Tired and terrified...

[Rampant]

Not everyone needs to be beat down. Especially not me. All I needed was time to make sure I could stay level headed. I didn't write this intro for you. It was for me to speak about the emotions rolling around in my head. It was for me to start the process of making sense of it all.
This was never a matter of looking for help/coddling, or to be told the only winning solution. You did more harm than good. Luckily, I had an understanding individual PM me, and simply encourage me. Apparently that's the extra edge I needed.

My method worked. Tossed the can this morning, after realizing that I wanted no more. Now I'm back at work, and have hardly even thought about it. 0900 I'm officially quit, piece of cake.
I may post roll and stick around, yet I might not. Either way, I'm forever free.

The methods and principles of this site are not for everyone, however if you look at all these guys offering their guidance to you they are all over 500+ days quit of nicotine.

Do you think none of them had jobs? None of them had wives? None of them had issues while quitting? Is it your understanding that since you had an easy day today that you are all set and its fuckin' sunshine and unicorns from here on out? You honestly believe that just because you went to pouches for a few days and your body isn't going to have a negative reaction at some point to you robbing it of your self medication of nicotine?

I am proud as hell for you for quitting honestly that is a damn great thing, but you are not "forever free" just because you had a "piece of cake" day. You need to adopt an attitude of one day at a time and envelope yourself into a web of quit that cannot be broken like in the past.

I wish you luck man, I do not need luck, you know why?? I post roll EDD on KTC Rampant 58 QLF Today!

[texasxb]

Not everyone needs to be beat down. Especially not me. All I needed was time to make sure I could stay level headed. I didn't write this intro for you. It was for me to speak about the emotions rolling around in my head. It was for me to start the process of making sense of it all.
This was never a matter of looking for help/coddling, or to be told the only winning solution. You did more harm than good. Luckily, I had an understanding individual PM me, and simply encourage me. Apparently that's the extra edge I needed.

My method worked. Tossed the can this morning, after realizing that I wanted no more. Now I'm back at work, and have hardly even thought about it. 0900 I'm officially quit, piece of cake.
I may post roll and stick around, yet I might not. Either way, I'm forever free.

[worktowin]

You
Can
Do
This

The guys responding to this thread might seem harsh... but it is just because we tried what you are trying so many times. Dude I've seen people talk abut weighing out and mixing and blending dip to wean down on nicotine levels. Does that sound like a junkie? Like someone in a dark alley shooting up? My friend... my fellow addict... the plan here works.

Withdrawal is withdrawal. It will be the same level of bad whether you wean yourself down (which spreads out the bad longer) or if you suck it up and quit. 25,000+ success stories are not a coincidence.

My offer stands. My number is yours for the asking. I promise you my full attention and effort. We will be a team, but my friend... as you can tell from my name... I like to win. If you are committed to winning, throw your nicotine out,post roll, and let me know. Together... we will win.

[Rawls]

Hey Texas....
Its time.
And All about Time.....
You will never quit if your thinking about the future.
Seems your talking about before and or after.... in every word you type.
Cant look in the Future OR THE Past.
Quiting is about right now!
And "right now".... Doesnt care what time a day it is, or how much I've worked, or slept.
You have to learn to handle "right now".. Without a drug.
It's not easy.... These minutes and seconds we must go through.
But you have the best quitters here in the world to help you.... If you post roll.
Lets start using all these relationships.
And quit trying to self medicate with pioson.
People help people quit...patches help people die!
I too am from Texas
Need to chat...Check you personal Massage inbox I left you my digits.
Rawls 710

[pab1964]

I haven't posted roll yet, because I went to the pouches twice during my 16 hr shift last night. I'm not proud of it, but was still a huge accomplishment. Today (rather tonight, due to working nights for a while), has been a bit easier. I feel that I finally have the strength to beat this, though I choose to take it slow. The last time I tried to quit, I simply tossed the can, and it almost cost me my marriage. The withdrawals and mood swings caused me to easily anger, and say things I didn't mean. She was gonna leave, if I didn't fix it. So I fixed it with a can.
This time is different. The will to quit is rock solid, but I won't rush it again and risk losing my wife.
I initially thought it would take me a couple of weeks, but I'm already seeing that it's happening much sooner.
Please have faith in me. I will not falter in my tobacco-free quest.

Dude... you can't fool an addict. This is gonna sound harsh, but you need to hear this. Heroin addicts don't succeed by just sticking the needle in twice in a day. Heroin and nicotine are the most addictive substances on earth.

Toss the can. Toss the pouches. NOW.

You wanna rage on someone? I'll happily give you my phone number. Happily. You can yell at me all day or night long. I'll take your rage dude. But we do have a few rules of engagement here... we are nicotine free, itvis how we roll, and we do not take rage out on our families. They didn't shove tobacco in our mouths and they don't take the blame for it.

I haven't lost faith in you or I wouldn't waste my time in the middle of the night typing to you, but if you don't throw your cans away RIGHT NOW I'm telling you that you are going down a path that we've all, including you, gone down many times before. It's like this dude...imagine having a really really hairy arm and having a really sticky band aid on it. Do you slowly take it off? Or do you pull it off quickly?

We know how to quit here. We all pussyfooted around, weaning ourselves or setting quit dates... and then we found this place. Do it man.

Want my number? Throw your cans out. Say yes. Let's do this. 1,404 days ago I was a slave too, curled up in a little ball crying like a weak piece of crap over a chopped up plant in a little round can... today I'm free. Let's do this.

Not trying to fool anyone. I'm being more open about this shit than I ever thought I could be. Yet I feel that I'm forced to defend myself for being honest. I respect the rules here, and have no intention of trying to post anywhere else til it's all gone.
I don't want to rage on anyone. I choose to take slow.
I appreciate and enjoy all the words of encouragement, and believe it or not, it's helping tremendously.
I'll be back to post roll shortly.

If I could figure out how to link my intro, you could read that I was just like you - which was terrified. This is a leap of faith moment, trust that you are here on this site to quit tobacco - not reinvent how to quit, there is only ONE WAY.

You will never get any support if you continue to use. Back when I refused to quit and wore a patch and slunk around this site for 30 days I was called a pussy and a coward, seems like 2016 is a much friendlier time.

Not from this guy Thumble...

This thread is complete bullshit.

And weak.

Dude... it doesn't matter if you do it only a "little bit" or a lot... you're still an actively using addict. Quitting isn't slowing down. Quitting is fucking Quitting! Does that compute? Every method is cold turkey at some point because YOU HAVE TO STOP USING EVENTUALLY! You're prolonging your pain.

That's just stupid.

And...

While being an active user "slowing down" so that it's all better for everyone involved... how do you know that the next pouch you stick in your maw isn't the "ONE" that turns healthy tissue into a cancerous nightmare???? You're playing roulette and... you're gonna lose.

I chewed for 25 years and 2 cans a day for a damn big chunk of it. Today?... 1,290 clean. If I can... you can.

Until you actually man up and do this... no more facebook status updates. We don't wanna hear about your progress on your way to quitting.

We just wanna hear "I. Quit."

Damn skippy! ^^^ Be a man! How in the helll can a grown ass man be scared of a tin? Come on dude, do it now or you'll still be weaning yourself 2 years down the road. Im talking from experience. I hope we piss you off! Take the rage and quit with it. I dipped 38 years and im 670 day's quit and that's only possible because of Ktc ODAAT! No doctor has a quit prescription that comes close to some of these Ktc professors! Now grab your damn sack, be a man and get this done!

[AppleJack]

I haven't posted roll yet, because I went to the pouches twice during my 16 hr shift last night. I'm not proud of it, but was still a huge accomplishment. Today (rather tonight, due to working nights for a while), has been a bit easier. I feel that I finally have the strength to beat this, though I choose to take it slow. The last time I tried to quit, I simply tossed the can, and it almost cost me my marriage. The withdrawals and mood swings caused me to easily anger, and say things I didn't mean. She was gonna leave, if I didn't fix it. So I fixed it with a can.
This time is different. The will to quit is rock solid, but I won't rush it again and risk losing my wife.
I initially thought it would take me a couple of weeks, but I'm already seeing that it's happening much sooner.
Please have faith in me. I will not falter in my tobacco-free quest.

Dude... you can't fool an addict. This is gonna sound harsh, but you need to hear this. Heroin addicts don't succeed by just sticking the needle in twice in a day. Heroin and nicotine are the most addictive substances on earth.

Toss the can. Toss the pouches. NOW.

You wanna rage on someone? I'll happily give you my phone number. Happily. You can yell at me all day or night long. I'll take your rage dude. But we do have a few rules of engagement here... we are nicotine free, itvis how we roll, and we do not take rage out on our families. They didn't shove tobacco in our mouths and they don't take the blame for it.

I haven't lost faith in you or I wouldn't waste my time in the middle of the night typing to you, but if you don't throw your cans away RIGHT NOW I'm telling you that you are going down a path that we've all, including you, gone down many times before. It's like this dude...imagine having a really really hairy arm and having a really sticky band aid on it. Do you slowly take it off? Or do you pull it off quickly?

We know how to quit here. We all pussyfooted around, weaning ourselves or setting quit dates... and then we found this place. Do it man.

Want my number? Throw your cans out. Say yes. Let's do this. 1,404 days ago I was a slave too, curled up in a little ball crying like a weak piece of crap over a chopped up plant in a little round can... today I'm free. Let's do this.

Not trying to fool anyone. I'm being more open about this shit than I ever thought I could be. Yet I feel that I'm forced to defend myself for being honest. I respect the rules here, and have no intention of trying to post anywhere else til it's all gone.
I don't want to rage on anyone. I choose to take slow.
I appreciate and enjoy all the words of encouragement, and believe it or not, it's helping tremendously.
I'll be back to post roll shortly.

If I could figure out how to link my intro, you could read that I was just like you - which was terrified. This is a leap of faith moment, trust that you are here on this site to quit tobacco - not reinvent how to quit, there is only ONE WAY.

You will never get any support if you continue to use. Back when I refused to quit and wore a patch and slunk around this site for 30 days I was called a pussy and a coward, seems like 2016 is a much friendlier time.

Not from this guy Thumble...

This thread is complete bullshit.

And weak.

Dude... it doesn't matter if you do it only a "little bit" or a lot... you're still an actively using addict. Quitting isn't slowing down. Quitting is fucking Quitting! Does that compute? Every method is cold turkey at some point because YOU HAVE TO STOP USING EVENTUALLY! You're prolonging your pain.

That's just stupid.

And...

While being an active user "slowing down" so that it's all better for everyone involved... how do you know that the next pouch you stick in your maw isn't the "ONE" that turns healthy tissue into a cancerous nightmare???? You're playing roulette and... you're gonna lose.

I chewed for 25 years and 2 cans a day for a damn big chunk of it. Today?... 1,290 clean. If I can... you can.

Until you actually man up and do this... no more facebook status updates. We don't wanna hear about your progress on your way to quitting.

We just wanna hear "I. Quit."

[Thumblewort]

I haven't posted roll yet, because I went to the pouches twice during my 16 hr shift last night. I'm not proud of it, but was still a huge accomplishment. Today (rather tonight, due to working nights for a while), has been a bit easier. I feel that I finally have the strength to beat this, though I choose to take it slow. The last time I tried to quit, I simply tossed the can, and it almost cost me my marriage. The withdrawals and mood swings caused me to easily anger, and say things I didn't mean. She was gonna leave, if I didn't fix it. So I fixed it with a can.
This time is different. The will to quit is rock solid, but I won't rush it again and risk losing my wife.
I initially thought it would take me a couple of weeks, but I'm already seeing that it's happening much sooner.
Please have faith in me. I will not falter in my tobacco-free quest.

Dude... you can't fool an addict. This is gonna sound harsh, but you need to hear this. Heroin addicts don't succeed by just sticking the needle in twice in a day. Heroin and nicotine are the most addictive substances on earth.

Toss the can. Toss the pouches. NOW.

You wanna rage on someone? I'll happily give you my phone number. Happily. You can yell at me all day or night long. I'll take your rage dude. But we do have a few rules of engagement here... we are nicotine free, itvis how we roll, and we do not take rage out on our families. They didn't shove tobacco in our mouths and they don't take the blame for it.

I haven't lost faith in you or I wouldn't waste my time in the middle of the night typing to you, but if you don't throw your cans away RIGHT NOW I'm telling you that you are going down a path that we've all, including you, gone down many times before. It's like this dude...imagine having a really really hairy arm and having a really sticky band aid on it. Do you slowly take it off? Or do you pull it off quickly?

We know how to quit here. We all pussyfooted around, weaning ourselves or setting quit dates... and then we found this place. Do it man.

Want my number? Throw your cans out. Say yes. Let's do this. 1,404 days ago I was a slave too, curled up in a little ball crying like a weak piece of crap over a chopped up plant in a little round can... today I'm free. Let's do this.

Not trying to fool anyone. I'm being more open about this shit than I ever thought I could be. Yet I feel that I'm forced to defend myself for being honest. I respect the rules here, and have no intention of trying to post anywhere else til it's all gone.
I don't want to rage on anyone. I choose to take slow.
I appreciate and enjoy all the words of encouragement, and believe it or not, it's helping tremendously.
I'll be back to post roll shortly.

If I could figure out how to link my intro, you could read that I was just like you - which was terrified. This is a leap of faith moment, trust that you are here on this site to quit tobacco - not reinvent how to quit, there is only ONE WAY.

You will never get any support if you continue to use. Back when I refused to quit and wore a patch and slunk around this site for 30 days I was called a pussy and a coward, seems like 2016 is a much friendlier time.

[texasxb]

I haven't posted roll yet, because I went to the pouches twice during my 16 hr shift last night. I'm not proud of it, but was still a huge accomplishment. Today (rather tonight, due to working nights for a while), has been a bit easier. I feel that I finally have the strength to beat this, though I choose to take it slow. The last time I tried to quit, I simply tossed the can, and it almost cost me my marriage. The withdrawals and mood swings caused me to easily anger, and say things I didn't mean. She was gonna leave, if I didn't fix it. So I fixed it with a can.
This time is different. The will to quit is rock solid, but I won't rush it again and risk losing my wife.
I initially thought it would take me a couple of weeks, but I'm already seeing that it's happening much sooner.
Please have faith in me. I will not falter in my tobacco-free quest.

Dude... you can't fool an addict. This is gonna sound harsh, but you need to hear this. Heroin addicts don't succeed by just sticking the needle in twice in a day. Heroin and nicotine are the most addictive substances on earth.

Toss the can. Toss the pouches. NOW.

You wanna rage on someone? I'll happily give you my phone number. Happily. You can yell at me all day or night long. I'll take your rage dude. But we do have a few rules of engagement here... we are nicotine free, itvis how we roll, and we do not take rage out on our families. They didn't shove tobacco in our mouths and they don't take the blame for it.

I haven't lost faith in you or I wouldn't waste my time in the middle of the night typing to you, but if you don't throw your cans away RIGHT NOW I'm telling you that you are going down a path that we've all, including you, gone down many times before. It's like this dude...imagine having a really really hairy arm and having a really sticky band aid on it. Do you slowly take it off? Or do you pull it off quickly?

We know how to quit here. We all pussyfooted around, weaning ourselves or setting quit dates... and then we found this place. Do it man.

Want my number? Throw your cans out. Say yes. Let's do this. 1,404 days ago I was a slave too, curled up in a little ball crying like a weak piece of crap over a chopped up plant in a little round can... today I'm free. Let's do this.

Not trying to fool anyone. I'm being more open about this shit than I ever thought I could be. Yet I feel that I'm forced to defend myself for being honest. I respect the rules here, and have no intention of trying to post anywhere else til it's all gone.
I don't want to rage on anyone. I choose to take slow.
I appreciate and enjoy all the words of encouragement, and believe it or not, it's helping tremendously.
I'll be back to post roll shortly.

[RDB]

What he said ^. We've all been exactly where you are. Fear of raging against the family? Yep. After you've set yourself free of the chains of this addiction you wil see exactly what it has stolen from your family.

The path that you are on inevitably leads back to full-on daily constant use. We know. We've done it before. All of us. That little voice telling you that you needed those two pouches - that's your addiction. It wants to be fed. You must starve it.

Throw the can. Post roll. Promise to remain nicotine free. Keep your promise. That is how you quit.

[worktowin]

I haven't posted roll yet, because I went to the pouches twice during my 16 hr shift last night. I'm not proud of it, but was still a huge accomplishment. Today (rather tonight, due to working nights for a while), has been a bit easier. I feel that I finally have the strength to beat this, though I choose to take it slow. The last time I tried to quit, I simply tossed the can, and it almost cost me my marriage. The withdrawals and mood swings caused me to easily anger, and say things I didn't mean. She was gonna leave, if I didn't fix it. So I fixed it with a can.
This time is different. The will to quit is rock solid, but I won't rush it again and risk losing my wife.
I initially thought it would take me a couple of weeks, but I'm already seeing that it's happening much sooner.
Please have faith in me. I will not falter in my tobacco-free quest.

Dude... you can't fool an addict. This is gonna sound harsh, but you need to hear this. Heroin addicts don't succeed by just sticking the needle in twice in a day. Heroin and nicotine are the most addictive substances on earth.

Toss the can. Toss the pouches. NOW.

You wanna rage on someone? I'll happily give you my phone number. Happily. You can yell at me all day or night long. I'll take your rage dude. But we do have a few rules of engagement here... we are nicotine free, itvis how we roll, and we do not take rage out on our families. They didn't shove tobacco in our mouths and they don't take the blame for it.

I haven't lost faith in you or I wouldn't waste my time in the middle of the night typing to you, but if you don't throw your cans away RIGHT NOW I'm telling you that you are going down a path that we've all, including you, gone down many times before. It's like this dude...imagine having a really really hairy arm and having a really sticky band aid on it. Do you slowly take it off? Or do you pull it off quickly?

We know how to quit here. We all pussyfooted around, weaning ourselves or setting quit dates... and then we found this place. Do it man.

Want my number? Throw your cans out. Say yes. Let's do this. 1,404 days ago I was a slave too, curled up in a little ball crying like a weak piece of crap over a chopped up plant in a little round can... today I'm free. Let's do this.

[texasxb]

I haven't posted roll yet, because I went to the pouches twice during my 16 hr shift last night. I'm not proud of it, but was still a huge accomplishment. Today (rather tonight, due to working nights for a while), has been a bit easier. I feel that I finally have the strength to beat this, though I choose to take it slow. The last time I tried to quit, I simply tossed the can, and it almost cost me my marriage. The withdrawals and mood swings caused me to easily anger, and say things I didn't mean. She was gonna leave, if I didn't fix it. So I fixed it with a can.
This time is different. The will to quit is rock solid, but I won't rush it again and risk losing my wife.
I initially thought it would take me a couple of weeks, but I'm already seeing that it's happening much sooner.
Please have faith in me. I will not falter in my tobacco-free quest.

[jpetmpls]

Dip does not define you. Dip isn't who who are. It isn't your pleasure source in life. It doesn't make things easier. It doesnt help one single thing in life. Not one. Nicotine takes... money, health, integrity, freedom, and the withdrawal of not using it.

This is the gospel. Once you reach this realization, the path is clear and you will walk it with certainty. Just gotta take that first step.

[brettlees]

Dude you've had some hellaciously strong quitters weigh in for you here, and some amazing advice. Yet, you haven't posted roll yet. You supposedly started two days before today. You were on the site early this morning. Time to jump in with both feet! Don't be one of those guys that tries every three to five years to quit, the average amount of time it takes to re-garner the nuts to try again. Just do it now, all the way. Can't you smell the freedom?

This batch of guys that have offered you a hand and guidance is amazing- please please be a guy who deserves it!

[eyehatecope]

One of my biggest fears/thoughts were, I am so nervous without dip. That's why I dip. It calms me down.

Guess what? Since I've quit that is a BS. Actually, I'm less nervous without it. All dip provided me was a way to tell me that I needed the nicotine. A way to say, go buy more because you will run out. Then what will you do? I know, drive X amount of miles no matter the time of day to buy more.

You either quit cold turkey and with the help of this site and the sisters and brothers or you don't and that's my opinion.

[Thumblewort]

I was scared too. I used a patch to ween down because cold turkey wouldn't work for me, right? Wrong! In fact, I got to go through withdrawals twice. It sucks bad a a few days, then it's mind over matter. Do it now!

As far a Chantrix goes, I've always heard as long as it's not nicotine, use it.