Ready to quit, but cold turkey isnt an option

[AppleJack]

Fuck it. been heavily reading all the posts here. Arguing or something of the sort over on my original introduction thread. Fuck all that. Im fucking pissed. Pissed at nicotine. Pissed at my past. Pissed at myself. Everyone is right. Excuses, that's all it fucking is. All it ever was. Im motherfucking sick of being addicted to this shit. And I already dont like the hivemind here, but fuck it, I clearly cant do this shit on my own. And through the midst of all the garbage I dont care for here, I can see the message everyone is trying to get across. 

Something thats always always bugged me, is that "people dont care" about your problems. Something dawned on me earlier that you all have tons and tons of people here taking the time to help people actually quit and stay quit. Maybe this KTC shit willa ctually work for me i dont know. I know for fucking sure that im in one terrible pissed off mood right now. I do not want to go cold turkey, I dont want to fucking quit. I just want to keep chewing and chewing and chewing. But I know thats not really me, thats the nicotine talking. Its like a fucking mindjacking alien. Fuck that alien. 

I know Im gonna fuck up, stumble, and will probably be the weakest counterpart of whatever group Im in. But god dammit Im at my wits end, and I am humbled by my lack of willpower. So im gonna try the KTC way, cuz I dont know what else to do anymore.

1... Stick to your original intro. A mod will fix that for you. Each person only gets one.

2... Pissed off is good. Very good. This garbage drug is stealing your health, your money, your integrity, your personality... everything. Pissed off is very good. You’re the top of the food chain... stop letting yourself be owned by it.

3... No trying. No hoping. Own your decision bro. You’re not any more addicted than I was. I chewed for 25 years and was doing 2 cans a day for a good damn chunk of it. Dude... that’s epic junkie level status right there. How did I do this? I wanted to. Plain and simple. I wanted to quit more than I wanted to chew. I. Fucking. Owned. It. I got involved here... I got phone numbers... I talked to people... I helped people... I raged against the machine...

I worked it.

Your mindset has to change.
There is NO option to stumble. You don’t get to cave and try again. That’s not how it works.

Own. Your. Decision.

Be better than what you’re addicted to.

You can do this.
Ask me how I know.
I was you.

AJ... 2,567 days of freedom

Already Ive caught myself thinking its ok, we can do this for a few weeks, a few days, etc. Or like its fine, Ill just go buy cigs, its ok cuz its not dip. etc. Fuck that though. I dont want to make any kinds of excuses or alterations or come up with alternatives. Im sitting here telling myself I can do this but I honestly cant in good faith say that a week from now I wont be dipping. Im unable tow rap my mindset around how you are able to guarantee in a year or whatever you wont be dipping. That mentally does not make sense to me, as in I physically cant understand that. 

So instead my goal for today is to go 24 hours without. Tommorrow, I will make the goal, another 24 hours.

ODAAT

One day at a time.

That’s the manageable increment we go with. Today.

Today... you can quit.

[DirtRoad89]

Fuck it. been heavily reading all the posts here. Arguing or something of the sort over on my original introduction thread. Fuck all that. Im fucking pissed. Pissed at nicotine. Pissed at my past. Pissed at myself. Everyone is right. Excuses, that's all it fucking is. All it ever was. Im motherfucking sick of being addicted to this shit. And I already dont like the hivemind here, but fuck it, I clearly cant do this shit on my own. And through the midst of all the garbage I dont care for here, I can see the message everyone is trying to get across. 

Something thats always always bugged me, is that "people dont care" about your problems. Something dawned on me earlier that you all have tons and tons of people here taking the time to help people actually quit and stay quit. Maybe this KTC shit willa ctually work for me i dont know. I know for fucking sure that im in one terrible pissed off mood right now. I do not want to go cold turkey, I dont want to fucking quit. I just want to keep chewing and chewing and chewing. But I know thats not really me, thats the nicotine talking. Its like a fucking mindjacking alien. Fuck that alien. 

I know Im gonna fuck up, stumble, and will probably be the weakest counterpart of whatever group Im in. But god dammit Im at my wits end, and I am humbled by my lack of willpower. So im gonna try the KTC way, cuz I dont know what else to do anymore.

1... Stick to your original intro. A mod will fix that for you. Each person only gets one.

2... Pissed off is good. Very good. This garbage drug is stealing your health, your money, your integrity, your personality... everything. Pissed off is very good. You’re the top of the food chain... stop letting yourself be owned by it.

3... No trying. No hoping. Own your decision bro. You’re not any more addicted than I was. I chewed for 25 years and was doing 2 cans a day for a good damn chunk of it. Dude... that’s epic junkie level status right there. How did I do this? I wanted to. Plain and simple. I wanted to quit more than I wanted to chew. I. Fucking. Owned. It. I got involved here... I got phone numbers... I talked to people... I helped people... I raged against the machine...

I worked it.

Your mindset has to change.
There is NO option to stumble. You don’t get to cave and try again. That’s not how it works.

Own. Your. Decision.

Be better than what you’re addicted to.

You can do this.
Ask me how I know.
I was you.

AJ... 2,567 days of freedom

Already Ive caught myself thinking its ok, we can do this for a few weeks, a few days, etc. Or like its fine, Ill just go buy cigs, its ok cuz its not dip. etc. Fuck that though. I dont want to make any kinds of excuses or alterations or come up with alternatives. Im sitting here telling myself I can do this but I honestly cant in good faith say that a week from now I wont be dipping. Im unable tow rap my mindset around how you are able to guarantee in a year or whatever you wont be dipping. That mentally does not make sense to me, as in I physically cant understand that. 

So instead my goal for today is to go 24 hours without. Tommorrow, I will make the goal, another 24 hours.

[AppleJack]

Fuck it. been heavily reading all the posts here. Arguing or something of the sort over on my original introduction thread. Fuck all that. Im fucking pissed. Pissed at nicotine. Pissed at my past. Pissed at myself. Everyone is right. Excuses, that's all it fucking is. All it ever was. Im motherfucking sick of being addicted to this shit. And I already dont like the hivemind here, but fuck it, I clearly cant do this shit on my own. And through the midst of all the garbage I dont care for here, I can see the message everyone is trying to get across. 

Something thats always always bugged me, is that "people dont care" about your problems. Something dawned on me earlier that you all have tons and tons of people here taking the time to help people actually quit and stay quit. Maybe this KTC shit willa ctually work for me i dont know. I know for fucking sure that im in one terrible pissed off mood right now. I do not want to go cold turkey, I dont want to fucking quit. I just want to keep chewing and chewing and chewing. But I know thats not really me, thats the nicotine talking. Its like a fucking mindjacking alien. Fuck that alien. 

I know Im gonna fuck up, stumble, and will probably be the weakest counterpart of whatever group Im in. But god dammit Im at my wits end, and I am humbled by my lack of willpower. So im gonna try the KTC way, cuz I dont know what else to do anymore.

1... Stick to your original intro. A mod will fix that for you. Each person only gets one.

2... Pissed off is good. Very good. This garbage drug is stealing your health, your money, your integrity, your personality... everything. Pissed off is very good. You’re the top of the food chain... stop letting yourself be owned by it.

3... No trying. No hoping. Own your decision bro. You’re not any more addicted than I was. I chewed for 25 years and was doing 2 cans a day for a good damn chunk of it. Dude... that’s epic junkie level status right there. How did I do this? I wanted to. Plain and simple. I wanted to quit more than I wanted to chew. I. Fucking. Owned. It. I got involved here... I got phone numbers... I talked to people... I helped people... I raged against the machine...

I worked it.

Your mindset has to change.
There is NO option to stumble. You don’t get to cave and try again. That’s not how it works.

Own. Your. Decision.

Be better than what you’re addicted to.

You can do this.
Ask me how I know.
I was you.

AJ... 2,567 days of freedom

[Zeus]

New group is forming up right here. Join them and make your promise to stay nicotine free until tomorrow.

https://ktcforum.org/index.php?topic=16445.0

[RDB]

Alright, lets say I do join the cult. Whats gonna stop me from cheating? What actual accountability is there? I can easily see myself having a moment of weakness and dipping still. Im sure my words have been spoken a million times here before, but like stressful job + local culture + lack of willpower, how the fuck do you actually have accountability for that to keep people from lying and being honest? How do I know that my group doesnt have a bunch of lyers in it telling me, hell, how do I know that anyone here is being truthful theyve actually quit, or dont indulge from time to time?

Honor your promise. It’s that simple. When you post roll, you are promising yourself, every member of your quit group, and everyone posting support.

Be a man of your word, and honor your promise.

[DirtRoad89]

Fuck it. been heavily reading all the posts here. Arguing or something of the sort over on my original introduction thread. Fuck all that. Im fucking pissed. Pissed at nicotine. Pissed at my past. Pissed at myself. Everyone is right. Excuses, that's all it fucking is. All it ever was. Im motherfucking sick of being addicted to this shit. And I already dont like the hivemind here, but fuck it, I clearly cant do this shit on my own. And through the midst of all the garbage I dont care for here, I can see the message everyone is trying to get across. 

Something thats always always bugged me, is that "people dont care" about your problems. Something dawned on me earlier that you all have tons and tons of people here taking the time to help people actually quit and stay quit. Maybe this KTC shit willa ctually work for me i dont know. I know for fucking sure that im in one terrible pissed off mood right now. I do not want to go cold turkey, I dont want to fucking quit. I just want to keep chewing and chewing and chewing. But I know thats not really me, thats the nicotine talking. Its like a fucking mindjacking alien. Fuck that alien. 

I know Im gonna fuck up, stumble, and will probably be the weakest counterpart of whatever group Im in. But god dammit Im at my wits end, and I am humbled by my lack of willpower. So im gonna try the KTC way, cuz I dont know what else to do anymore.

[DirtRoad89]

You sound a lot like I did when I joined this site 1,557 days ago. All I can say is that I’ve learned that this site works. The method works. I chewed for more than 24 years, and tried to quit on my own countless times.

Just before coming here I tried “stepping down” too. Only I used nicotine gum.

I detested the hive think and bullying too. But I wanted to quit more. So I started drinking the Kool-aid. Here I am, more than four years later, still quit and posting roll daily.

This place works. Check your ego at the door, and quit with us.

its inspiring, im sure your not the only one. i know how damn helplessly addicted i am to this shit tho, i dont even know hwo the fuck to get to that point where im able to toss all the shit out just like that. like, im at that point right now. its in the trash, and ive already picked it back out twice now, and then consequently put it right back. ive got 14 cans of fake shit, and im just sitting here wanting to quit so badly, yet i cant even bring myself to make the first crucial step. i dont know how the fuck im supposed to contend with a lack of willpower like that.

its disheartening when you see just how much you want to quit, and you cant even force yourself to take the first crucial step. i know for a fact if i throw everything away and quit, within a few days ill be back at the gas station cursing myself for being weak hating myself and stuff. idk what to do anymore.

thats why im asking about accountability.

[DirtRoad89]

Alright, lets say I do join the cult. Whats gonna stop me from cheating? What actual accountability is there? I can easily see myself having a moment of weakness and dipping still. Im sure my words have been spoken a million times here before, but like stressful job + local culture + lack of willpower, how the fuck do you actually have accountability for that to keep people from lying and being honest? How do I know that my group doesnt have a bunch of lyers in it telling me, hell, how do I know that anyone here is being truthful theyve actually quit, or dont indulge from time to time?

[Keith0617]

@DirtRoad89 you are pathetic. Stop posting. You don’t have the balls or mindset to quit. I truly feel sorry for you.

[Athan]

...I have now almost quit ....

almost?
loves, fortunes, and lives have been lost to almost
How about a nice healthy dose of honest introspection. Take a walk with me and we'll look back on your life and see just how much almost has cost you.
You mentioned an ex. Is that because you were almost a husband?
Are there children suffering from almost a father?
Has your professional development suffered because you almost educated yourself?
How many career opportunities were lost to 'almost ready'?
I'm not being presumptuous; you've already told us all we need to know.
Yeah, how bout we take a walk and see just how much 'almost' has cost you.
I'm thinking that's a veil you'll almost pull back.
Aren't you tire of paying for 'almost'?

[RDB]

You sound a lot like I did when I joined this site 1,557 days ago. All I can say is that I’ve learned that this site works. The method works. I chewed for more than 24 years, and tried to quit on my own countless times.

Just before coming here I tried “stepping down” too. Only I used nicotine gum.

I detested the hive think and bullying too. But I wanted to quit more. So I started drinking the Kool-aid. Here I am, more than four years later, still quit and posting roll daily.

This place works. Check your ego at the door, and quit with us.

[AppleJack]

Update:

I have now almost quit real chew. I am barely dipping at all now, the real stuff that is at least. Im down to about 20 minutes every 24 hours. In between I either dont dip or I do the fake stuff. It has been hard, but I am determined to quit (despite what all the naysayers here say, not surprised by that either). I will continue to wean myself off it until I am completely free of it. At this point in time Im at the point where half the time I go to reach for a real dip, and im just like 'nah, ill do the fake stuff', so I end up going longer the 24 hours without the real stuff.

I’m with AppleJack. Come back when you are ready to quit. As long as you are letting a dead plant in a can kick your ass, stop posting here. If and when you are ready to quit, come back. We will be ready to support you.
This isn’t Facebook.
Updates are white noise and bullshit to us when you haven’t quit.

1... How dare you come on a site that is all about quitting and gaining power over this addiction, flaunting your 100% lame ass excuses for why you “can’t quit” cold turkey AND still using. Idiot.

2... Quit now or leave. It’s that simple. If you would pull your head out of your ass and take the time to read all the responses below, you would understand why we are vehemently attacking you on this point.

I, for one, do NOT give one damn about your weaning status.

It’s weak.
It’s insulting to all the guys and gals who are ACTUALLY quitting.

Quit, join a quit group, or...
Go. Away.

It’s that simple.

I agree with AppleJack. Stop posting until you are ready to quit. We don’t try, we quit. We don’t do stoppages, we quit. So when you are tired of letting a dead plant in a can kick you ass and have truly decided to quit, come back and we will support you every step of the way. Until then. - don’t post anymore updates.

I'll quit on my own terms, thank you very much, and not what the KilltheCan Cult wants. I have far far more respect for myself and any man or woman out there that quits an addiction based off their own heart/mind etc, and not what the collective hivemind demands. 

Furthermore, yea I read the fucking forum rules. If nicotine is still in your system, youre limited to introductions, which is exactly what im doing. 

I can see now how toxic of a community this is, no different then say something like Reddit, or other forms of social media. I am more then happy to go my own way now and do this thing on my own then be keelhauled into what the great hivemind wants.   

Id rather die of by my own hand then join a cult.

You make me sad, dude.

You just absolutely do NOT get it.

You’re being a bitch because you got called out. Truth hurts... especially when you’re an addict still trying to justify why you’re still using. It’s all excuses. Can you see that? You’re sabotaging yourself on all sides. You obviously can’t quit on your own. Can you see that? You listed reason after reason (all bullshit) why you can’t just quit.

Pull your head out. Listen to us. We know addicts... we are addicts. I’ve personally heard cats like you hundreds of times crying and whining about KTC being bullies. Don’t like it?... go away. Slow your roll and listen?... you might have a chance.

We’re successful here. Our way. Proven.
You haven’t been on your own.

Food for thought.

[MN_Engineer]

Update:

I have now almost quit real chew. I am barely dipping at all now, the real stuff that is at least. Im down to about 20 minutes every 24 hours. In between I either dont dip or I do the fake stuff. It has been hard, but I am determined to quit (despite what all the naysayers here say, not surprised by that either). I will continue to wean myself off it until I am completely free of it. At this point in time Im at the point where half the time I go to reach for a real dip, and im just like 'nah, ill do the fake stuff', so I end up going longer the 24 hours without the real stuff.

I’m with AppleJack. Come back when you are ready to quit. As long as you are letting a dead plant in a can kick your ass, stop posting here. If and when you are ready to quit, come back. We will be ready to support you.
This isn’t Facebook.
Updates are white noise and bullshit to us when you haven’t quit.

1... How dare you come on a site that is all about quitting and gaining power over this addiction, flaunting your 100% lame ass excuses for why you “can’t quit” cold turkey AND still using. Idiot.

2... Quit now or leave. It’s that simple. If you would pull your head out of your ass and take the time to read all the responses below, you would understand why we are vehemently attacking you on this point.

I, for one, do NOT give one damn about your weaning status.

It’s weak.
It’s insulting to all the guys and gals who are ACTUALLY quitting.

Quit, join a quit group, or...
Go. Away.

It’s that simple.

I agree with AppleJack. Stop posting until you are ready to quit. We don’t try, we quit. We don’t do stoppages, we quit. So when you are tired of letting a dead plant in a can kick you ass and have truly decided to quit, come back and we will support you every step of the way. Until then. - don’t post anymore updates.

I'll quit on my own terms, thank you very much, and not what the KilltheCan Cult wants. I have far far more respect for myself and any man or woman out there that quits an addiction based off their own heart/mind etc, and not what the collective hivemind demands. 

Furthermore, yea I read the fucking forum rules. If nicotine is still in your system, youre limited to introductions, which is exactly what im doing. 

I can see now how toxic of a community this is, no different then say something like Reddit, or other forms of social media. I am more then happy to go my own way now and do this thing on my own then be keelhauled into what the great hivemind wants.   

Id rather die of by my own hand then join a cult.

It isn't a cult. It's an accountability website for those of us that are actually QUIT. Which you are not. And like AppleJack said, your lame status updates while still poisoning yourself isn't what we do here.

If you think you got this all figured out, I don't know why you are wasting your time here. If you don't understand what we are trying to do to help you make the leap, then you also don't understand accountability. This isn't a feel good site where we try and hope and failures are addressed with a pat on the ass and a "you'll get them next time champ". Those sites are out there but their success rate doesn't even compare to KTC.

If you decide to find some humility and stop poisoning yourself while stretching our your withdrawal period, let us know. Until then, stop wasting our time. We will be helping those that have the balls to rid their lives from nicotine completely and are honoring their words one day at a time.

[DirtRoad89]

Update:

I have now almost quit real chew. I am barely dipping at all now, the real stuff that is at least. Im down to about 20 minutes every 24 hours. In between I either dont dip or I do the fake stuff. It has been hard, but I am determined to quit (despite what all the naysayers here say, not surprised by that either). I will continue to wean myself off it until I am completely free of it. At this point in time Im at the point where half the time I go to reach for a real dip, and im just like 'nah, ill do the fake stuff', so I end up going longer the 24 hours without the real stuff.

I’m with AppleJack. Come back when you are ready to quit. As long as you are letting a dead plant in a can kick your ass, stop posting here. If and when you are ready to quit, come back. We will be ready to support you.
This isn’t Facebook.
Updates are white noise and bullshit to us when you haven’t quit.

1... How dare you come on a site that is all about quitting and gaining power over this addiction, flaunting your 100% lame ass excuses for why you “can’t quit” cold turkey AND still using. Idiot.

2... Quit now or leave. It’s that simple. If you would pull your head out of your ass and take the time to read all the responses below, you would understand why we are vehemently attacking you on this point.

I, for one, do NOT give one damn about your weaning status.

It’s weak.
It’s insulting to all the guys and gals who are ACTUALLY quitting.

Quit, join a quit group, or...
Go. Away.

It’s that simple.

I agree with AppleJack. Stop posting until you are ready to quit. We don’t try, we quit. We don’t do stoppages, we quit. So when you are tired of letting a dead plant in a can kick you ass and have truly decided to quit, come back and we will support you every step of the way. Until then. - don’t post anymore updates.

I'll quit on my own terms, thank you very much, and not what the KilltheCan Cult wants. I have far far more respect for myself and any man or woman out there that quits an addiction based off their own heart/mind etc, and not what the collective hivemind demands. 

Furthermore, yea I read the fucking forum rules. If nicotine is still in your system, youre limited to introductions, which is exactly what im doing. 

I can see now how toxic of a community this is, no different then say something like Reddit, or other forms of social media. I am more then happy to go my own way now and do this thing on my own then be keelhauled into what the great hivemind wants.   

Id rather die of by my own hand then join a cult.

[Keith0617]

Update:

I have now almost quit real chew. I am barely dipping at all now, the real stuff that is at least. Im down to about 20 minutes every 24 hours. In between I either dont dip or I do the fake stuff. It has been hard, but I am determined to quit (despite what all the naysayers here say, not surprised by that either). I will continue to wean myself off it until I am completely free of it. At this point in time Im at the point where half the time I go to reach for a real dip, and im just like 'nah, ill do the fake stuff', so I end up going longer the 24 hours without the real stuff.

I’m with AppleJack. Come back when you are ready to quit. As long as you are letting a dead plant in a can kick your ass, stop posting here. If and when you are ready to quit, come back. We will be ready to support you.
This isn’t Facebook.
Updates are white noise and bullshit to us when you haven’t quit.

1... How dare you come on a site that is all about quitting and gaining power over this addiction, flaunting your 100% lame ass excuses for why you “can’t quit” cold turkey AND still using. Idiot.

2... Quit now or leave. It’s that simple. If you would pull your head out of your ass and take the time to read all the responses below, you would understand why we are vehemently attacking you on this point.

I, for one, do NOT give one damn about your weaning status.

It’s weak.
It’s insulting to all the guys and gals who are ACTUALLY quitting.

Quit, join a quit group, or...
Go. Away.

It’s that simple.

I agree with AppleJack. Stop posting until you are ready to quit. We don’t try, we quit. We don’t do stoppages, we quit. So when you are tired of letting a dead plant in a can kick you ass and have truly decided to quit, come back and we will support you every step of the way. Until then. - don’t post anymore updates.