Greg, 20+ yr dipper

[SirDerek]

Well I did it. I hit the year mark a few days ago. To that I say, good job me :D

For you new quitters here are some things I have learned along the way:

1.That 1st couple of weeks sucked hardcore ass, but was totally worth it.
2. The pain, fogginess, anger, rage- all of that shit goes away in time. Stay strong and focused and you can make it through all of that.
3. The craves- I'm sure this differs for everyone, but for me, I still get them from time to time. Very minor ones now, that I just brush to the side, but I still get them on occasion. Me personally, I like the fact that I still get them. I dont ever want to forget what my addiction was. The moment I become complacent about my quit is the moment that I could lose it, and that shit aint happening. So if I have to have a small crave every now and then to keep me focused, then so be it.
4. As a ninja dipper for the last several years of my addiction, the shit I would do to get my fix in hiding from my family was truly mind blowing. Now that I am free from all of that crap, the freedom that I have now is truly awesome. Over this past year we have made several trips to the zoo ( I have twin 6 year old boys and a 4 year girl), the science center, museums, all of these trips would have sucked ass in the past, as I would not have gotten my fix in easily, you know, because that was what was important :rolleyes: I was an idiot.
5. POSTING ROLL WORKS!!!- I have never met any of my brothers from Sept '12, never even spoken on the phone with any of them- but I'll be damned if wouldn't beak my heart to disappoint any of them by caving, it's just not an option.
6. Coming clean to your friends and family is a must. My friends knew of my addiction. My family did to an extent. Coming clean to my wife about my ninja dipping was crucial to my early success. By telling her on day 1 that I was quitting, it gave me another person to be accountable to, but also gave me another person that I knew I could count on for support. She knew what to look for when I was struggling. She knew that when I would rage, that it was the detox talking and she would not rage back and make it worse. She knew not to put me in situations that could potentially hurt my quit.

So to all of my quit brothers, I thank you all for the support that you have given me in this journey. To the new quitters- Hang in there, it gets better and the freedom is so worth the early shit you go through and if you need a number for another support contact, feel fee to PM anytime.

So now I have to go get my kids ready to go swimming and have nice day with them- dip free and loving life
Your quit brother,

Greg

Well Done brother Shoog - been and will keep chasing you from a month out....

New guys, take a look at and take to heart what he states below.

And heck, if Shoog can be quit in that van down by the river, well then any of us can (HAHAHA have always loved the avatar).

[shoogie]

Well I did it. I hit the year mark a few days ago. To that I say, good job me :D

For you new quitters here are some things I have learned along the way:

1.That 1st couple of weeks sucked hardcore ass, but was totally worth it.
2. The pain, fogginess, anger, rage- all of that shit goes away in time. Stay strong and focused and you can make it through all of that.
3. The craves- I'm sure this differs for everyone, but for me, I still get them from time to time. Very minor ones now, that I just brush to the side, but I still get them on occasion. Me personally, I like the fact that I still get them. I dont ever want to forget what my addiction was. The moment I become complacent about my quit is the moment that I could lose it, and that shit aint happening. So if I have to have a small crave every now and then to keep me focused, then so be it.
4. As a ninja dipper for the last several years of my addiction, the shit I would do to get my fix in hiding from my family was truly mind blowing. Now that I am free from all of that crap, the freedom that I have now is truly awesome. Over this past year we have made several trips to the zoo ( I have twin 6 year old boys and a 4 year girl), the science center, museums, all of these trips would have sucked ass in the past, as I would not have gotten my fix in easily, you know, because that was what was important :rolleyes: I was an idiot.
5. POSTING ROLL WORKS!!!- I have never met any of my brothers from Sept '12, never even spoken on the phone with any of them- but I'll be damned if wouldn't beak my heart to disappoint any of them by caving, it's just not an option.
6. Coming clean to your friends and family is a must. My friends knew of my addiction. My family did to an extent. Coming clean to my wife about my ninja dipping was crucial to my early success. By telling her on day 1 that I was quitting, it gave me another person to be accountable to, but also gave me another person that I knew I could count on for support. She knew what to look for when I was struggling. She knew that when I would rage, that it was the detox talking and she would not rage back and make it worse. She knew not to put me in situations that could potentially hurt my quit.

So to all of my quit brothers, I thank you all for the support that you have given me in this journey. To the new quitters- Hang in there, it gets better and the freedom is so worth the early shit you go through and if you need a number for another support contact, feel fee to PM anytime.

So now I have to go get my kids ready to go swimming and have nice day with them- dip free and loving life
Your quit brother,

Greg

[30isEnuff]

Dear shoogie,
I QUIT with YOU today! You are still that badass quitter! No matter what happens!
I too get the dip dream occasionally...feel guilty when my eyes open, feel weird til the "realness" wears off, feel like shit when I post roll that a.m., feel GREAT when I get to chat that day and some badass quitter (Cbird this week) tells me like it is and I am again thinking clearly and stronger than hercules!!!!
I could not keep quit without this site! Your posts and chat time gives me strength!I am only a "babe" in the life of being QUIT and nicotine addiction.
Please keep posting roll until you have not had a nic dream in 699 daze! If you'll do this, I will too! 'bang head'
Be strong Mr. Shoogie, Be strong. Never surrender, never give up! Make the DECISION every a.m. early! keep your word, REPEAT in the a.m. and I WILL TOO!!!!!!
have a safe weekend, protect your quit, scream and punch at the nic bitch and kick her back into her hole!!! You can, I can, WE can KICK the CAN!!!

[shoogie]

14o+ days in and she still will not give up. Had another dip dream last night, very realistic. Cant remember everything, but I do remember thinking that just one wouldnt hurt, and then while I was doing it I was thinking to myself that I had just caved, but that I would just keep posting roll.

Woke up this morning feeling very guilty and had a pretty substantial crave for a few minutes. Fucking cunt.

As I am typing this I think I realized where the dream came from. The other day it got really cold here so I had to break out my winter coat for the 1st time and I found several Grizzly $1 dollar off coupons in the inside pocket. I'm sure they had expired, didnt really look at them just threw them out, but I'm guessing that was enough of a door opening that the cunt thought she would try and win me back.

[mikegooch]

I realized the other day that the nic bitch will sneak up on you with no warning.

I was driving around town doing some errands when I passed this old lady, probably late 70's, puffing away on a cancer stick, and for a brief moment I thought to myself that if she can make it that long without dying of cancer then why couldnt I? Maybe, just maybe, I could enjoy dipping again for the next 40 years and make it into the 70's without dying.

Then poof, that thought vanished. She stopped by just long enough to drop that little message into my head. Trying to crack my resolve, but that's not what happened. What actually happened was the more I thought about it, the more I realized that dying of cancer was not the main reason for me not dipping anymore. Living the next 30, 40, 50 years ninja dipping and hiding from my family and missing out on watching my kids grow up are the main reasons for quitting. For the past 85 days I have been able to enjoy my family like I never could while dipping. No more hiding from kids trying to get my fix, no more mood swings from not getting my fix in time...etc. All of that was just BS and completely unfair to my family.

85-0 bitch  'Finger'

Good shit. Sometimes ill see people parrying/having a good time as they smoke or dip and I get jealous for some reason like they have "fun enhancers" and I don't. Pisses me off. But then I realize that shit isn't enhancing their fun, its shortening their lives and they just THINK it adds to their fun and then I actually feel bad for them. There's no law that says you cant have fun without nicotine, hell people do it everyday. Fucked up how my addicted mind works!!!!

Ive also thought the same about the 80 yr old smokers. I think "damn I could live to be 80 and chew too". But then I think about my 56 yr old uncle who died last year from small cell cancer from smoking and think, fuck that could be me too. Then like you I really start to think the reason I quit really wasn't fear of cancer. It was one of the reasons but like you I was a ninja. I lied to my wife and kids face so many times it still makes me sick. Nicotine controlled my life, 100% no doubt about it. As a man that hurts to admit but it did.

Now I'm quit for me and me only. Still have rough spots, still wrongly glamorize it from time to time, still wrongly think it could ease the stress of certain situations...but it cant. Its just posionous weeds in a can. Sadly it controlled my life for 15 years but not much I can do about that now. Only thing I can do now is continue to take me life back and quit worry about people ive never met and what the fuck they're doing. This shits hard but I know its worth it. No "man" should have his life controlled by ANYTHING, let alone a can of shit that can kill you.

These thoughts are exactly why I love KTC. I can go from feeling sorry for myself to reading others success stories and can be lifted to the top of quit heaven! How great it is to have friends that understand exactly what you are going through and can lean on each other for support.

All good stuff in this thread! The other day I was at a light and this guy pulled up beside me a motorcycle.. Had a big ole fatty and flung a wad of spit there about 3 ft from my truck door... Prob 90% of the population would think that was incredibly gross... Me I just thought for just a sec.. "you lucky bastard"! Then I like shoogie thought... hell I could still do that.. actually why don't i just start dipping in my top lip all the time.. (5 gum grafts bottom pretty much shot).. then I thought what the hell.. I will just do a total reconstruction in my mouth and be good to go for another 44 years.. then after that I simply wouldn't give a damn.. Sometimes I would rather put up with the surgeries and all the shit that goes along with them... But then I came to my senses!! Fuck that. I don't have to live like that any more and ever again! I am no slave! I can handle a little pussy crave every now and then... because I AM QUIT!! Later - Gooch

[Wt57]

I realized the other day that the nic bitch will sneak up on you with no warning.

I was driving around town doing some errands when I passed this old lady, probably late 70's, puffing away on a cancer stick, and for a brief moment I thought to myself that if she can make it that long without dying of cancer then why couldnt I? Maybe, just maybe, I could enjoy dipping again for the next 40 years and make it into the 70's without dying.

Then poof, that thought vanished. She stopped by just long enough to drop that little message into my head. Trying to crack my resolve, but that's not what happened. What actually happened was the more I thought about it, the more I realized that dying of cancer was not the main reason for me not dipping anymore. Living the next 30, 40, 50 years ninja dipping and hiding from my family and missing out on watching my kids grow up are the main reasons for quitting. For the past 85 days I have been able to enjoy my family like I never could while dipping. No more hiding from kids trying to get my fix, no more mood swings from not getting my fix in time...etc. All of that was just BS and completely unfair to my family.

85-0 bitch  'Finger'

Good shit. Sometimes ill see people parrying/having a good time as they smoke or dip and I get jealous for some reason like they have "fun enhancers" and I don't. Pisses me off. But then I realize that shit isn't enhancing their fun, its shortening their lives and they just THINK it adds to their fun and then I actually feel bad for them. There's no law that says you cant have fun without nicotine, hell people do it everyday. Fucked up how my addicted mind works!!!!

Ive also thought the same about the 80 yr old smokers. I think "damn I could live to be 80 and chew too". But then I think about my 56 yr old uncle who died last year from small cell cancer from smoking and think, fuck that could be me too. Then like you I really start to think the reason I quit really wasn't fear of cancer. It was one of the reasons but like you I was a ninja. I lied to my wife and kids face so many times it still makes me sick. Nicotine controlled my life, 100% no doubt about it. As a man that hurts to admit but it did.

Now I'm quit for me and me only. Still have rough spots, still wrongly glamorize it from time to time, still wrongly think it could ease the stress of certain situations...but it cant. Its just posionous weeds in a can. Sadly it controlled my life for 15 years but not much I can do about that now. Only thing I can do now is continue to take me life back and quit worry about people ive never met and what the fuck they're doing. This shits hard but I know its worth it. No "man" should have his life controlled by ANYTHING, let alone a can of shit that can kill you.

These thoughts are exactly why I love KTC. I can go from feeling sorry for myself to reading others success stories and can be lifted to the top of quit heaven! How great it is to have friends that understand exactly what you are going through and can lean on each other for support.

[Diesel2112]

I realized the other day that the nic bitch will sneak up on you with no warning.

I was driving around town doing some errands when I passed this old lady, probably late 70's, puffing away on a cancer stick, and for a brief moment I thought to myself that if she can make it that long without dying of cancer then why couldnt I? Maybe, just maybe, I could enjoy dipping again for the next 40 years and make it into the 70's without dying.

Then poof, that thought vanished. She stopped by just long enough to drop that little message into my head. Trying to crack my resolve, but that's not what happened. What actually happened was the more I thought about it, the more I realized that dying of cancer was not the main reason for me not dipping anymore. Living the next 30, 40, 50 years ninja dipping and hiding from my family and missing out on watching my kids grow up are the main reasons for quitting. For the past 85 days I have been able to enjoy my family like I never could while dipping. No more hiding from kids trying to get my fix, no more mood swings from not getting my fix in time...etc. All of that was just BS and completely unfair to my family.

85-0 bitch 'Finger'

Good shit. Sometimes ill see people parrying/having a good time as they smoke or dip and I get jealous for some reason like they have "fun enhancers" and I don't. Pisses me off. But then I realize that shit isn't enhancing their fun, its shortening their lives and they just THINK it adds to their fun and then I actually feel bad for them. There's no law that says you cant have fun without nicotine, hell people do it everyday. Fucked up how my addicted mind works!!!!

Ive also thought the same about the 80 yr old smokers. I think "damn I could live to be 80 and chew too". But then I think about my 56 yr old uncle who died last year from small cell cancer from smoking and think, fuck that could be me too. Then like you I really start to think the reason I quit really wasn't fear of cancer. It was one of the reasons but like you I was a ninja. I lied to my wife and kids face so many times it still makes me sick. Nicotine controlled my life, 100% no doubt about it. As a man that hurts to admit but it did.

Now I'm quit for me and me only. Still have rough spots, still wrongly glamorize it from time to time, still wrongly think it could ease the stress of certain situations...but it cant. Its just posionous weeds in a can. Sadly it controlled my life for 15 years but not much I can do about that now. Only thing I can do now is continue to take me life back and quit worry about people ive never met and what the fuck they're doing. This shits hard but I know its worth it. No "man" should have his life controlled by ANYTHING, let alone a can of shit that can kill you.

[shoogie]

I realized the other day that the nic bitch will sneak up on you with no warning.

I was driving around town doing some errands when I passed this old lady, probably late 70's, puffing away on a cancer stick, and for a brief moment I thought to myself that if she can make it that long without dying of cancer then why couldnt I? Maybe, just maybe, I could enjoy dipping again for the next 40 years and make it into the 70's without dying.

Then poof, that thought vanished. She stopped by just long enough to drop that little message into my head. Trying to crack my resolve, but that's not what happened. What actually happened was the more I thought about it, the more I realized that dying of cancer was not the main reason for me not dipping anymore. Living the next 30, 40, 50 years ninja dipping and hiding from my family and missing out on watching my kids grow up are the main reasons for quitting. For the past 85 days I have been able to enjoy my family like I never could while dipping. No more hiding from kids trying to get my fix, no more mood swings from not getting my fix in time...etc. All of that was just BS and completely unfair to my family.

85-0 bitch 'Finger'

[Wedge]

50 days! 50 days without her. I never thought it was possible. I never thought I wanted it to be possible. I realize now that those thoughts were coming from her and not me. She's tried everything- sleepless nights, rage, cold sweats, hot flashes, hardcore craves, mild craves, dip dreams, anxiety, the little annoying fucking voice in the back of my mind telling me that 1 more for old times sake, yes, she has tried it all. But she fucked up, she fucked up in letting me get a taste of the freedom that I have now without her, and nothing and I truly mean NOTHING she can and will do will ever make me give that up.

I am quit

'clap'



Good stuff, shoog. Just the tip of the iceberg. It gets better everyday.....

Shoogie,

you are an awesome quitter and this site is much better for having you. Hope you stick around for 5000 days.

[Buddy Mac]

50 days! 50 days without her. I never thought it was possible. I never thought I wanted it to be possible. I realize now that those thoughts were coming from her and not me. She's tried everything- sleepless nights, rage, cold sweats, hot flashes, hardcore craves, mild craves, dip dreams, anxiety, the little annoying fucking voice in the back of my mind telling me that 1 more for old times sake, yes, she has tried it all. But she fucked up, she fucked up in letting me get a taste of the freedom that I have now without her, and nothing and I truly mean NOTHING she can and will do will ever make me give that up.

I am quit

'clap'



Good stuff, shoog. Just the tip of the iceberg. It gets better everyday.....

[zam]

50 days! 50 days without her. I never thought it was possible. I never thought I wanted it to be possible. I realize now that those thoughts were coming from her and not me. She's tried everything- sleepless nights, rage, cold sweats, hot flashes, hardcore craves, mild craves, dip dreams, anxiety, the little annoying fucking voice in the back of my mind telling me that 1 more for old times sake, yes, she has tried it all. But she fucked up, she fucked up in letting me get a taste of the freedom that I have now without her, and nothing and I truly mean NOTHING she can and will do will ever make me give that up.

I am quit

'clap'

Good stuff shoogie, I'm gonna plagiarize the shit out of that someday. Bravo,

[dippshit]

50 days! 50 days without her. I never thought it was possible. I never thought I wanted it to be possible. I realize now that those thoughts were coming from her and not me. She's tried everything- sleepless nights, rage, cold sweats, hot flashes, hardcore craves, mild craves, dip dreams, anxiety, the little annoying fucking voice in the back of my mind telling me that 1 more for old times sake, yes, she has tried it all. But she fucked up, she fucked up in letting me get a taste of the freedom that I have now without her, and nothing and I truly mean NOTHING she can and will do will ever make me give that up.

I am quit

'clap'

[shoogie]

50 days! 50 days without her. I never thought it was possible. I never thought I wanted it to be possible. I realize now that those thoughts were coming from her and not me. She's tried everything- sleepless nights, rage, cold sweats, hot flashes, hardcore craves, mild craves, dip dreams, anxiety, the little annoying fucking voice in the back of my mind telling me that 1 more for old times sake, yes, she has tried it all. But she fucked up, she fucked up in letting me get a taste of the freedom that I have now without her, and nothing and I truly mean NOTHING she can and will do will ever make me give that up.

I am quit

[Scowick65]

So yesterday I receive a pamphlet in the mail from my insurance provider stating that they are offering a $150 incentive to anyone that quits tobacco, all you have to do is sign up for a quit program at webcoach.net, which is run by the American cancer society. So I do that and one of the requirements is that I participate in 5 calls from my quit coach. About 20 minutes after I sign up my phone rings and it is my quit coach and she wants to get some information, the usual- how long have I used, when the was the last time etc, etc. She tells me that they can help with the payment of nic gum and prescrip meds and I tell her that I do not want any of that, that I am doing this cold turkey. She then asks what my strategy was, and I told her that, among other things, I signed up on an online forum and that the only thing I do is give my word that I will not use today, everyday. Her response was "that website wouldnt happen to be killthecan would it? to which I obviously reply yes, and she said that they recommend this site to everyone that calls in trying to quit and that I was the 1st person she has talked to that actually used it. So to the wonderful addicts that created this site, well done, the ACS even believes in this method!

That's fuckin awesome

That is awesome. Building honor and quit 1 day at a time.

[Bruce]

So yesterday I receive a pamphlet in the mail from my insurance provider stating that they are offering a $150 incentive to anyone that quits tobacco, all you have to do is sign up for a quit program at webcoach.net, which is run by the American cancer society. So I do that and one of the requirements is that I participate in 5 calls from my quit coach. About 20 minutes after I sign up my phone rings and it is my quit coach and she wants to get some information, the usual- how long have I used, when the was the last time etc, etc. She tells me that they can help with the payment of nic gum and prescrip meds and I tell her that I do not want any of that, that I am doing this cold turkey. She then asks what my strategy was, and I told her that, among other things, I signed up on an online forum and that the only thing I do is give my word that I will not use today, everyday. Her response was "that website wouldnt happen to be killthecan would it? to which I obviously reply yes, and she said that they recommend this site to everyone that calls in trying to quit and that I was the 1st person she has talked to that actually used it. So to the wonderful addicts that created this site, well done, the ACS even believes in this method!

That's fuckin awesome