cold turkey?

[Erussell]

Just read an awesome quote by Coach K on twitter---"Mental toughness can take you straight to the top, and mental weakness can take you straight to the bottom." We own our quits. That's mental toughness.

Hmmmmm, great thought, since quitting is all mental after 3 days I have to agree this aplies to us. Thanks for sharing Jayd

[jayd41]

Just read an awesome quote by Coach K on twitter---"Mental toughness can take you straight to the top, and mental weakness can take you straight to the bottom." We own our quits. That's mental toughness.

[AppleJack]

sco you are a sick man! and yeah AJ....i got into it with someone in the comments section in an article on yahoo.com a few days ago...saying how nicotine in itself wasn't dangerous and that is all thats in the ecigs...i have done very little research on these things so i'll take whoevers word for it but my biggest argument was the slavery to nicotine...just another thing to keep people hooked. but yeah...anything that can kill anything in such a small dose is enough to keep me away.

It's sad dude... they want their drug without any of the nasties that are the actual fallout. Idiots.

[jayd41]

sco you are a sick man! and yeah AJ....i got into it with someone in the comments section in an article on yahoo.com a few days ago...saying how nicotine in itself wasn't dangerous and that is all thats in the ecigs...i have done very little research on these things so i'll take whoevers word for it but my biggest argument was the slavery to nicotine...just another thing to keep people hooked. but yeah...anything that can kill anything in such a small dose is enough to keep me away.

[AppleJack]

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Before coming back to KTC i almost just said fuck it and bought the e-cig...i have a smoker friend that said she switched to them and felt better and blah blah blah...so glad i decided against that shit...my prediction is they find out in the near future that these are as bad or worse than regular smokes.

Plus there is nothing doucheier then seeing a grown ass man sucking on a glass dick...

If you do even a li'l research you'll find an absolute Pandora's box...

~ There's no regulation on these things. We get most of it from China and they don't have to tell us what's in their "mix".

~ They're finding traces of gnarly chemicals in the emissions... anit-freeze being one.

~ One refill vial is enough to kill a small child in minutes.

~People's homes are being burned down because chargers are failing and blowing up.

But, like you said, most important is that you look like a HUGE doosh sucking on one of these e-cig dildos!

[Scowick65]

http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-ne ... ids-n70961

Before coming back to KTC i almost just said fuck it and bought the e-cig...i have a smoker friend that said she switched to them and felt better and blah blah blah...so glad i decided against that shit...my prediction is they find out in the near future that these are as bad or worse than regular smokes.

Plus there is nothing doucheier then seeing a grown ass man sucking on a glass dick...

'bj'

[jayd41]

http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-ne ... ids-n70961

Before coming back to KTC i almost just said fuck it and bought the e-cig...i have a smoker friend that said she switched to them and felt better and blah blah blah...so glad i decided against that shit...my prediction is they find out in the near future that these are as bad or worse than regular smokes.

Plus there is nothing doucheier then seeing a grown ass man sucking on a glass dick...

[jayd41]

So its been 2 weeks since i reached out to Jake about bringing my sorry ass back here.  I'm very glad/proud that i did and its been great meeting the new people and reconnecting with some of the old...
My biggest hurdles are behind me but hurdles lie ahead i'm sure...my problems in the past at this particular point and pretty much from here on out will be cigarettes...see i always dipped and just smoked every once in awhile when i drank and what not...but smoking during my hiatus became much more of a crutch to hold up my addiction then i had let it in past.  Thing is, i have a ton of people that come into my office that just fucking wreak of smoke and it really makes me sick...i don't know why the urge f0r smoking hits so hard sometimes. I guess i am a walking example of a nicotine addict...not just a chew or cigarette addict...its easy to see no that its the nic that i'm addicted too...not just the method.

Embrace the struggles brother. I have friends that dip that are around all the time but I welcome those times when I'm confronted with being face to face with the cravings. If you struggle hard right now, welcome it because it will be easier down the road when you get through it and you'll be better equipped to deal. You can do this bro!

Agreed. You and I know the auto industry is riddled with tobacco. Most at my company chew. I see it around all the time. Thankfully its against policy to chew in the showrooms now, but it is still around. I think it makes you stronger in your quit to be able to look it in the face and say no! And those who knew you before you quit will see the change, and hopefully become inspired. Lead with it. Your kicking ass bro!

yeah jake the industry of selling cars and being addicted to nicotine...such a bad combo. Almost every aspect of the job is a trigger...there are days where it's just constant boredom, sitting in front of a computer screen, waiting for someone to come and buy a car...haggling with idiots that have shitty credit and no money....selling a car to those same people only for them to come back and bitch about the car they just bought...knowing they couldn't get credit to buy a car anywhere else. Working late only to not have a soul come onto the lot....every little thing is a trigger to make a mistake.

But this car guy's saving grace is this site...i have the ktc page up on my computer almost constantly...staying glued so i don't walk my happy ass down to the store. So whatever comes my way in the form of cravings...i've got big support and giant reminders from the bad asses to stay the course and i do...i do it for myself first but you guys are with me every step of the way...we've got giant pricks and huge assholes that piss me off but really they keep me quit out of spite...so really fuck you assholes i'm not going anywhere. Anyhow..those are jay's ramblings for today...see ya'll around these parts.

I used to think that Dipping gave me something to do. In college, I dipped when I studied late hours, then when I started working in retail pharmacy (and you can't really dip when behind the bench) and dipping was something to do when I unwound after a 12-hour shift. Then when I moved to an office job, it was something to do on the drives home, then eventually while I worked. It's always been there to fill the misconceived voids of time. And...there is the addict. Clearly having a stationary wad of nasty tasting cancer causing worm dirt in your lip and spitting into a bottle is not doing something. If anything it's doing something stupid. Doing something would actually entail physicial exertion or mental enrichment. Exercise, doing actual work, playing with the kids, reading/posting on KTC, strengthening my quit. Those are examples of doing something. The misconceived voids of boredom or daily life are not removed with nicotine...instead you're just bored and using nicotine. And again here we are: 1 problem + nicotine = 2 problems.

'clap'

I fucking love that post!

yeah i just sent that to my brother and my cousin...they both dip and i'm not trying to force anything onto them but hopefully if i drop enough knowledge in their lap they'll join me...they are my two best friends and i worry greatly about them

[jake frawley]

So its been 2 weeks since i reached out to Jake about bringing my sorry ass back here.  I'm very glad/proud that i did and its been great meeting the new people and reconnecting with some of the old...
My biggest hurdles are behind me but hurdles lie ahead i'm sure...my problems in the past at this particular point and pretty much from here on out will be cigarettes...see i always dipped and just smoked every once in awhile when i drank and what not...but smoking during my hiatus became much more of a crutch to hold up my addiction then i had let it in past.  Thing is, i have a ton of people that come into my office that just fucking wreak of smoke and it really makes me sick...i don't know why the urge f0r smoking hits so hard sometimes. I guess i am a walking example of a nicotine addict...not just a chew or cigarette addict...its easy to see no that its the nic that i'm addicted too...not just the method.

Embrace the struggles brother. I have friends that dip that are around all the time but I welcome those times when I'm confronted with being face to face with the cravings. If you struggle hard right now, welcome it because it will be easier down the road when you get through it and you'll be better equipped to deal. You can do this bro!

Agreed. You and I know the auto industry is riddled with tobacco. Most at my company chew. I see it around all the time. Thankfully its against policy to chew in the showrooms now, but it is still around. I think it makes you stronger in your quit to be able to look it in the face and say no! And those who knew you before you quit will see the change, and hopefully become inspired. Lead with it. Your kicking ass bro!

yeah jake the industry of selling cars and being addicted to nicotine...such a bad combo. Almost every aspect of the job is a trigger...there are days where it's just constant boredom, sitting in front of a computer screen, waiting for someone to come and buy a car...haggling with idiots that have shitty credit and no money....selling a car to those same people only for them to come back and bitch about the car they just bought...knowing they couldn't get credit to buy a car anywhere else. Working late only to not have a soul come onto the lot....every little thing is a trigger to make a mistake.

But this car guy's saving grace is this site...i have the ktc page up on my computer almost constantly...staying glued so i don't walk my happy ass down to the store. So whatever comes my way in the form of cravings...i've got big support and giant reminders from the bad asses to stay the course and i do...i do it for myself first but you guys are with me every step of the way...we've got giant pricks and huge assholes that piss me off but really they keep me quit out of spite...so really fuck you assholes i'm not going anywhere. Anyhow..those are jay's ramblings for today...see ya'll around these parts.

I used to think that Dipping gave me something to do. In college, I dipped when I studied late hours, then when I started working in retail pharmacy (and you can't really dip when behind the bench) and dipping was something to do when I unwound after a 12-hour shift. Then when I moved to an office job, it was something to do on the drives home, then eventually while I worked. It's always been there to fill the misconceived voids of time. And...there is the addict. Clearly having a stationary wad of nasty tasting cancer causing worm dirt in your lip and spitting into a bottle is not doing something. If anything it's doing something stupid. Doing something would actually entail physicial exertion or mental enrichment. Exercise, doing actual work, playing with the kids, reading/posting on KTC, strengthening my quit. Those are examples of doing something. The misconceived voids of boredom or daily life are not removed with nicotine...instead you're just bored and using nicotine. And again here we are: 1 problem + nicotine = 2 problems.

'clap'

I fucking love that post!

[Steakbomb18]

So its been 2 weeks since i reached out to Jake about bringing my sorry ass back here.  I'm very glad/proud that i did and its been great meeting the new people and reconnecting with some of the old...
My biggest hurdles are behind me but hurdles lie ahead i'm sure...my problems in the past at this particular point and pretty much from here on out will be cigarettes...see i always dipped and just smoked every once in awhile when i drank and what not...but smoking during my hiatus became much more of a crutch to hold up my addiction then i had let it in past.  Thing is, i have a ton of people that come into my office that just fucking wreak of smoke and it really makes me sick...i don't know why the urge f0r smoking hits so hard sometimes. I guess i am a walking example of a nicotine addict...not just a chew or cigarette addict...its easy to see no that its the nic that i'm addicted too...not just the method.

Embrace the struggles brother. I have friends that dip that are around all the time but I welcome those times when I'm confronted with being face to face with the cravings. If you struggle hard right now, welcome it because it will be easier down the road when you get through it and you'll be better equipped to deal. You can do this bro!

Agreed. You and I know the auto industry is riddled with tobacco. Most at my company chew. I see it around all the time. Thankfully its against policy to chew in the showrooms now, but it is still around. I think it makes you stronger in your quit to be able to look it in the face and say no! And those who knew you before you quit will see the change, and hopefully become inspired. Lead with it. Your kicking ass bro!

yeah jake the industry of selling cars and being addicted to nicotine...such a bad combo. Almost every aspect of the job is a trigger...there are days where it's just constant boredom, sitting in front of a computer screen, waiting for someone to come and buy a car...haggling with idiots that have shitty credit and no money....selling a car to those same people only for them to come back and bitch about the car they just bought...knowing they couldn't get credit to buy a car anywhere else. Working late only to not have a soul come onto the lot....every little thing is a trigger to make a mistake.

But this car guy's saving grace is this site...i have the ktc page up on my computer almost constantly...staying glued so i don't walk my happy ass down to the store. So whatever comes my way in the form of cravings...i've got big support and giant reminders from the bad asses to stay the course and i do...i do it for myself first but you guys are with me every step of the way...we've got giant pricks and huge assholes that piss me off but really they keep me quit out of spite...so really fuck you assholes i'm not going anywhere. Anyhow..those are jay's ramblings for today...see ya'll around these parts.

I used to think that Dipping gave me something to do. In college, I dipped when I studied late hours, then when I started working in retail pharmacy (and you can't really dip when behind the bench) and dipping was something to do when I unwound after a 12-hour shift. Then when I moved to an office job, it was something to do on the drives home, then eventually while I worked. It's always been there to fill the misconceived voids of time. And...there is the addict. Clearly having a stationary wad of nasty tasting cancer causing worm dirt in your lip and spitting into a bottle is not doing something. If anything it's doing something stupid. Doing something would actually entail physicial exertion or mental enrichment. Exercise, doing actual work, playing with the kids, reading/posting on KTC, strengthening my quit. Those are examples of doing something. The misconceived voids of boredom or daily life are not removed with nicotine...instead you're just bored and using nicotine. And again here we are: 1 problem + nicotine = 2 problems.

[jayd41]

So its been 2 weeks since i reached out to Jake about bringing my sorry ass back here.  I'm very glad/proud that i did and its been great meeting the new people and reconnecting with some of the old...
My biggest hurdles are behind me but hurdles lie ahead i'm sure...my problems in the past at this particular point and pretty much from here on out will be cigarettes...see i always dipped and just smoked every once in awhile when i drank and what not...but smoking during my hiatus became much more of a crutch to hold up my addiction then i had let it in past.  Thing is, i have a ton of people that come into my office that just fucking wreak of smoke and it really makes me sick...i don't know why the urge f0r smoking hits so hard sometimes. I guess i am a walking example of a nicotine addict...not just a chew or cigarette addict...its easy to see no that its the nic that i'm addicted too...not just the method.

Embrace the struggles brother. I have friends that dip that are around all the time but I welcome those times when I'm confronted with being face to face with the cravings. If you struggle hard right now, welcome it because it will be easier down the road when you get through it and you'll be better equipped to deal. You can do this bro!

Agreed. You and I know the auto industry is riddled with tobacco. Most at my company chew. I see it around all the time. Thankfully its against policy to chew in the showrooms now, but it is still around. I think it makes you stronger in your quit to be able to look it in the face and say no! And those who knew you before you quit will see the change, and hopefully become inspired. Lead with it. Your kicking ass bro!

yeah jake the industry of selling cars and being addicted to nicotine...such a bad combo. Almost every aspect of the job is a trigger...there are days where it's just constant boredom, sitting in front of a computer screen, waiting for someone to come and buy a car...haggling with idiots that have shitty credit and no money....selling a car to those same people only for them to come back and bitch about the car they just bought...knowing they couldn't get credit to buy a car anywhere else. Working late only to not have a soul come onto the lot....every little thing is a trigger to make a mistake.

But this car guy's saving grace is this site...i have the ktc page up on my computer almost constantly...staying glued so i don't walk my happy ass down to the store. So whatever comes my way in the form of cravings...i've got big support and giant reminders from the bad asses to stay the course and i do...i do it for myself first but you guys are with me every step of the way...we've got giant pricks and huge assholes that piss me off but really they keep me quit out of spite...so really fuck you assholes i'm not going anywhere. Anyhow..those are jay's ramblings for today...see ya'll around these parts.

[jake frawley]

So its been 2 weeks since i reached out to Jake about bringing my sorry ass back here.  I'm very glad/proud that i did and its been great meeting the new people and reconnecting with some of the old...
My biggest hurdles are behind me but hurdles lie ahead i'm sure...my problems in the past at this particular point and pretty much from here on out will be cigarettes...see i always dipped and just smoked every once in awhile when i drank and what not...but smoking during my hiatus became much more of a crutch to hold up my addiction then i had let it in past.  Thing is, i have a ton of people that come into my office that just fucking wreak of smoke and it really makes me sick...i don't know why the urge f0r smoking hits so hard sometimes. I guess i am a walking example of a nicotine addict...not just a chew or cigarette addict...its easy to see no that its the nic that i'm addicted too...not just the method.

Embrace the struggles brother. I have friends that dip that are around all the time but I welcome those times when I'm confronted with being face to face with the cravings. If you struggle hard right now, welcome it because it will be easier down the road when you get through it and you'll be better equipped to deal. You can do this bro!

Agreed. You and I know the auto industry is riddled with tobacco. Most at my company chew. I see it around all the time. Thankfully its against policy to chew in the showrooms now, but it is still around. I think it makes you stronger in your quit to be able to look it in the face and say no! And those who knew you before you quit will see the change, and hopefully become inspired. Lead with it. Your kicking ass bro!

[Sand_Fleas_Gotta_Eat]

So its been 2 weeks since i reached out to Jake about bringing my sorry ass back here. I'm very glad/proud that i did and its been great meeting the new people and reconnecting with some of the old...
My biggest hurdles are behind me but hurdles lie ahead i'm sure...my problems in the past at this particular point and pretty much from here on out will be cigarettes...see i always dipped and just smoked every once in awhile when i drank and what not...but smoking during my hiatus became much more of a crutch to hold up my addiction then i had let it in past. Thing is, i have a ton of people that come into my office that just fucking wreak of smoke and it really makes me sick...i don't know why the urge f0r smoking hits so hard sometimes. I guess i am a walking example of a nicotine addict...not just a chew or cigarette addict...its easy to see no that its the nic that i'm addicted too...not just the method.

Embrace the struggles brother. I have friends that dip that are around all the time but I welcome those times when I'm confronted with being face to face with the cravings. If you struggle hard right now, welcome it because it will be easier down the road when you get through it and you'll be better equipped to deal. You can do this bro!

[jayd41]

So its been 2 weeks since i reached out to Jake about bringing my sorry ass back here. I'm very glad/proud that i did and its been great meeting the new people and reconnecting with some of the old...
My biggest hurdles are behind me but hurdles lie ahead i'm sure...my problems in the past at this particular point and pretty much from here on out will be cigarettes...see i always dipped and just smoked every once in awhile when i drank and what not...but smoking during my hiatus became much more of a crutch to hold up my addiction then i had let it in past. Thing is, i have a ton of people that come into my office that just fucking wreak of smoke and it really makes me sick...i don't know why the urge f0r smoking hits so hard sometimes. I guess i am a walking example of a nicotine addict...not just a chew or cigarette addict...its easy to see no that its the nic that i'm addicted too...not just the method.

[jayd41]

thanks fellas