Don't shoot, it's just me!

[Nolaq]

Listen fuckstick...LOOT's been about as nice as he's gonna be.  This place is very, very simple.  We post Roll Call.  You sir, are no exception.  You will not circumvent this process just because you can't post NRT days.  You are either with us in Roll Call...or you can post your quit musings somewhere else. 

Roll Call is the requirement to play in this house.  It is non-negotiable....even for you buttercup.  You have a choice to make.  Your next post is Roll Call or it will be your last.

psst:

elkhills- (61) 32. Answer a question for me in my intro thread, please

This is in July 11 quit group.

Fair enough. Thanks j2b. LOOT assumed he was still on Roll Call boycott. Bad assumption.

Excellent usage of the descriptor, "fuckstick".

It's one of my all time favorites.

[loot]

Listen fuckstick...LOOT's been about as nice as he's gonna be.  This place is very, very simple.  We post Roll Call.  You sir, are no exception.  You will not circumvent this process just because you can't post NRT days.  You are either with us in Roll Call...or you can post your quit musings somewhere else. 

Roll Call is the requirement to play in this house.  It is non-negotiable....even for you buttercup.  You have a choice to make.  Your next post is Roll Call or it will be your last.

psst:

elkhills- (61) 32. Answer a question for me in my intro thread, please

This is in July 11 quit group.

Fair enough. Thanks j2b. LOOT assumed he was still on Roll Call boycott. Bad assumption.

[J2b]

Listen fuckstick...LOOT's been about as nice as he's gonna be.  This place is very, very simple.  We post Roll Call.  You sir, are no exception.  You will not circumvent this process just because you can't post NRT days.  You are either with us in Roll Call...or you can post your quit musings somewhere else. 

Roll Call is the requirement to play in this house.  It is non-negotiable....even for you buttercup.  You have a choice to make.  Your next post is Roll Call or it will be your last.

psst:

elkhills- (61) 32. Answer a question for me in my intro thread, please

This is in July 11 quit group.

[loot]

Listen fuckstick...LOOT's been about as nice as he's gonna be. This place is very, very simple. We post Roll Call. You sir, are no exception. You will not circumvent this process just because you can't post NRT days. You are either with us in Roll Call...or you can post your quit musings somewhere else.

Roll Call is the requirement to play in this house. It is non-negotiable....even for you buttercup. You have a choice to make. Your next post is Roll Call or it will be your last.

[jburrus4]

So I'm curious how F'd up everyones teeth  gums  lips were before you quit, and how/if they have begun healing?

I'll start it off:
My gums have receded way down past the enamel exposing the roots of all teeth between lower canines. The gums are also so much thinner in thickness than my healthy gums. My new dentist freaked out and refuses to see me until I visit an oral surgeon- which isn't until mid June.
When I quit chewing my bottom lip was rough and sore/sensitive, and shrivelled or creased with little lines all over. It hurt so bad to chew I had taken to dipping under my upper lip when no one was around. Damn, that's sad. At 2 months my lower lip feels smooth and healthier, though smoother than the rest of my mouth which makes me wonder why it's different.
No noticable changes to my gums, they are as f'd up looking as ever... do you think they will grow back to normal and heal eventually?

I was very lucky and blessed. I had some minor areas where the gums were slightly low but over all not to bad. Of course there is a "bone pocket" where I usually but my cud but even there the gum is OK. My understanding is that using meathods like Peace talks about along with a good antibacterial rinse can generate new blood flow and your gums will repair themselves.

[TheMissingPeace]

Dental floss. I use it every day and then use a water pik right after. When I started I had so much blood from my gums that I looked like a character in a horror movie. Now, no bleeding at all. My gums have been healing very well. I do it every day. Peace

[elkhills]

So I'm curious how F'd up everyones teeth  gums  lips were before you quit, and how/if they have begun healing?

I'll start it off:
My gums have receded way down past the enamel exposing the roots of all teeth between lower canines. The gums are also so much thinner in thickness than my healthy gums. My new dentist freaked out and refuses to see me until I visit an oral surgeon- which isn't until mid June.
When I quit chewing my bottom lip was rough and sore/sensitive, and shrivelled or creased with little lines all over. It hurt so bad to chew I had taken to dipping under my upper lip when no one was around. Damn, that's sad. At 2 months my lower lip feels smooth and healthier, though smoother than the rest of my mouth which makes me wonder why it's different.
No noticable changes to my gums, they are as f'd up looking as ever... do you think they will grow back to normal and heal eventually?

[30yraddict]

Good job elk. One day at a time.

Proud to be quit with you

30

[elkhills]

60 days of rebellion against my Master 'na na'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z-hEyVQDRA

End of passion play, crumbling away
I'm your source of self-destruction
Veins that pump with fear, sucking dark is clear
Leading on your deaths construction

Taste me you will see
More is all you need
Dedicated to
How I'm killing you

Come crawling faster
Obey your Master
Your life burns faster
Obey your Master
Master

Master of Puppets I'm pulling your strings
Twisting your mind and smashing your dreams
Blinded by me, you can't see a thing
Just call my name, 'cause I'll hear you scream
Master!
Master!
Just call my name, 'cause I'll hear you scream
Master
Master

Needlework the way, never you betray
Life of death becoming clearer
Pain monopoly, ritual misery
Chop your breakfast on a mirror

Taste me you will see
More is all you need
Dedicated to
How I'm killing you

Come crawling faster
Obey your Master
Your life burns faster
Obey your Master
Master

Master of Puppets I'm pulling your strings
Twisting your mind and smashing your dreams
Blinded by me, you can't see a thing
Just call my name, 'cause I'll hear you scream
Master
Master
Just call my name, 'cause I'll hear you scream
Master
Master

Master, Master, where's the dreams that I've been after?
Master, Master, you promised only lies
Laughter, Laughter, all I hear or see is laughter
Laughter, Laughter, laughing at my cries
Hell is worth all that, natural habitat
Just a rhyme without a reason
Neverending maze, drift on numbered days
now your life is out of season
I will occupy
I will help you die
I will run through you
Now I rule you too

Come crawling faster
Obey your Master
Your life burns faster
Obey your Master
Master

Master of Puppets I'm pulling your strings
Twisting your mind and smashing your dreams
Blinded by me, you can't see a thing
Just call my name, 'cause I'll hear you scream
Master
Master
Just call my name, 'cause I'll hear you scream
Master
Master





Yep, 60 days. Still feel the pull, but not going back to you. Fuck you tobacco.

'Finger'

[elkhills]

Day 59/30
It will be two months tomorrow since I have touched tobacco. I still wake up and feel a little confused about that sometimes... "I quit chewing, huh?". Weird, its kind of hard to believe, I was a slave to it for so long. I seriously remember telling some work friends I was gonna quit- years ago- and they all laughed at me; said "yeah right, sure you will!, hahaha!". Well, they were right at the time, but not now. Fuck you, tobacco, I beat you motherfucker! And I take pleasure in proving wrong those who doubt me.
So here's the current elkhills situation: 5 days in to a major turnaround (sorry, major refinery shutdown for maintenance). May or may not get Tuesdays off, otherwise I work 6PM to 6AM every day untill mid to late June. Tired, sore, my feet hurt already. I've stopped gaining weight so that's good. Doing great with the quit, I don't really want to chew anymore. Stood next to my boss today while he absentmindedly packed a can of wintergreen Grizzly and took a dip. He noticed me looking and held the can out like offering me a dip. I took a snif and then just looked at him, he goes "oh shit, I forgot, you quit!".
I am struggling with quitting the fake stuff though. I guess I'm addicted to the habit of just having something there. I was using the fake and doing great with it, but I think the stuff has sugar in it... and has eaten a cavity into the exposed root of a front botton tooth. The shit hurts and I've taken to uupper decking the fake stuff when I can't stop fixating on it, a few times qa day.
I see the dentist next week, hopefully I get Tuesday off for that.

[loot]

Anybody get in touch with this dood?

:huh:

He's been lurking...

Elk...quit being such a little bitch and post Roll ferfucksake.

You walk away from this site, refuse to use it over a couple fucking NRT days, and you will lose friend. We both know it.

[redtrain14]

Anybody get in touch with this dood?

:huh:

[redtrain14]

Post whatever your no nic number is and keep on going. You know this place works, no reason to turn back now.

[loot]

Would it be okay if I stick around as a member but just don't post in Roll anymore?

No sir. No it's not. Allowing you to do that would only be skirting the system and your addiction. We won't have either.

Post your nic free days in whatever Quit Group suits you. We won't allow your addiction to step in and take control of you again. You are here for a reason. You found us for a reason.

Kinda like some Hotel California shit...you owe LOOT at minimum of 100 clean days. You started. You finish big boy.

Happy quitting. You need anything, LOOT is a PM away. But, if you post Roll Call, you won't need LOOT....LOOT will be a hundred deep in line to support your sorry, addict ass. Promise.

[G]

LOOT has the numbers right.

March 16th first day of no tobacco  the beginning of a Month of Misery.

April 14th first day of NO NICOTINE whatsoever on the Chantix drug. This was a cake walk compared to my first few weeks on NRT.

April 25th no more Chantix. A few sketchy 3 year old Welbutrins is all.

I have decided to be proud of what I went through and rejoice over my 51 days of Victory over Skoal! Feels fucked up to say the hardest part of the journey, the part requiring ALL my strength/willpower and the part I feared and put off for 20 plus fucking years don't count.

I personally do not consider April 14th my first day of quitting, but I understand  respect your rules re. NRT. I agree it's ridiculous to post two numbers in Roll Call.
Would it be okay if I stick around as a member but just don't post in Roll anymore?

Am I missing something? Why on earth would you stop posting roll?