2Happen]

Question.

When you see people smoking or dipping, do you wonder about them? Have they ever tried to quit? Do they want to quit? Do they know what they are doing to themselves? I watched a guy at Costco today purchase 2 logs of Grizzly wintergreen. I couldn't help but wonder how long it would take him to go through that volume. A week? A month? Should I say something to him?

I remember early on in my quit I had envy for them. My oh my, how much has changed in 250 days. When I look at them now I am filled with sadness and pity. They are not using nicotine because they WANT to, they are using nicotine because they HAVE to. Or at least they think they do. If they only knew the truth. Addiction is a nasty beast.

I remember both of those feelings. "I dip because I WANT to, I LIKE it" Then one day I realized that, I NEED dip just to feel normal, I CANNOT stop. Everytime I tried to quit it was so hard. I just couldn't get it done. Life felt miserable without dip, I would always cave a week or 10 days into it. It seemed so hopeless. Every failed "attempt" seemed to lend even more power to the addiction.

250 days ago I stumbled onto this site and began to learn the truth. I do not want nicotine. I do not need nicotine. This can be done. I am capable. I will not die without nicotine. Just the opposite in fact. I began to learn that maybe just maybe, after the misery of quitting was over, life might even be better without nicotine. Guys like deisel, wastepanel, skoalmonster and others told be it would get better. They helped me by sharing their knowledge and experience.

They were so right. I am so glad that I stuck it out. I am so relieved to no longer be a user. Freedom is so much better. I am happy that I understand I am an addict. I have the tools that I need to stay quit. I know I can never have just one. I am grateful for the friends I have made on here. I hope that everyone with my number knows they can call or text anytime.

If you are new to this quitting thing, give it time. Your wounds will heal. You will learn how to live again. I will get so much easier. I promise, you'll see.

Proud to be quit with you all today.

[kana]

When I was a dipper my kids got a shitty bedtime routine.  Quick book, quick song and bed.  So dad could have his dip.

Fuck that, no more.  Today my beautiful daughter got 5 books and I dont know how many songs.  I no longer have somewhere better to be.  I am where I am and that where I want to be.

I love being quit.

Awesome Ryan...sometimes the simplest thing become Amazing!!

Eyes wide Open brother...

QLF with you today!!!!

well that one hit home... not that book get the two page book and we are gonna do some speed metal songs and off to bed you go.... proud of you man making the realization. keep quit brother

Good stuff ryan. I'm noticing the same things. I notice i'm not in a hurry as much. I've slowed down,, smelling the roses. Darn glad to be quit with you brother.

absolutely spot on.. the best things in life are free.. time with your child is one of them. We're so blessed to have found the proper path. so proud of you brother.

[srans]

When I was a dipper my kids got a shitty bedtime routine.  Quick book, quick song and bed.  So dad could have his dip.

Fuck that, no more.  Today my beautiful daughter got 5 books and I dont know how many songs.  I no longer have somewhere better to be.  I am where I am and that where I want to be.

I love being quit.

Awesome Ryan...sometimes the simplest thing become Amazing!!

Eyes wide Open brother...

QLF with you today!!!!

well that one hit home... not that book get the two page book and we are gonna do some speed metal songs and off to bed you go.... proud of you man making the realization. keep quit brother

Good stuff ryan. I'm noticing the same things. I notice i'm not in a hurry as much. I've slowed down,, smelling the roses. Darn glad to be quit with you brother.

[traumagnet]

When I was a dipper my kids got a shitty bedtime routine.  Quick book, quick song and bed.  So dad could have his dip.

Fuck that, no more.  Today my beautiful daughter got 5 books and I dont know how many songs.  I no longer have somewhere better to be.  I am where I am and that where I want to be.

I love being quit.

Awesome Ryan...sometimes the simplest thing become Amazing!!

Eyes wide Open brother...

QLF with you today!!!!

well that one hit home... not that book get the two page book and we are gonna do some speed metal songs and off to bed you go.... proud of you man making the realization. keep quit brother

[jaynellie]

When I was a dipper my kids got a shitty bedtime routine. Quick book, quick song and bed. So dad could have his dip.

Fuck that, no more. Today my beautiful daughter got 5 books and I dont know how many songs. I no longer have somewhere better to be. I am where I am and that where I want to be.

I love being quit.

Awesome Ryan...sometimes the simplest thing become Amazing!!

Eyes wide Open brother...

QLF with you today!!!!

[Its_Got2Happen]

When I was a dipper my kids got a shitty bedtime routine. Quick book, quick song and bed. So dad could have his dip.

Fuck that, no more. Today my beautiful daughter got 5 books and I dont know how many songs. I no longer have somewhere better to be. I am where I am and that's where I want to be.

I love being quit.

[traumagnet]

I like that mow through triggers I am gonna start pushing myself to mow thru triggers. N Jake will get you a deal on a pink avalanche

[worktowin]

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Just finished the single shittiest work day in my adult life.  14 hours of pure can go wrong did go wrong bullshit.  At every turn the day got worse, almost comically on some level. 

It occurred to me when I finally got in my truck and began to proceed home.  Not once did I think about the poison.  It never ever crossed my mind for even one fleeting second.  A few months ago, dip would have dominated my every thought on a day like today. 

Now on my drive home that was another story.......................Again as I have said before, my rationale mind thought and knew, dip couldnt possibly do anything to make this shitty day better.  But dammit if my addict mind didnt try to execute its will.  Couldnt help but think over and over how great it would be to have a dip right now.  Oh the blasted addict mind, thank God it is no longer in control of my behavior.  I guess it is good to know and remember that the bitch will still try to sneak in.  Constantly prowling, ready to devour, looking for the smallest chink in our armor to exploit. 

Make a decision, post roll, keep your guard up.  Focus, focus, focus.  It has gotten so much easier.  Newbies, keep the faith.  Learn the program, use the tools.  This can be done.  It is so worth it.

Preach it brother! Keep the fucking faith.

I know I texted this to you but decided to memorialize this of your thread - I believe the solution to this is a new vehicle. You've mentioned several times that your truck is a trigger. The trigger. Trade that Ford in!!!!

I here ya worktowin. Drove the last F-150 for 300,000 miles. I just cant let go of the old 2008 yet, it only has 90,000 on it. I drive them until the wheels fall off. And besides I finally scrubbed all of the spilled dip scum out of the carpet and seats. This baby is showroom detailed.

Fuck triggers, I do not "avoid" them anymore, I mow that fuggers right over.

Quit on boys and girls, I am gonna. On the good days and the bad days. UUUUHHMMMM, get some!!

Jake Frawley will make you a hell of a deal if you change your mind. After his way too vivid post today of a cave dip dream - where he almost gave me a stroke as I was reading it - I bet we could get him to knock off a few grand more.

Keep up the great work Ryan. The bad days now are still 100x better than the good days in January.