To use my own quote....It looks like you are still looking for excuses to continue caving....suck it up buttercup and keep posting roll......and stay the fuck out of tobbacco shops dumbass!....how many alcoholics visit the liquor store to get some near beer? The ones that fail and start drinking to answer the question.
Very true....but to take it a step further...how many Alcoholics run around town even looking for Odouls?? How many alcoholics drink a virgin tonic shaken with olives?
I agree with most things on this site BUT using the fake chew is stupid. Our addiction is both physical and mental and in the same manner using NRT is delaying the physical break......the 'fake' is delaying the mental. Its an unnecessary crutch.
Just man up and quit!
I'm only a "noob" on day 8..but..whats the difference between taking a teabag and stuffing it in your lip, or a wad of gum, or the fake shit? Its all serving the same purpose, to fufill the -psychological- need to have something bulging out of your lip. For whatever reason, it provides security. I can see how some people dont want to use it, as they may be more likely to cave-fuck it, why not use the real stuff? I don't see the same way. I'd rather stuff my lip with fake shit when I get that strong crave, then try holding out against both the addiction to nicotine, and the behavioral habit to stuff shit in my lip and risk caving and start the whole fucking process all over again. Thats just my perspective anyways. When I put the SMC in, it helps with the psychological need, and then I can focus on staying the fuck away from nicobitch. Crutch, perhaps, but its not nicotine and it helps me concentrate on taking this a day at a time.
I don't really disagree Tony - bottom-line do what you have to do to keep nic out of your system!
The problem we have here is not a question of the theoretical regarding the fake, however, the problem here is that we have a quit brother who placed himself in a compromised position early in his quit - and is now questionably caved as a result. So, for all of US pre-HOFers - and particularly those of you April and May early quitters - lets review some basic F'n guidelines to safe guard your quits:
1) Stay away from tobacco (why does this even need to be spelled out?). This means tobacco stores, the tobacco line in the grocery store, friends who chain smoke/dip, gas stations, etc. Why would you place yourself near a position of temptation? You'll be able to handle these situations better once you have a decent grasp around your quit.
2) Alcohol - not for everyone, but for many of us alcohol is a major trigger, plus when you're compromised by alcohol its that much easier to convince yourself of the old I can have just one lie. This one is particularly important for me!
3) Have a plan and use it, particularly when you find yourself in a trigger situation. Have some numbers, call your quit brothers/sisters, text, get on this site, whatever your plan is, use it.
Now for you JCrow - I looked for where this big argument between you and others on the site occurred, didn't find it. Not that it matters. Your quit is your own, you don't have to be here - you asked to be here, and in so doing you accepted the SOPs of this site. In the eyes of the majority of this group you fucked up and have caved, you're going to receive a ration of shit, get over it and stop whining. Learn from this experience and move forward with your quit. Go to April, post another Day 1, explain to your April brothers and sisters what happened and ask to be allowed to stay in their group, they'll likely say yes - thats one good group going over there.
Most importantly, if you truly want to quit, don't throw a tantrum and leave. Your quit is important and this site is a proven path, it works. Get back involved and get to quittin. I'll support you.
