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Re: General Discussion - 2013
« Reply #408 on: July 03, 2013, 06:27:00 PM »
'Popcorn' This one should be interesting
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Re: General Discussion - 2013
« Reply #407 on: July 03, 2013, 06:07:00 PM »
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Hey,  I'm new here and didnt really want to do an introduction cause I'm probablya bad influence and thoroughly enjoy dipping,  but I kind of want to stop for health reasons (I get PVCs when I dip a lot and have any alcohol along with anything with caffeine.) I pretty much joined to see if anyone knows where I can get kikit brand tobacco free chew.  I have been looking online and can't find it anywhere. I feel likei can quit any time I want,  and have been fine going cold turkey for weeks or months at a time,  but just miss the  satisfaction and contentment. I recently went a year and a half without cause I was in Australia and they don't sell it there, but as soon as I hit US soil I got some.  I don't feel I have a nicotine addiction, I just have the habit. With that being said, I would do fine with just having a dip alternative in my mouth that seems real.  I have tried bacoff and it's the most disgusting thing ever to me.  It tastes like it had Pine Sol in it. I was walking into the commissary on day when I was in Hawaii and they were handing out free samples of kikit and I got two cans.  The green can was the best dip alternative I've ever tried.  It really feels like you have a dip in and even gives a little bit of a burn. The feel is perfect and it stays packed in your lip like a real dip,  unlike the jerky chew that ends up hurting my lip more than real dip cause its so dry.

Does anyone know where to get it? Or if you've tried it before, know of anything extremely similar? I'm a Copenhagen straight user,  and not really fond of the wintergreen or natural tasting ones.  If anyone could give me some ideas so I don't have to waste too much money on buying everything to try and can eliminate some options right away, I would greatly appreciate it!
um...might have been the worst intro, message on a discussion board i've ever read since joining KTC 57 days ago.

first of all, you need to go to the intro page and maybe make an introduction to the rest of the 15000 members on here. If you think you can quit at any time then you would be quit right now. That type of talk will get you no where here.

if you are not an addict you wouldn't be here searching for something to help you quit...non addicts don't pick something that can kill them after putting it down for a year. You need a role model...i'm not him, but seriously...i'm so pissed off by this comment i could just scream. 'bang head'

Good luck
Sorry it's the worst intro ever, but the fact is, I don't want to quit dipping. I want to dip something else, and it's specifically made by kikit. I dip when I'm bored or doing specific things like playing video games or working in the yard. I don't dip because I need the nicotine. I used to bar tend and could go hours without even thinking about dipping. If I'm around certain people or where dipping seems a little inappropriate, I have no problems going without it and not even feeling any need for it. I just have an oral fixation. When I didn't dip while in Australia, I was snacking all the time. I didn't join to get help with quitting. I joined because people who are trying to quit probably have a good knowledge of the products out there and I specifically want a certain product or a very similar product that I plan on continually using in the place of tobacco dip. Everyone is different and has different levels of addiction, so you can't classify me in the same group that everyone else is in. A person will never succeed in quitting anything if they don't want to quit. I happen to not want to quit, but still have enough awareness to want to find an alternative. I don't want to chew gum, the salt in seeds and the hardness of the shells hurt my gums and cheek even more than dip and I find it to be even more inconveniencing than just spitting in a bottle. I'm sorry I don't have the same goals as most people on here, but maybe you just find the needs to try to outcast anyone who doesn't have the same goal as you, or maybe you take offense to the fact, whether you believe it or not, I CAN quit dipping whenever I want and not be a wreck for days after. Whenever I started back up again, it's because I chose to, not because I felt I needed to. I just enjoy it and as of right now, I don't havea desire to quit. A lot of times I decided to quit was because of the price jumping up to $6-$8 a can, or while on deployment, the lack of selection and freshness. Right now I can still get it for under$3 and I know it's bad for your health, but these days, just being alive is bad for your health.

So basically, I didn't join to get help with quitting, or get lectured, or brag about anything. I just wanted to get some info on some products. If that's too much to ask, then maybe you should be taking some stress management classes to deal with your withdrawals.

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Re: General Discussion - 2013
« Reply #406 on: July 03, 2013, 05:09:00 PM »
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Hey, I'm new here and didnt really want to do an introduction cause I'm probablya bad influence and thoroughly enjoy dipping, but I kind of want to stop for health reasons (I get PVCs when I dip a lot and have any alcohol along with anything with caffeine.) I pretty much joined to see if anyone knows where I can get kikit brand tobacco free chew. I have been looking online and can't find it anywhere. I feel likei can quit any time I want, and have been fine going cold turkey for weeks or months at a time, but just miss the satisfaction and contentment. I recently went a year and a half without cause I was in Australia and they don't sell it there, but as soon as I hit US soil I got some. I don't feel I have a nicotine addiction, I just have the habit. With that being said, I would do fine with just having a dip alternative in my mouth that seems real. I have tried bacoff and it's the most disgusting thing ever to me. It tastes like it had Pine Sol in it. I was walking into the commissary on day when I was in Hawaii and they were handing out free samples of kikit and I got two cans. The green can was the best dip alternative I've ever tried. It really feels like you have a dip in and even gives a little bit of a burn. The feel is perfect and it stays packed in your lip like a real dip, unlike the jerky chew that ends up hurting my lip more than real dip cause its so dry.

Does anyone know where to get it? Or if you've tried it before, know of anything extremely similar? I'm a Copenhagen straight user, and not really fond of the wintergreen or natural tasting ones. If anyone could give me some ideas so I don't have to waste too much money on buying everything to try and can eliminate some options right away, I would greatly appreciate it!
um...might have been the worst intro, message on a discussion board i've ever read since joining KTC 57 days ago.

first of all, you need to go to the intro page and maybe make an introduction to the rest of the 15000 members on here. If you think you can quit at any time then you would be quit right now. That type of talk will get you no where here.

if you are not an addict you wouldn't be here searching for something to help you quit...non addicts don't pick something that can kill them after putting it down for a year. You need a role model...i'm not him, but seriously...i'm so pissed off by this comment i could just scream. 'bang head'

Good luck
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Re: General Discussion - 2013
« Reply #405 on: July 03, 2013, 04:41:00 PM »
Hey, I'm new here and didnt really want to do an introduction cause I'm probablya bad influence and thoroughly enjoy dipping, but I kind of want to stop for health reasons (I get PVCs when I dip a lot and have any alcohol along with anything with caffeine.) I pretty much joined to see if anyone knows where I can get kikit brand tobacco free chew. I have been looking online and can't find it anywhere. I feel likei can quit any time I want, and have been fine going cold turkey for weeks or months at a time, but just miss the satisfaction and contentment. I recently went a year and a half without cause I was in Australia and they don't sell it there, but as soon as I hit US soil I got some. I don't feel I have a nicotine addiction, I just have the habit. With that being said, I would do fine with just having a dip alternative in my mouth that seems real. I have tried bacoff and it's the most disgusting thing ever to me. It tastes like it had Pine Sol in it. I was walking into the commissary on day when I was in Hawaii and they were handing out free samples of kikit and I got two cans. The green can was the best dip alternative I've ever tried. It really feels like you have a dip in and even gives a little bit of a burn. The feel is perfect and it stays packed in your lip like a real dip, unlike the jerky chew that ends up hurting my lip more than real dip cause its so dry.

Does anyone know where to get it? Or if you've tried it before, know of anything extremely similar? I'm a Copenhagen straight user, and not really fond of the wintergreen or natural tasting ones. If anyone could give me some ideas so I don't have to waste too much money on buying everything to try and can eliminate some options right away, I would greatly appreciate it!

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Re: General Discussion - 2013
« Reply #404 on: July 02, 2013, 10:53:00 PM »
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I've seen these in the store but the only box of cartridges available at that store clearly said no nicotine. I never smoked but for those who did, would you all agree if there is no nic, it would be acceptable? It seems like the same idea as fake chew. Any thoughts?
My personal opinion here...

If a product... any product... is no nicotine and no tobacco, then it's a completely acceptable tool to use while posting roll here.
I would agree with Chews. But for some reason, I have a harder time accepting the use of fake cigs. Don't know why. Just seems like it would be harder to put down once you made it through the roughest part of quitting.
day one behind me its been very hard but i just keep saying i will get through next hour ! ^_^
Hour, minute, second whatever it takes bccam...Post roll and honor your word EFDD!!! Have you found your quit group yet? I'll pm you my number and let's get to quitting.
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Re: General Discussion - 2013
« Reply #403 on: July 02, 2013, 10:06:00 PM »
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I've seen these in the store but the only box of cartridges available at that store clearly said no nicotine. I never smoked but for those who did, would you all agree if there is no nic, it would be acceptable? It seems like the same idea as fake chew. Any thoughts?
My personal opinion here...

If a product... any product... is no nicotine and no tobacco, then it's a completely acceptable tool to use while posting roll here.
I would agree with Chews. But for some reason, I have a harder time accepting the use of fake cigs. Don't know why. Just seems like it would be harder to put down once you made it through the roughest part of quitting.
day one behind me its been very hard but i just keep saying i will get through next hour ! ^_^

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Re: General Discussion - 2013
« Reply #402 on: July 01, 2013, 02:57:00 PM »
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I've seen these in the store but the only box of cartridges available at that store clearly said no nicotine. I never smoked but for those who did, would you all agree if there is no nic, it would be acceptable? It seems like the same idea as fake chew. Any thoughts?
My personal opinion here...

If a product... any product... is no nicotine and no tobacco, then it's a completely acceptable tool to use while posting roll here.
I would agree with Chews. But for some reason, I have a harder time accepting the use of fake cigs. Don't know why. Just seems like it would be harder to put down once you made it through the roughest part of quitting.

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Re: General Discussion - 2013
« Reply #401 on: July 01, 2013, 02:20:00 PM »
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Re: General Discussion - 2013
« Reply #400 on: July 01, 2013, 01:56:00 PM »
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I've seen these in the store but the only box of cartridges available at that store clearly said no nicotine. I never smoked but for those who did, would you all agree if there is no nic, it would be acceptable? It seems like the same idea as fake chew. Any thoughts?
My personal opinion here...

If a product... any product... is no nicotine and no tobacco, then it's a completely acceptable tool to use while posting roll here.
"Every man dies... not every man really lives." - William Wallace

QD - 7.24.06 / HOF - 10.31.06 / 2nd - 2.08.07 / 3rd - 5.19.07 / 4th - 8.27.07 / 5th - 12.05.07 / 6th - 3.14.08 / 7th - 6.22.08 / 8th - 9.30.08 / 9th - 1.08.09 / Comma - 4.18.09 / 11th - 7.27.09 / 12th - 11.04.09 / 13th - 2.12.10 / 14th - 05.23.10 / 15th - 08.31.2010 / 16th - 12.9.10 / 17th - 3.19.11 / 18th - 6.27.11 / 19th - 10.5.11 / 2K - 1.13.12 / 21st - 4.22.12 / 22nd - 7.31.12 / 23rd - 11.8.12 / 24th - 2.16.13 / 25th - 5.27.13 / 26th - 9.4.13 / 27th - 12.12.13 / 28th - 3.24.14 / 29th - 7.1.14 / 3K - 10.9.14 / 31st - 1.17.15 / 32nd - 4.27.15 / 33rd - 8.5.15 / 34th - 9.13.15 / 35th - 2.21.16 / 36th - 5.31.16 / 37th - 9.8.16 / 38th - 12.17.16 / 39th - 3.27.17 / 4K - 7.5.17 / 41st - 10.13.17 / 42nd - 1.21.18 / 43rd - 5.1.18 / 44th - 8.9.18 / 45th - 11.17.18 / 46th - 2.25.19 / 47th - 6.5.19 / 48th - 9.13.19 / 49th - 12.22.19 / 5K - 4.1.20 / 51st - 7.9.20 / 52nd - 10.17.20 / 53rd - 1.25.21 / 54th - 5.5.21 / 55th - 8.13.21 / 56th - 11.21.21 / 57th - 3.1.22 / 58th - 6.9.22 / 59th - 9.17.22 / 6K - 12.26.22 / 61st - 4.5.23 / 62nd - 7.14.23 / 63rd - 10.22.23 / 64th - 1.20.24 / 65th - 5.9.24 / 66th - 8.17.24 / 67th - 11.25.24

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Re: General Discussion - 2013
« Reply #399 on: July 01, 2013, 01:17:00 PM »
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So now here comes the Irony.  Not sure if you have seen this commercial but the war on tobacco just stepped up. 

Bullshit Commercial

Good looking guy "The kind of guy everyone likes to be around"  with some attitude saying that he is tired of feeling guilty because he wants to smoke?  He is rallying all the nicotine addicts to "Take back Their Freedom" 

FUCK THEM.  They lie, deceive and don't give a shit about you as a customer.  They want you hooked.  Freedom is not adjusting your day/life to get a fix. 

I no longer am forced take drives to get away from family to hump a nic bitch.  I no longer accidentally drink out of a diet coke spittoon thinking it was my diet coke.
I no longer lie so I can go to the gas station to get my drug of choice.  Nicotine you lying bitch.  You were and are a captor and enslave good people to lie, deny and be less of a person.  Numb them to cope and not achieve.  Bullshit!  Serving nictoine is pointless and the opposite of freedom.       

Each blu cig has 24 gms of nicotine.  That means its addictive and they want to take your freedom back.  Healthy alternative?  How about just being quit?   

I quit and don't need to take back my freedom because today, 

I AM FREE


Seriously UST, the supporters and sympathizers....FUCK YOU!  'Finger'
What a load of crap
Might as well as put a nicotine syringe in your arm. What a line of bullshit!!! I keep getting emails offering me free E cig kits. Fuckers!!!!
I have a friend that "quit smoking" a few months ago. She is the mom of my son's buddy at school. She has turned to the e-cig as an alternative and is now profoundly addicted to nicotine even way beyond what she was as a smoker. Some of her friends call it her crack pipe. They are only kidding her in a friendly way but there is really nothing funny about it all. For months now I have not seen her without it in her hand. She takes a long drag every minute or two, sometimes more. My heart is so saddened for her, and I fear there is now no way out for her. She proclaims to be happy and proud of herself for quitting smoking. Wish I knew how to approach her
Quote from: wikipedia
Stockholm syndrome, or capture–bonding, is a psychological phenomenon in which hostages express empathy and sympathy and have positive feelings toward their captors, sometimes to the point of defending them. These feelings are generally considered irrational in light of the danger or risk endured by the victims, who essentially mistake a lack of abuse from their captors for an act of kindness. The FBI's Hostage Barricade Database System shows that roughly 27% of victims show evidence of Stockholm syndrome.
Stockholm syndrome can be seen as a form of traumatic bonding, which does not necessarily require a hostage scenario, but which describes “strong emotional ties that develop between two persons where one person intermittently harasses, beats, threatens, abuses, or intimidates the other.” One commonly used hypothesis to explain the effect of Stockholm syndrome is based on Freudian theory. It suggests that the bonding is the individual’s response to trauma in becoming a victim. Identifying with the aggressor is one way that the ego defends itself. When a victim believes the same values as the aggressor, they cease to be a threat.
So Mr. Too Cool is tired of feeling guilty for "wanting a smoke"?

HA!

He wants people to validate his behavior.

You see, his whole existence is dependent upon fitting in with people. He doesn't even know who he is anymore because this "smoking" fad is making him an outcast now. He's afraid to be himself as a user, and he's afraid to be free. He's a "victim" because people don't approve of his behavior.

True freedom is being who you want to be.

If you want to be a user, ain't nobody stopping you. Quitting and using both require a decision, and actions to back that decision up. As a quitter, I choose to show up here everyday. As a quitter, I choose to plan to be quit. As a quitter, I follow through on my actions.

This man is not free. He has simply put up some nice drapes and some hippy beads over the bars in his cell. He's looking out the window and telling the people on the outside how nice his prison is. He doesn't know that he can leave anytime he wants because he's "content".

I took back my freedom.

He found a nicer cell.
I dunno what the answer is. I was able to get a buddy here and he Quit. He doesn't post roll, but he bought into the acountability thing.

He was ready.

I have another freind who still smokes. Last time I talked to him, he gave me the, 'I just really like smoking' BS.

He's not ready.
Switching shackles doesn't set a person free!
Keddy, that's a cool statement. I am going to be out of town where internet and cell phones do not exist. Forgive me for looking forward but the only way you can gauge a mans future is to look at his past. I think I'm safe to congratulate you on 4 digits.

Just wanted to say,

Thank you for quitting every damn day with us!
Thanks MT! I don't take any day for granted but I do have my sights on the comma. It's my privilege to quit with you guys.

Where are you going?
I am very anti-nrt. My mother was diagnosed with emphysema and started chewing the gum. She chewed it up to her death, litteraly. The nurse found several pieces of it in her mouth after she had died.

I hate tobacco companies, I hate "therapists" that believe you can change the delivery method of a drug/talk about it.

I love this site.
I've seen these in the store but the only box of cartridges available at that store clearly said no nicotine. I never smoked but for those who did, would you all agree if there is no nic, it would be acceptable? It seems like the same idea as fake chew. Any thoughts?

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Re: General Discussion - 2013
« Reply #398 on: June 30, 2013, 11:50:00 PM »
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Quote from: Mthomas3824
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So now here comes the Irony.  Not sure if you have seen this commercial but the war on tobacco just stepped up. 

Bullshit Commercial

Good looking guy "The kind of guy everyone likes to be around"  with some attitude saying that he is tired of feeling guilty because he wants to smoke?  He is rallying all the nicotine addicts to "Take back Their Freedom" 

FUCK THEM.  They lie, deceive and don't give a shit about you as a customer.  They want you hooked.  Freedom is not adjusting your day/life to get a fix. 

I no longer am forced take drives to get away from family to hump a nic bitch.  I no longer accidentally drink out of a diet coke spittoon thinking it was my diet coke.
I no longer lie so I can go to the gas station to get my drug of choice.  Nicotine you lying bitch.  You were and are a captor and enslave good people to lie, deny and be less of a person.  Numb them to cope and not achieve.  Bullshit!  Serving nictoine is pointless and the opposite of freedom.       

Each blu cig has 24 gms of nicotine.  That means its addictive and they want to take your freedom back.  Healthy alternative?  How about just being quit?   

I quit and don't need to take back my freedom because today, 

I AM FREE


Seriously UST, the supporters and sympathizers....FUCK YOU!  'Finger'
What a load of crap
Might as well as put a nicotine syringe in your arm. What a line of bullshit!!! I keep getting emails offering me free E cig kits. Fuckers!!!!
I have a friend that "quit smoking" a few months ago. She is the mom of my son's buddy at school. She has turned to the e-cig as an alternative and is now profoundly addicted to nicotine even way beyond what she was as a smoker. Some of her friends call it her crack pipe. They are only kidding her in a friendly way but there is really nothing funny about it all. For months now I have not seen her without it in her hand. She takes a long drag every minute or two, sometimes more. My heart is so saddened for her, and I fear there is now no way out for her. She proclaims to be happy and proud of herself for quitting smoking. Wish I knew how to approach her
Quote from: wikipedia
Stockholm syndrome, or capture–bonding, is a psychological phenomenon in which hostages express empathy and sympathy and have positive feelings toward their captors, sometimes to the point of defending them. These feelings are generally considered irrational in light of the danger or risk endured by the victims, who essentially mistake a lack of abuse from their captors for an act of kindness. The FBI's Hostage Barricade Database System shows that roughly 27% of victims show evidence of Stockholm syndrome.
Stockholm syndrome can be seen as a form of traumatic bonding, which does not necessarily require a hostage scenario, but which describes “strong emotional ties that develop between two persons where one person intermittently harasses, beats, threatens, abuses, or intimidates the other.” One commonly used hypothesis to explain the effect of Stockholm syndrome is based on Freudian theory. It suggests that the bonding is the individual’s response to trauma in becoming a victim. Identifying with the aggressor is one way that the ego defends itself. When a victim believes the same values as the aggressor, they cease to be a threat.
So Mr. Too Cool is tired of feeling guilty for "wanting a smoke"?

HA!

He wants people to validate his behavior.

You see, his whole existence is dependent upon fitting in with people. He doesn't even know who he is anymore because this "smoking" fad is making him an outcast now. He's afraid to be himself as a user, and he's afraid to be free. He's a "victim" because people don't approve of his behavior.

True freedom is being who you want to be.

If you want to be a user, ain't nobody stopping you. Quitting and using both require a decision, and actions to back that decision up. As a quitter, I choose to show up here everyday. As a quitter, I choose to plan to be quit. As a quitter, I follow through on my actions.

This man is not free. He has simply put up some nice drapes and some hippy beads over the bars in his cell. He's looking out the window and telling the people on the outside how nice his prison is. He doesn't know that he can leave anytime he wants because he's "content".

I took back my freedom.

He found a nicer cell.
I dunno what the answer is. I was able to get a buddy here and he Quit. He doesn't post roll, but he bought into the acountability thing.

He was ready.

I have another freind who still smokes. Last time I talked to him, he gave me the, 'I just really like smoking' BS.

He's not ready.
Switching shackles doesn't set a person free!
Keddy, that's a cool statement. I am going to be out of town where internet and cell phones do not exist. Forgive me for looking forward but the only way you can gauge a mans future is to look at his past. I think I'm safe to congratulate you on 4 digits.

Just wanted to say,

Thank you for quitting every damn day with us!
Thanks MT! I don't take any day for granted but I do have my sights on the comma. It's my privilege to quit with you guys.

Where are you going?
I am very anti-nrt. My mother was diagnosed with emphysema and started chewing the gum. She chewed it up to her death, litteraly. The nurse found several pieces of it in her mouth after she had died.

I hate tobacco companies, I hate "therapists" that believe you can change the delivery method of a drug/talk about it.

I love this site.

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Re: General Discussion - 2013
« Reply #397 on: June 28, 2013, 09:53:00 PM »
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So now here comes the Irony.  Not sure if you have seen this commercial but the war on tobacco just stepped up. 

Bullshit Commercial

Good looking guy "The kind of guy everyone likes to be around"  with some attitude saying that he is tired of feeling guilty because he wants to smoke?  He is rallying all the nicotine addicts to "Take back Their Freedom" 

FUCK THEM.  They lie, deceive and don't give a shit about you as a customer.  They want you hooked.  Freedom is not adjusting your day/life to get a fix. 

I no longer am forced take drives to get away from family to hump a nic bitch.  I no longer accidentally drink out of a diet coke spittoon thinking it was my diet coke.
I no longer lie so I can go to the gas station to get my drug of choice.  Nicotine you lying bitch.  You were and are a captor and enslave good people to lie, deny and be less of a person.  Numb them to cope and not achieve.  Bullshit!  Serving nictoine is pointless and the opposite of freedom.       

Each blu cig has 24 gms of nicotine.  That means its addictive and they want to take your freedom back.  Healthy alternative?  How about just being quit?   

I quit and don't need to take back my freedom because today, 

I AM FREE


Seriously UST, the supporters and sympathizers....FUCK YOU!  'Finger'
What a load of crap
Might as well as put a nicotine syringe in your arm. What a line of bullshit!!! I keep getting emails offering me free E cig kits. Fuckers!!!!
I have a friend that "quit smoking" a few months ago. She is the mom of my son's buddy at school. She has turned to the e-cig as an alternative and is now profoundly addicted to nicotine even way beyond what she was as a smoker. Some of her friends call it her crack pipe. They are only kidding her in a friendly way but there is really nothing funny about it all. For months now I have not seen her without it in her hand. She takes a long drag every minute or two, sometimes more. My heart is so saddened for her, and I fear there is now no way out for her. She proclaims to be happy and proud of herself for quitting smoking. Wish I knew how to approach her
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Stockholm syndrome, or capture–bonding, is a psychological phenomenon in which hostages express empathy and sympathy and have positive feelings toward their captors, sometimes to the point of defending them. These feelings are generally considered irrational in light of the danger or risk endured by the victims, who essentially mistake a lack of abuse from their captors for an act of kindness. The FBI's Hostage Barricade Database System shows that roughly 27% of victims show evidence of Stockholm syndrome.
Stockholm syndrome can be seen as a form of traumatic bonding, which does not necessarily require a hostage scenario, but which describes “strong emotional ties that develop between two persons where one person intermittently harasses, beats, threatens, abuses, or intimidates the other.” One commonly used hypothesis to explain the effect of Stockholm syndrome is based on Freudian theory. It suggests that the bonding is the individual’s response to trauma in becoming a victim. Identifying with the aggressor is one way that the ego defends itself. When a victim believes the same values as the aggressor, they cease to be a threat.
So Mr. Too Cool is tired of feeling guilty for "wanting a smoke"?

HA!

He wants people to validate his behavior.

You see, his whole existence is dependent upon fitting in with people. He doesn't even know who he is anymore because this "smoking" fad is making him an outcast now. He's afraid to be himself as a user, and he's afraid to be free. He's a "victim" because people don't approve of his behavior.

True freedom is being who you want to be.

If you want to be a user, ain't nobody stopping you. Quitting and using both require a decision, and actions to back that decision up. As a quitter, I choose to show up here everyday. As a quitter, I choose to plan to be quit. As a quitter, I follow through on my actions.

This man is not free. He has simply put up some nice drapes and some hippy beads over the bars in his cell. He's looking out the window and telling the people on the outside how nice his prison is. He doesn't know that he can leave anytime he wants because he's "content".

I took back my freedom.

He found a nicer cell.
I dunno what the answer is. I was able to get a buddy here and he Quit. He doesn't post roll, but he bought into the acountability thing.

He was ready.

I have another freind who still smokes. Last time I talked to him, he gave me the, 'I just really like smoking' BS.

He's not ready.
Switching shackles doesn't set a person free!
Keddy, that's a cool statement. I am going to be out of town where internet and cell phones do not exist. Forgive me for looking forward but the only way you can gauge a mans future is to look at his past. I think I'm safe to congratulate you on 4 digits.

Just wanted to say,

Thank you for quitting every damn day with us!
Thanks MT! I don't take any day for granted but I do have my sights on the comma. It's my privilege to quit with you guys.

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Re: General Discussion - 2013
« Reply #396 on: June 28, 2013, 12:08:00 PM »
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So now here comes the Irony.  Not sure if you have seen this commercial but the war on tobacco just stepped up. 

Bullshit Commercial

Good looking guy "The kind of guy everyone likes to be around"  with some attitude saying that he is tired of feeling guilty because he wants to smoke?  He is rallying all the nicotine addicts to "Take back Their Freedom" 

FUCK THEM.  They lie, deceive and don't give a shit about you as a customer.  They want you hooked.  Freedom is not adjusting your day/life to get a fix. 

I no longer am forced take drives to get away from family to hump a nic bitch.  I no longer accidentally drink out of a diet coke spittoon thinking it was my diet coke.
I no longer lie so I can go to the gas station to get my drug of choice.  Nicotine you lying bitch.  You were and are a captor and enslave good people to lie, deny and be less of a person.  Numb them to cope and not achieve.  Bullshit!  Serving nictoine is pointless and the opposite of freedom.       

Each blu cig has 24 gms of nicotine.  That means its addictive and they want to take your freedom back.  Healthy alternative?  How about just being quit?   

I quit and don't need to take back my freedom because today, 

I AM FREE


Seriously UST, the supporters and sympathizers....FUCK YOU!  'Finger'
What a load of crap
Might as well as put a nicotine syringe in your arm. What a line of bullshit!!! I keep getting emails offering me free E cig kits. Fuckers!!!!
I have a friend that "quit smoking" a few months ago. She is the mom of my son's buddy at school. She has turned to the e-cig as an alternative and is now profoundly addicted to nicotine even way beyond what she was as a smoker. Some of her friends call it her crack pipe. They are only kidding her in a friendly way but there is really nothing funny about it all. For months now I have not seen her without it in her hand. She takes a long drag every minute or two, sometimes more. My heart is so saddened for her, and I fear there is now no way out for her. She proclaims to be happy and proud of herself for quitting smoking. Wish I knew how to approach her
Quote from: wikipedia
Stockholm syndrome, or capture–bonding, is a psychological phenomenon in which hostages express empathy and sympathy and have positive feelings toward their captors, sometimes to the point of defending them. These feelings are generally considered irrational in light of the danger or risk endured by the victims, who essentially mistake a lack of abuse from their captors for an act of kindness. The FBI's Hostage Barricade Database System shows that roughly 27% of victims show evidence of Stockholm syndrome.
Stockholm syndrome can be seen as a form of traumatic bonding, which does not necessarily require a hostage scenario, but which describes “strong emotional ties that develop between two persons where one person intermittently harasses, beats, threatens, abuses, or intimidates the other.” One commonly used hypothesis to explain the effect of Stockholm syndrome is based on Freudian theory. It suggests that the bonding is the individual’s response to trauma in becoming a victim. Identifying with the aggressor is one way that the ego defends itself. When a victim believes the same values as the aggressor, they cease to be a threat.
So Mr. Too Cool is tired of feeling guilty for "wanting a smoke"?

HA!

He wants people to validate his behavior.

You see, his whole existence is dependent upon fitting in with people. He doesn't even know who he is anymore because this "smoking" fad is making him an outcast now. He's afraid to be himself as a user, and he's afraid to be free. He's a "victim" because people don't approve of his behavior.

True freedom is being who you want to be.

If you want to be a user, ain't nobody stopping you. Quitting and using both require a decision, and actions to back that decision up. As a quitter, I choose to show up here everyday. As a quitter, I choose to plan to be quit. As a quitter, I follow through on my actions.

This man is not free. He has simply put up some nice drapes and some hippy beads over the bars in his cell. He's looking out the window and telling the people on the outside how nice his prison is. He doesn't know that he can leave anytime he wants because he's "content".

I took back my freedom.

He found a nicer cell.
I dunno what the answer is. I was able to get a buddy here and he Quit. He doesn't post roll, but he bought into the acountability thing.

He was ready.

I have another freind who still smokes. Last time I talked to him, he gave me the, 'I just really like smoking' BS.

He's not ready.
Switching shackles doesn't set a person free!
Keddy, that's a cool statement. I am going to be out of town where internet and cell phones do not exist. Forgive me for looking forward but the only way you can gauge a mans future is to look at his past. I think I'm safe to congratulate you on 4 digits.

Just wanted to say,

Thank you for quitting every damn day with us!
Quit And Be Free

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Re: General Discussion - 2013
« Reply #395 on: June 26, 2013, 08:52:00 AM »
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"Every man dies... not every man really lives." - William Wallace

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Re: General Discussion - 2013
« Reply #394 on: June 26, 2013, 08:51:00 AM »
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Awesome. Just saw the pic of the cake. That thing is kickass.

Thanks for sharing chews2002.
Yep... that cake was pretty tremendous wasn't it?

Amazing some of the support that's given. Amazing indeed.
"Every man dies... not every man really lives." - William Wallace

QD - 7.24.06 / HOF - 10.31.06 / 2nd - 2.08.07 / 3rd - 5.19.07 / 4th - 8.27.07 / 5th - 12.05.07 / 6th - 3.14.08 / 7th - 6.22.08 / 8th - 9.30.08 / 9th - 1.08.09 / Comma - 4.18.09 / 11th - 7.27.09 / 12th - 11.04.09 / 13th - 2.12.10 / 14th - 05.23.10 / 15th - 08.31.2010 / 16th - 12.9.10 / 17th - 3.19.11 / 18th - 6.27.11 / 19th - 10.5.11 / 2K - 1.13.12 / 21st - 4.22.12 / 22nd - 7.31.12 / 23rd - 11.8.12 / 24th - 2.16.13 / 25th - 5.27.13 / 26th - 9.4.13 / 27th - 12.12.13 / 28th - 3.24.14 / 29th - 7.1.14 / 3K - 10.9.14 / 31st - 1.17.15 / 32nd - 4.27.15 / 33rd - 8.5.15 / 34th - 9.13.15 / 35th - 2.21.16 / 36th - 5.31.16 / 37th - 9.8.16 / 38th - 12.17.16 / 39th - 3.27.17 / 4K - 7.5.17 / 41st - 10.13.17 / 42nd - 1.21.18 / 43rd - 5.1.18 / 44th - 8.9.18 / 45th - 11.17.18 / 46th - 2.25.19 / 47th - 6.5.19 / 48th - 9.13.19 / 49th - 12.22.19 / 5K - 4.1.20 / 51st - 7.9.20 / 52nd - 10.17.20 / 53rd - 1.25.21 / 54th - 5.5.21 / 55th - 8.13.21 / 56th - 11.21.21 / 57th - 3.1.22 / 58th - 6.9.22 / 59th - 9.17.22 / 6K - 12.26.22 / 61st - 4.5.23 / 62nd - 7.14.23 / 63rd - 10.22.23 / 64th - 1.20.24 / 65th - 5.9.24 / 66th - 8.17.24 / 67th - 11.25.24

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