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Re: Day 1 someone shoot me please
« Reply #82 on: May 16, 2011, 05:27:00 PM »
I'm lost. Who is Klark?

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Re: Day 1 someone shoot me please
« Reply #81 on: May 16, 2011, 04:43:00 PM »
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Why does KTC work?

It has been said over, and over again. Often times by guys far smarter and far more articulate than I; however, when I was thinking about the National Spit Tobacco Summit, and the involvement of KTC, I started wondering, “Why does KTC work?”

If you donÂ’t know, KTC is a strict no nicotine site. We believe and subscribe to the cold turkey method. We donÂ’t believe in NRTÂ’s. Some of us (myself included) have tried and used Chantix, or Welbutrin, or other prescription drugs, but most of us (I am one) throw that junk out when we find KTC. So why would I disregard the advice of my own physician and listen to a bunch of strangers who I probably will never meet? Simple reason: they are addicts too.

My physician is a former dipper. He knows first-hand how hard it is to quit. I told him about KTC, and he says he’s advised some of his “thicker skinned” patients about it. But he is still amazed I’ve made it 421 consecutive days without ingesting nicotine, on sheer will power. So how does this rag tag band of addicts help each other quit? Well, I think I’ve figured out part of it.

It’s our diversity, I think. We have all walks of life, from all kinds of experiences, from all over the country, and the world – literally. I don’t think we have a single physician in the whole lot, but I could be wrong. The truth is, we have everything you need all in one spot. I’ll be a little more specific.

If you want to hear about the life of an addict, how and why they act the way they do, addict mentality, and how your addiction doesnÂ’t fill any void, it only creates oneÂ…Smokey is your man. Smokey can always take a new guyÂ’s post and nail it for what it is: addict talk.

If you need to get mad at Big Tobacco, or rail against the companies that target young people to get them hooked on nicotine, you need to hang out with Greg5280. That guy has done his research. He KNOWS that stuff inside and out. Greg is a guy that can carry that banner and help you channel that anger to a healthy place and help you pick an enemy to do battle against.

If you need some fatherly ass-kicking, some “Why are you being such a dumbass?” type tough love, well, you can use the tri-fecta of Mule, Ready and Loot.

Now, of course I didnÂ’t mention EVERYONE, and there are others here that help like you canÂ’t understand unless youÂ’ve been there.

Where do I fit in? Well, I have guys that use the moniker of Bad Ass Quitter when they describe me. It’s humbling, because I don’t consider anything about me to be Bad Ass. What’s my approach? Well, I’m a coach. It really didn’t dawn on me until I had a considerable number of days under me that I coach. Why would I try to be more than that? I definitely look at guys that are struggling, frustrated, maybe really confused or plain old scared. My help (I hope) comes when I help pick a guy up, and set him straight. Don’t get me wrong, I provide tough love. There is very little room for excuses with me, but show me any good coach that allows his players or team to offer excuses when they perform poorly. Bottom line, there are a number of guys that gravitate to this approach, just like guys will really take a post by Ready to heart, or re-read when Greg posts about the tobacco company’s newest approach to market new consumers, or when Smokey really lights someone up and says, “It wasn’t nicotine that was filling the void, it was nicotine that was creating it.”

Bottom line – KTC works. Is it for everyone? No. We are crass, vulgar, rude, and generally full of jackwagonery. Do we look out for each other? Hell yea. Do we take our quits seriously? No, we guard them with our lives! We have walked the road to our freedom, and we are willing, ready and able to help you walk the road yourself. You can’t buy the kind of support and knowledge you are going to get at KTC. That’s what non-addicts don’t understand, but that IS why KTC works.
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Re: Day 1 someone shoot me please
« Reply #80 on: May 16, 2011, 04:33:00 PM »
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You dumb rude mother fuckers just don't get it, DO YOU?  People should feel free and welcome to visit this site any god damn time they want with out ass fucks like KLARK demanding ANYTHING.  He is NOT the gate keeper here.  He doesn't decide who get's in to talk and who doesn't.  This site doesn't need to DEMAND you post roll for some kind of "perceived" accountability to make you all feel special.  You are going to crave or NOT crave, and posting isn't going to stop you, nor make you feel any better about your QUIT.  The times I have POSTED, never had an impact on me one way or another; this freaking website isn't going to stop me from chewing if I ever decide to start again.  True accountability is to FRIENDS and FAMILY--there are NO SUCH things as true friends or family on the INTERNET!  Get it!  It's just a fucking SCREEN in your face.  So stop with your ACCOUNTABILITY horse shit on here.  You people are all sucked into the FACEBOOK mentality with all your 100 friends crap.  FACEBOOK sucks as well as all SOCIAL MEDIA internet sites!  They do nothing for you except waste your god damn TIME.  Your REAL life is where you are--go look in the MIRROR.

This website should be like a church where everyone is welcomed and not freaking JUDGED the minute they come in.  Some people don't like to go to church every week.  The church doesn't tell them that they are going to go to hell if they don't.  But you turds here seem to think me or people like me that don't POST will FAIL.  If I say I am doing GOOD without POSTING, then leave it at that.  There is nothing wrong with me living my life without KTC.ORG every fucking day of my LIFE.  If most of the dippers on here NEED it everyday, then good....I don't have a problem with that or any of you.  But don't group me in with the group!  Everyone is different.  I'll do my quit the way I want to with the help of research and learning.
If it weren't so pitiful, I'd say this is one of the funniest threads I've ever read on this site, (and that's saying a lot). Sort of like watching a fag (I got nothing against fags...some of my best friends, like tarp...ah, never mind).,..anyway, like watching a fag shuffle into a biker bar.

When a noob says, "your method is bullshit" in HERE? I don't even know how to finish the sentence.

The method is responsible for thousands of addicts to be free of bondage. We're friggin zealots in here. I can't think of a better word for it.
This thread is awesome. It's like a nurse-aid dropped the bingo cards in the rec center of the convalescent home upsetting all the residents midafternoon. There's some heavy quit coming to bat. Golf clap to all the defenders.

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Re: Day 1 someone shoot me please
« Reply #79 on: May 16, 2011, 04:31:00 PM »
Hey douchenoodle fucktard....My last post on you....See where you have this all wrong is when you are talking about facebook mentality and accountability is with real friends and family....My friends and family have no clue what I am am going through...They never went through what I am going through...The men and woman of KTC get it and have helped the Bad ass quitters on this site quit. I can call up Miles, Reb, Onelegrus, TheRog at anytime day or nite if I need them...These people dont know me at all and are willing to help...I can talk to Mule, Nolaq, Ready and Asshole Klark for fucking much needed guidance...Talk about accountability you need to figure out what it means first. I promise these guys every day that I wont dip because I know if they need me or I need them they are there and they will keep their word to me.....So when you open up with Fuck you KTC it pisses me and many others off...KTC is a big reason why I quit, I stay quit every day because of the accountability of this site....You are like fingernails on a chalk board, or chewing on tinfoil....You are an annoyance beyond belief and you say Fuck you to all of us by just being here...So do us all a big favor go away...Go far, far away with your friends and family and get the support you need or the fingering that you need or what ever....Just fuck off and leave us fucking accountable bad ass quitters alone...We will do things our way you do them yours and have a nice life....Fuck KTC...NO I SAY FUCK YOU!

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Re: Day 1 someone shoot me please
« Reply #78 on: May 16, 2011, 04:26:00 PM »
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You dumb rude mother fuckers just don't get it, DO YOU?  People should feel free and welcome to visit this site any god damn time they want with out ass fucks like KLARK demanding ANYTHING.  He is NOT the gate keeper here.  He doesn't decide who get's in to talk and who doesn't.  This site doesn't need to DEMAND you post roll for some kind of "perceived" accountability to make you all feel special.  You are going to crave or NOT crave, and posting isn't going to stop you, nor make you feel any better about your QUIT.  The times I have POSTED, never had an impact on me one way or another; this freaking website isn't going to stop me from chewing if I ever decide to start again.  True accountability is to FRIENDS and FAMILY--there are NO SUCH things as true friends or family on the INTERNET!  Get it!  It's just a fucking SCREEN in your face.  So stop with your ACCOUNTABILITY horse shit on here.  You people are all sucked into the FACEBOOK mentality with all your 100 friends crap.  FACEBOOK sucks as well as all SOCIAL MEDIA internet sites!  They do nothing for you except waste your god damn TIME.  Your REAL life is where you are--go look in the MIRROR.

This website should be like a church where everyone is welcomed and not freaking JUDGED the minute they come in.  Some people don't like to go to church every week.  The church doesn't tell them that they are going to go to hell if they don't.  But you turds here seem to think me or people like me that don't POST will FAIL.  If I say I am doing GOOD without POSTING, then leave it at that.  There is nothing wrong with me living my life without KTC.ORG every fucking day of my LIFE.  If most of the dippers on here NEED it everyday, then good....I don't have a problem with that or any of you.  But don't group me in with the group!  Everyone is different.  I'll do my quit the way I want to with the help of research and learning.
If it weren't so pitiful, I'd say this is one of the funniest threads I've ever read on this site, (and that's saying a lot). Sort of like watching a fag (I got nothing against fags...some of my best friends, like tarp...ah, never mind).,..anyway, like watching a fag shuffle into a biker bar.

When a noob says, "your method is bullshit" in HERE? I don't even know how to finish the sentence.

The method is responsible for thousands of addicts to be free of bondage. We're friggin zealots in here. I can't think of a better word for it.
This thread is awesome. It's like a nurse-aid dropped the bingo cards in the rec center of the convalescent home upsetting all the residents midafternoon. There's some heavy quit coming to bat. Golf clap to all the defenders.

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Re: Day 1 someone shoot me please
« Reply #77 on: May 16, 2011, 04:14:00 PM »
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You dumb rude mother fuckers just don't get it, DO YOU?  People should feel free and welcome to visit this site any god damn time they want with out ass fucks like KLARK demanding ANYTHING.  He is NOT the gate keeper here.  He doesn't decide who get's in to talk and who doesn't.  This site doesn't need to DEMAND you post roll for some kind of "perceived" accountability to make you all feel special.  You are going to crave or NOT crave, and posting isn't going to stop you, nor make you feel any better about your QUIT.  The times I have POSTED, never had an impact on me one way or another; this freaking website isn't going to stop me from chewing if I ever decide to start again.  True accountability is to FRIENDS and FAMILY--there are NO SUCH things as true friends or family on the INTERNET!  Get it!  It's just a fucking SCREEN in your face.  So stop with your ACCOUNTABILITY horse shit on here.  You people are all sucked into the FACEBOOK mentality with all your 100 friends crap.  FACEBOOK sucks as well as all SOCIAL MEDIA internet sites!  They do nothing for you except waste your god damn TIME.  Your REAL life is where you are--go look in the MIRROR.

This website should be like a church where everyone is welcomed and not freaking JUDGED the minute they come in.  Some people don't like to go to church every week.  The church doesn't tell them that they are going to go to hell if they don't.  But you turds here seem to think me or people like me that don't POST will FAIL.  If I say I am doing GOOD without POSTING, then leave it at that.  There is nothing wrong with me living my life without KTC.ORG every fucking day of my LIFE.  If most of the dippers on here NEED it everyday, then good....I don't have a problem with that or any of you.  But don't group me in with the group!  Everyone is different.  I'll do my quit the way I want to with the help of research and learning.
If it weren't so pitiful, I'd say this is one of the funniest threads I've ever read on this site, (and that's saying a lot). Sort of like watching a fag (I got nothing against fags...some of my best friends, like tarp...ah, never mind).,..anyway, like watching a fag shuffle into a biker bar.

When a noob says, "your method is bullshit" in HERE? I don't even know how to finish the sentence.

The method is responsible for thousands of addicts to be free of bondage. We're friggin zealots in here. I can't think of a better word for it.
This thread is awesome. It's like a nurse-aid dropped the bingo cards in the rec center of the convalescent home upsetting all the residents midafternoon. There's some heavy quit coming to bat. Golf clap to all the defenders.

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Re: Day 1 someone shoot me please
« Reply #76 on: May 16, 2011, 04:07:00 PM »
I am so glad I am not him and tomorrow is my 100 days. Thank you KTC ( this includes all the quitters here ) for everything I have learned and will continue to learn , because I have chosen to make KTC a part of my LIFE.

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Re: Day 1 someone shoot me please
« Reply #75 on: May 16, 2011, 04:06:00 PM »
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You dumb rude mother fuckers just don't get it, DO YOU? People should feel free and welcome to visit this site any god damn time they want with out ass fucks like KLARK demanding ANYTHING. He is NOT the gate keeper here. He doesn't decide who get's in to talk and who doesn't. This site doesn't need to DEMAND you post roll for some kind of "perceived" accountability to make you all feel special. You are going to crave or NOT crave, and posting isn't going to stop you, nor make you feel any better about your QUIT. The times I have POSTED, never had an impact on me one way or another; this freaking website isn't going to stop me from chewing if I ever decide to start again. True accountability is to FRIENDS and FAMILY--there are NO SUCH things as true friends or family on the INTERNET! Get it! It's just a fucking SCREEN in your face. So stop with your ACCOUNTABILITY horse shit on here. You people are all sucked into the FACEBOOK mentality with all your 100 friends crap. FACEBOOK sucks as well as all SOCIAL MEDIA internet sites! They do nothing for you except waste your god damn TIME. Your REAL life is where you are--go look in the MIRROR.

This website should be like a church where everyone is welcomed and not freaking JUDGED the minute they come in. Some people don't like to go to church every week. The church doesn't tell them that they are going to go to hell if they don't. But you turds here seem to think me or people like me that don't POST will FAIL. If I say I am doing GOOD without POSTING, then leave it at that. There is nothing wrong with me living my life without KTC.ORG every fucking day of my LIFE. If most of the dippers on here NEED it everyday, then good....I don't have a problem with that or any of you. But don't group me in with the group! Everyone is different. I'll do my quit the way I want to with the help of research and learning.
If it weren't so pitiful, I'd say this is one of the funniest threads I've ever read on this site, (and that's saying a lot). Sort of like watching a fag (I got nothing against fags...some of my best friends, like tarp...ah, never mind).,..anyway, like watching a fag shuffle into a biker bar.

When a noob says, "your method is bullshit" in HERE? I don't even know how to finish the sentence.

The method is responsible for thousands of addicts to be free of bondage. We're friggin zealots in here. I can't think of a better word for it.
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Re: Day 1 someone shoot me please
« Reply #74 on: May 16, 2011, 04:06:00 PM »
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You dumb rude mother fuckers just don't get it, DO YOU?  People should feel free and welcome to visit this site any god damn time they want with out ass fucks like KLARK demanding ANYTHING.  He is NOT the gate keeper here.  He doesn't decide who get's in to talk and who doesn't.  This site doesn't need to DEMAND you post roll for some kind of "perceived" accountability to make you all feel special.  You are going to crave or NOT crave, and posting isn't going to stop you, nor make you feel any better about your QUIT.  The times I have POSTED, never had an impact on me one way or another; this freaking website isn't going to stop me from chewing if I ever decide to start again.  True accountability is to FRIENDS and FAMILY--there are NO SUCH things as true friends or family on the INTERNET!  Get it!  It's just a fucking SCREEN in your face.  So stop with your ACCOUNTABILITY horse shit on here.  You people are all sucked into the FACEBOOK mentality with all your 100 friends crap.  FACEBOOK sucks as well as all SOCIAL MEDIA internet sites!  They do nothing for you except waste your god damn TIME.  Your REAL life is where you are--go look in the MIRROR.

This website should be like a church where everyone is welcomed and not freaking JUDGED the minute they come in.  Some people don't like to go to church every week.  The church doesn't tell them that they are going to go to hell if they don't.  But you turds here seem to think me or people like me that don't POST will FAIL.  If I say I am doing GOOD without POSTING, then leave it at that.  There is nothing wrong with me living my life without KTC.ORG every fucking day of my LIFE.  If most of the dippers on here NEED it everyday, then good....I don't have a problem with that or any of you.  But don't group me in with the group!  Everyone is different.  I'll do my quit the way I want to with the help of research and learning.
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Re: Day 1 someone shoot me please
« Reply #73 on: May 16, 2011, 04:04:00 PM »
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You dumb rude mother fuckers just don't get it, DO YOU? People should feel free and welcome to visit this site any god damn time they want with out ass fucks like KLARK demanding ANYTHING. He is NOT the gate keeper here. He doesn't decide who get's in to talk and who doesn't. This site doesn't need to DEMAND you post roll for some kind of "perceived" accountability to make you all feel special. You are going to crave or NOT crave, and posting isn't going to stop you, nor make you feel any better about your QUIT. The times I have POSTED, never had an impact on me one way or another; this freaking website isn't going to stop me from chewing if I ever decide to start again. True accountability is to FRIENDS and FAMILY--there are NO SUCH things as true friends or family on the INTERNET! Get it! It's just a fucking SCREEN in your face. So stop with your ACCOUNTABILITY horse shit on here. You people are all sucked into the FACEBOOK mentality with all your 100 friends crap. FACEBOOK sucks as well as all SOCIAL MEDIA internet sites! They do nothing for you except waste your god damn TIME. Your REAL life is where you are--go look in the MIRROR.

This website should be like a church where everyone is welcomed and not freaking JUDGED the minute they come in. Some people don't like to go to church every week. The church doesn't tell them that they are going to go to hell if they don't. But you turds here seem to think me or people like me that don't POST will FAIL. If I say I am doing GOOD without POSTING, then leave it at that. There is nothing wrong with me living my life without KTC.ORG every fucking day of my LIFE. If most of the dippers on here NEED it everyday, then good....I don't have a problem with that or any of you. But don't group me in with the group! Everyone is different. I'll do my quit the way I want to with the help of research and learning.
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Re: Day 1 someone shoot me please
« Reply #72 on: May 16, 2011, 04:02:00 PM »
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You dumb rude mother fuckers just don't get it, DO YOU? People should feel free and welcome to visit this site any god damn time they want with out ass fucks like KLARK demanding ANYTHING. He is NOT the gate keeper here. He doesn't decide who get's in to talk and who doesn't. This site doesn't need to DEMAND you post roll for some kind of "perceived" accountability to make you all feel special. You are going to crave or NOT crave, and posting isn't going to stop you, nor make you feel any better about your QUIT. The times I have POSTED, never had an impact on me one way or another; this freaking website isn't going to stop me from chewing if I ever decide to start again. True accountability is to FRIENDS and FAMILY--there are NO SUCH things as true friends or family on the INTERNET! Get it! It's just a fucking SCREEN in your face. So stop with your ACCOUNTABILITY horse shit on here. You people are all sucked into the FACEBOOK mentality with all your 100 friends crap. FACEBOOK sucks as well as all SOCIAL MEDIA internet sites! They do nothing for you except waste your god damn TIME. Your REAL life is where you are--go look in the MIRROR.

This website should be like a church where everyone is welcomed and not freaking JUDGED the minute they come in. Some people don't like to go to church every week. The church doesn't tell them that they are going to go to hell if they don't. But you turds here seem to think me or people like me that don't POST will FAIL. If I say I am doing GOOD without POSTING, then leave it at that. There is nothing wrong with me living my life without KTC.ORG every fucking day of my LIFE. If most of the dippers on here NEED it everyday, then good....I don't have a problem with that or any of you. But don't group me in with the group! Everyone is different. I'll do my quit the way I want to with the help of research and learning.
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You're a pussy.

Post roll or fuck off. Either way, you've wasted way too much time here already.
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Re: Day 1 someone shoot me please
« Reply #71 on: May 16, 2011, 03:53:00 PM »
You dumb rude mother fuckers just don't get it, DO YOU? People should feel free and welcome to visit this site any god damn time they want with out ass fucks like KLARK demanding ANYTHING. He is NOT the gate keeper here. He doesn't decide who get's in to talk and who doesn't. This site doesn't need to DEMAND you post roll for some kind of "perceived" accountability to make you all feel special. You are going to crave or NOT crave, and posting isn't going to stop you, nor make you feel any better about your QUIT. The times I have POSTED, never had an impact on me one way or another; this freaking website isn't going to stop me from chewing if I ever decide to start again. True accountability is to FRIENDS and FAMILY--there are NO SUCH things as true friends or family on the INTERNET! Get it! It's just a fucking SCREEN in your face. So stop with your ACCOUNTABILITY horse shit on here. You people are all sucked into the FACEBOOK mentality with all your 100 friends crap. FACEBOOK sucks as well as all SOCIAL MEDIA internet sites! They do nothing for you except waste your god damn TIME. Your REAL life is where you are--go look in the MIRROR.

This website should be like a church where everyone is welcomed and not freaking JUDGED the minute they come in. Some people don't like to go to church every week. The church doesn't tell them that they are going to go to hell if they don't. But you turds here seem to think me or people like me that don't POST will FAIL. If I say I am doing GOOD without POSTING, then leave it at that. There is nothing wrong with me living my life without KTC.ORG every fucking day of my LIFE. If most of the dippers on here NEED it everyday, then good....I don't have a problem with that or any of you. But don't group me in with the group! Everyone is different. I'll do my quit the way I want to with the help of research and learning.

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Re: Day 1 someone shoot me please
« Reply #70 on: May 16, 2011, 01:33:00 PM »
BigDoucher aka mbm2:

I believe you said that you quit posting roll because you were "bored with it" or some such shit. We're bored with you so fuck off.

You'll get no sympathy from the roll posting quit mofos that live here.

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Re: Day 1 someone shoot me please
« Reply #69 on: May 16, 2011, 01:32:00 PM »
Well let's see. I don't like the way your program works. I don't want to do it your way. I wanna bitch about the way you do things round here.

Then hit the fuckin bricks. There is a site down the road that lets you do it your way all whilst holding your balls with one hand on patting you on the head with the other.

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Re: Day 1 someone shoot me please
« Reply #68 on: May 16, 2011, 01:24:00 PM »
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Nothing seems fun anymore without my can near by--this fucking SUCKS shit! I hope you easy quitters are having FUN in your easy, "look at me....this shit is easy I can do this all day routine!"

From 13 years old to 31 years in (13+31=44)! None of you know my TRUE pain! Skoal was a way of LIFE for me you fucktards!

I copied this from your original intro...God you have been a bitch with no balls from day 1.....Buuuuh Bye
mmmm....yeah, i dipped cope for 29 1/2 years....every waking moment....


i don't prolly get it at all......

where is the whaaaaaambulance when you need it.........the reason this place works is we do get it.

your addiction is no better/stronger/worse than any other quitter on here......



hike up your skirt, drink the kool-aide and quit or be gone you whiny assed pissant.
My name is mbm2, I mean BidDipper. I am a unique and special butterfly. None of you know know my true pain. I dipped for 29 1/2 years. Can you imagine my pain? Oh sure, this quit plan you have can work for you, but it shall be tweaked for me because I am a snowflake. A special snowflake. Special, in every sense of the word. Klark is mean. You all gang up on me. Waaaaaaaah! Waaaaaah! I do not understand why I am still an using nicotine. Waaaaaah. Waaaah.
Sounds familiar to me. Did I mention I have 2 1/2 year old twins at home?