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Offline Parputt

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Re: Don't shoot, it's just me!
« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2011, 04:40:00 PM »
Days 40-50 were some of my worst. Thought I was loosing my mind. A ton of anxiety and just generally feeling out of it. Started feeling much better after that and have not looked back. Power through this and you will get better!

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Re: Don't shoot, it's just me!
« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2011, 04:33:00 PM »
38 days.
Slept like shit last night. I think I'm "in the fog", as I've heard it described. Let me elaborate:
Tired, grouchy, kids bickering hella loud; escaped upstairs after dinner to watch the first episode of the new season of Dual Survival (which is badass, DVR that sh!t) and promptly passed out cold, about 20:05.
Awakened @ 22:00, wife is frisky. This is one of the few acceptable reasons for ever waking me up before a Dayshift. Fire, burglery... sex. Yeah, that's about all I can think of right now.
Watched first episode of the new season of Dual Survival. A one hour Tornado of Badassery.
Watched American Restoration. Another hour of awesome.
Fast forwarded to the last 2 minutes of American Idol. It was the Mexican kid. Good. I'm pulling for the rocker w/ Turrettes Syndrome.
00:05- TV off. Stare at cieling. Toss. Turn. Try to ignore wifes snoring. Lay in the dark until all that is in my world is the next SNUUUUUGH. SNUUUUUUUGGGHHH. SNUGH-SNUGH-SNUGH! reverberating in my brain... I heard someone once say "it's not the snore that gets ya, it's the waiting for the next one". That is Truth.
00:30ish- relocate to downstairs couch.
03:something. Awake again. Back upstairs. Snoring has stopped. The Beagle has layed claim to the Alpha Dog spot on the bed. I win it back after a short territorial scrimmage. Fitful bursts of sleep until 04:40, when the alarm tells me it's time to let the dog have his spot back.
His lazy ass is probably still there right now.
Damn right I'm jealous.

And so here I am, half asleep, having a hard time concentrating on anything, kind of just running on auto-pilot. "In the Fog"? Everything seems kind of... far away. Very glad it's a dead boring Saturday at work.

Hey, one more day and I'm on Vacation!


And I'm barely farting at all today.
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Re: Don't shoot, it's just me!
« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2011, 03:23:00 PM »
Elk-I certainly can't wrap my mind around much of this. What I mean is, each day seems so different than the one before and each day changes throughout the course of that day. I post Roll Call every day and when the crave hits I use Smokey Mountain. I try to stay on here as often as I can and I try to keep posting even though, honestly, I don't have a lot to say. I do it anyway because I am trying to work my Quit and protect it. I'm not even drinking right now because I don't want to risk my Quit and I know myself well enough to know that that's what I need to do. Today I posted Roll Call and today I am Quit. (Day 9) Peace

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Re: Don't shoot, it's just me!
« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2011, 01:55:00 PM »
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Quote from: elkhills
I'd like to ask a few questions if anyone knows the answers:
1. When will the excessive farting end?
2. What can I expect when coming off the Chantix drug?
3. Is there a chart somewhere that shows craveing severity over time, say like over a year or so?
I found one illustrating the first week (which was very accurate I thought), but then there is usually one massive crave at the +/- 2 week mark people often mention, and some people talk of one at 100 days, a year, etc. Knowledge is power, right? Helps to know what's coming at you so you can prepare ahead of time!
A pretty accurate breakdown on KTC.org:
What to expect

From what I have heard and experienced, craves can hit at any time - even post "comma" - with varying intensity. What gets easier is how you handle them. I am at 89 days, and the craves still come out of no where. Sometimes they are enough to give me sweats and look like a crack head but really brief, other times they are like a gentle tug that wont go away.

They are getting easier to swat away, but I still turn to seeds, fireballs, gum, etc. when they get rough. So long as you post roll and honor your word, you will be fine.
Read that link. I used that page daily it seemed for the first 100. I thought for sure every day whatever new something I had going on had to be unique to me, to my surprise it was not.

Everything gets easier as time passes. But never fall into the trap of " I have this thing whipped." " I am cured. " You are and will always be an addict, as will I. I have posted my word here for 526 straight days. Do that and keep your word and everything else will work itself out.

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Re: Don't shoot, it's just me!
« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2011, 11:22:00 AM »
Quote from: elkhills
I'd like to ask a few questions if anyone knows the answers:
1. When will the excessive farting end?
2. What can I expect when coming off the Chantix drug?
3. Is there a chart somewhere that shows craveing severity over time, say like over a year or so?
I found one illustrating the first week (which was very accurate I thought), but then there is usually one massive crave at the +/- 2 week mark people often mention, and some people talk of one at 100 days, a year, etc. Knowledge is power, right? Helps to know what's coming at you so you can prepare ahead of time!
A pretty accurate breakdown on KTC.org:
What to expect

From what I have heard and experienced, craves can hit at any time - even post "comma" - with varying intensity. What gets easier is how you handle them. I am at 89 days, and the craves still come out of no where. Sometimes they are enough to give me sweats and look like a crack head but really brief, other times they are like a gentle tug that wont go away.

They are getting easier to swat away, but I still turn to seeds, fireballs, gum, etc. when they get rough. So long as you post roll and honor your word, you will be fine.
The problem is not the problem.  The problem is your attitude about the problem.  Do you understand?

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Re: Don't shoot, it's just me!
« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2011, 10:23:00 AM »
I'd like to ask a few questions if anyone knows the answers:
1. When will the excessive farting end?
2. What can I expect when coming off the Chantix drug?
3. Is there a chart somewhere that shows craveing severity over time, say like over a year or so?
I found one illustrating the first week (which was very accurate I thought), but then there is usually one massive crave at the +/- 2 week mark people often mention, and some people talk of one at 100 days, a year, etc. Knowledge is power, right? Helps to know what's coming at you so you can prepare ahead of time!
Last can I opened was a can of whoop ass.

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Re: Don't shoot, it's just me!
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2011, 11:10:00 PM »
I'm using the Smokey Mountain Wintergreen. I add cayenne pepper to it and it's really not as bad as I thought it would be. I dipped for 30 years and I am concerned that I will have a tougher time quitting the physical act of dipping than quitting nic. Today I posted Roll Call and today I am Quit. Peace

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Re: Don't shoot, it's just me!
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2011, 01:45:00 AM »
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Elk-Awesome! I thought something weird was going on with all the bumps today and even posted a little blurb about it. I'm finishing my Day 3 Quit and I haven't slept and I'm in a fog so I couldn't figure out what was going on but glad it got resolved.
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So your finishing Day 4 right now? That is great. I will be trying to catch up to you-one day at a time! We are in this Quit together. Peace
See, it's hard for me to say. We might be dead even... April 14th? I guess this is my intro thread, I can getcha all caught up :)
I'm calling March 16th, 2011 my "Quit Day". That's the day I left the new DDS' office in shame, knowing it was time to put away this nasty old bad habit; and off I reluctantly went to Wally World, for all my painkillers. 21mg patch, 4mg gum, chewed a piece every hour or so those first few days. Let me derail right here and say that a 21mg (patch)+ 96 mg (4mg gum x 24 per day) was NOWHERE NEAR the amount of nicotine I was used to. Less than half, for sure. The smoking websites say the average cigarette gives you about 1 mg per cancer stick. If those numbers are right, a pack a day smoker would get about 24mg of nicotine a day then. I am telling you right here and now as God as my witness 117mg per day of Store Bought Pharmacutical Grade Nicotine was LESS THAN HALF of what us can-a-day dippers get. I don't care what anyone else says, I know what I went through that first week. Freaky dreams. Tossing and turning, fits of sleep mixed with insomnia. Jonesing so bad for chew I wanted to scream! Irritability, the constant common denominator throughout. A freaking monarch butterfly could have landed on a kitten and it would have pissed me off. But I didn't give in. Oh, I looked at it. I opened the lid and inhaled deeply, eyes closed, held it in like a hit off a joint, and exhaled slowly through pursed lips. Then I snapped the lid back on and set the can aside. Memories of a lost love.
*que romantic melody: "Killing me softly..."*
I have not touched tobacco since March 16th, 2011. I'm proud of that. I know you guys don't recognise that date since I still had a trickle charge of nicotine flowing, and that's cool- your house your rules, but that is the day I quit. Those first days were the worst. That's where I experianced the signs  symptoms of withdrawel. Maybe I just prolonged it all by going the NRT route, I don't know, whatever it worked, I'm clean :)
On April 8th I started the first low dose of Chantix on a day off. It made me sleep all day, after that... nothing. By then I was using one patch by day, nothing by night, and a few (1 to 4) losanges depending on how bad the wife was pissing me off that day. I truley believe by the end of this week I could have just gone Cold Turkey and succeded, but I had already bought the expensive Chantix prescription and bought in to the hype. BTW, side note: losanges work WAY better than the gum. Worth the extra expense if youre going that route.
April 14th, 2011 I pulled off the last Nicotine Patch following an episode of violent nausea  vomiting; full on toilet bowl hugging-bile up the back of my nose-tap water tastes as sweet as Mountain friggin Dew afterwords. Appareantly Chantix should be taken on a full stomach, and in the absence of nicotine at the higher "Week 2" dose. That's a tip from your Uncle Elk, for you guys thinking about Chantix.
10 days in to the Chantix treatment now, which is 7 days of low dose "starter pack" and then many weeks of a higher dosage. 3 days into that HD routine and so far aside from puking my stomach inside out on that first pill I have had no ill effects. I have not had the urge to kill myself, or anyone else that I did not want to kill previously. No freaky dreams like that first week of withdrawel, which makes me wonder if the weird dreams aren't just a symptom of nicotine withdrawel itself? I don't really even want to chew most of the time, though I really do enjoy my fake stuff and wish it would hurry the hell up and get here in the mail. Thank goodness a friend of mine had some frozen in his freezer from a 2009 quit he gave up on. He hooked me up w/ 5 cans of pretty awful 2 year old freezer burnt Oregon Mint Snuff which I am loving compared to the NOTHING I had :lol:
I have promised to hook him up with Grape, Wintergreen and Mint Smokey Mtn when they show up, and help him quit for good with me. PS. Somehow, thank goodness this forum gets through the firewall at work (hehehe) so goodie for him and me, we can learn, support and get supported on the clock! :)
So yeah, I know I went a different route than the Cold Turkey Method, but you know I always have been one to do things the way I think they should be done, and fuck you if you don't like it- no offense! :) All roads lead to Rome, right? Whether I'm quit for 32 days or 3 days, the important thing is I'M QUIT!!!
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Re: Don't shoot, it's just me!
« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2011, 10:06:00 PM »
Elk-Awesome! I thought something weird was going on with all the bumps today and even posted a little blurb about it. I'm finishing my Day 3 Quit and I haven't slept and I'm in a fog so I couldn't figure out what was going on but glad it got resolved. So your finishing Day 4 right now? That is great. I will be trying to catch up to you-one day at a time! We are in this Quit together. Peace

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Re: Don't shoot, it's just me!
« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2011, 10:04:00 PM »
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Cool, no worries :)
The important thing to me is that I completed another 24 hours without any nicotine. And those particular 24 hours were the third set, meaning "Day 3" aka the hardest day. I'm over the hump! There is zero nicotine in my brain!!! Yeah me! And hooray for you too! Thanks guys for the encouragement!!!
good show, we're airborne. Some great days await...there will be some bumps along the way so stay buckled in! We'll get through this together

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Re: Don't shoot, it's just me!
« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2011, 10:00:00 PM »
Cool, no worries :)
The important thing to me is that I completed another 24 hours without any nicotine. And those particular 24 hours were the third set, meaning "Day 3" aka the hardest day. I'm over the hump! There is zero nicotine in my brain!!! Yeah me! And hooray for you too! Thanks guys for the encouragement!!!
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Re: Don't shoot, it's just me!
« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2011, 07:57:00 PM »
Elk, you indeed posted roll properly both days. This morning you along with several others were accidentally deleted by a new member this morning. Carry on.

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Re: Don't shoot, it's just me!
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2011, 07:46:00 PM »
Thought I did "post roll call", twice now? I followed the copy  paste instructions and put my name at the bottom of the list of "quitters"... in the "Pre HOF July 2011" thread. Hmm... I'll try again 'bang head'
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Re: Don't shoot, it's just me!
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2011, 03:49:00 PM »
Elk, welcome and congrats on a great decision.

I noticed that you haven't posted roll yet. If you need any help at all, just throw a PM my way.

It's absolutely instrumental that you begin posting roll immediately. Believe me, you want to do it. No more delay.

Let's get this ball of quit rollin'.

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Re: Don't shoot, it's just me!
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2011, 01:22:00 PM »
Elk-Post Roll Call, it makes all the difference. Please let me know if there is anything I can do to help. We are in this together. Peace