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Offline tmr5215

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Re: College Student ready to kick the tin!
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2013, 08:35:00 PM »
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The thing I have learned about dip over the years is that we all dip to relieve anxiety or stress  
You learned Wrong.

Dip doesn't help with anxiety or stress. The relief you feel is actually nothing more than relieving the nicotine withdrawl symptoms. Here is how it works in a nut shell.


1. Stress/anxiety cause your body to produce cortisol and adrenaline etc

2. These reduce the amount of nicotine in your blood stream.

3. The sudden drop in nicotine levels trigger withdrawl symptoms. You become more anxious, irritated, etc.

4. You take a dip and feel the relief from withdrawl

5. You mistake the relief from withdrawl for relief from the actual cause of anxiety or stress.

Nicotine is not a crutch, it is an anchor. Nicotine doesn't fill the void, it created it. Having a chew doesn't fix anything or solve any problems, it doesn't make you smarter, better looking, less stressed, or smoother with the ladies. It will not fix a broken heart or heal a hurt. The only thing nicotine is good for is keeping you addicted to nicotine.

Here is a quote and link from whyquit, an anti smoking site but a great resource for nicotine education. Read up.

"Think about it. Once we finished tanking-up with a new supply of nicotine and had satisfied our dependency, the car's tire was still flat, or the bad news was still bad. One of the greatest recovery gifts of all is an amazing sense of calm during crisis, as we're no longer adding nicotine withdrawal atop every stressful event."

http://whyquit.com/whyquit/LinksAAddiction.html
What Skoal Monster said........ x 2.

Getting my head wrapped around that concept was key to staying quit. We are addicts. Nicotine is our drug. That will never change. We can never have "just one" again. You probably have already proven that, you just haven't completely accepted the concept yet.
Tsk tsk tsk. 'finger point' 'finger point' You've been brainwashed my friend.

So what about the people at college who don't dip, are they SUPER stressed all the time? I mean surely they have exams too, and girl troubles. How do they deal with all that without dipping? They must be magic gypsies or something.

Nope. As SM laid out, nicotine does not fill any voids it creates them. You THINK you need the dip to relieve stress, but really you need it because you're flat out addicted to it. You use it to ease the withdraw pangs. You're an addict dude, time to face that fact and get on to quitting.

Exams and girls...dude I'd give my left nut to go back to college and only have the stress of college and exams. The "real world" is much tougher, trust me.

Once you realize you aren't giving up anything pleasurable, or anything that makes your life "easier", the better off you will be.

Life is tough dude, whether you have a lip full of cancerous weeds in or not. It doesn't change one Damn thing.

Time to grow up bud, and quit. We got the program here to help you. Use us.
"Exams and girls...dude I'd give my left nut to go back to college and only have the stress of college and exams."

I can't tell you how much I needed to hear this. Thanks man.

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Re: College Student ready to kick the tin!
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2013, 03:58:00 PM »
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The thing I have learned about dip over the years is that we all dip to relieve anxiety or stress  
You learned Wrong.

Dip doesn't help with anxiety or stress. The relief you feel is actually nothing more than relieving the nicotine withdrawl symptoms. Here is how it works in a nut shell.


1. Stress/anxiety cause your body to produce cortisol and adrenaline etc

2. These reduce the amount of nicotine in your blood stream.

3. The sudden drop in nicotine levels trigger withdrawl symptoms. You become more anxious, irritated, etc.

4. You take a dip and feel the relief from withdrawl

5. You mistake the relief from withdrawl for relief from the actual cause of anxiety or stress.

Nicotine is not a crutch, it is an anchor. Nicotine doesn't fill the void, it created it. Having a chew doesn't fix anything or solve any problems, it doesn't make you smarter, better looking, less stressed, or smoother with the ladies. It will not fix a broken heart or heal a hurt. The only thing nicotine is good for is keeping you addicted to nicotine.

Here is a quote and link from whyquit, an anti smoking site but a great resource for nicotine education. Read up.

"Think about it. Once we finished tanking-up with a new supply of nicotine and had satisfied our dependency, the car's tire was still flat, or the bad news was still bad. One of the greatest recovery gifts of all is an amazing sense of calm during crisis, as we're no longer adding nicotine withdrawal atop every stressful event."

http://whyquit.com/whyquit/LinksAAddiction.html
What Skoal Monster said........ x 2.

Getting my head wrapped around that concept was key to staying quit. We are addicts. Nicotine is our drug. That will never change. We can never have "just one" again. You probably have already proven that, you just haven't completely accepted the concept yet.
Tsk tsk tsk. 'finger point' 'finger point' You've been brainwashed my friend.

So what about the people at college who don't dip, are they SUPER stressed all the time? I mean surely they have exams too, and girl troubles. How do they deal with all that without dipping? They must be magic gypsies or something.

Nope. As SM laid out, nicotine does not fill any voids it creates them. You THINK you need the dip to relieve stress, but really you need it because you're flat out addicted to it. You use it to ease the withdraw pangs. You're an addict dude, time to face that fact and get on to quitting.

Exams and girls...dude I'd give my left nut to go back to college and only have the stress of college and exams. The "real world" is much tougher, trust me.

Once you realize you aren't giving up anything pleasurable, or anything that makes your life "easier", the better off you will be.

Life is tough dude, whether you have a lip full of cancerous weeds in or not. It doesn't change one Damn thing.

Time to grow up bud, and quit. We got the program here to help you. Use us.
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Re: College Student ready to kick the tin!
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2013, 03:43:00 PM »
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The thing I have learned about dip over the years is that we all dip to relieve anxiety or stress  
You learned Wrong.

Dip doesn't help with anxiety or stress. The relief you feel is actually nothing more than relieving the nicotine withdrawl symptoms. Here is how it works in a nut shell.


1. Stress/anxiety cause your body to produce cortisol and adrenaline etc

2. These reduce the amount of nicotine in your blood stream.

3. The sudden drop in nicotine levels trigger withdrawl symptoms. You become more anxious, irritated, etc.

4. You take a dip and feel the relief from withdrawl

5. You mistake the relief from withdrawl for relief from the actual cause of anxiety or stress.

Nicotine is not a crutch, it is an anchor. Nicotine doesn't fill the void, it created it. Having a chew doesn't fix anything or solve any problems, it doesn't make you smarter, better looking, less stressed, or smoother with the ladies. It will not fix a broken heart or heal a hurt. The only thing nicotine is good for is keeping you addicted to nicotine.

Here is a quote and link from whyquit, an anti smoking site but a great resource for nicotine education. Read up.

"Think about it. Once we finished tanking-up with a new supply of nicotine and had satisfied our dependency, the car's tire was still flat, or the bad news was still bad. One of the greatest recovery gifts of all is an amazing sense of calm during crisis, as we're no longer adding nicotine withdrawal atop every stressful event."

http://whyquit.com/whyquit/LinksAAddiction.html
What Skoal Monster said........ x 2.

Getting my head wrapped around that concept was key to staying quit. We are addicts. Nicotine is our drug. That will never change. We can never have "just one" again. You probably have already proven that, you just haven't completely accepted the concept yet.

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Re: College Student ready to kick the tin!
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2013, 03:01:00 PM »
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The thing I have learned about dip over the years is that we all dip to relieve anxiety or stress  
You learned Wrong.

Dip doesn't help with anxiety or stress. The relief you feel is actually nothing more than relieving the nicotine withdrawl symptoms. Here is how it works in a nut shell.


1. Stress/anxiety cause your body to produce cortisol and adrenaline etc

2. These reduce the amount of nicotine in your blood stream.

3. The sudden drop in nicotine levels trigger withdrawl symptoms. You become more anxious, irritated, etc.

4. You take a dip and feel the relief from withdrawl

5. You mistake the relief from withdrawl for relief from the actual cause of anxiety or stress.

Nicotine is not a crutch, it is an anchor. Nicotine doesn't fill the void, it created it. Having a chew doesn't fix anything or solve any problems, it doesn't make you smarter, better looking, less stressed, or smoother with the ladies. It will not fix a broken heart or heal a hurt. The only thing nicotine is good for is keeping you addicted to nicotine.

Here is a quote and link from whyquit, an anti smoking site but a great resource for nicotine education. Read up.

"Think about it. Once we finished tanking-up with a new supply of nicotine and had satisfied our dependency, the car's tire was still flat, or the bad news was still bad. One of the greatest recovery gifts of all is an amazing sense of calm during crisis, as we're no longer adding nicotine withdrawal atop every stressful event."

http://whyquit.com/whyquit/LinksAAddiction.html
"CLOSE THE DOOR. In my opinion, it?s the single most important step in your final quit. There is one moment, THE moment, when you finally let go and surrender to the quit. After that moment, no temptation will be great enough, no lie persuasive enough to make you commit suicide by using tobacco."

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Re: College Student ready to kick the tin!
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2013, 12:40:00 PM »
hay tim man. i aspect the internets to be hard for old guys to figger out but not you yungsters... any ways you click up in that pink welcome center link up top a the page and there shood be some links to get you started on postin up roll. but heres a few basicks

no nickateen in any form. dip gum patch all bad.
get it in to your head it aint a habit. its a adickshun. that means there aint no cure. its a fite for the rest a your life.
jernal you quit rite here. speshully when its tuff. later you can rememember how tuff it was and sellabrate your sucksesses.
get in your quit groop. thats may 2013 get numbers. make frends. these guys are gonna be your first line a dafense.

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College Student ready to kick the tin!
« on: February 18, 2013, 12:25:00 PM »
Hello all!

My name's Tim, I'm currently a junior at Penn State. However, I am down in Florida completing a co-op for the semester.

I've struggled with quitting multiple times, about 4 now to be exact and going for as long as 90 days once. I have been hooked on Grizzley wintergreen pouches for the past 4 years and I am ready to quit the habit. I've been on this site many times before for help and advice, however, I have never actually posted roll or been able to navigate the boards. (If someone could help me out that would be great.)

The thing I have learned about dip over the years is that we all dip to relieve anxiety or stress. In a college students life thats usually for finals week, girls or just being sick of all the BS. There's always another reason to keep going such as I have 3 exams this week, had a rough weekend with a girl or just down right complacency.

But the sick cynical thing about dip is that we may dip to relieve our short-term worries, but at the end of the day dip is going to make all of our long-term stresses 100000x worse. (i.e. worrying about grades turns into worrying about your health)

I'm sick and tired of being controlled by the tin. I'm ready to quit now for once and for all! I can't wait to meet all of you and thank you all in advance for your support in my journey.