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Re: Diesel's Intro Page
« Reply #260 on: November 22, 2012, 12:01:00 AM »
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Enjoy your Freedom Bro. Diesel2112, as you have earned it!
I quit TODAY with you on this Turkey day eve.
My first poison free Turkey day in 30 yrs.
Stay very strong sir! Remember, it is always ONE day at a TiMe with our addiction! I quit with you and pray for you.
Enjoy the games, Cheers!
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The act of a noble warrior. Who lost the will to fight."

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Re: Diesel's Intro Page
« Reply #259 on: November 21, 2012, 07:23:00 PM »
Enjoy your Freedom Bro. Diesel2112, as you have earned it!
I quit TODAY with you on this Turkey day eve.
My first poison free Turkey day in 30 yrs.
Stay very strong sir! Remember, it is always ONE day at a TiMe with our addiction! I quit with you and pray for you.
Enjoy the games, Cheers!
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Re: Diesel's Intro Page
« Reply #258 on: November 21, 2012, 05:45:00 PM »
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Had a little "pep in my step" today as I always do the Wed before Thanksgiving. For YEARS the tradition has been the same. Hoops with the old gang at my old high school at night, Lions game with my Uncles and Brothers on T giving and then over to my Aunts for an absolute FEAST and then my wife joins the mass of dumb dumbs and goes midnight shopping. She loves it though, so whatever.

I love every bit of it, and is one of my favorite times of the year, hence the extra pep today at work, but in the back of my mind I felt "something" was missing...oh yeah, my old friend "kodiak" had been part of all this for the past 15 years. In my addicted mind he was the ultimate "enhancer".

Basketball, Lions game, eat til you pass out, house to yourself as kids sleep and wife is gone...how could life get any better? Oh yeah load up the lip with some kodiak and make a great moment even better. What a bunch of bullshit that was. A complete and total fucking lie.

That crap didn't make ANY of that better, in fact, looking back it made it worse. Always scheming when I could get my dips in, planting cans in the basement and worrying if I found them all or if my wife would find one, constantly calling my wife asking her if she was okay and to call me when she was on her way home because I was worried about her...yeah right I just wanted the warning she was on her way home so I could clean up and hide my shit again. And oh yeah, always in the back of my mind was the fear of cancer and dieing, but don't let that stop you. Just keep "enhancing" the fun. What a slave I was, bottom of the barrel loser.

No "man" should live like that. That's a fucking COWARD way to live...but I lived it and am ashamed of it.

Not today bitches. I still had the extra bounce at work, I still am pumped to hoop tonight, I'm still excited to see the lions lose tomorrow with 4 of the favorite guys in my life, I will still call my wife asking if shes okay and to call me on her way home...but this time it will be because I really do care.

I don't need that shit. I never did. It hooked me BAAAD and tricked me for 15 years but this year I turn the tables. This year for the first time in 15 years I'm doing Thanksgiving as a MAN...and it feels fucking great. Fuck kodiak, fuck nicotine, fuck being a slave, fuck it all.

Be thankful. Be thankful for you're family, you're friends, you're huge quit balls, you're FREEDOM and your life!

Quit on brothers and happy Thanks fucking Giving.
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Re: Diesel's Intro Page
« Reply #257 on: November 21, 2012, 05:22:00 PM »
Had a little "pep in my step" today as I always do the Wed before Thanksgiving. For YEARS the tradition has been the same. Hoops with the old gang at my old high school at night, Lions game with my Uncles and Brothers on T giving and then over to my Aunts for an absolute FEAST and then my wife joins the mass of dumb dumbs and goes midnight shopping. She loves it though, so whatever.

I love every bit of it, and is one of my favorite times of the year, hence the extra pep today at work, but in the back of my mind I felt "something" was missing...oh yeah, my old friend "kodiak" had been part of all this for the past 15 years. In my addicted mind he was the ultimate "enhancer".

Basketball, Lions game, eat til you pass out, house to yourself as kids sleep and wife is gone...how could life get any better? Oh yeah load up the lip with some kodiak and make a great moment even better. What a bunch of bullshit that was. A complete and total fucking lie.

That crap didn't make ANY of that better, in fact, looking back it made it worse. Always scheming when I could get my dips in, planting cans in the basement and worrying if I found them all or if my wife would find one, constantly calling my wife asking her if she was okay and to call me when she was on her way home because I was worried about her...yeah right I just wanted the warning she was on her way home so I could clean up and hide my shit again. And oh yeah, always in the back of my mind was the fear of cancer and dieing, but don't let that stop you. Just keep "enhancing" the fun. What a slave I was, bottom of the barrel loser.

No "man" should live like that. That's a fucking COWARD way to live...but I lived it and am ashamed of it.

Not today bitches. I still had the extra bounce at work, I still am pumped to hoop tonight, I'm still excited to see the lions lose tomorrow with 4 of the favorite guys in my life, I will still call my wife asking if shes okay and to call me on her way home...but this time it will be because I really do care.

I don't need that shit. I never did. It hooked me BAAAD and tricked me for 15 years but this year I turn the tables. This year for the first time in 15 years I'm doing Thanksgiving as a MAN...and it feels fucking great. Fuck kodiak, fuck nicotine, fuck being a slave, fuck it all.

Be thankful. Be thankful for you're family, you're friends, you're huge quit balls, you're FREEDOM and your life!

Quit on brothers and happy Thanks fucking Giving.
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"Celebrate the moment as it turns into one more"..
"You can fight without ever winning, but never ever win, win without a fight".
"Onion rings...funyons. A connection? Yeah. I fucking think so."
"Honest Abe had a fake jaw".
"In a world that seems so small, I can't stop thinking big"
"Someone set a bad example. Made surrender seem all right
The act of a noble warrior. Who lost the will to fight."

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Re: Diesel's Intro Page
« Reply #256 on: November 20, 2012, 01:39:00 PM »
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First of all, man...good for you.

Not everybody can be saved.  But if one person reads your comments and quits...that person can be.  I'm proud of you.

Secondly, this good doc is full of crap and not just because he is funded by tobacco but because he is saying what we (as users) wanted him to say back then:  it is too impossible to quit nicotine.  He feeds the fear in the these users' heads by telling them "nobody blames you for not being able to quit.  It's OK to fail."

Bull-fucking-shit.

First off, his major hypothesis is that people "cannot or will not quit smoking" so (obviously) replacing cigarettes with snus will lead to "quitting".  First off....duh on the vehicle replacement.  If I didn't hate nicotine so much I might make a nicotine anal plug and claim it is just as effective to aid in "quitting" and is completely invisible to avoid the stigma of people seeing you with something on your mouth.  Would you feed an alcoholic that prefers vodka beers and mouthwash to cure him?  No. 

Secondly, let's concentrate on the "cannot or will not" aspect.  What is the percentage of people on this earth that can live without nicotine?  Is it 100%?  Would anybody die if they didn't get their fix?  No.  So, that means that people cannot "cannot " quit.  That means that's 100% of these users "will not" or "do not want to" quit.  Again...duh. 

His research claims that that sinus lusers lose 15 days of their lives compared to 8 years for smokers.  Physically, I can't disagree with this because...well.  what are we contending?  Does he have a pathway to an alternate dimension where he is tracking these alternate users that are not using over there?  How the fuck does he know?  It's because he is looking at the probability of getting diseases "directly" associated with chewing.  That means the high blood pressure, sleep apnea, circulation issues, etc that comes with the addiction are not included.  Besides, even if I concede the "8 days lost", how many days are spent procuring, using, hiding with your fix?  And it also assumes that users do not need more and more product to feed the addiction.

He is the little voice around that helps peddle this smut.  He is nothing because, ultimately, be can't make people use.  That's up to every one of us.

You're doing a great job.  Keep it up.

Fuck this guy.
I agree and those were some of the points I brought up with the Doctor as we emailed back and forth. He CLAIMED he does not encourage the use of tobacco to anybody, only that he is making people aware of "safer" alternatives to smoking through his tobacco harm reduction campaign. Like hes doing everyone a big favor by recommending replacing nicotine with...nicotine.

I also got him to admit that "chew" like Cope, Kodiak, Skoal, etc...is more harmful than Swedish snuss because of the additional sweeteners and chemicals added to American dip.

I also pointed out that all these kids who are taking his book as a green light to continue dipping aren't using snuss pouches. They're loading their lips with over sized pinches of chew that contain as much nicotine as 3-5 cigarettes. That's when he ended it and said I was doing the right thing and wished me luck.

Fuck it. I'm not afraid to mix it up with a Doctor. Lord knows ive done dumber things in my life, like poision myself with kodiak for 15 years.
So, basically, you won the argument?

Bravo, sir.

Here's the thing. I had to try to watch that video you did. It's fucking idiocy.

Don't believe their lies. The one dude is making money selling spittoons to people while quoting source material advocating spitless snus, and the other is funded primarily by tobacco.

You are living, breathing example of the ability to quit. You are Santa Clause to them.
No sense can come from a dude named "Mudjug".
That Mudjug guy is an idiot. I did not watch the video you guys are talking about but I've seen some of his other stuff. Poke around Youtube and you will find lots of vids of people celebrating dipping. Outlaw is another guy that has dipping vids all over the place. While I didn't watch that vid, I did read though some of the comments. A lot of them are by teenage guys that are young and stupid and easily influenced. I was there once. I started when I was 15. There isn't a lot you can tell a 15 year old kid that is gonna change his mind. People like this asshole Mudjug guy contribute to the whole dipping "lifestyle" that appeals to these kids. It's a shame and it's irresponsible.
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Re: Diesel's Intro Page
« Reply #255 on: November 15, 2012, 10:41:00 PM »
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First of all, man...good for you.

Not everybody can be saved.  But if one person reads your comments and quits...that person can be.  I'm proud of you.

Secondly, this good doc is full of crap and not just because he is funded by tobacco but because he is saying what we (as users) wanted him to say back then:  it is too impossible to quit nicotine.  He feeds the fear in the these users' heads by telling them "nobody blames you for not being able to quit.  It's OK to fail."

Bull-fucking-shit.

First off, his major hypothesis is that people "cannot or will not quit smoking" so (obviously) replacing cigarettes with snus will lead to "quitting".  First off....duh on the vehicle replacement.  If I didn't hate nicotine so much I might make a nicotine anal plug and claim it is just as effective to aid in "quitting" and is completely invisible to avoid the stigma of people seeing you with something on your mouth.  Would you feed an alcoholic that prefers vodka beers and mouthwash to cure him?  No. 

Secondly, let's concentrate on the "cannot or will not" aspect.  What is the percentage of people on this earth that can live without nicotine?  Is it 100%?  Would anybody die if they didn't get their fix?  No.  So, that means that people cannot "cannot " quit.  That means that's 100% of these users "will not" or "do not want to" quit.  Again...duh. 

His research claims that that sinus lusers lose 15 days of their lives compared to 8 years for smokers.  Physically, I can't disagree with this because...well.  what are we contending?  Does he have a pathway to an alternate dimension where he is tracking these alternate users that are not using over there?  How the fuck does he know?  It's because he is looking at the probability of getting diseases "directly" associated with chewing.  That means the high blood pressure, sleep apnea, circulation issues, etc that comes with the addiction are not included.  Besides, even if I concede the "8 days lost", how many days are spent procuring, using, hiding with your fix?  And it also assumes that users do not need more and more product to feed the addiction.

He is the little voice around that helps peddle this smut.  He is nothing because, ultimately, be can't make people use.  That's up to every one of us.

You're doing a great job.  Keep it up.

Fuck this guy.
I agree and those were some of the points I brought up with the Doctor as we emailed back and forth. He CLAIMED he does not encourage the use of tobacco to anybody, only that he is making people aware of "safer" alternatives to smoking through his tobacco harm reduction campaign. Like hes doing everyone a big favor by recommending replacing nicotine with...nicotine.

I also got him to admit that "chew" like Cope, Kodiak, Skoal, etc...is more harmful than Swedish snuss because of the additional sweeteners and chemicals added to American dip.

I also pointed out that all these kids who are taking his book as a green light to continue dipping aren't using snuss pouches. They're loading their lips with over sized pinches of chew that contain as much nicotine as 3-5 cigarettes. That's when he ended it and said I was doing the right thing and wished me luck.

Fuck it. I'm not afraid to mix it up with a Doctor. Lord knows ive done dumber things in my life, like poision myself with kodiak for 15 years.
So, basically, you won the argument?

Bravo, sir.

Here's the thing. I had to try to watch that video you did. It's fucking idiocy.

Don't believe their lies. The one dude is making money selling spittoons to people while quoting source material advocating spitless snus, and the other is funded primarily by tobacco.

You are living, breathing example of the ability to quit. You are Santa Clause to them.
No sense can come from a dude named "Mudjug".
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"You can fight without ever winning, but never ever win, win without a fight".
"Onion rings...funyons. A connection? Yeah. I fucking think so."
"Honest Abe had a fake jaw".
"In a world that seems so small, I can't stop thinking big"
"Someone set a bad example. Made surrender seem all right
The act of a noble warrior. Who lost the will to fight."

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Re: Diesel's Intro Page
« Reply #254 on: November 15, 2012, 04:46:00 PM »
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First of all, man...good for you.

Not everybody can be saved.  But if one person reads your comments and quits...that person can be.  I'm proud of you.

Secondly, this good doc is full of crap and not just because he is funded by tobacco but because he is saying what we (as users) wanted him to say back then:  it is too impossible to quit nicotine.  He feeds the fear in the these users' heads by telling them "nobody blames you for not being able to quit.  It's OK to fail."

Bull-fucking-shit.

First off, his major hypothesis is that people "cannot or will not quit smoking" so (obviously) replacing cigarettes with snus will lead to "quitting".  First off....duh on the vehicle replacement.  If I didn't hate nicotine so much I might make a nicotine anal plug and claim it is just as effective to aid in "quitting" and is completely invisible to avoid the stigma of people seeing you with something on your mouth.  Would you feed an alcoholic that prefers vodka beers and mouthwash to cure him?  No. 

Secondly, let's concentrate on the "cannot or will not" aspect.  What is the percentage of people on this earth that can live without nicotine?  Is it 100%?  Would anybody die if they didn't get their fix?  No.  So, that means that people cannot "cannot " quit.  That means that's 100% of these users "will not" or "do not want to" quit.  Again...duh. 

His research claims that that sinus lusers lose 15 days of their lives compared to 8 years for smokers.  Physically, I can't disagree with this because...well.  what are we contending?  Does he have a pathway to an alternate dimension where he is tracking these alternate users that are not using over there?  How the fuck does he know?  It's because he is looking at the probability of getting diseases "directly" associated with chewing.  That means the high blood pressure, sleep apnea, circulation issues, etc that comes with the addiction are not included.  Besides, even if I concede the "8 days lost", how many days are spent procuring, using, hiding with your fix?  And it also assumes that users do not need more and more product to feed the addiction.

He is the little voice around that helps peddle this smut.  He is nothing because, ultimately, be can't make people use.  That's up to every one of us.

You're doing a great job.  Keep it up.

Fuck this guy.
I agree and those were some of the points I brought up with the Doctor as we emailed back and forth. He CLAIMED he does not encourage the use of tobacco to anybody, only that he is making people aware of "safer" alternatives to smoking through his tobacco harm reduction campaign. Like hes doing everyone a big favor by recommending replacing nicotine with...nicotine.

I also got him to admit that "chew" like Cope, Kodiak, Skoal, etc...is more harmful than Swedish snuss because of the additional sweeteners and chemicals added to American dip.

I also pointed out that all these kids who are taking his book as a green light to continue dipping aren't using snuss pouches. They're loading their lips with over sized pinches of chew that contain as much nicotine as 3-5 cigarettes. That's when he ended it and said I was doing the right thing and wished me luck.

Fuck it. I'm not afraid to mix it up with a Doctor. Lord knows ive done dumber things in my life, like poision myself with kodiak for 15 years.
So, basically, you won the argument?

Bravo, sir.

Here's the thing. I had to try to watch that video you did. It's fucking idiocy.

Don't believe their lies. The one dude is making money selling spittoons to people while quoting source material advocating spitless snus, and the other is funded primarily by tobacco.

You are living, breathing example of the ability to quit. You are Santa Clause to them.
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Re: Diesel's Intro Page
« Reply #253 on: November 15, 2012, 03:24:00 PM »
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First of all, man...good for you.

Not everybody can be saved. But if one person reads your comments and quits...that person can be. I'm proud of you.

Secondly, this good doc is full of crap and not just because he is funded by tobacco but because he is saying what we (as users) wanted him to say back then: it is too impossible to quit nicotine. He feeds the fear in the these users' heads by telling them "nobody blames you for not being able to quit. It's OK to fail."

Bull-fucking-shit.

First off, his major hypothesis is that people "cannot or will not quit smoking" so (obviously) replacing cigarettes with snus will lead to "quitting". First off....duh on the vehicle replacement. If I didn't hate nicotine so much I might make a nicotine anal plug and claim it is just as effective to aid in "quitting" and is completely invisible to avoid the stigma of people seeing you with something on your mouth. Would you feed an alcoholic that prefers vodka beers and mouthwash to cure him? No.

Secondly, let's concentrate on the "cannot or will not" aspect. What is the percentage of people on this earth that can live without nicotine? Is it 100%? Would anybody die if they didn't get their fix? No. So, that means that people cannot "cannot " quit. That means that's 100% of these users "will not" or "do not want to" quit. Again...duh.

His research claims that that sinus lusers lose 15 days of their lives compared to 8 years for smokers. Physically, I can't disagree with this because...well. what are we contending? Does he have a pathway to an alternate dimension where he is tracking these alternate users that are not using over there? How the fuck does he know? It's because he is looking at the probability of getting diseases "directly" associated with chewing. That means the high blood pressure, sleep apnea, circulation issues, etc that comes with the addiction are not included. Besides, even if I concede the "8 days lost", how many days are spent procuring, using, hiding with your fix? And it also assumes that users do not need more and more product to feed the addiction.

He is the little voice around that helps peddle this smut. He is nothing because, ultimately, be can't make people use. That's up to every one of us.

You're doing a great job. Keep it up.

Fuck this guy.
I agree and those were some of the points I brought up with the Doctor as we emailed back and forth. He CLAIMED he does not encourage the use of tobacco to anybody, only that he is making people aware of "safer" alternatives to smoking through his tobacco harm reduction campaign. Like hes doing everyone a big favor by recommending replacing nicotine with...nicotine.

I also got him to admit that "chew" like Cope, Kodiak, Skoal, etc...is more harmful than Swedish snuss because of the additional sweeteners and chemicals added to American dip.

I also pointed out that all these kids who are taking his book as a green light to continue dipping aren't using snuss pouches. They're loading their lips with over sized pinches of chew that contain as much nicotine as 3-5 cigarettes. That's when he ended it and said I was doing the right thing and wished me luck.

Fuck it. I'm not afraid to mix it up with a Doctor. Lord knows ive done dumber things in my life, like poision myself with kodiak for 15 years.
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"Celebrate the moment as it turns into one more"..
"You can fight without ever winning, but never ever win, win without a fight".
"Onion rings...funyons. A connection? Yeah. I fucking think so."
"Honest Abe had a fake jaw".
"In a world that seems so small, I can't stop thinking big"
"Someone set a bad example. Made surrender seem all right
The act of a noble warrior. Who lost the will to fight."

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Re: Diesel's Intro Page
« Reply #252 on: November 15, 2012, 03:09:00 PM »
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Dude here's a bad ass NECK CHOP that will get you fired up and ready.
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"Celebrate the moment as it turns into one more"..
"You can fight without ever winning, but never ever win, win without a fight".
"Onion rings...funyons. A connection? Yeah. I fucking think so."
"Honest Abe had a fake jaw".
"In a world that seems so small, I can't stop thinking big"
"Someone set a bad example. Made surrender seem all right
The act of a noble warrior. Who lost the will to fight."

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Re: Diesel's Intro Page
« Reply #251 on: November 15, 2012, 10:42:00 AM »
First of all, man...good for you.

Not everybody can be saved. But if one person reads your comments and quits...that person can be. I'm proud of you.

Secondly, this good doc is full of crap and not just because he is funded by tobacco but because he is saying what we (as users) wanted him to say back then: it is too impossible to quit nicotine. He feeds the fear in the these users' heads by telling them "nobody blames you for not being able to quit. It's OK to fail."

Bull-fucking-shit.

First off, his major hypothesis is that people "cannot or will not quit smoking" so (obviously) replacing cigarettes with snus will lead to "quitting". First off....duh on the vehicle replacement. If I didn't hate nicotine so much I might make a nicotine anal plug and claim it is just as effective to aid in "quitting" and is completely invisible to avoid the stigma of people seeing you with something on your mouth. Would you feed an alcoholic that prefers vodka beers and mouthwash to cure him? No.

Secondly, let's concentrate on the "cannot or will not" aspect. What is the percentage of people on this earth that can live without nicotine? Is it 100%? Would anybody die if they didn't get their fix? No. So, that means that people cannot "cannot " quit. That means that's 100% of these users "will not" or "do not want to" quit. Again...duh.

His research claims that that sinus lusers lose 15 days of their lives compared to 8 years for smokers. Physically, I can't disagree with this because...well. what are we contending? Does he have a pathway to an alternate dimension where he is tracking these alternate users that are not using over there? How the fuck does he know? It's because he is looking at the probability of getting diseases "directly" associated with chewing. That means the high blood pressure, sleep apnea, circulation issues, etc that comes with the addiction are not included. Besides, even if I concede the "8 days lost", how many days are spent procuring, using, hiding with your fix? And it also assumes that users do not need more and more product to feed the addiction.

He is the little voice around that helps peddle this smut. He is nothing because, ultimately, be can't make people use. That's up to every one of us.

You're doing a great job. Keep it up.

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Re: Diesel's Intro Page
« Reply #250 on: November 15, 2012, 10:25:00 AM »
Dude here's a bad ass NECK CHOP that will get you fired up and ready.

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Re: Diesel's Intro Page
« Reply #249 on: November 15, 2012, 10:09:00 AM »
Thanks guys. I couldn't listen to his crap without giving a few shots.

The emails with the doctor who wrote the book were interesting as well. I actually think he is just as bad as this Mudjug clown. His book was funded by the tobacco companies, it's no wonder what what his findings were.

I don't care if the guy has more degrees than a thermometer and is a million times smarter than me. Anyone who trumpets for big tobacco is a twat nugget and if they fuck with my quit for even a second is gonna get a piece of my mind.

Fuck all of them. I'm quit with the biatches on this site, who have balls of fucking steel to say no to tobacco/nic. A real man can quit, a fucking coward can come up with a bunch of bullshit to justify being a slave to a known poison that is known not only to kill you, but fuck up your bran, ruin relationships, drain bank accounts, and basically rule your life.

I don't need a fucking PHD or to write a book to know this shit. I fucking LIVED the lie for 15 years!!!

Ok, I gotta settle down, I'm starting to steam and want to punch someone in the throat.

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Re: Diesel's Intro Page
« Reply #248 on: November 15, 2012, 09:56:00 AM »
This mudjug dude is a loser. he's full of lies. Anyone who would tell kids it's ok to chew is an idiot.

Fifty days ago I might have believed it. How I feel now just confirms how much of a poison that shit is!

Great stuff Diesel!
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Re: Diesel's Intro Page
« Reply #247 on: November 15, 2012, 08:36:00 AM »
Holy Schnikes! That is awesome dude. I saw that video on youtube too... I don't understand how anyone can argue for a product that rips the inside of my lip to shreds, causes my gums to corrode, takes my teeth away, and even 120 days after quitting it still makes my tongue hurt. Thank you for taking on this issue.

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Re: Diesel's Intro Page
« Reply #246 on: November 15, 2012, 02:12:00 AM »
Way to call that Sh!t for what it was Diesel. Like the don't back down attitude.. I'm Quit with you today!
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