General Discussion - 2014

[Wedge]

New Blog Post: Finding Your Quit In 2013
http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/01/find ... t-in-2013/

Well I'm on day 2 and I got to admit... It's hard as hell when you go to hang out with all your friends and they all have big ol chaws in and the smell of griz green is almost over powering. I almost broke but I stayed strong and didn't give into the temptation. Not even when they tried to force it in my lip

So you are kicking that 10 can a day habit, huh? Your girlfriend quitting with you? Or is she still a 3 can a day girl?

[wampus]

New Blog Post: Finding Your Quit In 2013
http://blog.killthecan.org/2014/01/find ... t-in-2013/

Well I'm on day 2 and I got to admit... It's hard as hell when you go to hang out with all your friends and they all have big ol chaws in and the smell of griz green is almost over powering. I almost broke but I stayed strong and didn't give into the temptation. Not even when they tried to force it in my lip

[wampus]

day 11.Ã,  when does the knot/irritation feeling go away ? feels like däy 1 excëpt slighty ẅorse . How u guys doing ?

crsrds 3 Today I resolve to get nicotine out of my system.

Um........

:huh:

Day 3 is historically one of, if not the, worst days of the quit....I'm not sure what you mean by "the knot/irritation" feeling....I do know, I was affected by the fog for a month....I was convinced that was what "normal" felt like after a while. Thankfully, I was wrong.

BTW....The irritation (with life in general) from the quit will gradually lessen....Don't take it out on your wife, kids, or dogs (cats are optional ;) )...Come in here and vent...

The Day 11 and irritation/knot in stomach is what crsds misquoted from Verachiel below (see Date and Time Stamp: March 27, 2014 at 6:50 PM).

Crsds is saying he is on Day 3 (?) and determined to get nicotine out of his system. He posted roll in July 14. He posted Day 4 on roll.

No matter...still great info you guys throw out. :wub:

Crsds and Verachiel, Day 1 was by far the worst day for me. Nothing else even came close. Many days sucked but Day 1 sucked the worst. It is different for every quitter. As far as getting nicotine out of your system, it will metabolize and work its way out. Drink lots of water and/or pure cranberry juice. I'm not sure of the exact time it takes nicotine to be completely out of your body, as some sources say 3 days, others say trace amounts of nicotine stay in your body for 14 days. Probably differs for each person. I was still having some physical withdrawals at Day 14 but they were less intense than Days 1-3.

I think NOLAQ was thinking balloon knot

Well I'm on day 2 and I got to admit... It's hard as hell when you go to hang out with all your friends and they all have big ol chaws in and the smell of griz green is almost over powering. I almost broke but I stayed strong and didn't give into the temptation. Not even when they tried to force it in my lip

[RAZD611]

day 11.Ã,  when does the knot/irritation feeling go away ? feels like däy 1 excëpt slighty ẅorse . How u guys doing ?

crsrds 3 Today I resolve to get nicotine out of my system.

Um........

:huh:

Day 3 is historically one of, if not the, worst days of the quit....I'm not sure what you mean by "the knot/irritation" feeling....I do know, I was affected by the fog for a month....I was convinced that was what "normal" felt like after a while. Thankfully, I was wrong.

BTW....The irritation (with life in general) from the quit will gradually lessen....Don't take it out on your wife, kids, or dogs (cats are optional ;) )...Come in here and vent...

The Day 11 and irritation/knot in stomach is what crsds misquoted from Verachiel below (see Date and Time Stamp: March 27, 2014 at 6:50 PM).

Crsds is saying he is on Day 3 (?) and determined to get nicotine out of his system. He posted roll in July 14. He posted Day 4 on roll.

No matter...still great info you guys throw out. :wub:

Crsds and Verachiel, Day 1 was by far the worst day for me. Nothing else even came close. Many days sucked but Day 1 sucked the worst. It is different for every quitter. As far as getting nicotine out of your system, it will metabolize and work its way out. Drink lots of water and/or pure cranberry juice. I'm not sure of the exact time it takes nicotine to be completely out of your body, as some sources say 3 days, others say trace amounts of nicotine stay in your body for 14 days. Probably differs for each person. I was still having some physical withdrawals at Day 14 but they were less intense than Days 1-3.

I think NOLAQ was thinking balloon knot

[Wt57]

Ever since I quit I've noticed a reoccurring issue that plagued me and discourages so many others. "How can I ever make this quit last forever? I've failed so many times in the past, I just don't think I can do this long term. So why suffer only to cave and return to my addiction." I fought this question longer than most do but eventually I realized one day at a time adds up and If I concentrate on now and face each challenge as it presents it's self I will remain in control. The message that is not new and nothing overwhelmingly earth shattering is what makes us successful; that's right, quit one day at a time!
I'm quit today with all of you.

[JayDubya]

day 11.Ã,  when does the knot/irritation feeling go away ? feels like däy 1 excëpt slighty ẅorse . How u guys doing ?

crsrds 3 Today I resolve to get nicotine out of my system.

Um........

:huh:

Day 3 is historically one of, if not the, worst days of the quit....I'm not sure what you mean by "the knot/irritation" feeling....I do know, I was affected by the fog for a month....I was convinced that was what "normal" felt like after a while. Thankfully, I was wrong.

BTW....The irritation (with life in general) from the quit will gradually lessen....Don't take it out on your wife, kids, or dogs (cats are optional ;) )...Come in here and vent...

The Day 11 and irritation/knot in stomach is what crsds misquoted from Verachiel below (see Date and Time Stamp: March 27, 2014 at 6:50 PM).

Crsds is saying he is on Day 3 (?) and determined to get nicotine out of his system. He posted roll in July 14. He posted Day 4 on roll.

No matter...still great info you guys throw out. :wub:

Crsds and Verachiel, Day 1 was by far the worst day for me. Nothing else even came close. Many days sucked but Day 1 sucked the worst. It is different for every quitter. As far as getting nicotine out of your system, it will metabolize and work its way out. Drink lots of water and/or pure cranberry juice. I'm not sure of the exact time it takes nicotine to be completely out of your body, as some sources say 3 days, others say trace amounts of nicotine stay in your body for 14 days. Probably differs for each person. I was still having some physical withdrawals at Day 14 but they were less intense than Days 1-3.

[Remshot]

day 11.Ã,  when does the knot/irritation feeling go away ? feels like däy 1 excëpt slighty ẅorse . How u guys doing ?

crsrds 3 Today I resolve to get nicotine out of my system.

Um........

:huh:

Day 3 is historically one of, if not the, worst days of the quit....I'm not sure what you mean by "the knot/irritation" feeling....I do know, I was affected by the fog for a month....I was convinced that was what "normal" felt like after a while. Thankfully, I was wrong.

BTW....The irritation (with life in general) from the quit will gradually lessen....Don't take it out on your wife, kids, or dogs (cats are optional ;) )...Come in here and vent...

[Nolaq]

day 11. when does the knot/irritation feeling go away ? feels like däy 1 excëpt slighty ẅorse . How u guys doing ?

crsrds 3 Today I resolve to get nicotine out of my system.

Um........

:huh:

[crsrds]

day 11. when does the knot/irritation feeling go away ? feels like däy 1 excëpt slighty ẅorse . How u guys doing ?

crsrds 3 Today I resolve to get nicotine out of my system.

[Verachiel]

day 11. when does the knot/irritation feeling go away ? feels like däy 1 excëpt slighty ẅorse . How u guys doing ?

[Nolaq]

E-Cigs study says they don't help quit nicotine

I just saw this study dissected by the masses, and the arguments are shifting quickly.Ã,  While studies are starting to poke holes in the theory that e-cigs are effective cessation devices, the argument is being tossed aside with anecdotal evidence ("I know a guy", "I'm slowly decreasing my nicotine percentage", etc) and claims of harm reduction.

Here, at the KTC, we have a no nicotine policy (in any form).Ã,  Harm reduction is not a treatment.Ã,  It is a trick.Ã,  Moist tobacco (dip) was sold under the same guise in the 70s and 80s, and look around:Ã,  There isn't a person that hasn't been harmed by it here.Ã,  Changing vehicles does not change the driver.Ã,  Addicts will abuse a drug.

At the Smokeless Summit in August, I spoke to a representative at the FDA after listening to many "experts" claim that we are "under-medicating our patients" and asking the states to protect their funding for nicotine cessation aids over support groups such as ours.Ã,  One of the points she made to me is that the product needs to declare its usage, and be treated either as a cessation aid or as a nicotine product.Ã,  (Right now, it wants it both ways.)Ã,  If it is a cessation device, studies need to be conducted affirming this.Ã,  If it is a nicotine vehicle, it needs to be regulated like tobacco products.Ã,  E-Cigs cannot promote use of a nicotine product and claim quitting benefits as well.Ã,  It's a catch-22.Ã, 

The battle's just begun folks.Ã,  The shift to smokeless tobacco users has begun, and I'm sure we're going to start seeing these "quitters" here.Ã,  As an admin here stated to me:

I look at it like this - this site is about breaking the chains of addiction to nicotine, with an emphasis on chewing tobacco as the delivery medium.

If "e-cigs" which contain nicotine, is brought up here as part of someone's quit plan - they do not meet our purpose and goal as stated above and are not to be considered quit. We have never advocated "harm reduction" or NRT's in any form. You all know that - same drug, different delivery method. Argue all they want, that ain't changing. Anyone arguing they are quit and can post roll while using e-cigs should be kindly, gently told to fuck off same as those using the patch, gum, lozenges, etc.

There's a simple, yet sometimes not easy, way to quit: Post roll. Keep your word. Repeat. Don't over think this.

We can do this.

I can't stand listening to Rush about this issue and smoking in general.

He's a slave, and ignorant.

Freedom rules.

Rush? 'oh yeah'

No. RUSH! http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/s

[rdad]

E-Cigs study says they don't help quit nicotine

I just saw this study dissected by the masses, and the arguments are shifting quickly.Ã,  While studies are starting to poke holes in the theory that e-cigs are effective cessation devices, the argument is being tossed aside with anecdotal evidence ("I know a guy", "I'm slowly decreasing my nicotine percentage", etc) and claims of harm reduction.

Here, at the KTC, we have a no nicotine policy (in any form).Ã,  Harm reduction is not a treatment.Ã,  It is a trick.Ã,  Moist tobacco (dip) was sold under the same guise in the 70s and 80s, and look around:Ã,  There isn't a person that hasn't been harmed by it here.Ã,  Changing vehicles does not change the driver.Ã,  Addicts will abuse a drug.

At the Smokeless Summit in August, I spoke to a representative at the FDA after listening to many "experts" claim that we are "under-medicating our patients" and asking the states to protect their funding for nicotine cessation aids over support groups such as ours.Ã,  One of the points she made to me is that the product needs to declare its usage, and be treated either as a cessation aid or as a nicotine product.Ã,  (Right now, it wants it both ways.)Ã,  If it is a cessation device, studies need to be conducted affirming this.Ã,  If it is a nicotine vehicle, it needs to be regulated like tobacco products.Ã,  E-Cigs cannot promote use of a nicotine product and claim quitting benefits as well.Ã,  It's a catch-22.Ã, 

The battle's just begun folks.Ã,  The shift to smokeless tobacco users has begun, and I'm sure we're going to start seeing these "quitters" here.Ã,  As an admin here stated to me:

I look at it like this - this site is about breaking the chains of addiction to nicotine, with an emphasis on chewing tobacco as the delivery medium.

If "e-cigs" which contain nicotine, is brought up here as part of someone's quit plan - they do not meet our purpose and goal as stated above and are not to be considered quit. We have never advocated "harm reduction" or NRT's in any form. You all know that - same drug, different delivery method. Argue all they want, that ain't changing. Anyone arguing they are quit and can post roll while using e-cigs should be kindly, gently told to fuck off same as those using the patch, gum, lozenges, etc.

There's a simple, yet sometimes not easy, way to quit: Post roll. Keep your word. Repeat. Don't over think this.

We can do this.

I can't stand listening to Rush about this issue and smoking in general.

He's a slave, and ignorant.

Freedom rules.

Rush? 'oh yeah'

[Nolaq]

E-Cigs study says they don't help quit nicotine

I just saw this study dissected by the masses, and the arguments are shifting quickly. While studies are starting to poke holes in the theory that e-cigs are effective cessation devices, the argument is being tossed aside with anecdotal evidence ("I know a guy", "I'm slowly decreasing my nicotine percentage", etc) and claims of harm reduction.

Here, at the KTC, we have a no nicotine policy (in any form). Harm reduction is not a treatment. It is a trick. Moist tobacco (dip) was sold under the same guise in the 70s and 80s, and look around: There isn't a person that hasn't been harmed by it here. Changing vehicles does not change the driver. Addicts will abuse a drug.

At the Smokeless Summit in August, I spoke to a representative at the FDA after listening to many "experts" claim that we are "under-medicating our patients" and asking the states to protect their funding for nicotine cessation aids over support groups such as ours. One of the points she made to me is that the product needs to declare its usage, and be treated either as a cessation aid or as a nicotine product. (Right now, it wants it both ways.) If it is a cessation device, studies need to be conducted affirming this. If it is a nicotine vehicle, it needs to be regulated like tobacco products. E-Cigs cannot promote use of a nicotine product and claim quitting benefits as well. It's a catch-22.

The battle's just begun folks. The shift to smokeless tobacco users has begun, and I'm sure we're going to start seeing these "quitters" here. As an admin here stated to me:

I look at it like this - this site is about breaking the chains of addiction to nicotine, with an emphasis on chewing tobacco as the delivery medium.

If "e-cigs" which contain nicotine, is brought up here as part of someone's quit plan - they do not meet our purpose and goal as stated above and are not to be considered quit. We have never advocated "harm reduction" or NRT's in any form. You all know that - same drug, different delivery method. Argue all they want, that ain't changing. Anyone arguing they are quit and can post roll while using e-cigs should be kindly, gently told to fuck off same as those using the patch, gum, lozenges, etc.

There's a simple, yet sometimes not easy, way to quit: Post roll. Keep your word. Repeat. Don't over think this.

We can do this.

I can't stand listening to Rush about this issue and smoking in general.

He's a slave, and ignorant.

Freedom rules.

[wastepanel]

E-Cigs study says they don't help quit nicotine

I just saw this study dissected by the masses, and the arguments are shifting quickly. While studies are starting to poke holes in the theory that e-cigs are effective cessation devices, the argument is being tossed aside with anecdotal evidence ("I know a guy", "I'm slowly decreasing my nicotine percentage", etc) and claims of harm reduction.

Here, at the KTC, we have a no nicotine policy (in any form). Harm reduction is not a treatment. It is a trick. Moist tobacco (dip) was sold under the same guise in the 70s and 80s, and look around: There isn't a person that hasn't been harmed by it here. Changing vehicles does not change the driver. Addicts will abuse a drug.

At the Smokeless Summit in August, I spoke to a representative at the FDA after listening to many "experts" claim that we are "under-medicating our patients" and asking the states to protect their funding for nicotine cessation aids over support groups such as ours. One of the points she made to me is that the product needs to declare its usage, and be treated either as a cessation aid or as a nicotine product. (Right now, it wants it both ways.) If it is a cessation device, studies need to be conducted affirming this. If it is a nicotine vehicle, it needs to be regulated like tobacco products. E-Cigs cannot promote use of a nicotine product and claim quitting benefits as well. It's a catch-22.

The battle's just begun folks. The shift to smokeless tobacco users has begun, and I'm sure we're going to start seeing these "quitters" here. As an admin here stated to me:

I look at it like this - this site is about breaking the chains of addiction to nicotine, with an emphasis on chewing tobacco as the delivery medium.

If "e-cigs" which contain nicotine, is brought up here as part of someone's quit plan - they do not meet our purpose and goal as stated above and are not to be considered quit. We have never advocated "harm reduction" or NRT's in any form. You all know that - same drug, different delivery method. Argue all they want, that ain't changing. Anyone arguing they are quit and can post roll while using e-cigs should be kindly, gently told to fuck off same as those using the patch, gum, lozenges, etc.

There's a simple, yet sometimes not easy, way to quit: Post roll. Keep your word. Repeat. Don't over think this.

We can do this.

[Greg5280]

Cautiously optimistic...

http://www.whackthepack.com/2014/03/res ... of-cancer/

#FuckCancer

This would be amazing !! I hope it does what they say it does!