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JLuck13

It's funny how i used to stay away from the horrer stories like gwynn, kelly, rick bender and others when i used to dip. But now i cling onto these stories because this is the reality of doing this stuff. You can try to avoid consequences all your life but it will eventually come back to get you if not taken care of. I've always tried to plan when i'm going to quit. Maybe 6 months from now, 1 year, 2 year. But the longer i waited, the harder it was for me to quit and the higher the risk i put myself in of getting cancer.

There has been some that dipped for years and hasnt had any major problem, others unfortunately did. But for us personally, we dont know if it could happen to us because we dont know our future. So the question is... is it worth the risk?

BransonB

Im right with you time wise. Today is my 3rd day. It does get easier. Good luck and dont cave. I had a massive craving last night but it went away after about 10 mins. I just read some posts on here until it did. This site will remind you the reason that you are quitting.

chewie

Quote from: lighty7
Quote from: chewieJim Kelly's human side proving to be far greater than his impressive career
http://www.cbssports.com/general/writer ... ive-career

KELLY... TOUGH.
I saw the piece during the HOF game and had no idea they had removed a whole side of his jaw. Crazy stuff.

I've never heard a straight answer as to whether his cancer is from chewing? Do we know?
I don't think I've seen a definitive "answer" to that question either. Doctors (in general) hate to go on reocord with anything definitive.

What I can say is this... both Kelly  Gwynn were regular dippers for years.

Both Kelly  Gwynn have / had cancer.

Draw your own conclusions. I know I have.
"Every man dies... not every man really lives." - William Wallace

QD - 7.24.06 / HOF - 10.31.06 / 2nd - 2.08.07 / 3rd - 5.19.07 / 4th - 8.27.07 / 5th - 12.05.07 / 6th - 3.14.08 / 7th - 6.22.08 / 8th - 9.30.08 / 9th - 1.08.09 / Comma - 4.18.09 / 11th - 7.27.09 / 12th - 11.04.09 / 13th - 2.12.10 / 14th - 05.23.10 / 15th - 08.31.2010 / 16th - 12.9.10 / 17th - 3.19.11 / 18th - 6.27.11 / 19th - 10.5.11 / 2K - 1.13.12 / 21st - 4.22.12 / 22nd - 7.31.12 / 23rd - 11.8.12 / 24th - 2.16.13 / 25th - 5.27.13 / 26th - 9.4.13 / 27th - 12.12.13 / 28th - 3.24.14 / 29th - 7.1.14 / 3K - 10.9.14 / 31st - 1.17.15 / 32nd - 4.27.15 / 33rd - 8.5.15 / 34th - 9.13.15 / 35th - 2.21.16 / 36th - 5.31.16 / 37th - 9.8.16 / 38th - 12.17.16 / 39th - 3.27.17 / 4K - 7.5.17 / 41st - 10.13.17 / 42nd - 1.21.18 / 43rd - 5.1.18 / 44th - 8.9.18 / 45th - 11.17.18 / 46th - 2.25.19 / 47th - 6.5.19 / 48th - 9.13.19 / 49th - 12.22.19 / 5K - 4.1.20 / 51st - 7.9.20 / 52nd - 10.17.20 / 53rd - 1.25.21 / 54th - 5.5.21 / 55th - 8.13.21 / 56th - 11.21.21 / 57th - 3.1.22 / 58th - 6.9.22 / 59th - 9.17.22 / 6K - 12.26.22 / 61st - 4.5.23 / 62nd - 7.14.23 / 63rd - 10.22.23 / 64th - 1.20.24 / 65th - 5.9.24 / 66th - 8.17.24 / 67th - 11.25.24 / 68th - 3.5.25 / 69th - 6.13.25 / 7K - 9.21.25 / 71st - 12.30.25 / 72nd - 4.9.26

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lighty7

Quote from: chewieJim Kelly's human side proving to be far greater than his impressive career
http://www.cbssports.com/general/writer ... ive-career

KELLY... TOUGH.
I saw the piece during the HOF game and had no idea they had removed a whole side of his jaw. Crazy stuff.

I've never heard a straight answer as to whether his cancer is from chewing? Do we know?

Lao

Quote from: Keddy
Quote from: chewieJim Kelly's human side proving to be far greater than his impressive career
http://www.cbssports.com/general/writer ... ive-career

KELLY... TOUGH.
Indeed!
Day 2 not as bad as i expected....still going strong! Day 2 no nic!!!

Flannywho

2nd day. Very tough. Been reading as much as I can on this site. Very glad I came across it. I know I am not alone. Have tried before but have failed every time. Need all the support I can get. Hope I am posting this correctly because my head is in a fog and hurts pretty bad. One day at a time.

Keddy

Quote from: chewieJim Kelly's human side proving to be far greater than his impressive career
http://www.cbssports.com/general/writer ... ive-career

KELLY... TOUGH.
Indeed!

chewie

Jim Kelly's human side proving to be far greater than his impressive career
http://www.cbssports.com/general/writer ... ive-career

KELLY... TOUGH.
"Every man dies... not every man really lives." - William Wallace

QD - 7.24.06 / HOF - 10.31.06 / 2nd - 2.08.07 / 3rd - 5.19.07 / 4th - 8.27.07 / 5th - 12.05.07 / 6th - 3.14.08 / 7th - 6.22.08 / 8th - 9.30.08 / 9th - 1.08.09 / Comma - 4.18.09 / 11th - 7.27.09 / 12th - 11.04.09 / 13th - 2.12.10 / 14th - 05.23.10 / 15th - 08.31.2010 / 16th - 12.9.10 / 17th - 3.19.11 / 18th - 6.27.11 / 19th - 10.5.11 / 2K - 1.13.12 / 21st - 4.22.12 / 22nd - 7.31.12 / 23rd - 11.8.12 / 24th - 2.16.13 / 25th - 5.27.13 / 26th - 9.4.13 / 27th - 12.12.13 / 28th - 3.24.14 / 29th - 7.1.14 / 3K - 10.9.14 / 31st - 1.17.15 / 32nd - 4.27.15 / 33rd - 8.5.15 / 34th - 9.13.15 / 35th - 2.21.16 / 36th - 5.31.16 / 37th - 9.8.16 / 38th - 12.17.16 / 39th - 3.27.17 / 4K - 7.5.17 / 41st - 10.13.17 / 42nd - 1.21.18 / 43rd - 5.1.18 / 44th - 8.9.18 / 45th - 11.17.18 / 46th - 2.25.19 / 47th - 6.5.19 / 48th - 9.13.19 / 49th - 12.22.19 / 5K - 4.1.20 / 51st - 7.9.20 / 52nd - 10.17.20 / 53rd - 1.25.21 / 54th - 5.5.21 / 55th - 8.13.21 / 56th - 11.21.21 / 57th - 3.1.22 / 58th - 6.9.22 / 59th - 9.17.22 / 6K - 12.26.22 / 61st - 4.5.23 / 62nd - 7.14.23 / 63rd - 10.22.23 / 64th - 1.20.24 / 65th - 5.9.24 / 66th - 8.17.24 / 67th - 11.25.24 / 68th - 3.5.25 / 69th - 6.13.25 / 7K - 9.21.25 / 71st - 12.30.25 / 72nd - 4.9.26

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chewie

Quote from: BransonB
Quote from: chewie
Quote from: BransonBDay 1 for me today. I have been through this before. I kind of know what to expect. The last time I tried to quit I made it 5 months. I gave in to the "one little dip" lie. Within a month I was back to a can a day. that was 3 years ago, and as of yesterday I was at just under 2 cans a day. i have been chewing for almost 20 years. This will be the last time that I quit. This is also the first time that I have used a forum like this. I am hoping that the added encouragment will help me stay quit this time for good. Excuse the short choppy writing. My head is kind of messed up right now and is really starting to pound. Oh well, I did this to myself so its time to make myself quit.
Hang in there bro... you're in the right place. Welcome aboard!

chewie
Day2

A little better. Not much though. I feel a little more "spaced out" than yesterday. Finding it hard to concentrate on work. I will get through this day and tomorrow will be better. Thank you to everone for your support.
Welcome to what we refer to as "the fog". It will lift eventually, but until then you're going to feel sort of drunk. Ride it out. You're on the right track.

Here's some "fog" reading for you if you can get through it ;)

The Fog Of Quitting Dip - http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures ... tting-dip/

I'm really dizzy (foggy). How long will this last? - http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/ask ... this-last/

Nutrition When Quitting Smokeless Tobacco, Dip  Chew - http://www.killthecan.org/nutrition-whe ... -dip-chew/

chewie
"Every man dies... not every man really lives." - William Wallace

QD - 7.24.06 / HOF - 10.31.06 / 2nd - 2.08.07 / 3rd - 5.19.07 / 4th - 8.27.07 / 5th - 12.05.07 / 6th - 3.14.08 / 7th - 6.22.08 / 8th - 9.30.08 / 9th - 1.08.09 / Comma - 4.18.09 / 11th - 7.27.09 / 12th - 11.04.09 / 13th - 2.12.10 / 14th - 05.23.10 / 15th - 08.31.2010 / 16th - 12.9.10 / 17th - 3.19.11 / 18th - 6.27.11 / 19th - 10.5.11 / 2K - 1.13.12 / 21st - 4.22.12 / 22nd - 7.31.12 / 23rd - 11.8.12 / 24th - 2.16.13 / 25th - 5.27.13 / 26th - 9.4.13 / 27th - 12.12.13 / 28th - 3.24.14 / 29th - 7.1.14 / 3K - 10.9.14 / 31st - 1.17.15 / 32nd - 4.27.15 / 33rd - 8.5.15 / 34th - 9.13.15 / 35th - 2.21.16 / 36th - 5.31.16 / 37th - 9.8.16 / 38th - 12.17.16 / 39th - 3.27.17 / 4K - 7.5.17 / 41st - 10.13.17 / 42nd - 1.21.18 / 43rd - 5.1.18 / 44th - 8.9.18 / 45th - 11.17.18 / 46th - 2.25.19 / 47th - 6.5.19 / 48th - 9.13.19 / 49th - 12.22.19 / 5K - 4.1.20 / 51st - 7.9.20 / 52nd - 10.17.20 / 53rd - 1.25.21 / 54th - 5.5.21 / 55th - 8.13.21 / 56th - 11.21.21 / 57th - 3.1.22 / 58th - 6.9.22 / 59th - 9.17.22 / 6K - 12.26.22 / 61st - 4.5.23 / 62nd - 7.14.23 / 63rd - 10.22.23 / 64th - 1.20.24 / 65th - 5.9.24 / 66th - 8.17.24 / 67th - 11.25.24 / 68th - 3.5.25 / 69th - 6.13.25 / 7K - 9.21.25 / 71st - 12.30.25 / 72nd - 4.9.26

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BransonB

Quote from: chewie
Quote from: BransonBDay 1 for me today. I have been through this before. I kind of know what to expect. The last time I tried to quit I made it 5 months. I gave in to the "one little dip" lie. Within a month I was back to a can a day. that was 3 years ago, and as of yesterday I was at just under 2 cans a day. i have been chewing for almost 20 years. This will be the last time that I quit. This is also the first time that I have used a forum like this. I am hoping that the added encouragment will help me stay quit this time for good. Excuse the short choppy writing. My head is kind of messed up right now and is really starting to pound. Oh well, I did this to myself so its time to make myself quit.
Hang in there bro... you're in the right place. Welcome aboard!

chewie
Day2

A little better. Not much though. I feel a little more "spaced out" than yesterday. Finding it hard to concentrate on work. I will get through this day and tomorrow will be better. Thank you to everone for your support.

Smeds

Quote from: beardt
Quote from: Smeds
Quote from: beardtHey everyone, I never used this site to join a support group or anything like that, but I do want to thank this community for all the resources it has on this topic. I quit cold turkey on 08/01/13 and just celebrated my first year of "killing the can"! I could not have gotten to that point without the articles on many different subjects on this site and just wanted to express my gratitude to this site!
You're welcome ... and selfish ... but I'm glad you're quit. This site is more than a resource of information. If you have the tools and the desire, that's great ...but most here also rely on this family @ KTC to help us through the tough times any time it's needed. Brotherhood + Accountability. A dude having a great day in his quit pays it both forwards and backwards, realizing that without KTC ... he's signed-up for failure. A guy having a bad day knows there are brothers here for him to lean on. Even helping someone out personally helps the bad days of quit for a brother. This site is WAY more than a support group. I'm sorry you didn't stick around long enough to realize that.

Myself? I've only dipped once in my life. It started in 1982 and ended here in 2014 (it was a long fucking dip).

Congrats on the lap around the sun, a HUGE accomplishment out on your own. Maybe you could share some of the things you've learned over the last year?
Smeds, totally agree on the support of others! My intention wasn't meant to downplay that. I had a good friend that was my support as he had quit for 2 years and anytime I needed to talk he was there for me. That was more powerful for myself than relying on people that I didn't really know. I support this site and forums, quit groups, etc 110%. I just wanted to express my gratitude toward everyone in this community as there are probably many other people like myself that were silent, but used this site on bad days to get through them. Sorry if that came off wrong!
It's all good ... thanks for the clarification. I still think my quit and the quit of others would have been stronger with you here posting supports and confusions and calls for help and victories. I honestly am impressed with your one year, and think its cool KTC had a hand in it (in any shape). Later Beardt ... stay quit!
My personality is who I am, my attitude depends on who you are.

beardt

Quote from: Smeds
Quote from: beardtHey everyone, I never used this site to join a support group or anything like that, but I do want to thank this community for all the resources it has on this topic. I quit cold turkey on 08/01/13 and just celebrated my first year of "killing the can"! I could not have gotten to that point without the articles on many different subjects on this site and just wanted to express my gratitude to this site!
You're welcome ... and selfish ... but I'm glad you're quit. This site is more than a resource of information. If you have the tools and the desire, that's great ...but most here also rely on this family @ KTC to help us through the tough times any time it's needed. Brotherhood + Accountability. A dude having a great day in his quit pays it both forwards and backwards, realizing that without KTC ... he's signed-up for failure. A guy having a bad day knows there are brothers here for him to lean on. Even helping someone out personally helps the bad days of quit for a brother. This site is WAY more than a support group. I'm sorry you didn't stick around long enough to realize that.

Myself? I've only dipped once in my life. It started in 1982 and ended here in 2014 (it was a long fucking dip).

Congrats on the lap around the sun, a HUGE accomplishment out on your own. Maybe you could share some of the things you've learned over the last year?
Smeds, totally agree on the support of others! My intention wasn't meant to downplay that. I had a good friend that was my support as he had quit for 2 years and anytime I needed to talk he was there for me. That was more powerful for myself than relying on people that I didn't really know. I support this site and forums, quit groups, etc 110%. I just wanted to express my gratitude toward everyone in this community as there are probably many other people like myself that were silent, but used this site on bad days to get through them. Sorry if that came off wrong!

Smeds

Quote from: beardtHey everyone, I never used this site to join a support group or anything like that, but I do want to thank this community for all the resources it has on this topic. I quit cold turkey on 08/01/13 and just celebrated my first year of "killing the can"! I could not have gotten to that point without the articles on many different subjects on this site and just wanted to express my gratitude to this site!
You're welcome ... and selfish ... but I'm glad you're quit. This site is more than a resource of information. If you have the tools and the desire, that's great ...but most here also rely on this family @ KTC to help us through the tough times any time it's needed. Brotherhood + Accountability. A dude having a great day in his quit pays it both forwards and backwards, realizing that without KTC ... he's signed-up for failure. A guy having a bad day knows there are brothers here for him to lean on. Even helping someone out personally helps the bad days of quit for a brother. This site is WAY more than a support group. I'm sorry you didn't stick around long enough to realize that.

Myself? I've only dipped once in my life. It started in 1982 and ended here in 2014 (it was a long fucking dip).

Congrats on the lap around the sun, a HUGE accomplishment out on your own. Maybe you could share some of the things you've learned over the last year?
My personality is who I am, my attitude depends on who you are.

chewie

Quote from: beardtHey everyone, I never used this site to join a support group or anything like that, but I do want to thank this community for all the resources it has on this topic. I quit cold turkey on 08/01/13 and just celebrated my first year of "killing the can"! I could not have gotten to that point without the articles on many different subjects on this site and just wanted to express my gratitude to this site!
Thanks bear, and congrats on a year of freedom!!!
"Every man dies... not every man really lives." - William Wallace

QD - 7.24.06 / HOF - 10.31.06 / 2nd - 2.08.07 / 3rd - 5.19.07 / 4th - 8.27.07 / 5th - 12.05.07 / 6th - 3.14.08 / 7th - 6.22.08 / 8th - 9.30.08 / 9th - 1.08.09 / Comma - 4.18.09 / 11th - 7.27.09 / 12th - 11.04.09 / 13th - 2.12.10 / 14th - 05.23.10 / 15th - 08.31.2010 / 16th - 12.9.10 / 17th - 3.19.11 / 18th - 6.27.11 / 19th - 10.5.11 / 2K - 1.13.12 / 21st - 4.22.12 / 22nd - 7.31.12 / 23rd - 11.8.12 / 24th - 2.16.13 / 25th - 5.27.13 / 26th - 9.4.13 / 27th - 12.12.13 / 28th - 3.24.14 / 29th - 7.1.14 / 3K - 10.9.14 / 31st - 1.17.15 / 32nd - 4.27.15 / 33rd - 8.5.15 / 34th - 9.13.15 / 35th - 2.21.16 / 36th - 5.31.16 / 37th - 9.8.16 / 38th - 12.17.16 / 39th - 3.27.17 / 4K - 7.5.17 / 41st - 10.13.17 / 42nd - 1.21.18 / 43rd - 5.1.18 / 44th - 8.9.18 / 45th - 11.17.18 / 46th - 2.25.19 / 47th - 6.5.19 / 48th - 9.13.19 / 49th - 12.22.19 / 5K - 4.1.20 / 51st - 7.9.20 / 52nd - 10.17.20 / 53rd - 1.25.21 / 54th - 5.5.21 / 55th - 8.13.21 / 56th - 11.21.21 / 57th - 3.1.22 / 58th - 6.9.22 / 59th - 9.17.22 / 6K - 12.26.22 / 61st - 4.5.23 / 62nd - 7.14.23 / 63rd - 10.22.23 / 64th - 1.20.24 / 65th - 5.9.24 / 66th - 8.17.24 / 67th - 11.25.24 / 68th - 3.5.25 / 69th - 6.13.25 / 7K - 9.21.25 / 71st - 12.30.25 / 72nd - 4.9.26

Episode III: The Final Quit | 406 Northlane | ScareTissue.com

chewie

Quote from: BransonBDay 1 for me today. I have been through this before. I kind of know what to expect. The last time I tried to quit I made it 5 months. I gave in to the "one little dip" lie. Within a month I was back to a can a day. that was 3 years ago, and as of yesterday I was at just under 2 cans a day. i have been chewing for almost 20 years. This will be the last time that I quit. This is also the first time that I have used a forum like this. I am hoping that the added encouragment will help me stay quit this time for good. Excuse the short choppy writing. My head is kind of messed up right now and is really starting to pound. Oh well, I did this to myself so its time to make myself quit.
Hang in there bro... you're in the right place. Welcome aboard!

chewie
"Every man dies... not every man really lives." - William Wallace

QD - 7.24.06 / HOF - 10.31.06 / 2nd - 2.08.07 / 3rd - 5.19.07 / 4th - 8.27.07 / 5th - 12.05.07 / 6th - 3.14.08 / 7th - 6.22.08 / 8th - 9.30.08 / 9th - 1.08.09 / Comma - 4.18.09 / 11th - 7.27.09 / 12th - 11.04.09 / 13th - 2.12.10 / 14th - 05.23.10 / 15th - 08.31.2010 / 16th - 12.9.10 / 17th - 3.19.11 / 18th - 6.27.11 / 19th - 10.5.11 / 2K - 1.13.12 / 21st - 4.22.12 / 22nd - 7.31.12 / 23rd - 11.8.12 / 24th - 2.16.13 / 25th - 5.27.13 / 26th - 9.4.13 / 27th - 12.12.13 / 28th - 3.24.14 / 29th - 7.1.14 / 3K - 10.9.14 / 31st - 1.17.15 / 32nd - 4.27.15 / 33rd - 8.5.15 / 34th - 9.13.15 / 35th - 2.21.16 / 36th - 5.31.16 / 37th - 9.8.16 / 38th - 12.17.16 / 39th - 3.27.17 / 4K - 7.5.17 / 41st - 10.13.17 / 42nd - 1.21.18 / 43rd - 5.1.18 / 44th - 8.9.18 / 45th - 11.17.18 / 46th - 2.25.19 / 47th - 6.5.19 / 48th - 9.13.19 / 49th - 12.22.19 / 5K - 4.1.20 / 51st - 7.9.20 / 52nd - 10.17.20 / 53rd - 1.25.21 / 54th - 5.5.21 / 55th - 8.13.21 / 56th - 11.21.21 / 57th - 3.1.22 / 58th - 6.9.22 / 59th - 9.17.22 / 6K - 12.26.22 / 61st - 4.5.23 / 62nd - 7.14.23 / 63rd - 10.22.23 / 64th - 1.20.24 / 65th - 5.9.24 / 66th - 8.17.24 / 67th - 11.25.24 / 68th - 3.5.25 / 69th - 6.13.25 / 7K - 9.21.25 / 71st - 12.30.25 / 72nd - 4.9.26

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