Howdy - here I go ...

[Scowick65]

Had a great retreat weekend serving my brothers in Christ. I thank my Brother DaBean for his never ending support here at KTC. I thank all you other brothers who thought that I was trying to find reasons for failing because it just lets me know how I have to keep my quit strong with just a couple real brothers and most of all with my Lord.

Here's to the strong quit brothers!

keep cranking the quit

[BearHawk]

Had a great retreat weekend serving my brothers in Christ. I thank my Brother DaBean for his never ending support here at KTC. I thank all you other brothers who thought that I was trying to find reasons for failing because it just lets me know how I have to keep my quit strong with just a couple real brothers and most of all with my Lord.

Here's to the strong quit brothers!

[BearHawk]

Not caving, Staying strong in my quit.  This is one proven crazy group of Brethren.  At any rate ... So I am going to be working as the head cook on a men's spiritual growth weekend at the end of this coming week (Friday through Sunday) and I will be mostly without any sort of communications.  I do plan if at all possible to post via text if I can but just in case any of you out there think that I am caving or not posting for any other reason don't even go there.  I am staying quit with all of you and if I am not able to post believe me I will be thinking about it and keeping quit with all of you. 

For those of you that think I am looking for a reason to cave or leave this site you are so totally wrong.  I am an addict and the one thing I have learned over the last 220 days of quit is that I don't need an excuse ... I have any intention of going back to snuff I will come right out and tell you all that I suck and I am caving. 

If I am away this upcoming weekend it is because I a doing work for God and my Lord and serving others and not because I am caving. 

Hang Loose My Brothers and Sisters YBIC

Well alllll-righty then!

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Emmaus walk? If it is I am familiar. You are not allowed any form of outside communication. If not why the explanation? But if your working then that is different you can talk all you want. If not you can let a worker text for you..

If you have ever been on the Walk To Emmaus they you know that as the head cook I may get too busy to stop and text. But if I am able I will text my promise. I am staying quit my brothers and no matter how hard you and everyone want to push your doubts upon me I will not fall.

[Emulator]

Not caving, Staying strong in my quit.  This is one proven crazy group of Brethren.  At any rate ... So I am going to be working as the head cook on a men's spiritual growth weekend at the end of this coming week (Friday through Sunday) and I will be mostly without any sort of communications.  I do plan if at all possible to post via text if I can but just in case any of you out there think that I am caving or not posting for any other reason don't even go there.  I am staying quit with all of you and if I am not able to post believe me I will be thinking about it and keeping quit with all of you. 

For those of you that think I am looking for a reason to cave or leave this site you are so totally wrong.  I am an addict and the one thing I have learned over the last 220 days of quit is that I don't need an excuse ... I have any intention of going back to snuff I will come right out and tell you all that I suck and I am caving. 

If I am away this upcoming weekend it is because I a doing work for God and my Lord and serving others and not because I am caving. 

Hang Loose My Brothers and Sisters YBIC

Well alllll-righty then!

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Emmaus walk? If it is I am familiar. You are not allowed any form of outside communication. If not why the explanation? But if your working then that is different you can talk all you want. If not you can let a worker text for you..

[SAM83]

Not caving, Staying strong in my quit. This is one proven crazy group of Brethren. At any rate ... So I am going to be working as the head cook on a men's spiritual growth weekend at the end of this coming week (Friday through Sunday) and I will be mostly without any sort of communications. I do plan if at all possible to post via text if I can but just in case any of you out there think that I am caving or not posting for any other reason don't even go there. I am staying quit with all of you and if I am not able to post believe me I will be thinking about it and keeping quit with all of you.

For those of you that think I am looking for a reason to cave or leave this site you are so totally wrong. I am an addict and the one thing I have learned over the last 220 days of quit is that I don't need an excuse ... I have any intention of going back to snuff I will come right out and tell you all that I suck and I am caving.

If I am away this upcoming weekend it is because I a doing work for God and my Lord and serving others and not because I am caving.

Hang Loose My Brothers and Sisters YBIC

Well alllll-righty then!

[BearHawk]

Not caving, Staying strong in my quit. This is one proven crazy group of Brethren. At any rate ... So I am going to be working as the head cook on a men's spiritual growth weekend at the end of this coming week (Friday through Sunday) and I will be mostly without any sort of communications. I do plan if at all possible to post via text if I can but just in case any of you out there think that I am caving or not posting for any other reason don't even go there. I am staying quit with all of you and if I am not able to post believe me I will be thinking about it and keeping quit with all of you.

For those of you that think I am looking for a reason to cave or leave this site you are so totally wrong. I am an addict and the one thing I have learned over the last 220 days of quit is that I don't need an excuse ... I have any intention of going back to snuff I will come right out and tell you all that I suck and I am caving.

If I am away this upcoming weekend it is because I a doing work for God and my Lord and serving others and not because I am caving.

Hang Loose My Brothers and Sisters YBIC

[apogeeammo]

I spent some time going back over and reading items in the quit groups and in other sections and I get why a lot of people just don't stay here.� Now I am a trained observer and after 20 years in the military and 15 in the Security Business the harsh and harassing way the brothers here treat people who don't fall in line exactly like they want them too really turns people off.� If this site hadn't helped keep me quit so well and because I don't give a flying rats ass how dick cheeses think I should think I would have left back too.�

But you know what I quit on my terms and for right now at this point in my quit I am staying here ... not because I feel I have to but because I want to.� I made a commitment to myself and I am going to hang in.� There is a lot going on in my life right now and I am not going to loose my cool if I slip up and miss a post; it won't toss me off the train and make me dip.�

But one day ... down the tracks a ways I will be ready to face life without posting daily, or weekly or even at all.� And you know what ... I won't feel bad about it.

BTW - Congratulations to all my brothers who have gone before me and those who are following me on keep your quit strong.

I don't get your anti-KTC vibe and what your trying to achieve with your comments. You are not helping anyone quit.

You have been quit 200+ days and only have 255 posts. If you want to be helpful, then why don't you jump in and try helping others. Show everyone how it is done. With all your years of experience it sounds like you could be helpful if you wanted to pay it forward. From what I can see you have done very little of that since you joined. It looks like you just like to sit out and throw pot shots at those who are actually trying to help the newbies quit. Just so I am clear, I am not being sarcastic here at all or trying to be an ass... I am dead serious. Start paying it forward. That is how this place works. You could help someone find their freedom!

The reason people most people leave is because they cave  can't break free from their enslavement to nicotine. Most go back to using! I am sure others leave and stay quit. That is great if that works for them. Saying that they leave because they are treated poorly is a "caver" BS reason.

People respond to different methods of encouragement, support and talk. What works for some will not work for others. It takes a wide array of personalities to support a wide array of personalities. You are not going to like what everyone has to say  this site is not designed for you to like what EVERYONE has to say. Some people respond to getting yelled at and others close down. Others need a softer approach. That is why we tell everyone... take what you need and leave the rest.

There is a method to KTC and people need to fall in line if they choose to quit this way. Like it or not.... that is what saved you. You need to work your quit every day. You are an addict and you can never have just one. We post roll every day and stay quit for that day. We support each other as best we can. Anything short of that should not be applauded. If people can't deal with that then they need to leave and quit somewhere else.

KTC is not broke. The KTC way works if you choose to use it.

No one is telling Bearhawk he needs to stay here the rest of his life. You can leave whenever you want. But I'd like to see you stay and save a few folks from their addiction to this evil poison. How does that sound?

I hear what you are saying BearHawk. Some may not need this site forever no one has said that you have to stay here forever but the way I see it and yes this is my own opinion what does it hurt to come here everyday and post my name and say I will not use. It also doesn't hurt to post with others. It also doesn't hurt to post in a few threads. I have said things in some threads that I had forgotten all about and thought it didn't really make an impact but I have gotten PM's later that said thank you. I say thank you to them for allowing me to take part in their quits. In my opinion again the time I spend here is but a fraction of time that I used to spend killing myself.

I am eternally grateful that I found KTC I have been here everyday for 332 days and I plan to stay here for awhile. I was picked up when I got here by people that were just a little bit ahead of me and people who had been here for a long time point is that is the pay it forward and back. I have stayed here because all other attempts to quit were unsuccessful they were stoppages. You quit only once. I was met with different personalities some soft some hard but I needed it. I knew these people here were not going to give me a pass and I knew I had found my home.

As for you BearHawk you have a lot of time in the military and experiences I would like to see you share your knowledge and pay it forward and back. You know structure you know subculture you were from a subculture and you know each one has its own customs and courtesies. I would like to see you put it all out there and take a new scared, fogged out their gourd quitter under your wing and stay with them from day one until they hit the hall and who knows beyond. I think that would give you a different perspective on what KTC is.

"I was reading here the other day and this ass wipe was saying that we who post daily are self-centered ass holes and I guess in a way he is right. I am centered on my quit and coming here is all about me staying quit so in a way in is all about me. But then of course the shit bag was all wrong too. I stay here and stay quit to encourage others to do the same and be just like me and the thousands of others who stay quit for life.

Reading the upcoming events and I see brothers who have been quit for 8 years and I think because of them I am going to stay here that long and I am going to stay here so other newbies can see how it goes, step by step, me at 134 days and the next guy at 200 and there is a sister at one year and then there are bothers at 1000 days and so on. Man this place amazes me and I am all for the power of quit. "

YOU wrote this a few months ago here on this wall. I like this attitude better. You were positive. Something has happened lately. The only posts I see from you are ones talking down on KTC. You are free to have your own opinion, but if you are upset because of an offense here, then try to look past that offense and remember all the good you have seen here as well. I think you have some good relationships. Make some new ones. It may help you as much as a new guy.

Boy, the past can come back to haunt in many ways. Good find, Jake.

Just how I thought it would turn out. I ran the test and the results are confirmed. Thank you all so much for those wonderful words of wisdom. I am taking them to heart.

I went to pm with you and I feel I got just as much Sarcasm as your post. Not sure what these tests are you are conducting but what I will tell you is that if this is just some game for you knock it off I am investing time w you because u are military we share two brotherhoods so if you're being an attention whore knock it off grow up n pay it forward. Or what u trying to have a swan song like ur buddies.

I think you mentioned drama a while back somewhere. Don't feel like looking it up. Seems to me your the chief. Just saying!

Would be nice to see you try and help someone for a change.

I'm still a 74 day newbie but I smell someone looking for a reason to blame KTC drama for a cave! Call it a test or whatever, here's some more confirmation for you, we are not giving you permission to drop a turd in your lip!

[srans]

I spent some time going back over and reading items in the quit groups and in other sections and I get why a lot of people just don't stay here.� Now I am a trained observer and after 20 years in the military and 15 in the Security Business the harsh and harassing way the brothers here treat people who don't fall in line exactly like they want them too really turns people off.� If this site hadn't helped keep me quit so well and because I don't give a flying rats ass how dick cheeses think I should think I would have left back too.�

But you know what I quit on my terms and for right now at this point in my quit I am staying here ... not because I feel I have to but because I want to.� I made a commitment to myself and I am going to hang in.� There is a lot going on in my life right now and I am not going to loose my cool if I slip up and miss a post; it won't toss me off the train and make me dip.�

But one day ... down the tracks a ways I will be ready to face life without posting daily, or weekly or even at all.� And you know what ... I won't feel bad about it.

BTW - Congratulations to all my brothers who have gone before me and those who are following me on keep your quit strong.

I don't get your anti-KTC vibe and what your trying to achieve with your comments. You are not helping anyone quit.

You have been quit 200+ days and only have 255 posts. If you want to be helpful, then why don't you jump in and try helping others. Show everyone how it is done. With all your years of experience it sounds like you could be helpful if you wanted to pay it forward. From what I can see you have done very little of that since you joined. It looks like you just like to sit out and throw pot shots at those who are actually trying to help the newbies quit. Just so I am clear, I am not being sarcastic here at all or trying to be an ass... I am dead serious. Start paying it forward. That is how this place works. You could help someone find their freedom!

The reason people most people leave is because they cave  can't break free from their enslavement to nicotine. Most go back to using! I am sure others leave and stay quit. That is great if that works for them. Saying that they leave because they are treated poorly is a "caver" BS reason.

People respond to different methods of encouragement, support and talk. What works for some will not work for others. It takes a wide array of personalities to support a wide array of personalities. You are not going to like what everyone has to say  this site is not designed for you to like what EVERYONE has to say. Some people respond to getting yelled at and others close down. Others need a softer approach. That is why we tell everyone... take what you need and leave the rest.

There is a method to KTC and people need to fall in line if they choose to quit this way. Like it or not.... that is what saved you. You need to work your quit every day. You are an addict and you can never have just one. We post roll every day and stay quit for that day. We support each other as best we can. Anything short of that should not be applauded. If people can't deal with that then they need to leave and quit somewhere else.

KTC is not broke. The KTC way works if you choose to use it.

No one is telling Bearhawk he needs to stay here the rest of his life. You can leave whenever you want. But I'd like to see you stay and save a few folks from their addiction to this evil poison. How does that sound?

I hear what you are saying BearHawk. Some may not need this site forever no one has said that you have to stay here forever but the way I see it and yes this is my own opinion what does it hurt to come here everyday and post my name and say I will not use. It also doesn't hurt to post with others. It also doesn't hurt to post in a few threads. I have said things in some threads that I had forgotten all about and thought it didn't really make an impact but I have gotten PM's later that said thank you. I say thank you to them for allowing me to take part in their quits. In my opinion again the time I spend here is but a fraction of time that I used to spend killing myself.

I am eternally grateful that I found KTC I have been here everyday for 332 days and I plan to stay here for awhile. I was picked up when I got here by people that were just a little bit ahead of me and people who had been here for a long time point is that is the pay it forward and back. I have stayed here because all other attempts to quit were unsuccessful they were stoppages. You quit only once. I was met with different personalities some soft some hard but I needed it. I knew these people here were not going to give me a pass and I knew I had found my home.

As for you BearHawk you have a lot of time in the military and experiences I would like to see you share your knowledge and pay it forward and back. You know structure you know subculture you were from a subculture and you know each one has its own customs and courtesies. I would like to see you put it all out there and take a new scared, fogged out their gourd quitter under your wing and stay with them from day one until they hit the hall and who knows beyond. I think that would give you a different perspective on what KTC is.

"I was reading here the other day and this ass wipe was saying that we who post daily are self-centered ass holes and I guess in a way he is right. I am centered on my quit and coming here is all about me staying quit so in a way in is all about me. But then of course the shit bag was all wrong too. I stay here and stay quit to encourage others to do the same and be just like me and the thousands of others who stay quit for life.

Reading the upcoming events and I see brothers who have been quit for 8 years and I think because of them I am going to stay here that long and I am going to stay here so other newbies can see how it goes, step by step, me at 134 days and the next guy at 200 and there is a sister at one year and then there are bothers at 1000 days and so on. Man this place amazes me and I am all for the power of quit. "

YOU wrote this a few months ago here on this wall. I like this attitude better. You were positive. Something has happened lately. The only posts I see from you are ones talking down on KTC. You are free to have your own opinion, but if you are upset because of an offense here, then try to look past that offense and remember all the good you have seen here as well. I think you have some good relationships. Make some new ones. It may help you as much as a new guy.

Boy, the past can come back to haunt in many ways. Good find, Jake.

Just how I thought it would turn out. I ran the test and the results are confirmed. Thank you all so much for those wonderful words of wisdom. I am taking them to heart.

I went to pm with you and I feel I got just as much Sarcasm as your post. Not sure what these tests are you are conducting but what I will tell you is that if this is just some game for you knock it off I am investing time w you because u are military we share two brotherhoods so if you're being an attention whore knock it off grow up n pay it forward. Or what u trying to have a swan song like ur buddies.

I think you mentioned drama a while back somewhere. Don't feel like looking it up. Seems to me your the chief. Just saying!

Would be nice to see you try and help someone for a change.

[traumagnet]

I spent some time going back over and reading items in the quit groups and in other sections and I get why a lot of people just don't stay here.  Now I am a trained observer and after 20 years in the military and 15 in the Security Business the harsh and harassing way the brothers here treat people who don't fall in line exactly like they want them too really turns people off.  If this site hadn't helped keep me quit so well and because I don't give a flying rats ass how dick cheeses think I should think I would have left back too. 

But you know what I quit on my terms and for right now at this point in my quit I am staying here ... not because I feel I have to but because I want to.  I made a commitment to myself and I am going to hang in.  There is a lot going on in my life right now and I am not going to loose my cool if I slip up and miss a post; it won't toss me off the train and make me dip. 

But one day ... down the tracks a ways I will be ready to face life without posting daily, or weekly or even at all.  And you know what ... I won't feel bad about it.

BTW - Congratulations to all my brothers who have gone before me and those who are following me on keep your quit strong.

I don't get your anti-KTC vibe and what your trying to achieve with your comments. You are not helping anyone quit.

You have been quit 200+ days and only have 255 posts. If you want to be helpful, then why don't you jump in and try helping others. Show everyone how it is done. With all your years of experience it sounds like you could be helpful if you wanted to pay it forward. From what I can see you have done very little of that since you joined. It looks like you just like to sit out and throw pot shots at those who are actually trying to help the newbies quit. Just so I am clear, I am not being sarcastic here at all or trying to be an ass... I am dead serious. Start paying it forward. That is how this place works. You could help someone find their freedom!

The reason people most people leave is because they cave  can't break free from their enslavement to nicotine. Most go back to using! I am sure others leave and stay quit. That is great if that works for them. Saying that they leave because they are treated poorly is a "caver" BS reason.

People respond to different methods of encouragement, support and talk. What works for some will not work for others. It takes a wide array of personalities to support a wide array of personalities. You are not going to like what everyone has to say  this site is not designed for you to like what EVERYONE has to say. Some people respond to getting yelled at and others close down. Others need a softer approach. That is why we tell everyone... take what you need and leave the rest.

There is a method to KTC and people need to fall in line if they choose to quit this way. Like it or not.... that is what saved you. You need to work your quit every day. You are an addict and you can never have just one. We post roll every day and stay quit for that day. We support each other as best we can. Anything short of that should not be applauded. If people can't deal with that then they need to leave and quit somewhere else.

KTC is not broke. The KTC way works if you choose to use it.

No one is telling Bearhawk he needs to stay here the rest of his life. You can leave whenever you want. But I'd like to see you stay and save a few folks from their addiction to this evil poison. How does that sound?

I hear what you are saying BearHawk. Some may not need this site forever no one has said that you have to stay here forever but the way I see it and yes this is my own opinion what does it hurt to come here everyday and post my name and say I will not use. It also doesn't hurt to post with others. It also doesn't hurt to post in a few threads. I have said things in some threads that I had forgotten all about and thought it didn't really make an impact but I have gotten PM's later that said thank you. I say thank you to them for allowing me to take part in their quits. In my opinion again the time I spend here is but a fraction of time that I used to spend killing myself.

I am eternally grateful that I found KTC I have been here everyday for 332 days and I plan to stay here for awhile. I was picked up when I got here by people that were just a little bit ahead of me and people who had been here for a long time point is that is the pay it forward and back. I have stayed here because all other attempts to quit were unsuccessful they were stoppages. You quit only once. I was met with different personalities some soft some hard but I needed it. I knew these people here were not going to give me a pass and I knew I had found my home.

As for you BearHawk you have a lot of time in the military and experiences I would like to see you share your knowledge and pay it forward and back. You know structure you know subculture you were from a subculture and you know each one has its own customs and courtesies. I would like to see you put it all out there and take a new scared, fogged out their gourd quitter under your wing and stay with them from day one until they hit the hall and who knows beyond. I think that would give you a different perspective on what KTC is.

"I was reading here the other day and this ass wipe was saying that we who post daily are self-centered ass holes and I guess in a way he is right. I am centered on my quit and coming here is all about me staying quit so in a way in is all about me. But then of course the shit bag was all wrong too. I stay here and stay quit to encourage others to do the same and be just like me and the thousands of others who stay quit for life.

Reading the upcoming events and I see brothers who have been quit for 8 years and I think because of them I am going to stay here that long and I am going to stay here so other newbies can see how it goes, step by step, me at 134 days and the next guy at 200 and there is a sister at one year and then there are bothers at 1000 days and so on. Man this place amazes me and I am all for the power of quit. "

YOU wrote this a few months ago here on this wall. I like this attitude better. You were positive. Something has happened lately. The only posts I see from you are ones talking down on KTC. You are free to have your own opinion, but if you are upset because of an offense here, then try to look past that offense and remember all the good you have seen here as well. I think you have some good relationships. Make some new ones. It may help you as much as a new guy.

Boy, the past can come back to haunt in many ways. Good find, Jake.

Just how I thought it would turn out. I ran the test and the results are confirmed. Thank you all so much for those wonderful words of wisdom. I am taking them to heart.

I went to pm with you and I feel I got just as much Sarcasm as your post. Not sure what these tests are you are conducting but what I will tell you is that if this is just some game for you knock it off I am investing time w you because u are military we share two brotherhoods so if you're being an attention whore knock it off grow up n pay it forward. Or what u trying to have a swan song like ur buddies.

[BearHawk]

I spent some time going back over and reading items in the quit groups and in other sections and I get why a lot of people just don't stay here.  Now I am a trained observer and after 20 years in the military and 15 in the Security Business the harsh and harassing way the brothers here treat people who don't fall in line exactly like they want them too really turns people off.  If this site hadn't helped keep me quit so well and because I don't give a flying rats ass how dick cheeses think I should think I would have left back too. 

But you know what I quit on my terms and for right now at this point in my quit I am staying here ... not because I feel I have to but because I want to.  I made a commitment to myself and I am going to hang in.  There is a lot going on in my life right now and I am not going to loose my cool if I slip up and miss a post; it won't toss me off the train and make me dip. 

But one day ... down the tracks a ways I will be ready to face life without posting daily, or weekly or even at all.  And you know what ... I won't feel bad about it.

BTW - Congratulations to all my brothers who have gone before me and those who are following me on keep your quit strong.

I don't get your anti-KTC vibe and what your trying to achieve with your comments. You are not helping anyone quit.

You have been quit 200+ days and only have 255 posts. If you want to be helpful, then why don't you jump in and try helping others. Show everyone how it is done. With all your years of experience it sounds like you could be helpful if you wanted to pay it forward. From what I can see you have done very little of that since you joined. It looks like you just like to sit out and throw pot shots at those who are actually trying to help the newbies quit. Just so I am clear, I am not being sarcastic here at all or trying to be an ass... I am dead serious. Start paying it forward. That is how this place works. You could help someone find their freedom!

The reason people most people leave is because they cave  can't break free from their enslavement to nicotine. Most go back to using! I am sure others leave and stay quit. That is great if that works for them. Saying that they leave because they are treated poorly is a "caver" BS reason.

People respond to different methods of encouragement, support and talk. What works for some will not work for others. It takes a wide array of personalities to support a wide array of personalities. You are not going to like what everyone has to say  this site is not designed for you to like what EVERYONE has to say. Some people respond to getting yelled at and others close down. Others need a softer approach. That is why we tell everyone... take what you need and leave the rest.

There is a method to KTC and people need to fall in line if they choose to quit this way. Like it or not.... that is what saved you. You need to work your quit every day. You are an addict and you can never have just one. We post roll every day and stay quit for that day. We support each other as best we can. Anything short of that should not be applauded. If people can't deal with that then they need to leave and quit somewhere else.

KTC is not broke. The KTC way works if you choose to use it.

No one is telling Bearhawk he needs to stay here the rest of his life. You can leave whenever you want. But I'd like to see you stay and save a few folks from their addiction to this evil poison. How does that sound?

I hear what you are saying BearHawk. Some may not need this site forever no one has said that you have to stay here forever but the way I see it and yes this is my own opinion what does it hurt to come here everyday and post my name and say I will not use. It also doesn't hurt to post with others. It also doesn't hurt to post in a few threads. I have said things in some threads that I had forgotten all about and thought it didn't really make an impact but I have gotten PM's later that said thank you. I say thank you to them for allowing me to take part in their quits. In my opinion again the time I spend here is but a fraction of time that I used to spend killing myself.

I am eternally grateful that I found KTC I have been here everyday for 332 days and I plan to stay here for awhile. I was picked up when I got here by people that were just a little bit ahead of me and people who had been here for a long time point is that is the pay it forward and back. I have stayed here because all other attempts to quit were unsuccessful they were stoppages. You quit only once. I was met with different personalities some soft some hard but I needed it. I knew these people here were not going to give me a pass and I knew I had found my home.

As for you BearHawk you have a lot of time in the military and experiences I would like to see you share your knowledge and pay it forward and back. You know structure you know subculture you were from a subculture and you know each one has its own customs and courtesies. I would like to see you put it all out there and take a new scared, fogged out their gourd quitter under your wing and stay with them from day one until they hit the hall and who knows beyond. I think that would give you a different perspective on what KTC is.

"I was reading here the other day and this ass wipe was saying that we who post daily are self-centered ass holes and I guess in a way he is right. I am centered on my quit and coming here is all about me staying quit so in a way in is all about me. But then of course the shit bag was all wrong too. I stay here and stay quit to encourage others to do the same and be just like me and the thousands of others who stay quit for life.

Reading the upcoming events and I see brothers who have been quit for 8 years and I think because of them I am going to stay here that long and I am going to stay here so other newbies can see how it goes, step by step, me at 134 days and the next guy at 200 and there is a sister at one year and then there are bothers at 1000 days and so on. Man this place amazes me and I am all for the power of quit. "

YOU wrote this a few months ago here on this wall. I like this attitude better. You were positive. Something has happened lately. The only posts I see from you are ones talking down on KTC. You are free to have your own opinion, but if you are upset because of an offense here, then try to look past that offense and remember all the good you have seen here as well. I think you have some good relationships. Make some new ones. It may help you as much as a new guy.

Boy, the past can come back to haunt in many ways. Good find, Jake.

Just how I thought it would turn out. I ran the test and the results are confirmed. Thank you all so much for those wonderful words of wisdom. I am taking them to heart.

[Evil_Won]

I spent some time going back over and reading items in the quit groups and in other sections and I get why a lot of people just don't stay here.  Now I am a trained observer and after 20 years in the military and 15 in the Security Business the harsh and harassing way the brothers here treat people who don't fall in line exactly like they want them too really turns people off.  If this site hadn't helped keep me quit so well and because I don't give a flying rats ass how dick cheeses think I should think I would have left back too. 

But you know what I quit on my terms and for right now at this point in my quit I am staying here ... not because I feel I have to but because I want to.  I made a commitment to myself and I am going to hang in.  There is a lot going on in my life right now and I am not going to loose my cool if I slip up and miss a post; it won't toss me off the train and make me dip. 

But one day ... down the tracks a ways I will be ready to face life without posting daily, or weekly or even at all.  And you know what ... I won't feel bad about it.

BTW - Congratulations to all my brothers who have gone before me and those who are following me on keep your quit strong.

I don't get your anti-KTC vibe and what your trying to achieve with your comments. You are not helping anyone quit.

You have been quit 200+ days and only have 255 posts. If you want to be helpful, then why don't you jump in and try helping others. Show everyone how it is done. With all your years of experience it sounds like you could be helpful if you wanted to pay it forward. From what I can see you have done very little of that since you joined. It looks like you just like to sit out and throw pot shots at those who are actually trying to help the newbies quit. Just so I am clear, I am not being sarcastic here at all or trying to be an ass... I am dead serious. Start paying it forward. That is how this place works. You could help someone find their freedom!

The reason people most people leave is because they cave  can't break free from their enslavement to nicotine. Most go back to using! I am sure others leave and stay quit. That is great if that works for them. Saying that they leave because they are treated poorly is a "caver" BS reason.

People respond to different methods of encouragement, support and talk. What works for some will not work for others. It takes a wide array of personalities to support a wide array of personalities. You are not going to like what everyone has to say  this site is not designed for you to like what EVERYONE has to say. Some people respond to getting yelled at and others close down. Others need a softer approach. That is why we tell everyone... take what you need and leave the rest.

There is a method to KTC and people need to fall in line if they choose to quit this way. Like it or not.... that is what saved you. You need to work your quit every day. You are an addict and you can never have just one. We post roll every day and stay quit for that day. We support each other as best we can. Anything short of that should not be applauded. If people can't deal with that then they need to leave and quit somewhere else.

KTC is not broke. The KTC way works if you choose to use it.

No one is telling Bearhawk he needs to stay here the rest of his life. You can leave whenever you want. But I'd like to see you stay and save a few folks from their addiction to this evil poison. How does that sound?

I hear what you are saying BearHawk. Some may not need this site forever no one has said that you have to stay here forever but the way I see it and yes this is my own opinion what does it hurt to come here everyday and post my name and say I will not use. It also doesn't hurt to post with others. It also doesn't hurt to post in a few threads. I have said things in some threads that I had forgotten all about and thought it didn't really make an impact but I have gotten PM's later that said thank you. I say thank you to them for allowing me to take part in their quits. In my opinion again the time I spend here is but a fraction of time that I used to spend killing myself.

I am eternally grateful that I found KTC I have been here everyday for 332 days and I plan to stay here for awhile. I was picked up when I got here by people that were just a little bit ahead of me and people who had been here for a long time point is that is the pay it forward and back. I have stayed here because all other attempts to quit were unsuccessful they were stoppages. You quit only once. I was met with different personalities some soft some hard but I needed it. I knew these people here were not going to give me a pass and I knew I had found my home.

As for you BearHawk you have a lot of time in the military and experiences I would like to see you share your knowledge and pay it forward and back. You know structure you know subculture you were from a subculture and you know each one has its own customs and courtesies. I would like to see you put it all out there and take a new scared, fogged out their gourd quitter under your wing and stay with them from day one until they hit the hall and who knows beyond. I think that would give you a different perspective on what KTC is.

"I was reading here the other day and this ass wipe was saying that we who post daily are self-centered ass holes and I guess in a way he is right. I am centered on my quit and coming here is all about me staying quit so in a way in is all about me. But then of course the shit bag was all wrong too. I stay here and stay quit to encourage others to do the same and be just like me and the thousands of others who stay quit for life.

Reading the upcoming events and I see brothers who have been quit for 8 years and I think because of them I am going to stay here that long and I am going to stay here so other newbies can see how it goes, step by step, me at 134 days and the next guy at 200 and there is a sister at one year and then there are bothers at 1000 days and so on. Man this place amazes me and I am all for the power of quit. "

YOU wrote this a few months ago here on this wall. I like this attitude better. You were positive. Something has happened lately. The only posts I see from you are ones talking down on KTC. You are free to have your own opinion, but if you are upset because of an offense here, then try to look past that offense and remember all the good you have seen here as well. I think you have some good relationships. Make some new ones. It may help you as much as a new guy.

Boy, the past can come back to haunt in many ways. Good find, Jake.

[jake frawley]

I spent some time going back over and reading items in the quit groups and in other sections and I get why a lot of people just don't stay here.  Now I am a trained observer and after 20 years in the military and 15 in the Security Business the harsh and harassing way the brothers here treat people who don't fall in line exactly like they want them too really turns people off.  If this site hadn't helped keep me quit so well and because I don't give a flying rats ass how dick cheeses think I should think I would have left back too. 

But you know what I quit on my terms and for right now at this point in my quit I am staying here ... not because I feel I have to but because I want to.  I made a commitment to myself and I am going to hang in.  There is a lot going on in my life right now and I am not going to loose my cool if I slip up and miss a post; it won't toss me off the train and make me dip. 

But one day ... down the tracks a ways I will be ready to face life without posting daily, or weekly or even at all.  And you know what ... I won't feel bad about it.

BTW - Congratulations to all my brothers who have gone before me and those who are following me on keep your quit strong.

I don't get your anti-KTC vibe and what your trying to achieve with your comments. You are not helping anyone quit.

You have been quit 200+ days and only have 255 posts. If you want to be helpful, then why don't you jump in and try helping others. Show everyone how it is done. With all your years of experience it sounds like you could be helpful if you wanted to pay it forward. From what I can see you have done very little of that since you joined. It looks like you just like to sit out and throw pot shots at those who are actually trying to help the newbies quit. Just so I am clear, I am not being sarcastic here at all or trying to be an ass... I am dead serious. Start paying it forward. That is how this place works. You could help someone find their freedom!

The reason people most people leave is because they cave  can't break free from their enslavement to nicotine. Most go back to using! I am sure others leave and stay quit. That is great if that works for them. Saying that they leave because they are treated poorly is a "caver" BS reason.

People respond to different methods of encouragement, support and talk. What works for some will not work for others. It takes a wide array of personalities to support a wide array of personalities. You are not going to like what everyone has to say  this site is not designed for you to like what EVERYONE has to say. Some people respond to getting yelled at and others close down. Others need a softer approach. That is why we tell everyone... take what you need and leave the rest.

There is a method to KTC and people need to fall in line if they choose to quit this way. Like it or not.... that is what saved you. You need to work your quit every day. You are an addict and you can never have just one. We post roll every day and stay quit for that day. We support each other as best we can. Anything short of that should not be applauded. If people can't deal with that then they need to leave and quit somewhere else.

KTC is not broke. The KTC way works if you choose to use it.

No one is telling Bearhawk he needs to stay here the rest of his life. You can leave whenever you want. But I'd like to see you stay and save a few folks from their addiction to this evil poison. How does that sound?

I hear what you are saying BearHawk. Some may not need this site forever no one has said that you have to stay here forever but the way I see it and yes this is my own opinion what does it hurt to come here everyday and post my name and say I will not use. It also doesn't hurt to post with others. It also doesn't hurt to post in a few threads. I have said things in some threads that I had forgotten all about and thought it didn't really make an impact but I have gotten PM's later that said thank you. I say thank you to them for allowing me to take part in their quits. In my opinion again the time I spend here is but a fraction of time that I used to spend killing myself.

I am eternally grateful that I found KTC I have been here everyday for 332 days and I plan to stay here for awhile. I was picked up when I got here by people that were just a little bit ahead of me and people who had been here for a long time point is that is the pay it forward and back. I have stayed here because all other attempts to quit were unsuccessful they were stoppages. You quit only once. I was met with different personalities some soft some hard but I needed it. I knew these people here were not going to give me a pass and I knew I had found my home.

As for you BearHawk you have a lot of time in the military and experiences I would like to see you share your knowledge and pay it forward and back. You know structure you know subculture you were from a subculture and you know each one has its own customs and courtesies. I would like to see you put it all out there and take a new scared, fogged out their gourd quitter under your wing and stay with them from day one until they hit the hall and who knows beyond. I think that would give you a different perspective on what KTC is.

"I was reading here the other day and this ass wipe was saying that we who post daily are self-centered ass holes and I guess in a way he is right. I am centered on my quit and coming here is all about me staying quit so in a way in is all about me. But then of course the shit bag was all wrong too. I stay here and stay quit to encourage others to do the same and be just like me and the thousands of others who stay quit for life.

Reading the upcoming events and I see brothers who have been quit for 8 years and I think because of them I am going to stay here that long and I am going to stay here so other newbies can see how it goes, step by step, me at 134 days and the next guy at 200 and there is a sister at one year and then there are bothers at 1000 days and so on. Man this place amazes me and I am all for the power of quit. "

YOU wrote this a few months ago here on this wall. I like this attitude better. You were positive. Something has happened lately. The only posts I see from you are ones talking down on KTC. You are free to have your own opinion, but if you are upset because of an offense here, then try to look past that offense and remember all the good you have seen here as well. I think you have some good relationships. Make some new ones. It may help you as much as a new guy.

[traumagnet]

I spent some time going back over and reading items in the quit groups and in other sections and I get why a lot of people just don't stay here.  Now I am a trained observer and after 20 years in the military and 15 in the Security Business the harsh and harassing way the brothers here treat people who don't fall in line exactly like they want them too really turns people off.  If this site hadn't helped keep me quit so well and because I don't give a flying rats ass how dick cheeses think I should think I would have left back too. 

But you know what I quit on my terms and for right now at this point in my quit I am staying here ... not because I feel I have to but because I want to.  I made a commitment to myself and I am going to hang in.  There is a lot going on in my life right now and I am not going to loose my cool if I slip up and miss a post; it won't toss me off the train and make me dip. 

But one day ... down the tracks a ways I will be ready to face life without posting daily, or weekly or even at all.  And you know what ... I won't feel bad about it.

BTW - Congratulations to all my brothers who have gone before me and those who are following me on keep your quit strong.

I don't get your anti-KTC vibe and what your trying to achieve with your comments. You are not helping anyone quit.

You have been quit 200+ days and only have 255 posts. If you want to be helpful, then why don't you jump in and try helping others. Show everyone how it is done. With all your years of experience it sounds like you could be helpful if you wanted to pay it forward. From what I can see you have done very little of that since you joined. It looks like you just like to sit out and throw pot shots at those who are actually trying to help the newbies quit. Just so I am clear, I am not being sarcastic here at all or trying to be an ass... I am dead serious. Start paying it forward. That is how this place works. You could help someone find their freedom!

The reason people most people leave is because they cave  can't break free from their enslavement to nicotine. Most go back to using! I am sure others leave and stay quit. That is great if that works for them. Saying that they leave because they are treated poorly is a "caver" BS reason.

People respond to different methods of encouragement, support and talk. What works for some will not work for others. It takes a wide array of personalities to support a wide array of personalities. You are not going to like what everyone has to say  this site is not designed for you to like what EVERYONE has to say. Some people respond to getting yelled at and others close down. Others need a softer approach. That is why we tell everyone... take what you need and leave the rest.

There is a method to KTC and people need to fall in line if they choose to quit this way. Like it or not.... that is what saved you. You need to work your quit every day. You are an addict and you can never have just one. We post roll every day and stay quit for that day. We support each other as best we can. Anything short of that should not be applauded. If people can't deal with that then they need to leave and quit somewhere else.

KTC is not broke. The KTC way works if you choose to use it.

No one is telling Bearhawk he needs to stay here the rest of his life. You can leave whenever you want. But I'd like to see you stay and save a few folks from their addiction to this evil poison. How does that sound?

I hear what you are saying BearHawk. Some may not need this site forever no one has said that you have to stay here forever but the way I see it and yes this is my own opinion what does it hurt to come here everyday and post my name and say I will not use. It also doesn't hurt to post with others. It also doesn't hurt to post in a few threads. I have said things in some threads that I had forgotten all about and thought it didn't really make an impact but I have gotten PM's later that said thank you. I say thank you to them for allowing me to take part in their quits. In my opinion again the time I spend here is but a fraction of time that I used to spend killing myself.

I am eternally grateful that I found KTC I have been here everyday for 332 days and I plan to stay here for awhile. I was picked up when I got here by people that were just a little bit ahead of me and people who had been here for a long time point is that is the pay it forward and back. I have stayed here because all other attempts to quit were unsuccessful they were stoppages. You quit only once. I was met with different personalities some soft some hard but I needed it. I knew these people here were not going to give me a pass and I knew I had found my home.

As for you BearHawk you have a lot of time in the military and experiences I would like to see you share your knowledge and pay it forward and back. You know structure you know subculture you were from a subculture and you know each one has its own customs and courtesies. I would like to see you put it all out there and take a new scared, fogged out their gourd quitter under your wing and stay with them from day one until they hit the hall and who knows beyond. I think that would give you a different perspective on what KTC is.

[Derk40]

I spent some time going back over and reading items in the quit groups and in other sections and I get why a lot of people just don't stay here.  Now I am a trained observer and after 20 years in the military and 15 in the Security Business the harsh and harassing way the brothers here treat people who don't fall in line exactly like they want them too really turns people off.  If this site hadn't helped keep me quit so well and because I don't give a flying rats ass how dick cheeses think I should think I would have left back too. 

But you know what I quit on my terms and for right now at this point in my quit I am staying here ... not because I feel I have to but because I want to.  I made a commitment to myself and I am going to hang in.  There is a lot going on in my life right now and I am not going to loose my cool if I slip up and miss a post; it won't toss me off the train and make me dip. 

But one day ... down the tracks a ways I will be ready to face life without posting daily, or weekly or even at all.  And you know what ... I won't feel bad about it.

BTW - Congratulations to all my brothers who have gone before me and those who are following me on keep your quit strong.

I don't get your anti-KTC vibe and what your trying to achieve with your comments. You are not helping anyone quit.

You have been quit 200+ days and only have 255 posts. If you want to be helpful, then why don't you jump in and try helping others. Show everyone how it is done. With all your years of experience it sounds like you could be helpful if you wanted to pay it forward. From what I can see you have done very little of that since you joined. It looks like you just like to sit out and throw pot shots at those who are actually trying to help the newbies quit. Just so I am clear, I am not being sarcastic here at all or trying to be an ass... I am dead serious. Start paying it forward. That is how this place works. You could help someone find their freedom!

The reason people most people leave is because they cave  can't break free from their enslavement to nicotine. Most go back to using! I am sure others leave and stay quit. That is great if that works for them. Saying that they leave because they are treated poorly is a "caver" BS reason.

People respond to different methods of encouragement, support and talk. What works for some will not work for others. It takes a wide array of personalities to support a wide array of personalities. You are not going to like what everyone has to say  this site is not designed for you to like what EVERYONE has to say. Some people respond to getting yelled at and others close down. Others need a softer approach. That is why we tell everyone... take what you need and leave the rest.

There is a method to KTC and people need to fall in line if they choose to quit this way. Like it or not.... that is what saved you. You need to work your quit every day. You are an addict and you can never have just one. We post roll every day and stay quit for that day. We support each other as best we can. Anything short of that should not be applauded. If people can't deal with that then they need to leave and quit somewhere else.

KTC is not broke. The KTC way works if you choose to use it.

No one is telling Bearhawk he needs to stay here the rest of his life. You can leave whenever you want. But I'd like to see you stay and save a few folks from their addiction to this evil poison. How does that sound?

[BearHawk]

I spent some time going back over and reading items in the quit groups and in other sections and I get why a lot of people just don't stay here. Now I am a trained observer and after 20 years in the military and 15 in the Security Business the harsh and harassing way the brothers here treat people who don't fall in line exactly like they want them too really turns people off. If this site hadn't helped keep me quit so well and because I don't give a flying rats ass how dick cheeses think I should think I would have left back too.

But you know what I quit on my terms and for right now at this point in my quit I am staying here ... not because I feel I have to but because I want to. I made a commitment to myself and I am going to hang in. There is a lot going on in my life right now and I am not going to loose my cool if I slip up and miss a post; it won't toss me off the train and make me dip.

But one day ... down the tracks a ways I will be ready to face life without posting daily, or weekly or even at all. And you know what ... I won't feel bad about it.

BTW - Congratulations to all my brothers who have gone before me and those who are following me on keep your quit strong.