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Re: davemo
« Reply #55 on: February 15, 2021, 06:54:18 PM »
Good job on 7, keep those +1s coming.
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Re: davemo
« Reply #54 on: February 12, 2021, 07:35:40 AM »
Am I ready to quit for myself? This is a difficult question.
No.
No, it isn’t a difficult question.
The fact that you’re still stuck right there is your problem. Well, among many.

You’ve lost teeth?
You’ve lost money?
You’ve been doing this dance for how long?

Dude.
Wake the hell up.
What happens when your roulette game ends up at the inevitable conclusion?

YOU... need to sac up.
YOU... need to get pissed off.
YOU... need to stop Charlie Browning through a series of stoppages.
YOU. NEED. TO. STOP. FUCKING. AROUND.

You’ve been here and know how this works. Stop “hoping” it sticks this time.
Make it happen.
Own it.
Do better.
Be better.

It’s pretty damn simple.
Damn, man... the numbers you would be sitting on make me sick. What a waste.

Yes, I agree.  Thanks for the feedback.  It's nice to see how long you've been dedicated to this site, so thanks a lot.  I will make my quite happen.

Did you read Traumagnet’s intro. He supported you until tobacco killed him. You have been given a gift now at least 3 times that he wasn’t given. Only cats get 9 lives.

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Re: davemo
« Reply #53 on: February 09, 2021, 10:11:01 AM »
Am I ready to quit for myself? This is a difficult question.
No.
No, it isn’t a difficult question.
The fact that you’re still stuck right there is your problem. Well, among many.

You’ve lost teeth?
You’ve lost money?
You’ve been doing this dance for how long?

Dude.
Wake the hell up.
What happens when your roulette game ends up at the inevitable conclusion?

YOU... need to sac up.
YOU... need to get pissed off.
YOU... need to stop Charlie Browning through a series of stoppages.
YOU. NEED. TO. STOP. FUCKING. AROUND.

You’ve been here and know how this works. Stop “hoping” it sticks this time.
Make it happen.
Own it.
Do better.
Be better.

It’s pretty damn simple.
Damn, man... the numbers you would be sitting on make me sick. What a waste.

Yes, I agree.  Thanks for the feedback.  It's nice to see how long you've been dedicated to this site, so thanks a lot.  I will make my quite happen.

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Re: davemo
« Reply #52 on: February 09, 2021, 10:04:59 AM »
Am I ready to quit for myself? This is a difficult question.
No.
No, it isn’t a difficult question.
The fact that you’re still stuck right there is your problem. Well, among many.

You’ve lost teeth?
You’ve lost money?
You’ve been doing this dance for how long?

Dude.
Wake the hell up.
What happens when your roulette game ends up at the inevitable conclusion?

YOU... need to sac up.
YOU... need to get pissed off.
YOU... need to stop Charlie Browning through a series of stoppages.
YOU. NEED. TO. STOP. FUCKING. AROUND.

You’ve been here and know how this works. Stop “hoping” it sticks this time.
Make it happen.
Own it.
Do better.
Be better.

It’s pretty damn simple.
Damn, man... the numbers you would be sitting on make me sick. What a waste.
Well, it’s one louder, isn’t it? It’s not ten.

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Re: davemo
« Reply #51 on: February 09, 2021, 09:49:08 AM »
Hey @davemo - I merged your new intro with your old one. Take some time to read back through and do some soul searching.

Your new group will be May 2021. Find the most recent roll post, hit quote, add your name and day count and then hit post.

Also, start thinking about the 3 questions:

1.) What happened?
I started up two years ago, the excuse being that I was under great stress as my mom was dying. Once started up again, I was hooked again. I recently quit after taking three months off with the usual excuse that “I’ll just have one,” which is of course a complete joke.
2.) Why did it happen?
I was quitting by myself and had no accountability.
3.) What are you going to do differently this time?
Come here for accountability every day. Probably post my daily total on the wall somewhere. Build some relationships here in order to have support.

Are ready to quit for yourself?? If you are back to quit for your family, you might want to re-prioritize your motives. Yes, our families are important but to be truly successful, you must quit for yourself first. I look forward to reading your answers to the questions.
     Am I ready to quit for myself? This is a difficult question. Rationally, I see all the evidence I need to quit and accept them. I’ve lost teeth, spend a lot of money, and risk my health. All that is obvious. Irrationally, I am still beholden to chew and I can’t resist it and feel I must be forced to quit.

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Re: davemo
« Reply #50 on: February 09, 2021, 09:33:21 AM »
Hey @davemo - I merged your new intro with your old one. Take some time to read back through and do some soul searching.

Your new group will be May 2021. Find the most recent roll post, hit quote, add your name and day count and then hit post.

Also, start thinking about the 3 questions:

1.) What happened?
2.) Why did it happen?
3.) What are you going to do differently this time?

Are ready to quit for yourself?? If you are back to quit for your family, you might want to re-prioritize your motives. Yes, our families are important but to be truly successful, you must quit for yourself first. I look forward to reading your answers to the questions.
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« Reply #49 on: February 09, 2021, 09:28:27 AM »
Hi, I’m back after a six year quit and then a two year cave. I even came back about a year ago and failed. This has become a very serious problem in my life that could lead my family to disaster. I must quit today and come here everyday to quit one more day. I don’t remember where to go to do the daily log, so please help.

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Re: davemo
« Reply #48 on: August 06, 2019, 06:14:13 AM »
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Giving an update after 17 days in. Overall, the quit has been manageable, though I get slammed with craves that penetrate all the way down to my gut and I moan with despair. It seems like the cravings have gotten worse and/or more frequent recently. Maybe the nic bitch thought I was just taking a few days off but got concerned when it seemed like I might actually be quitting. She's come back to get her lost sheep.

On the plus side, I feel like I have a structure that will keep me in quit mode. I'm doing the roll call everyday and I've been keeping in touch with other quitters via PM. I got called out by one of them for reminiscing too much which gave me a new perspective on how to deal with the quit. I'm going to follow the advice.

Additionally, I'm experiencing all the well-documented benefits of quitting. I don't have to deal with having shit in my mouth all day with all the rigmarole attached to it. I don't get the nic pisses throughout the day and just drink water and have actual real pisses. I don't buy all that shit everyday and have actually kept unspent cash in my wallet for several days in a row. I don't need to hide anything from my wife, my mouth feels clean, and I save more time in the day than I had ever expected.

The last thing I'll mention is also a question. I have been brimming with energy the past couple weeks. It is borderline bizarre. I've been a human dynamo getting lots of stuff done, feeling motivated and focused, etc. My question, then is, am I experiencing a nervous reaction to the loss of my dipping? I've heard stories of people who quit any sort of addiction and they respond with obsessive behavior, a focus on something else potentially addictive, etc.; anything to mask the burden of a quit.  OR, is this a new normal where my energy should have been all along? I've been poisoning myself for years, so I must have pushed my energy level down after so much abuse. Is this the new me?  I hope so, because it feels great.

Okay, in the meantime, I quit today, I will get up and quit tomorrow. All the rest will come as it should.  Later quitters.
If it feels great without nic in your system then I would call it good! When have we ever thought that having more energy and being productive was a bad thing? I would embrace it and run with it! Feels good to be Nic free doesn't it?!?!
Ya I have heard that too but swapping an addiction that can kill you for one that can prolong your life seems like an easy choice for me. You prolly have more energy because physiologically you body can carry more oxygen there for more juice. Same as people w sleep apnea get them a cpap machine n they become dynamos. I am w Jake if u feel good and are kicking ass not a lot wrong w that. My suggestion to you is I think you are jonseing because u feel good and are more scared of the unknown than known... in which case burn the bridge and the fucking piers too. Embrace your new energy level its the reward for removing the poison. Look at my thread day 75 I tested my quit body and went from the couch to a 5 k w no training. My body could carry more o2 so i could run w my sons.
i'M GONNA BUMP THIS FORWARD: A post to you from Trauma (RIP).  It's like he's speaking to you from beyond.  Here was a guy who was quit to the day the good lord took him, he supported you knowing full well his days were numbered.

Glad to see you back, but if you’d never left you wouldn’t have needed to return. You had my support last time and you have it now. I hope you take the time to read Traumagnet’s intro - he didn’t quit soon enough. This is no joke, Dave... the addict in us wants to feed the addiction. Winning is possible. But you gotta post daily.

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Re: davemo
« Reply #47 on: August 02, 2019, 11:48:32 AM »
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Giving an update after 17 days in. Overall, the quit has been manageable, though I get slammed with craves that penetrate all the way down to my gut and I moan with despair. It seems like the cravings have gotten worse and/or more frequent recently. Maybe the nic bitch thought I was just taking a few days off but got concerned when it seemed like I might actually be quitting. She's come back to get her lost sheep.

On the plus side, I feel like I have a structure that will keep me in quit mode. I'm doing the roll call everyday and I've been keeping in touch with other quitters via PM. I got called out by one of them for reminiscing too much which gave me a new perspective on how to deal with the quit. I'm going to follow the advice.

Additionally, I'm experiencing all the well-documented benefits of quitting. I don't have to deal with having shit in my mouth all day with all the rigmarole attached to it. I don't get the nic pisses throughout the day and just drink water and have actual real pisses. I don't buy all that shit everyday and have actually kept unspent cash in my wallet for several days in a row. I don't need to hide anything from my wife, my mouth feels clean, and I save more time in the day than I had ever expected.

The last thing I'll mention is also a question. I have been brimming with energy the past couple weeks. It is borderline bizarre. I've been a human dynamo getting lots of stuff done, feeling motivated and focused, etc. My question, then is, am I experiencing a nervous reaction to the loss of my dipping? I've heard stories of people who quit any sort of addiction and they respond with obsessive behavior, a focus on something else potentially addictive, etc.; anything to mask the burden of a quit.  OR, is this a new normal where my energy should have been all along? I've been poisoning myself for years, so I must have pushed my energy level down after so much abuse. Is this the new me?  I hope so, because it feels great.

Okay, in the meantime, I quit today, I will get up and quit tomorrow. All the rest will come as it should.  Later quitters.
If it feels great without nic in your system then I would call it good! When have we ever thought that having more energy and being productive was a bad thing? I would embrace it and run with it! Feels good to be Nic free doesn't it?!?!
Ya I have heard that too but swapping an addiction that can kill you for one that can prolong your life seems like an easy choice for me. You prolly have more energy because physiologically you body can carry more oxygen there for more juice. Same as people w sleep apnea get them a cpap machine n they become dynamos. I am w Jake if u feel good and are kicking ass not a lot wrong w that. My suggestion to you is I think you are jonseing because u feel good and are more scared of the unknown than known... in which case burn the bridge and the fucking piers too. Embrace your new energy level its the reward for removing the poison. Look at my thread day 75 I tested my quit body and went from the couch to a 5 k w no training. My body could carry more o2 so i could run w my sons.
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« Reply #46 on: August 02, 2019, 11:32:13 AM »
Hi everyone,

I'm on day 2 of phase 2 of my quit.  I quit 6 years ago and caved about 3 months ago, so here I am again.

Why?  I have theories, but in the end, I stood at the counter at 7-11, felt weak, and bought a can.  Once that happens, it isn't any different than an alcoholic.  You can't stop.

I've had a couple people encourage me to give the back story.  I'd say in the last year, my cravings kicked back in and I was getting dip dreams much more often.  Separately, my wife and I carpooled much less starting this year since I wanted to go to the gym.  Simultaneously, my mom's dementia accelerated and we had to move her out of her house she'd been living in for 50 years.  I was extremely stressed.  We also had to empty the house out to sell it and it took close to 3 months of intense labor to get it done.  I spent many nights and weekends there by myself doing the cleanup.  Between going to the gym and doing this house work, it was almost like I was a bachelor again.  Bachelors don't have any external accountability, so bachelors can do stupid things.  Still, my wife figured it out (obviously), but this time she didn't freak out on me and just let me be.  I'd have to make up my mind on my own this time... and it has been tough. 

I chose July 1 to quit, but then caved later that day.  I didn't go to KTC.  Now, August is here, and I'm at KTC, doing this for myself.  I'm depressed because I have to do this all over again, but am already glad that I'm not dealing with all the logistics, expense, and mess that you always have to manage when dipping.  Here's to a new moment of opportunity.  It's time to be free.

Lastly, thanks to Duathman who was in my original quit group.  He still had my number and texted me yesterday.  Amazing.

Here's a theory for ya.  You caved because you quit posting roll at 1173 days.  You didn't have the accountability, you're not strong enough to do it on your own, and you thought just one wouldn't hurt.  There's a reason I'm still here.  On your own, you're susceptible in a weak moment.  You're going to go through a lot of question and answer over this, and I implore you to do some deep soul searching this time and make a serious commitment.  You threw away a ton of quit on a whim.  Stupid move, and you can move on from this, but it's going to take a lot more work on your part. 

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« Reply #45 on: August 02, 2019, 10:39:45 AM »
Hi everyone,

I'm on day 2 of phase 2 of my quit.  I quit 6 years ago and caved about 3 months ago, so here I am again.

Why?  I have theories, but in the end, I stood at the counter at 7-11, felt weak, and bought a can.  Once that happens, it isn't any different than an alcoholic.  You can't stop.

I've had a couple people encourage me to give the back story.  I'd say in the last year, my cravings kicked back in and I was getting dip dreams much more often.  Separately, my wife and I carpooled much less starting this year since I wanted to go to the gym.  Simultaneously, my mom's dementia accelerated and we had to move her out of her house she'd been living in for 50 years.  I was extremely stressed.  We also had to empty the house out to sell it and it took close to 3 months of intense labor to get it done.  I spent many nights and weekends there by myself doing the cleanup.  Between going to the gym and doing this house work, it was almost like I was a bachelor again.  Bachelors don't have any external accountability, so bachelors can do stupid things.  Still, my wife figured it out (obviously), but this time she didn't freak out on me and just let me be.  I'd have to make up my mind on my own this time... and it has been tough. 

I chose July 1 to quit, but then caved later that day.  I didn't go to KTC.  Now, August is here, and I'm at KTC, doing this for myself.  I'm depressed because I have to do this all over again, but am already glad that I'm not dealing with all the logistics, expense, and mess that you always have to manage when dipping.  Here's to a new moment of opportunity.  It's time to be free.

Lastly, thanks to Duathman who was in my original quit group.  He still had my number and texted me yesterday.  Amazing.

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Re: davemo
« Reply #44 on: June 18, 2014, 12:16:00 PM »
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Dave, congratulations on achieving a milestone in your quit. It keep getting better from here... So keep the faith! I look forward to celebrating more of these milestones with you in the future. Well done!
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All day everyday with my slut. Congrats Davemo
congratulations Dave!

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« Reply #43 on: June 18, 2014, 11:59:00 AM »
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Dave, congratulations on achieving a milestone in your quit. It keep getting better from here... So keep the faith! I look forward to celebrating more of these milestones with you in the future. Well done!
'BanDog' 'BanDog' Well done on one year brother!
All day everyday with my slut. Congrats Davemo

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Re: davemo
« Reply #42 on: June 18, 2014, 08:27:00 AM »
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Dave, congratulations on achieving a milestone in your quit. It keep getting better from here... So keep the faith! I look forward to celebrating more of these milestones with you in the future. Well done!
'BanDog' 'BanDog' Well done on one year brother!

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Re: davemo
« Reply #41 on: September 28, 2013, 03:43:00 PM »
Dave, congratulations on achieving a milestone in your quit. It keep getting better from here... So keep the faith! I look forward to celebrating more of these milestones with you in the future. Well done!