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CTF

Quote from: MuleMan on October 22, 2020, 09:00:45 PM
I forgot this thread was out there. Amazing to re read this all. Means so much as I approach my one year anniversary.
'CJ'

Good for you! Well done!


MuleMan

I forgot this thread was out there. Amazing to re read this all. Means so much as I approach my one year anniversary.
'CJ'
MuleMan
Cause I Kill the Can

MuleMan

Quote from: 69franx on October 22, 2020, 05:51:07 PM
Quote from: Keith0617 on October 22, 2020, 09:01:37 AM
Quote from: Thefranks5 on October 22, 2020, 07:48:35 AM
Congrats @MuleMan on hitting 3rd floor my friend. Not quite to the ladies underwear but your darn close, lol.  'party' 'chew2'.  You deserve it brother.
Congrats on 300 brother. Keep doing the great work you are doing.
Congrats brother. Keep up the good work. Stay strong, stay quit
omg I saw this late sorry guys - thanks Doug!!  PTBQWY all!
MuleMan
Cause I Kill the Can

69franx

Quote from: Keith0617 on October 22, 2020, 09:01:37 AM
Quote from: Thefranks5 on October 22, 2020, 07:48:35 AM
Congrats @MuleMan on hitting 3rd floor my friend. Not quite to the ladies underwear but your darn close, lol.  'party' 'chew2'.  You deserve it brother.
Congrats on 300 brother. Keep doing the great work you are doing.
Congrats brother. Keep up the good work. Stay strong, stay quit
ABQ= Always Be Quitting

My Intro
My HOF Speech
How long have I been quit?


I brew the beer I drink, what's your superpower?


[spoiler=These are a few of my favorite KTC quotes:]

"I need to move forward. This is different from move on. Do not confuse someones willingness to move forward with their willingness to move on. I am not moving on or giving up, I just have to move forward." Candoit

"I will light my money on fire before I give one more cent to those death dealers." Greg5280

"Half assed posters are doomed to failure" TheWolfe

"Unless you are dead, there is no excuse to miss roll" TheWolfe


"This seems to be working, why change anything?" Zeno

Skoal Monster[/spoiler]

[spoiler=Quitters I am damn proud to have met:] Pumpkinboy, ReWire, Miker0351, Swilson, Capital70, Jedi1991, McDave, Wiesman71, Broccoli-Saurus, Clemte, ClevelandFan, Chewie, BillW21, CLEalt, Fishflorida, CopeQuits, Candoit, TexasChief, Bug Guy, Razd611,BgbdBrd, Cbird65, Croakenhagen,  BrianG, OutDoorTexan,  Gregor.[/spoiler]

HOF: 11/08/17     2nd Floor: 02/16/18     3rd Floor: 05/27/18     1st trip around the sun: 07/31/18     4th Floor: 09/04/18     5th floor: 12/13/18     6th floor: 03/23/2019     7th floor: 07/01/19     2nd trip around the sun: 07/31/19     8th floor: 10/09/19     9th floor: 01/17/20     Comma Day: 04/26/2020     3rd trip around the sun: 08/01/2020     11th floor: 08/04/2020     12th Floor: 11/12/2020     13th floor: 02/20/2021     14th floor: 05/31/2021

Keith0617

Quote from: Thefranks5 on October 22, 2020, 07:48:35 AM
Congrats @MuleMan on hitting 3rd floor my friend. Not quite to the ladies underwear but your darn close, lol.  'party' 'chew2'.  You deserve it brother.
Congrats on 300 brother. Keep doing the great work you are doing.
Jan19

Thefranks5

Congrats @MuleMan on hitting 3rd floor my friend. Not quite to the ladies underwear but your darn close, lol.  'party' 'chew2'.  You deserve it brother.

Bug Guy

Do you and would you have the ability to help out with the SSOA/ tracking down the missing/ and/or roll flipping duties in your April 2020 quit group? Any help at all is much appreciated and goes along way when it comes to Brotherhood + Accountability. Thanks in advance!
[spoiler=Random Quotes]"The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his."
- General George S. Patton

SDMF- Strength Determination Merciless Forever
GIFD- Get It Fucking Done

-Zakk Wylde

Take what you need and give your best.[/spoiler]

INTRO | HOF SPEECH | HOF WRITEUP
QUIT 1/4/19 HOF 4/13/19 2ND FLOOR 7/22/19 3RD FLOOR 10/30/19 4TH FLOOR 2/7/20 5TH FLOOR 5/17/20 6TH FLOOR 8/25/20 7TH FLOOR 12/3/20 8TH FLOOR 3/13/21 9TH FLOOR 6/21/21 DANGLE FLOOR 9/29/21 11TH FLOOR 1/7/22 12TH FLOOR 4/17/22

kodiakdeath

Congrats on 3 weeks MuleMan!  You are kicking ass, and doing the right things by staying active on the forum and getting digits.
Don't get discouraged if you have some up and down days.  Quitting nicotine can be like a rollercoaster, especially the first weeks.  As BugGuy said it does get so much better.
Proud to quit with you!
Intro     HOF speech
You gotta start somewhere, glad you started here with us! - Athan, March 10, 2018
Quitters I've had the honor to meet: rogerpersson, bigrick_2u, MattyB, skolvikings, SRains918, gottadoit, BluManChew, jp3, JohnSmallberries, arrakisdq, Keith0657, Rich1985, CDA-rj, Peter Gibbons, Doc Petey, Athan

Bug Guy

Glad to have you in the best quit month ever! You're off to a great start, just keep pushing through. It gets better, so much better. Be sure to give me a shout if you need anything
-Steve
[spoiler=Random Quotes]"The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his."
- General George S. Patton

SDMF- Strength Determination Merciless Forever
GIFD- Get It Fucking Done

-Zakk Wylde

Take what you need and give your best.[/spoiler]

INTRO | HOF SPEECH | HOF WRITEUP
QUIT 1/4/19 HOF 4/13/19 2ND FLOOR 7/22/19 3RD FLOOR 10/30/19 4TH FLOOR 2/7/20 5TH FLOOR 5/17/20 6TH FLOOR 8/25/20 7TH FLOOR 12/3/20 8TH FLOOR 3/13/21 9TH FLOOR 6/21/21 DANGLE FLOOR 9/29/21 11TH FLOOR 1/7/22 12TH FLOOR 4/17/22

BluManChew

Quote from: BluManChew on January 01, 2020, 12:21:28 AM
Quote from: olcpo on December 31, 2019, 12:18:09 PM
Quote from: MuleMan on December 31, 2019, 06:50:01 AM
Quote from: olcpo on December 30, 2019, 08:00:28 PM
Quote from: MuleMan on December 29, 2019, 07:42:14 PM
Thanks Cspence.  I may take you up on your offer. No concern at the moment that I'll give up

I'm 42 hours into my quit and today was def harder than day 1.  I'm silently raging mad at myself all day and having outbursts toward family for minor annoyances. I'm starting to see the haze/fog others have talked about too. I feel like I can resist the cravings; just want the rage and emotions to lift and become more controllable. I have much to accomplish this week outside of my quit (I can see now that's in jeopardy); my quit seems most important to me.  not going back, just want this over.

Hi @MuleMan, I am 35 days into my quit. Still learning daily. Rage was my biggest obstacle. The first week was the worst. « Reply #16 on: December 02, 2019, 07:50:38 PM » in Olcpo Introduction "Day one" pages 4-5. This one was the peak, it got better fast after this. I have tried to blog every day, what I felt and what was new. Mostly to remind me of what I went through so I don't go back. I am sharing this spot on the site not so you can read about me, but so you can read the great advice I got from the vets on how they managed the rage and stress.

You are right that your quit is the most important right now. Honesty with my family as to what I was/am feeling and saying I'm sorry a lot. For me, prayer was/is essential. I have to give it to God, I cannot do it myself. Each instance feeling the anger/rage starting, learning what it fees like before I am in it, heading it off before it erupts. Walking away from situations, take a deep breath and a drink of water, pause for a moment, then go back and finish. One Minute At A Time = OMAAT One Second... One DayAAT Whatever it takes.

It does get better. It is a roller coaster. a few good days/hours and then "where did this come from" One hour at a time. I have to focus on the good minutes hours days. Now they really outnumber the bad and pretty much since week 2. Going back is not an option. I haven't called anyone yet. I should and will if for no other reason than to establish communication and Thank them for caring about me and my quit. I have their numbers (digits) programmed in my phone (which I rarely use because it doesn't work well where I live) in case I need to call them. If you want my digits or anything else, PM me and I will be glad to share mine. Your quit is a lot like a Mule, learn to read it like you do a mule.
@olcpo

Thanks olcpo - I read this closely- makes a lot of sense. Glad to hear of your quit and progress. Excited to reach Day 30; feels a long way off. This community has been a real blessing. God Bless you!
MuleMan

You've got this. The nicotine is about gone from your system. Now the games begin. Take it easy on yourself, if you can, choose low/no stress. Drink lots of water, flush the crap out of your system. Staying busy and working hard so I am physically tired really helped me, still is. One of the vets here shared, "You can't control what life or the world brings you, but you can control what you put in your mouth. Chew NEVER fixed anything (problem + chew = 2 problems)."

The days will go by fast as you observe the changes you are going through. The fog will go away. My forehead was tight, almost a headache, for a week. I cut my coffee back to about half for a few weeks. Without the nicotine and all the other crap the caffeine was stronger. I had trouble concentrating, mind seemed scattered, everything seemed intense. The only thing that helped was a change of location and what I was doing. This was the first week and then I noticed when it came on it went away faster, not as often and less intense. Give it time and be patient with yourself. This is a big deal to the body and takes time.
Great choice in quitting, Muleman. We've all experienced the rage while trying to quit.  It's difficult to lash out at loved ones and not think that it is worth quitting, and that it's better to keep feeding the beast to keep it tame. 

However, you must go thru the rage, the fog, sleeplessness, the suck, anxiety, depression, and the utter misery to free yourself from the chains by which you bound yourself.  And by choice you simply unlock the shackles and walk away.  Run like hell at times. 

It's a bitch of a trail to trod but a well trodden trail nonetheless.  We've all been where you are at.  Quitting for the rest of your life and dealing with all the aforementioned withdrawal symptoms is too much to handle, so, a couple of tips:

WUPP -  that means post a daily promise ASAFP.  What better way to start a day than with a renewed commitment to be quit?

ODAAT - that means you don't have to quit for week, month, year at a time.  It just means you gotta quit for only one day at a time. 

Collect Digits - it's weird at first, but you'll find immense value in the safety net that this botherhood can provide.  BROTHERHOOD + ACCOUNTABILITY = SUCCESS.

Rage here, in the forums - not at home or at work.  Bring all that here, it's what we are here for, hear?

Finally, Quit for YOU, and for YOU only.  This requires you to believe that you can quit.  We believe you can, because we believe in ourselves and in our quit commrades.

Again, great choice in quitting, and an even better choice doing it with KTC

BMC 815

...I forgot one of the most important things: learn some emoticons.  Here's some to get you started:

'chew3' 'party' 'zombie' 'Pot' 'Pop'

BluManChew

Quote from: olcpo on December 31, 2019, 12:18:09 PM
Quote from: MuleMan on December 31, 2019, 06:50:01 AM
Quote from: olcpo on December 30, 2019, 08:00:28 PM
Quote from: MuleMan on December 29, 2019, 07:42:14 PM
Thanks Cspence.  I may take you up on your offer. No concern at the moment that I'll give up

I'm 42 hours into my quit and today was def harder than day 1.  I'm silently raging mad at myself all day and having outbursts toward family for minor annoyances. I'm starting to see the haze/fog others have talked about too. I feel like I can resist the cravings; just want the rage and emotions to lift and become more controllable. I have much to accomplish this week outside of my quit (I can see now that's in jeopardy); my quit seems most important to me.  not going back, just want this over.

Hi @MuleMan, I am 35 days into my quit. Still learning daily. Rage was my biggest obstacle. The first week was the worst. « Reply #16 on: December 02, 2019, 07:50:38 PM » in Olcpo Introduction "Day one" pages 4-5. This one was the peak, it got better fast after this. I have tried to blog every day, what I felt and what was new. Mostly to remind me of what I went through so I don't go back. I am sharing this spot on the site not so you can read about me, but so you can read the great advice I got from the vets on how they managed the rage and stress.

You are right that your quit is the most important right now. Honesty with my family as to what I was/am feeling and saying I'm sorry a lot. For me, prayer was/is essential. I have to give it to God, I cannot do it myself. Each instance feeling the anger/rage starting, learning what it fees like before I am in it, heading it off before it erupts. Walking away from situations, take a deep breath and a drink of water, pause for a moment, then go back and finish. One Minute At A Time = OMAAT One Second... One DayAAT Whatever it takes.

It does get better. It is a roller coaster. a few good days/hours and then "where did this come from" One hour at a time. I have to focus on the good minutes hours days. Now they really outnumber the bad and pretty much since week 2. Going back is not an option. I haven't called anyone yet. I should and will if for no other reason than to establish communication and Thank them for caring about me and my quit. I have their numbers (digits) programmed in my phone (which I rarely use because it doesn't work well where I live) in case I need to call them. If you want my digits or anything else, PM me and I will be glad to share mine. Your quit is a lot like a Mule, learn to read it like you do a mule.
@olcpo

Thanks olcpo - I read this closely- makes a lot of sense. Glad to hear of your quit and progress. Excited to reach Day 30; feels a long way off. This community has been a real blessing. God Bless you!
MuleMan

You've got this. The nicotine is about gone from your system. Now the games begin. Take it easy on yourself, if you can, choose low/no stress. Drink lots of water, flush the crap out of your system. Staying busy and working hard so I am physically tired really helped me, still is. One of the vets here shared, "You can't control what life or the world brings you, but you can control what you put in your mouth. Chew NEVER fixed anything (problem + chew = 2 problems)."

The days will go by fast as you observe the changes you are going through. The fog will go away. My forehead was tight, almost a headache, for a week. I cut my coffee back to about half for a few weeks. Without the nicotine and all the other crap the caffeine was stronger. I had trouble concentrating, mind seemed scattered, everything seemed intense. The only thing that helped was a change of location and what I was doing. This was the first week and then I noticed when it came on it went away faster, not as often and less intense. Give it time and be patient with yourself. This is a big deal to the body and takes time.
Great choice in quitting, Muleman. We've all experienced the rage while trying to quit.  It's difficult to lash out at loved ones and not think that it is worth quitting, and that it's better to keep feeding the beast to keep it tame. 

However, you must go thru the rage, the fog, sleeplessness, the suck, anxiety, depression, and the utter misery to free yourself from the chains by which you bound yourself.  And by choice you simply unlock the shackles and walk away.  Run like hell at times. 

It's a bitch of a trail to trod but a well trodden trail nonetheless.  We've all been where you are at.  Quitting for the rest of your life and dealing with all the aforementioned withdrawal symptoms is too much to handle, so, a couple of tips:

WUPP -  that means post a daily promise ASAFP.  What better way to start a day than with a renewed commitment to be quit?

ODAAT - that means you don't have to quit for week, month, year at a time.  It just means you gotta quit for only one day at a time. 

Collect Digits - it's weird at first, but you'll find immense value in the safety net that this botherhood can provide.  BROTHERHOOD + ACCOUNTABILITY = SUCCESS.

Rage here, in the forums - not at home or at work.  Bring all that here, it's what we are here for, hear?

Finally, Quit for YOU, and for YOU only.  This requires you to believe that you can quit.  We believe you can, because we believe in ourselves and in our quit commrades.

Again, great choice in quitting, and an even better choice doing it with KTC

BMC 815

olcpo

Quote from: MuleMan on December 31, 2019, 06:50:01 AM
Quote from: olcpo on December 30, 2019, 08:00:28 PM
Quote from: MuleMan on December 29, 2019, 07:42:14 PM
Thanks Cspence.  I may take you up on your offer. No concern at the moment that I'll give up

I'm 42 hours into my quit and today was def harder than day 1.  I'm silently raging mad at myself all day and having outbursts toward family for minor annoyances. I'm starting to see the haze/fog others have talked about too. I feel like I can resist the cravings; just want the rage and emotions to lift and become more controllable. I have much to accomplish this week outside of my quit (I can see now that's in jeopardy); my quit seems most important to me.  not going back, just want this over.

Hi @MuleMan, I am 35 days into my quit. Still learning daily. Rage was my biggest obstacle. The first week was the worst. « Reply #16 on: December 02, 2019, 07:50:38 PM » in Olcpo Introduction "Day one" pages 4-5. This one was the peak, it got better fast after this. I have tried to blog every day, what I felt and what was new. Mostly to remind me of what I went through so I don't go back. I am sharing this spot on the site not so you can read about me, but so you can read the great advice I got from the vets on how they managed the rage and stress.

You are right that your quit is the most important right now. Honesty with my family as to what I was/am feeling and saying I'm sorry a lot. For me, prayer was/is essential. I have to give it to God, I cannot do it myself. Each instance feeling the anger/rage starting, learning what it fees like before I am in it, heading it off before it erupts. Walking away from situations, take a deep breath and a drink of water, pause for a moment, then go back and finish. One Minute At A Time = OMAAT One Second... One DayAAT Whatever it takes.

It does get better. It is a roller coaster. a few good days/hours and then "where did this come from" One hour at a time. I have to focus on the good minutes hours days. Now they really outnumber the bad and pretty much since week 2. Going back is not an option. I haven't called anyone yet. I should and will if for no other reason than to establish communication and Thank them for caring about me and my quit. I have their numbers (digits) programmed in my phone (which I rarely use because it doesn't work well where I live) in case I need to call them. If you want my digits or anything else, PM me and I will be glad to share mine. Your quit is a lot like a Mule, learn to read it like you do a mule.
@olcpo

Thanks olcpo - I read this closely- makes a lot of sense. Glad to hear of your quit and progress. Excited to reach Day 30; feels a long way off. This community has been a real blessing. God Bless you!
MuleMan

You've got this. The nicotine is about gone from your system. Now the games begin. Take it easy on yourself, if you can, choose low/no stress. Drink lots of water, flush the crap out of your system. Staying busy and working hard so I am physically tired really helped me, still is. One of the vets here shared, "You can't control what life or the world brings you, but you can control what you put in your mouth. Chew NEVER fixed anything (problem + chew = 2 problems)."

The days will go by fast as you observe the changes you are going through. The fog will go away. My forehead was tight, almost a headache, for a week. I cut my coffee back to about half for a few weeks. Without the nicotine and all the other crap the caffeine was stronger. I had trouble concentrating, mind seemed scattered, everything seemed intense. The only thing that helped was a change of location and what I was doing. This was the first week and then I noticed when it came on it went away faster, not as often and less intense. Give it time and be patient with yourself. This is a big deal to the body and takes time.
Micah 6:8
"Dying is easy, It's Living that's tough".
"Caving is easy, It's Quitting that is Tough"

EXBEARHAG

Hey @MuleMan
I am also a 40 something, father of 4, from the Northeast.  Your intro could be mine (or many others here).  I used for a long time and relied on nic for everything I did during the course of a day.  At day 169 my life is easier than it was in the first several weeks.  WUPP, do everything you need to do to keep that shit out of your face, sleep, repeat.  Not easy but simple.  Make some relationships as soon as you can for some added accountability.  You are less likely to cave if you have promised people you have a relationship with that you would not... if your word means anything, that is. 
You can do this brother.  PM me for digits if you like.  Take it slow.  Hold the line.
PTBQWYT my friend.

MuleMan

Quote from: olcpo on December 30, 2019, 08:00:28 PM
Quote from: MuleMan on December 29, 2019, 07:42:14 PM
Thanks Cspence.  I may take you up on your offer. No concern at the moment that I'll give up

I'm 42 hours into my quit and today was def harder than day 1.  I'm silently raging mad at myself all day and having outbursts toward family for minor annoyances. I'm starting to see the haze/fog others have talked about too. I feel like I can resist the cravings; just want the rage and emotions to lift and become more controllable. I have much to accomplish this week outside of my quit (I can see now that's in jeopardy); my quit seems most important to me.  not going back, just want this over.

Hi @MuleMan, I am 35 days into my quit. Still learning daily. Rage was my biggest obstacle. The first week was the worst. « Reply #16 on: December 02, 2019, 07:50:38 PM » in Olcpo Introduction "Day one" pages 4-5. This one was the peak, it got better fast after this. I have tried to blog every day, what I felt and what was new. Mostly to remind me of what I went through so I don't go back. I am sharing this spot on the site not so you can read about me, but so you can read the great advice I got from the vets on how they managed the rage and stress.

You are right that your quit is the most important right now. Honesty with my family as to what I was/am feeling and saying I'm sorry a lot. For me, prayer was/is essential. I have to give it to God, I cannot do it myself. Each instance feeling the anger/rage starting, learning what it fees like before I am in it, heading it off before it erupts. Walking away from situations, take a deep breath and a drink of water, pause for a moment, then go back and finish. One Minute At A Time = OMAAT One Second... One DayAAT Whatever it takes.

It does get better. It is a roller coaster. a few good days/hours and then "where did this come from" One hour at a time. I have to focus on the good minutes hours days. Now they really outnumber the bad and pretty much since week 2. Going back is not an option. I haven't called anyone yet. I should and will if for no other reason than to establish communication and Thank them for caring about me and my quit. I have their numbers (digits) programmed in my phone (which I rarely use because it doesn't work well where I live) in case I need to call them. If you want my digits or anything else, PM me and I will be glad to share mine. Your quit is a lot like a Mule, learn to read it like you do a mule.
@olcpo

Thanks olcpo - I read this closely- makes a lot of sense. Glad to hear of your quit and progress. Excited to reach Day 30; feels a long way off. This community has been a real blessing. God Bless you!
MuleMan
MuleMan
Cause I Kill the Can

olcpo

Quote from: MuleMan on December 29, 2019, 07:42:14 PM
Thanks Cspence.  I may take you up on your offer. No concern at the moment that I'll give up

I'm 42 hours into my quit and today was def harder than day 1.  I'm silently raging mad at myself all day and having outbursts toward family for minor annoyances. I'm starting to see the haze/fog others have talked about too. I feel like I can resist the cravings; just want the rage and emotions to lift and become more controllable. I have much to accomplish this week outside of my quit (I can see now that's in jeopardy); my quit seems most important to me.  not going back, just want this over.

Hi @MuleMan, I am 35 days into my quit. Still learning daily. Rage was my biggest obstacle. The first week was the worst. « Reply #16 on: December 02, 2019, 07:50:38 PM » in Olcpo Introduction "Day one" pages 4-5. This one was the peak, it got better fast after this. I have tried to blog every day, what I felt and what was new. Mostly to remind me of what I went through so I don't go back. I am sharing this spot on the site not so you can read about me, but so you can read the great advice I got from the vets on how they managed the rage and stress.

You are right that your quit is the most important right now. Honesty with my family as to what I was/am feeling and saying I'm sorry a lot. For me, prayer was/is essential. I have to give it to God, I cannot do it myself. Each instance feeling the anger/rage starting, learning what it fees like before I am in it, heading it off before it erupts. Walking away from situations, take a deep breath and a drink of water, pause for a moment, then go back and finish. One Minute At A Time = OMAAT One Second... One DayAAT Whatever it takes.

It does get better. It is a roller coaster. a few good days/hours and then "where did this come from" One hour at a time. I have to focus on the good minutes hours days. Now they really outnumber the bad and pretty much since week 2. Going back is not an option. I haven't called anyone yet. I should and will if for no other reason than to establish communication and Thank them for caring about me and my quit. I have their numbers (digits) programmed in my phone (which I rarely use because it doesn't work well where I live) in case I need to call them. If you want my digits or anything else, PM me and I will be glad to share mine. Your quit is a lot like a Mule, learn to read it like you do a mule.
@olcpo 
Micah 6:8
"Dying is easy, It's Living that's tough".
"Caving is easy, It's Quitting that is Tough"