Withdrawal sux

[RAZD611]

Can I interest you in $354,000?

If you spent $5 a day on tabbacco and put that same $5 a day into a retirement account growing an average of 7% (historical average of the stock market) you would have $354,000 40 years later....

Thats a lot of payola.

'facepalm''

[30yraddict]

Can I interest you in $354,000?

If you spent $5 a day on tabbacco and put that same $5 a day into a retirement account growing an average of 7% (historical average of the stock market) you would have $354,000 40 years later....

Thats a lot of payola.

[Smeds]

Damn good article on exercise and addiction: http://sparkinglife.org/page/addiction

Bookmarked ... thanks 30.

[30yraddict]

Damn good article on exercise and addiction: http://sparkinglife.org/page/addiction

[30yraddict]

The ancient Greek warriors experienced overwhelming success on the battlefield. They were both feared and respected for their level of commitment to victory. The primary reason of their high level of commitment and success was not a special weapon, their skill or their training. The key to their commitment and overwhelming success on the battlefield had far more to do with a dramatic and effective motivation technique used by the Greek Commanders. After the Greeks invaded a new land the Greek commanders immediately order that the boats should be burned. The Greek commanders knew that the best way to instill commitment to success was to eliminate failure as an option. If they could not retreat then they would have to move forward.

Legend also has it that after the Spanish Conquistador Hernando Cortez landed his ships in Mexico in 1519, he ordered his men to burn the boats, because he was worried about their level of commitment. Cortez was totally committed and did not want to allowed himself and his men the option of turning back. By removing this option, Cortez and his men were forced to focus on how they could make the mission successful. Steve Curtis Chapman wrote a song based on this story titled “Burn your Ships” and it has become my theme song and a source of motivation over the last 100 days.

As addicts waging a battle against a powerful drug like nicotine, we can learn an important lesson from the ancient Greeks and from Cortez. In order to be successful in our battle against nicotine we also need to “Burn our Boats”. The definition of what is my “Boat” will differ depending on your personal situation. But the important point is that in order to be successful each of us needs to look at our options for retreat from the battle with nicotine and eliminate those options until the only remaining option is victory.

[Pinched]

You can only win russian roulette just so long.

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TRUTH, love it love the new movement and think they should connect with KTC as well. Great Post 30

[Thumblewort]

You can only win russian roulette just so long.

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Thank you.

[30yraddict]

You can only win russian roulette just so long.

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BANG! -------click here

[Enough snuff]

It is a joy to see so many overcoming addiction one day at a time... I remember when I first started to enjoy my quit, when it became relatively easy and I was enjoying my new life free from dip. I know some of you are in that time right now. Some of you just hit the HOF and are about to continue your journey of quit. You will get to the point in your quit where you rarely even think about dip... except when you come here. At that point you might think about throwing off the "training wheels" and take your quit for a spin solo... sans KTC... sans brotherhood... After all, you are quit now, right? You are accountable to yourself, and your family, and maybe some friends that will keep you honest, You have been quit for ________ days, no way you would ever take that cancer dirt and stick it in your mouth....

If you are thinking about drifting- my advice is DON'T!

The nic bitch is going to be changing up her strategy now. It becomes a war of attrition: She is going to wait for you to get complacent and then whisper her lies in your ear... how good one would be... how you can quit right away after using a can. She is patient, like a lion looking over a herd, waiting for one to get separated, waiting for one to get distracted.

I know you can't imagine that this tactic would work, but throughout these halls there are many stories of quits being derailed by complacency. Make sure you continue to do the things that got you this far. At 1264 days, I still get occasional craves. When they come, the first thing I think of is the promise I made here in the morning. I dipped for 33 years, and spent at least 25 of them trying to quit. Posting roll is such a simple thing to do in light of all I went through. Go through another day in slavery, I will not.

Keep doing what works friend: Post Roll, Honor Your Promise, Repeat. Guaranteed to keep you quit like nobody's business.

Proud to be quit with you today.

30

I needed to read this -thanks 30 QLF with you

[30yraddict]

It is a joy to see so many overcoming addiction one day at a time... I remember when I first started to enjoy my quit, when it became relatively easy and I was enjoying my new life free from dip. I know some of you are in that time right now. Some of you just hit the HOF and are about to continue your journey of quit. You will get to the point in your quit where you rarely even think about dip... except when you come here. At that point you might think about throwing off the "training wheels" and take your quit for a spin solo... sans KTC... sans brotherhood... After all, you are quit now, right? You are accountable to yourself, and your family, and maybe some friends that will keep you honest, You have been quit for ________ days, no way you would ever take that cancer dirt and stick it in your mouth....

If you are thinking about drifting- my advice is DON'T!

The nic bitch is going to be changing up her strategy now. It becomes a war of attrition: She is going to wait for you to get complacent and then whisper her lies in your ear... how good one would be... how you can quit right away after using a can. She is patient, like a lion looking over a herd, waiting for one to get separated, waiting for one to get distracted.

I know you can't imagine that this tactic would work, but throughout these halls there are many stories of quits being derailed by complacency. Make sure you continue to do the things that got you this far. At 1264 days, I still get occasional craves. When they come, the first thing I think of is the promise I made here in the morning. I dipped for 33 years, and spent at least 25 of them trying to quit. Posting roll is such a simple thing to do in light of all I went through. Go through another day in slavery, I will not.

Keep doing what works friend: Post Roll, Honor Your Promise, Repeat. Guaranteed to keep you quit like nobody's business.

Proud to be quit with you today.

30

[30yraddict]

Day 1260.

Just had a bona fide crave. Pathetic bitch. I'm quit - I posted Roll.

[RAZD611]

Congrats on being quit today man, and it's great to be battling side by side with ya!

No excuses, no outs...just quit.

x2

[wastepanel]

Congrats on being quit today man, and it's great to be battling side by side with ya!

No excuses, no outs...just quit.

[Thumblewort]

Those of you that know me know that I lost my brother in 2011 of throat cancer. The story is in this introÂ… I think somewhere in here is the fact that I lost my mother to emphysema at 56. So tobacco has directly claimed 2 in my family to date. AnywayÂ….

A couple of years ago my other brother goes to the doctor for a checkupÂ… they find his prostate cancer markers highÂ… They do some tests and give him a clean bill of health.

He went back to the doctors about 6 months ago because he was having pain in his hip. HeÂ’s 51 at this point, so hip pain isnÂ’t so normalÂ… they run some tests and he is stage 4 prostate cancerÂ… metastasized to the bone, hence the hip pain , no cure, chemo and hormone therapy will prolong his life, but eventually this terrible disease will ravage his body, just like it did with my oldest brotherÂ… different type of cancer, same result.

Now prostate cancer may not be the first cancer to come to mind when you think of cancers caused by tobacco, but prostate cancers found in smokers tend to me much more aggressiveÂ… so at the very least, smoking is a contributing factor to the number of days that my brother has to be with his wife. The number of days to hug his children. He has 3: a 21 year old son and two daughters, 16 and 15.

Tonight I went to a family gathering to see my brotherÂ… His hair is thin courtesy of the latest round of chemoÂ… teeth are starting to turn black, also courtesy of chemo. His complexion is pale. His hands shake when he tries to do the simplest of tasks. As much as he puts on his game face, you can tell that the chemo and cancer are knocking the shit out of him. He confessed to me that depression descends on him like a dark cloud as he thinks about the days that are inevitably going to come. When he thinks about the suffering, When he thinks about the hardship his family is going to go through. When he thinks about leaving the 4 people in this world that he loves most of all. His wife, his rockÂ… well she looks tired. She is already grieving inside. I can see it in her eyes. In her tone. They both put on their game face, but it is easy to see what lies beneath.

Know that what has happened to my brother can happen to any one of usÂ… and each day that we choose to continue to use tobacco increases the chances that it will happen to us. Put yourself in my brotherÂ’s shoesÂ… think about what it would be like to come back to the doctors and tell your wife. To know that you are dying and wait until your children are off from school to tell them. To watch them as you tell them that you are dying. To watch them as their eyes well up with tears. To know that you could have made a single decision that would have protected them from all of this painÂ….

The decision to quit, and to stay that way. Never Again - For Any Reason.

Thank you for sharing that, NAFAR.

[Ready]

Those of you that know me know that I lost my brother in 2011 of throat cancer. The story is in this introÂ… I think somewhere in here is the fact that I lost my mother to emphysema at 56. So tobacco has directly claimed 2 in my family to date. AnywayÂ….

A couple of years ago my other brother goes to the doctor for a checkupÂ… they find his prostate cancer markers highÂ… They do some tests and give him a clean bill of health.

He went back to the doctors about 6 months ago because he was having pain in his hip. HeÂ’s 51 at this point, so hip pain isnÂ’t so normalÂ… they run some tests and he is stage 4 prostate cancerÂ… metastasized to the bone, hence the hip pain , no cure, chemo and hormone therapy will prolong his life, but eventually this terrible disease will ravage his body, just like it did with my oldest brotherÂ… different type of cancer, same result.

Now prostate cancer may not be the first cancer to come to mind when you think of cancers caused by tobacco, but prostate cancers found in smokers tend to me much more aggressiveÂ… so at the very least, smoking is a contributing factor to the number of days that my brother has to be with his wife. The number of days to hug his children. He has 3: a 21 year old son and two daughters, 16 and 15.

Tonight I went to a family gathering to see my brotherÂ… His hair is thin courtesy of the latest round of chemoÂ… teeth are starting to turn black, also courtesy of chemo. His complexion is pale. His hands shake when he tries to do the simplest of tasks. As much as he puts on his game face, you can tell that the chemo and cancer are knocking the shit out of him. He confessed to me that depression descends on him like a dark cloud as he thinks about the days that are inevitably going to come. When he thinks about the suffering, When he thinks about the hardship his family is going to go through. When he thinks about leaving the 4 people in this world that he loves most of all. His wife, his rockÂ… well she looks tired. She is already grieving inside. I can see it in her eyes. In her tone. They both put on their game face, but it is easy to see what lies beneath.

Know that what has happened to my brother can happen to any one of usÂ… and each day that we choose to continue to use tobacco increases the chances that it will happen to us. Put yourself in my brotherÂ’s shoesÂ… think about what it would be like to come back to the doctors and tell your wife. To know that you are dying and wait until your children are off from school to tell them. To watch them as you tell them that you are dying. To watch them as their eyes well up with tears. To know that you could have made a single decision that would have protected them from all of this painÂ….

The decision to quit, and to stay that way. Never Again - For Any Reason.

I really don't have any words brother. Never again, for any reason indeed.