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Re: better things to do
« Reply #82 on: February 07, 2012, 12:05:00 PM »
I absolutely love the responses to this. No attacks that I can see, just KTC guidance. There is no "good" excuse for caving.

Note that the "caver" in this discussion asked why we are harsh on cavers just before posting this:
Quote from: mcgillisj
Hey everyone. I had a cigeratte today. Just thought I should let everyone know. I messed up, and it won't happen again. If that means I can't be in the group, then I guess I'm out. But despite having messed up, I am committed to staying quit. I learned from this setback, and will not put myself in another situation like I did today. That's all
response 1:
Quote from: badass1
Why did you not post roll call today?

Why will this not happen again?

Why should we believe you?
caver response:
Quote from: mcgillisj
I did post roll today.
It won't happen again because I won't let it. I won't put myself in a situation where it can happen again.
I'm being honest. Everyone messes up. All you can do when you mess up and own up to it and learn from it, which is what I'm doing
Quote from: mcgillisj
One more thing, Caving does not mean I'm a failure. My addiction to nicotine never defined me, so why would I let my failure define me?
responses to the above addict speak:
Quote from: badass1
You posted roll call. Do you understand what roll call is? You promised that you would not use nicotine today. You lied to everyone here.

What was the situation you put yourself in today (which you plan on not putting yourself in again)?

Why didn't you reach out to any of your quit brothers before caving so easily?
Quote from: badass2
Not how this works, Linda. Why did you smoke? Why did you smoke after you supposedly gave a promise you would not use nicotine? Are you such a louse of a human your word means nothing? Wow. I guess that hold nic has on you has stripped you of dignity and honor. Sucks, don't it?

How bout you tell us your new plan to make sure this doesn't happen again? Cuz nobody gonna take your word for it, dat fo sho.
Quote from: some
choices.... 'bang head' not mistakes, you made a choice. 

You wont let it?  why should we believe you?  You posted roll - do you know what that means? 

Why we post roll.

Youse needs a MUCH better plan than "I wont let it."

What did you learn from this?  Why did you smoke a cigarette?  What will you do next time that happens and you want one? 

Do you have numbers from within your group yet?  Have you read up on this site yet? 

Choices cupcake.  What is your choice going to be next - stick around and save your life or complain that we are being to harsh and run back to the cancer sticks and dirt?
Quote from: badass
You define you. And you have defined yourself as someone that cannot keep their word. Ergo...you have defined yourself as a failure.
Quote from: schmuck
wrong answer butterfly - we all are/were defined by our addiction. It was part of every fucking choice we made. best you realize that or you are fucked.
Quote from: someone
I feel tired . . . (separate resposne) Should I not be slightly offended? Should I say, "aw shit man! It's tough, I really didn't expect you to keep a promise you gave to me (I'll look up the time later) just hours earliner. If you promise me again, especially if you really mean it this time, all is good." I told you that I wouldn't have nicotine today . . . period. That's the promise I'm making. The promise you gave was akin to the promises I gave myself on many a failed attempts, "attempts" where I know I wasn't accountable. My post does not look like this:

Zam - day 14. I quit today*

Of course, mcgillisj has not responded to this with a plan, nor has he (surprise surprise) posted roll today.

Folks, it aint rocket science. Make the choice - quit or do not. but please stop wasting all of our time. Either all in or fold and move on.
The problem is not the problem.  The problem is your attitude about the problem.  Do you understand?

Draw Fire

If its too much trouble to post roll call, you could always fuck off.

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Re: better things to do
« Reply #81 on: February 07, 2012, 11:44:00 AM »
Hope you all dont mind, but lately my head has been putting my quit to a soundtrack. feel free to add to it - -

edited in: anyone use spotify? thinking about a switch from Pandora, looking for something with a little more control. Any thoughts?


Good Song that puts what we say about why there is no better day to quit than today (at least the chorus and the first verse)

This song is what it sometimes feels like when quitting.

Muzzle - This is the song I related to my quit.

Artist in the Ambulance

Bro Hymn

Feeding the addiction

Anthem for the Underdog

It's not me it's you

Pantera's Walk, bitches

The Cave

I wont back down the Johnny Cash version. Cool collage video too.

OAR - War Song Lyrics

Bombtrack - nothing really to do with quitting. just that kinda day. I guess Rage fits though
The problem is not the problem.  The problem is your attitude about the problem.  Do you understand?

Draw Fire

If its too much trouble to post roll call, you could always fuck off.

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Re: better things to do
« Reply #80 on: February 01, 2012, 09:08:00 PM »
Commitment
The Chicken and the Pig


A son is complaining one day to his father over breakfast about sports practice, and how hard it is, and while he loves the sport it seems like a lot to ask.

The father looks at the son and asks "Son, are you a pig or a chicken?" The son looks on quizzically, and asks his father what he means. The father explains:

Father: "Son, look at your breakfast plate. What do you see?"
Son: "Eggs, bacon, hash browns. Whats that got to do with it?"
Father: "well, see son it goes to commitment. What it takes. The eggs come from a chicken. The bacon comes from a pig. The chicken and the pig both have a stake in your breakfast, but their is a difference. The chicken is involved in breakfast and gives eggs every day.

The pig though, see the pig is committed to breakfast. The pig dies to ensure breakfast every day.

You see the difference son?"

Apply this to your quit. Are you involved, i.e. you post roll but never get overly involved with your group or the site, and when things get tough you would consider using again because you can come back and try again later OR are you committed - are you willing to go whatever lengths necessary, because this IS life and death; you are quit, doors shut and boats burned.

That is the difference between a chicken quit and a pig quit.

Which are you?
The problem is not the problem.  The problem is your attitude about the problem.  Do you understand?

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If its too much trouble to post roll call, you could always fuck off.

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Re: better things to do
« Reply #79 on: January 20, 2012, 02:40:00 PM »
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Um....did you just make us a mix tape, j2b?

:wub:  :wub:  :wub:  :wub:  :wub:  :wub:  :wub:  :wub:
JFYRTYSOB
Just For You RT You Sexy Ole Beast?

'crackup'
'arse' close enough...

SOB 'crackup'
Edit...wrong spot.

'embarrassed'

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Re: better things to do
« Reply #78 on: January 20, 2012, 02:24:00 PM »
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Quote from: jost2brown
Quote from: redtrain14
Um....did you just make us a mix tape, j2b?

:wub:  :wub:  :wub:  :wub:  :wub:  :wub:  :wub:  :wub:
JFYRTYSOB
Just For You RT You Sexy Ole Beast?

'crackup'
'arse' close enough...

SOB 'crackup'
The problem is not the problem.  The problem is your attitude about the problem.  Do you understand?

Draw Fire

If its too much trouble to post roll call, you could always fuck off.

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Re: better things to do
« Reply #77 on: January 20, 2012, 02:22:00 PM »
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Um....did you just make us a mix tape, j2b?

:wub:  :wub:  :wub:  :wub:  :wub:  :wub:  :wub:  :wub:
JFYRTYSOB
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'crackup'

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Re: better things to do
« Reply #76 on: January 20, 2012, 02:20:00 PM »
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Um....did you just make us a mix tape, j2b?

:wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub:
JFYRTYSOB
The problem is not the problem.  The problem is your attitude about the problem.  Do you understand?

Draw Fire

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Re: better things to do
« Reply #75 on: January 20, 2012, 02:16:00 PM »
Um....did you just make us a mix tape, j2b?

:wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub:

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Re: better things to do
« Reply #74 on: January 19, 2012, 12:19:00 PM »
Hope you all dont mind, but lately my head has been putting my quit to a soundtrack. feel free to add to it - -

edited in: anyone use spotify? thinking about a switch from Pandora, looking for something with a little more control. Any thoughts?


Good Song that puts what we say about why there is no better day to quit than today (at least the chorus and the first verse)

This song is what it sometimes feels like when quitting.

Muzzle - This is the song I related to my quit.

Artist in the Ambulance

Bro Hymn

Feeding the addiction

Anthem for the Underdog

It's not me it's you

Pantera's Walk, bitches

The Cave

I wont back down the Johnny Cash version. Cool collage video too.

OAR - War Song Lyrics
The problem is not the problem.  The problem is your attitude about the problem.  Do you understand?

Draw Fire

If its too much trouble to post roll call, you could always fuck off.

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Re: better things to do
« Reply #73 on: December 29, 2011, 09:35:00 PM »
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I use spotify. I really like it.
thanks; my wife is using the free version now, and so far it seems cool but I hate the ads. Do you use the freebie or the paid?
freebie, but I don't notice the ads
Can't vouch for it either way, but have you tried lastfm?

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Re: better things to do
« Reply #72 on: December 29, 2011, 09:20:00 PM »
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I use spotify. I really like it.
thanks; my wife is using the free version now, and so far it seems cool but I hate the ads. Do you use the freebie or the paid?
freebie, but I don't notice the ads
Time heals but I'm forever broken

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Re: better things to do
« Reply #71 on: December 29, 2011, 05:26:00 PM »
Hope you all dont mind, but lately my head has been putting my quit to a soundtrack. feel free to add to it - -

edited in: anyone use spotify? thinking about a switch from Pandora, looking for something with a little more control. Any thoughts?


Good Song that puts what we say about why there is no better day to quit than today (at least the chorus and the first verse)

This song is what it sometimes feels like when quitting.

Muzzle - This is the song I related to my quit.

Artist in the Ambulance

Bro Hymn

Feeding the addiction

Anthem for the Underdog

It's not me it's you

Pantera's Walk, bitches

The Cave

I wont back down the Johnny Cash version. Cool collage video too.
The problem is not the problem.  The problem is your attitude about the problem.  Do you understand?

Draw Fire

If its too much trouble to post roll call, you could always fuck off.

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Re: better things to do
« Reply #70 on: December 29, 2011, 05:22:00 PM »
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I use spotify. I really like it.
thanks; my wife is using the free version now, and so far it seems cool but I hate the ads. Do you use the freebie or the paid?
The problem is not the problem.  The problem is your attitude about the problem.  Do you understand?

Draw Fire

If its too much trouble to post roll call, you could always fuck off.

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Re: better things to do
« Reply #69 on: December 29, 2011, 05:19:00 PM »
I use spotify. I really like it.
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Re: better things to do
« Reply #68 on: December 29, 2011, 05:09:00 PM »
Hope you all dont mind, but lately my head has been putting my quit to a soundtrack. feel free to add to it - -

edited in: anyone use spotify? thinking about a switch from Pandora, looking for something with a little more control. Any thoughts?


Good Song that puts what we say about why there is no better day to quit than today (at least the chorus and the first verse)

This song is what it sometimes feels like when quitting.

Muzzle - This is the song I related to my quit.

Artist in the Ambulance

Bro Hymn

Feeding the addiction

Anthem for the Underdog

It's not me it's you

Pantera's Walk, bitches

The Cave
The problem is not the problem.  The problem is your attitude about the problem.  Do you understand?

Draw Fire

If its too much trouble to post roll call, you could always fuck off.

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