Hiya Folks

[wildirish317]

I'm still quit.

Today is day 9.

Party this past weekend went off without a hitch.

Wound up that I really don't need the medications the doc prescribed.

After about the 5th day the irritability and aggression began to really taper off quickly and I'm no more irritable today than I was prior to my quit.

I was perfectly civil at the party and was even able to help out the way I would have if I'd not been going through this thing.

It seems that the "withdrawal" is over for the most part.

I'm still a little fuzzy in the head, stomach is still not totally settled, still chewing gum like crazy (though I had to find an all natural brand to chew because I was going through so much of it that the sorbitol in regular sugar-free gum was acting as a laxative), but the crazy intense constant craving coupled with absolute physical misery is past.

So yeah, my quit is still alive and well and getting stronger by the day.

It's really just that, and I'm sorry if this seems ungrateful after the help you guys offered me, I've just come to not really like this place very much.

I'm glad I grew up and decided to be a man and not let my wife and a little can control me

I bet/hope she bought him a bunch of life insurance!!!!

Starting to live up to your name.... all sooty, and dirty, and not worth much of anything????

That kind of insulting, demeaning, obnoxious stuff is literally ALL OVER this website and I don't like it at all.

I guess I understand that talking down to people helps you guys in some way to stay quit and if that's what it takes then I'm not going to buck that system because it allowed you to be here for me when I needed y'all most.

And I'm trying to figure out how I can, in turn, be here for the new guy coming in so that I can pay back that debt (what I see as a debt, anyhow).

But it's tough because, like I said, that kind of talk is so prevalent around here.

I'll get it figured out I'm sure.

But in the mean time, I'm proud to be quit with you guys today, even if I do want to wash your mouths out with soap.

Just trying to knock the addict speak out of you and try to impress upon you the importance of posting roll and making some friends to lean on. This place is a tremendously powerful tool to stay quit if you dive in and commit all the way.

I said nothing that I would be ashamed to say in front of my own mother, there bubba. Grow a little thicker skin..... the only thing any of us wants for you is to stay quit.

Glad to see that the irritability is subsiding a bit. You'll be fuzzy in the head for awhile....but sooner or later the fog will lift and you'll have clarity you haven't had in years (even better than when you were actively dipping).....likewise, craves will begin to taper off, but they'll still be there months, even years later (your addict brain never sleeps)....

Oh, and BTW, the KTC methodology is DAILY posting your promise. Not every three to five days. More than happy to offer my support to you every day, but only if I see your name on the roll EVERY DAY.

Soot, you got this, if you want it. The only way to stay quit is to stay quit.

You are through the acute withdrawal. Welcome now to post acute withdrawal symptons (PAWs). See the link in my signature for details.

Keep in mind that, once you became an addict, you cannot un-become an addict. You have to learn to live with your addiction without using. Keep moving forward, don't ever go back.

[CavMan83]

I'm still quit.

Today is day 9.

Party this past weekend went off without a hitch.

Wound up that I really don't need the medications the doc prescribed.

After about the 5th day the irritability and aggression began to really taper off quickly and I'm no more irritable today than I was prior to my quit.

I was perfectly civil at the party and was even able to help out the way I would have if I'd not been going through this thing.

It seems that the "withdrawal" is over for the most part.

I'm still a little fuzzy in the head, stomach is still not totally settled, still chewing gum like crazy (though I had to find an all natural brand to chew because I was going through so much of it that the sorbitol in regular sugar-free gum was acting as a laxative), but the crazy intense constant craving coupled with absolute physical misery is past.

So yeah, my quit is still alive and well and getting stronger by the day.

It's really just that, and I'm sorry if this seems ungrateful after the help you guys offered me, I've just come to not really like this place very much.

I'm glad I grew up and decided to be a man and not let my wife and a little can control me

I bet/hope she bought him a bunch of life insurance!!!!

Starting to live up to your name.... all sooty, and dirty, and not worth much of anything????

That kind of insulting, demeaning, obnoxious stuff is literally ALL OVER this website and I don't like it at all.

I guess I understand that talking down to people helps you guys in some way to stay quit and if that's what it takes then I'm not going to buck that system because it allowed you to be here for me when I needed y'all most.

And I'm trying to figure out how I can, in turn, be here for the new guy coming in so that I can pay back that debt (what I see as a debt, anyhow).

But it's tough because, like I said, that kind of talk is so prevalent around here.

I'll get it figured out I'm sure.

But in the mean time, I'm proud to be quit with you guys today, even if I do want to wash your mouths out with soap.

Just trying to knock the addict speak out of you and try to impress upon you the importance of posting roll and making some friends to lean on. This place is a tremendously powerful tool to stay quit if you dive in and commit all the way.

I said nothing that I would be ashamed to say in front of my own mother, there bubba. Grow a little thicker skin..... the only thing any of us wants for you is to stay quit.

Glad to see that the irritability is subsiding a bit. You'll be fuzzy in the head for awhile....but sooner or later the fog will lift and you'll have clarity you haven't had in years (even better than when you were actively dipping).....likewise, craves will begin to taper off, but they'll still be there months, even years later (your addict brain never sleeps)....

Oh, and BTW, the KTC methodology is DAILY posting your promise. Not every three to five days. More than happy to offer my support to you every day, but only if I see your name on the roll EVERY DAY.

[rdad]

I'm still quit.

Today is day 9.

Party this past weekend went off without a hitch.

Wound up that I really don't need the medications the doc prescribed.

After about the 5th day the irritability and aggression began to really taper off quickly and I'm no more irritable today than I was prior to my quit.

I was perfectly civil at the party and was even able to help out the way I would have if I'd not been going through this thing.

It seems that the "withdrawal" is over for the most part.

I'm still a little fuzzy in the head, stomach is still not totally settled, still chewing gum like crazy (though I had to find an all natural brand to chew because I was going through so much of it that the sorbitol in regular sugar-free gum was acting as a laxative), but the crazy intense constant craving coupled with absolute physical misery is past.

So yeah, my quit is still alive and well and getting stronger by the day.

It's really just that, and I'm sorry if this seems ungrateful after the help you guys offered me, I've just come to not really like this place very much.

I'm glad I grew up and decided to be a man and not let my wife and a little can control me

I bet/hope she bought him a bunch of life insurance!!!!

Starting to live up to your name.... all sooty, and dirty, and not worth much of anything????

That kind of insulting, demeaning, obnoxious stuff is literally ALL OVER this website and I don't like it at all.

I guess I understand that talking down to people helps you guys in some way to stay quit and if that's what it takes then I'm not going to buck that system because it allowed you to be here for me when I needed y'all most.

And I'm trying to figure out how I can, in turn, be here for the new guy coming in so that I can pay back that debt (what I see as a debt, anyhow).

But it's tough because, like I said, that kind of talk is so prevalent around here.

I'll get it figured out I'm sure.

But in the mean time, I'm proud to be quit with you guys today, even if I do want to wash your mouths out with soap.

Just trying to knock the addict speak out of you and try to impress upon you the importance of posting roll and making some friends to lean on. This place is a tremendously powerful tool to stay quit if you dive in and commit all the way.

[soot]

I'm still quit.

Today is day 9.

Party this past weekend went off without a hitch.

Wound up that I really don't need the medications the doc prescribed.

After about the 5th day the irritability and aggression began to really taper off quickly and I'm no more irritable today than I was prior to my quit.

I was perfectly civil at the party and was even able to help out the way I would have if I'd not been going through this thing.

It seems that the "withdrawal" is over for the most part.

I'm still a little fuzzy in the head, stomach is still not totally settled, still chewing gum like crazy (though I had to find an all natural brand to chew because I was going through so much of it that the sorbitol in regular sugar-free gum was acting as a laxative), but the crazy intense constant craving coupled with absolute physical misery is past.

So yeah, my quit is still alive and well and getting stronger by the day.

It's really just that, and I'm sorry if this seems ungrateful after the help you guys offered me, I've just come to not really like this place very much.

I'm glad I grew up and decided to be a man and not let my wife and a little can control me

I bet/hope she bought him a bunch of life insurance!!!!

Starting to live up to your name.... all sooty, and dirty, and not worth much of anything????

That kind of insulting, demeaning, obnoxious stuff is literally ALL OVER this website and I don't like it at all.

I guess I understand that talking down to people helps you guys in some way to stay quit and if that's what it takes then I'm not going to buck that system because it allowed you to be here for me when I needed y'all most.

And I'm trying to figure out how I can, in turn, be here for the new guy coming in so that I can pay back that debt (what I see as a debt, anyhow).

But it's tough because, like I said, that kind of talk is so prevalent around here.

I'll get it figured out I'm sure.

But in the mean time, I'm proud to be quit with you guys today, even if I do want to wash your mouths out with soap.

[pab1964]

What do ya know. The old wife said go buy a can excuse worked in his mind. The same fucking excuse that I used to relapse on alcohol with many years ago. almost word for word!

He gone! 2 days since last site activity. Not even enough nerve to come back and say he caved (if he did, and its not looking good for him).

I bet/hope she bought him a bunch of life insurance!!!!

Crying ass shame to let a little ass can control your life! I'm glad I grew up and decided to be a man and not let my wife and a little can control me. He fellow if your wife sincerely wants you to go back to sucking death, maybe you should have a serious heart to heart with the woman that claims to love you. Been trying to leave since he signed up. Before you say I quit you need to mean it. No half ass quitting is gonna make it here!

[worktowin]

What do ya know. The old wife said go buy a can excuse worked in his mind. The same fucking excuse that I used to relapse on alcohol with many years ago. almost word for word!

He gone! 2 days since last site activity. Not even enough nerve to come back and say he caved (if he did, and its not looking good for him).

I bet/hope she bought him a bunch of life insurance!!!!

[DjPorkchop]

What do ya know. The old wife said go buy a can excuse worked in his mind. The same fucking excuse that I used to relapse on alcohol with many years ago. almost word for word!

He gone! 2 days since last site activity. Not even enough nerve to come back and say he caved (if he did, and its not looking good for him).

[CavMan83]

I'm here. Still quit.

If you are here and still quit why aren't you posting roll with your group? At LEAST do that. Nothing else matters here more than that daily promise!

^^^^ Yep, post roll. Every damn day. No ifs and's or or's. If you come to this site, you must post roll. It's the price of admission. I and thousands of others pay every day. So can you. It takes 2 whole minutes.. 30 seconds once you have the system down pat.

Well looks like gonna let the wifey and the nic bitch win this one. I cant do this, I'm so much nicer with a dip. Not near as stressed out. How long would she put up with your ass looking at a half of jaw? Man I really had confidence in you but it's not looking good!

Where y'at, Soot? Starting to live up to your name.... all sooty, and dirty, and not worth much of anything???? Get your butt in here and post up your promise, bubba.

[pab1964]

I'm here. Still quit.

If you are here and still quit why aren't you posting roll with your group? At LEAST do that. Nothing else matters here more than that daily promise!

^^^^ Yep, post roll. Every damn day. No ifs and's or or's. If you come to this site, you must post roll. It's the price of admission. I and thousands of others pay every day. So can you. It takes 2 whole minutes.. 30 seconds once you have the system down pat.

Well looks like gonna let the wifey and the nic bitch win this one. I cant do this, I'm so much nicer with a dip. Not near as stressed out. How long would she put up with your ass looking at a half of jaw? Man I really had confidence in you but it's not looking good!

[DjPorkchop]

I'm here. Still quit.

If you are here and still quit why aren't you posting roll with your group? At LEAST do that. Nothing else matters here more than that daily promise!

^^^^ Yep, post roll. Every damn day. No ifs and's or or's. If you come to this site, you must post roll. It's the price of admission. I and thousands of others pay every day. So can you. It takes 2 whole minutes.. 30 seconds once you have the system down pat.

[DjPorkchop]

Umm .... what?

She told me this morning that all of that isn't worth having me quit and to go to the store and buy a tin.

And death is good enough? Kind of confuses me a bit. I used that same exact line word for word when I quit drinking years ago and relapsed. That is a CLASSIC addict line. True or not, every addict uses that line. And no sir, I am not calling you a liar. lol please don't think so.

If death is the answer, I suggest taking a read through Trauma's intro (heres part of it topic/1010002/54/ ). Kind of puts dipping in to perspective a little bit. No this CERTAINLY can't happen to me can it? Fuck yeah it can!!! Well I don't have cancer YET..... You know what yet stands for? Your Eligible Too Cancer is NOT prejudice. It don't give two fucks how rich or poor you are, what color your skin is or where you live. Is knowing this fact worth being bitchy for a week or two? Oh man I hope so! For your sake man I sure hope so.

I know where your wife is coming from (Although .... ---- snip --- Never mind). It's a mother fucker man. My wife went through it to. Not a ONCE did she ever say hey, I would rather you get cancer and die than to give it up. She did tell me to loose my fucking attitude and quickly and left it at that. Yep! that meant talking to the doc about medication. So that part you got going for you. Talk to your doc and get going, just NO NIC REPLACEMENT!

Here is a quick little secret my Dr told me. He was one of them back of the woods old school here drink a can of coke for a stomach ache dr's. he said to me when I quit smoking to chomp on black licorice and get it to mush and put that between the lip and gum like a dip and hold it there until the flavor was gone then spit it out or swallow it. Something about the anise oil in the black licorice is a natural something or other and helps with the craves much like MRT but without using nic. True? Never tried it so I'm not sure. I hate black licorice. Like the genius I am, I used the patch! 'bang head' BUT I quit. I was a 3 pack per day smoker.

Stick with this place and us guys man. The system works. It just works. So many days I logged off and said to my self, what a bunch of fucking cock suckers. Fuck this place I'm not going back. The funny part was, I DID come back day after day and it worked... Correction, it is working. I got it one day. I got why people were suck dicks and I thank every one of them for treating me the way they did. I deserved it. I had a addict mind set in me that was hammered in so deep it would not go away in everything I said and did.

I hate to sound cliche' like a AA meeting, because that is NOT what we do here, but keep coming back. It works if you work it.

Take care man. I quit with you EDD!

Ray 303

[rdad]

I'm here. Still quit.

If you are here and still quit why aren't you posting roll with your group? At LEAST do that. Nothing else matters here more than that daily promise!

[CavMan83]

Hey Dan,

I was you about two years ago.....and a couple of other times before that, but that's another story. At any rate, you've been given some first rate advice. I will tell you that the rage inside is real (some folks are more sensitive to the dopamine receptors shutting down) and I can't argue with going to a physician to help deal with that. I was on Chantix for like a week when I first started, then I wondered why the hell was I taking a drug to stop taking a drug, so I put it down.

Want you to know that the advice to get other's phone numbers and actually use them is about the most solid advice you'll ever receive. It lets you know that you're not alone in this quit. Others who've walked the path before you, are walking it with you, and will walk it after you can ALL help you get off the ledge when the going gets tough. I've lost count of the numbers of other quitters I have in my phone (may be close to 100 now.....). I usually text, but every now and then I actually CALL one of them just to reconnect.

Hope the party goes well (or went well). Just wanted you to know that you are NOT ALONE. Reach out and connect with others. It works. Quit on, brother.

[soot]

I'm here. Still quit.

[ChristopherJ]

Where are you soot?