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Offline BaylorGrad19

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Yea, I joined KTC for about a day, and then quickly realized the kind of charlatans these people were. 

I too, was just like you, sitting there reading about all these success stories, all these amazing recovery stories. I too thought drinking the kool-aid was worth it in the end if it meant I could quit.

Holy Fuck was I wrong.

The real truth about this place is you arent joining a loving family, youre joining a cult. A cult filled with alpha males hopped up on too much testorone, acting like gods gifts to men. That sentence alone should scare you.   

Im not the only one out there that has realized the joke that KTC is. Go digging around on the internet, and you will find many stories of ex-members who tell the same tales of being treated like garbage, mocked, ridiculed, flogged and beaten.   

KTC likes to tout their "high success rate", but many of the members are habitual at lieing. Dig around the forum and you will find many contradicting posts from members. Its right there out in the open, plain as day the deceit that is rampant here, to anyone who has half a mind to actually be able to think for themselves. 

But thats not why youre here right? Youre unable to think on your own, so you figure joining a flock of sheep is the only way to quit. 

I quit. Quit on my own. I caved day 1. And I received more foul messages from "outstanding quitters" in one day, then Ive received in my entire life for anything else. Talk about double standards.   

After that, I quit drinking the kool-aid before I lost my soul to it. So I quit on my own again, and I still remain nicotine free. Do yourself a favor and dont join the cult.

Like my grandpa always said, "Theres more honor and pride in doing something on your own, then following the flock."
Speaking to any prospective quitters that are reading this, rather than to DirtRoad, who is almost certainly not a “real” quitter, but someone who has been here before and came back with an obvious agenda to try to make us look bad, I will say he got one thing right.

KTC is not a family.  Your family will love you unconditionally, will pat you on the back and hug you through your failures and post your drawings up on the fridge, even when they look like they’ve been drawn by a chimpanzee with a learning disability.  KTC is not that.  KTC is a system with the specific mandate of helping individuals defeat their addiction to a deadly chemical.

The love and support here absolutely come with conditions.  Those conditions are pretty simple and if you maintain them, there is a ceaseless supply of support, encouragement and genuine friendship.  However, that is predicated on you holding up your end of the bargain.  Post your promise every day, keep your word and then do it again tomorrow.   That is how we quit.  That is how I was able to cross my four year mark the other day and that is how thousands of others have been able to break the cycle of failure and addiction.

Failure, deception and obstinance are simply not acceptable.  If you don’t like the way things are done here, that’s totally ok, you live in a free country and can take your quit attempts elsewhere.  We’re not changing what works for us to appease your sensibilities. 

I will repeat so it’s really clear: This is not a family, this is a program dedicated to defeating addiction to nicotine.  If you aren’t committed to quitting nicotine, don’t waste your time or mine by spending another minute here.  However, if you are willing to put in the work and freedom is something that you truly want for yourself, this system is the best way that I’ve found to achieve it.

Unbelievably well said PKY. Only thing you regretted to include was the mic drop and the PERIOD.

There’s nothing special or fraudulent about any of us. We all come from different backgrounds, careers, and educations. We all have our struggles, challenges, and short-comings in life. I wish we were graced with luck and had it easy, but the truth is we all are dealing with some problem or challenge, whether it’s big or small. The one thing we all do have in common though: we all choose to quit one day at a time. We all know that nicotine will not help our other problems disappear, in fact all nicotine does is create another problem we have to deal with. We all choose not to create another problem. What are you going to choose for yourself? I don’t care if you stay with KTC, but I hope the best for you and that eventually you do break your addiction. If you would like to use the information here, you can still do that even without posting. There’s some valuable insight here that has definitely helped me in my quit. I would recommend you post another day 1 because that’s what worked for me, but do what you think is best for you and whether that means KTC isn’t going to work for you or you start posting, just make the right decision for yourself.
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Yea, I joined KTC for about a day, and then quickly realized the kind of charlatans these people were. 

I too, was just like you, sitting there reading about all these success stories, all these amazing recovery stories. I too thought drinking the kool-aid was worth it in the end if it meant I could quit.

Holy Fuck was I wrong.

The real truth about this place is you arent joining a loving family, youre joining a cult. A cult filled with alpha males hopped up on too much testorone, acting like gods gifts to men. That sentence alone should scare you.   

Im not the only one out there that has realized the joke that KTC is. Go digging around on the internet, and you will find many stories of ex-members who tell the same tales of being treated like garbage, mocked, ridiculed, flogged and beaten.   

KTC likes to tout their "high success rate", but many of the members are habitual at lieing. Dig around the forum and you will find many contradicting posts from members. Its right there out in the open, plain as day the deceit that is rampant here, to anyone who has half a mind to actually be able to think for themselves. 

But thats not why youre here right? Youre unable to think on your own, so you figure joining a flock of sheep is the only way to quit. 

I quit. Quit on my own. I caved day 1. And I received more foul messages from "outstanding quitters" in one day, then Ive received in my entire life for anything else. Talk about double standards.   

After that, I quit drinking the kool-aid before I lost my soul to it. So I quit on my own again, and I still remain nicotine free. Do yourself a favor and dont join the cult.

Like my grandpa always said, "Theres more honor and pride in doing something on your own, then following the flock."
Speaking to any prospective quitters that are reading this, rather than to DirtRoad, who is almost certainly not a “real” quitter, but someone who has been here before and came back with an obvious agenda to try to make us look bad, I will say he got one thing right.

KTC is not a family.  Your family will love you unconditionally, will pat you on the back and hug you through your failures and post your drawings up on the fridge, even when they look like they’ve been drawn by a chimpanzee with a learning disability.  KTC is not that.  KTC is a system with the specific mandate of helping individuals defeat their addiction to a deadly chemical.

The love and support here absolutely come with conditions.  Those conditions are pretty simple and if you maintain them, there is a ceaseless supply of support, encouragement and genuine friendship.  However, that is predicated on you holding up your end of the bargain.  Post your promise every day, keep your word and then do it again tomorrow.   That is how we quit.  That is how I was able to cross my four year mark the other day and that is how thousands of others have been able to break the cycle of failure and addiction.

Failure, deception and obstinance are simply not acceptable.  If you don’t like the way things are done here, that’s totally ok, you live in a free country and can take your quit attempts elsewhere.  We’re not changing what works for us to appease your sensibilities. 

I will repeat so it’s really clear: This is not a family, this is a program dedicated to defeating addiction to nicotine.  If you aren’t committed to quitting nicotine, don’t waste your time or mine by spending another minute here.  However, if you are willing to put in the work and freedom is something that you truly want for yourself, this system is the best way that I’ve found to achieve it.

Unbelievably well said PKY. Only thing you regretted to include was the mic drop and the PERIOD.

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Yea, I joined KTC for about a day, and then quickly realized the kind of charlatans these people were. 

I too, was just like you, sitting there reading about all these success stories, all these amazing recovery stories. I too thought drinking the kool-aid was worth it in the end if it meant I could quit.

Holy Fuck was I wrong.

The real truth about this place is you arent joining a loving family, youre joining a cult. A cult filled with alpha males hopped up on too much testorone, acting like gods gifts to men. That sentence alone should scare you.   

Im not the only one out there that has realized the joke that KTC is. Go digging around on the internet, and you will find many stories of ex-members who tell the same tales of being treated like garbage, mocked, ridiculed, flogged and beaten.   

KTC likes to tout their "high success rate", but many of the members are habitual at lieing. Dig around the forum and you will find many contradicting posts from members. Its right there out in the open, plain as day the deceit that is rampant here, to anyone who has half a mind to actually be able to think for themselves. 

But thats not why youre here right? Youre unable to think on your own, so you figure joining a flock of sheep is the only way to quit. 

I quit. Quit on my own. I caved day 1. And I received more foul messages from "outstanding quitters" in one day, then Ive received in my entire life for anything else. Talk about double standards.   

After that, I quit drinking the kool-aid before I lost my soul to it. So I quit on my own again, and I still remain nicotine free. Do yourself a favor and dont join the cult.

Like my grandpa always said, "Theres more honor and pride in doing something on your own, then following the flock."
Speaking to any prospective quitters that are reading this, rather than to DirtRoad, who is almost certainly not a “real” quitter, but someone who has been here before and came back with an obvious agenda to try to make us look bad, I will say he got one thing right.

KTC is not a family.  Your family will love you unconditionally, will pat you on the back and hug you through your failures and post your drawings up on the fridge, even when they look like they’ve been drawn by a chimpanzee with a learning disability.  KTC is not that.  KTC is a system with the specific mandate of helping individuals defeat their addiction to a deadly chemical.

The love and support here absolutely come with conditions.  Those conditions are pretty simple and if you maintain them, there is a ceaseless supply of support, encouragement and genuine friendship.  However, that is predicated on you holding up your end of the bargain.  Post your promise every day, keep your word and then do it again tomorrow.   That is how we quit.  That is how I was able to cross my four year mark the other day and that is how thousands of others have been able to break the cycle of failure and addiction.

Failure, deception and obstinance are simply not acceptable.  If you don’t like the way things are done here, that’s totally ok, you live in a free country and can take your quit attempts elsewhere.  We’re not changing what works for us to appease your sensibilities. 

I will repeat so it’s really clear: This is not a family, this is a program dedicated to defeating addiction to nicotine.  If you aren’t committed to quitting nicotine, don’t waste your time or mine by spending another minute here.  However, if you are willing to put in the work and freedom is something that you truly want for yourself, this system is the best way that I’ve found to achieve it.
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Hey @DirtRoad89 if this place is so horrible, why do you keep coming back? To troll? I will tell you this one time and one time only, you get ONE intro per quitter. This one will now be merged with your previous one. Create any more and there will be administrative review.

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Yea, I joined KTC for about a day, and then quickly realized the kind of charlatans these people were. 

I too, was just like you, sitting there reading about all these success stories, all these amazing recovery stories. I too thought drinking the kool-aid was worth it in the end if it meant I could quit.

Holy Fuck was I wrong.

The real truth about this place is you arent joining a loving family, youre joining a cult. A cult filled with alpha males hopped up on too much testorone, acting like gods gifts to men. That sentence alone should scare you.   

Im not the only one out there that has realized the joke that KTC is. Go digging around on the internet, and you will find many stories of ex-members who tell the same tales of being treated like garbage, mocked, ridiculed, flogged and beaten.   

KTC likes to tout their "high success rate", but many of the members are habitual at lieing. Dig around the forum and you will find many contradicting posts from members. Its right there out in the open, plain as day the deceit that is rampant here, to anyone who has half a mind to actually be able to think for themselves. 

But thats not why youre here right? Youre unable to think on your own, so you figure joining a flock of sheep is the only way to quit. 

I quit. Quit on my own. I caved day 1. And I received more foul messages from "outstanding quitters" in one day, then Ive received in my entire life for anything else. Talk about double standards.   

After that, I quit drinking the kool-aid before I lost my soul to it. So I quit on my own again, and I still remain nicotine free. Do yourself a favor and dont join the cult.

Like my grandpa always said, "Theres more honor and pride in doing something on your own, then following the flock."

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Re: Ready to quit, but cold turkey isnt an option
« Reply #34 on: April 29, 2020, 11:56:34 PM »
Alright, lets say I do join the cult. Whats gonna stop me from cheating? What actual accountability is there? I can easily see myself having a moment of weakness and dipping still. Im sure my words have been spoken a million times here before, but like stressful job + local culture + lack of willpower, how the fuck do you actually have accountability for that to keep people from lying and being honest? How do I know that my group doesnt have a bunch of lyers in it telling me, hell, how do I know that anyone here is being truthful theyve actually quit, or dont indulge from time to time?
Because you’d have to be a total psychopath to continue to post a fraudulent number.  All you’d be doing is coming to this site and lying to yourself and others day in and day out, for zero gain.  I’m sure that there are people who have done this, but I have to believe that they get tired of it and drift away pretty damn fast.  Like what would you possibly have to gain by lying about your quit date?  It’s not like you get paid by tenure here or something.

Beside, most people don’t like to lie.  Lying like that would make most humans feel like a piece of shit.  Would you not feel like a piece of shit if you told a lie every day?

The people posting here every day actually want to quit.  That’s kind of the purpose of this whole thing.  Lying, fighting and trying to buck the system really only hurts your chances of being successful.  You are more than welcome to try it your way, have at it hoss.  We’ll be here quitting every day if you ever decide to get serious.
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Re: Ready to quit, but cold turkey isnt an option
« Reply #33 on: April 29, 2020, 08:43:29 PM »
Alright, lets say I do join the cult. Whats gonna stop me from cheating? What actual accountability is there? I can easily see myself having a moment of weakness and dipping still. Im sure my words have been spoken a million times here before, but like stressful job + local culture + lack of willpower, how the fuck do you actually have accountability for that to keep people from lying and being honest? How do I know that my group doesnt have a bunch of lyers in it telling me, hell, how do I know that anyone here is being truthful theyve actually quit, or dont indulge from time to time?
Because you’d have to be a total psychopath to continue to post a fraudulent number.  All you’d be doing is coming to this site and lying to yourself and others day in and day out, for zero gain.  I’m sure that there are people who have done this, but I have to believe that they get tired of it and drift away pretty damn fast.  Like what would you possibly have to gain by lying about your quit date?  It’s not like you get paid by tenure here or something.

Beside, most people don’t like to lie.  Lying like that would make most humans feel like a piece of shit.  Would you not feel like a piece of shit if you told a lie every day?

The people posting here every day actually want to quit.  That’s kind of the purpose of this whole thing.  Lying, fighting and trying to buck the system really only hurts your chances of being successful.  You are more than welcome to try it your way, have at it hoss.  We’ll be here quitting every day if you ever decide to get serious.

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Re: Ready to quit, but cold turkey isnt an option
« Reply #32 on: April 29, 2020, 10:13:36 AM »
"So instead my goal for today is to go 24 hours without. Tommorrow, I will make the goal, another 24 hours."

That is the goal brother. ODAAT. You can do it, be true to yourself and get in the quitter's mindset.
He IS being true to himself...

He’s too in love with his addiction and isn’t man enough to strap in and ride it out.

He posted day 1 and then caved later in the day.

Bye.

I tried with this cat all day yesterday. Gave him quit gold all damn day. Yet... he gave in.

This place isn’t for him to “try” again.

Hell. No.

Bye.
Same here AJ. Called him multiple times and texted with for. A good part of the day. It is sad. He really doesn’t want to quit.
His intro is overflowing with bullshit. AppleJack nailed it by saying DirtRoad is too much in love with his addiction. A couple people like that come through here every year. It's like they lose their true selves. Their addiction swallows them completely. Most of us come here feeling like prisoners...owned and controlled, but there is a defiant fucker in us who wants to make a jail break. We know what freedom means and, even though we think we are going to fall apart or somehow die trying to achieve it, we are ready to take that risk. DirtRoad enjoys his cell... he gets his 3 meals a day, has a roof over his head, and nothing much is asked of him, so he is willing to take any abuse, abuse himself, and convince himself that he loves it. Hell, we all did that for a long time, but sooner or later integrity came calling and we knew what we had to do. Find that little atom of defiant fucker you still have left in there, somewhere, and ask it what it wants. 
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Re: Ready to quit, but cold turkey isnt an option
« Reply #31 on: April 27, 2020, 08:05:52 PM »
"So instead my goal for today is to go 24 hours without. Tommorrow, I will make the goal, another 24 hours."

That is the goal brother. ODAAT. You can do it, be true to yourself and get in the quitter's mindset.
He IS being true to himself...

He’s too in love with his addiction and isn’t man enough to strap in and ride it out.

He posted day 1 and then caved later in the day.

Bye.

I tried with this cat all day yesterday. Gave him quit gold all damn day. Yet... he gave in.

This place isn’t for him to “try” again.

Hell. No.

Bye.
Same here AJ. Called him multiple times and texted with for. A good part of the day. It is sad. He really doesn’t want to quit.
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Re: Ready to quit, but cold turkey isnt an option
« Reply #30 on: April 27, 2020, 12:43:23 PM »
"So instead my goal for today is to go 24 hours without. Tommorrow, I will make the goal, another 24 hours."

That is the goal brother. ODAAT. You can do it, be true to yourself and get in the quitter's mindset.
He IS being true to himself...

He’s too in love with his addiction and isn’t man enough to strap in and ride it out.

He posted day 1 and then caved later in the day.

Bye.

I tried with this cat all day yesterday. Gave him quit gold all damn day. Yet... he gave in.

This place isn’t for him to “try” again.

Hell. No.

Bye.
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Re: Ready to quit, but cold turkey isnt an option
« Reply #29 on: April 27, 2020, 12:07:02 PM »
"So instead my goal for today is to go 24 hours without. Tommorrow, I will make the goal, another 24 hours."

That is the goal brother. ODAAT. You can do it, be true to yourself and get in the quitter's mindset.
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Re: Ready to quit, but cold turkey isnt an option
« Reply #28 on: April 27, 2020, 10:36:07 AM »
Alright, lets say I do join the cult. Whats gonna stop me from cheating? What actual accountability is there? I can easily see myself having a moment of weakness and dipping still. Im sure my words have been spoken a million times here before, but like stressful job + local culture + lack of willpower, how the fuck do you actually have accountability for that to keep people from lying and being honest? How do I know that my group doesnt have a bunch of lyers in it telling me, hell, how do I know that anyone here is being truthful theyve actually quit, or dont indulge from time to time?
@DirtRoad89 absolutely nobody is going to stop you from cheating. There is no KTC police that watches you to make sure you aren't packing your face with poison. That being said, KTC works because we are men and women of our words and operating with honesty and integrity. Lot of people here didn't necessarily want to quit when they made the leap but they trust the process and dove in headfirst. A common phrase you will hear around here is "all we have is our word". When you post roll each and every morning when you wake up, you are making a promise to yourself and to the entire KTC community that you will do whatever it takes to be nicotine free for the next 24 hours. You honor that word and keep yourself honest by sharing digits with your fellow quitters and reaching out via text or phone calls when you are craving or shit is getting tough. You grind it out 5 minutes, 10 minutes, 30 minutes or 1 hour at a time and honor your word. If you fuck up and come back here lying, pretending nothing happened, that will get you banned from the site. Losing the credibility of your word is a tough thing to regain so think carefully before your jeopardize it.

No one here "indulges from time to time" because we have given our word and honor that promise. We have learned to loathe nicotine in every form since it does nothing but steal our freedom, our money, our health as well as injure our relationships. 1 problem + nicotine = 2 problems. You have to stop fantasizing about a chemical that is holding you hostage and trying to kill you.

And a final note, what would be the point of a bunch of people on a free internet forum for quitting nicotine to hang out here if we have been lying and using? Why would we waste our time trying to help stubborn people like you while using? We practice what we preach. We have been in your shoes and know how difficult and daunting it is. We know the craves, the struggles, the mind games. We just can't quit for you - you have to quit for yourself and let us help along the way.

This is great and applicable for all people struggling with quitting. @MNxEngineer314 bump
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Re: Ready to quit, but cold turkey isnt an option
« Reply #27 on: April 27, 2020, 10:28:27 AM »
Alright, lets say I do join the cult. Whats gonna stop me from cheating? What actual accountability is there? I can easily see myself having a moment of weakness and dipping still. Im sure my words have been spoken a million times here before, but like stressful job + local culture + lack of willpower, how the fuck do you actually have accountability for that to keep people from lying and being honest? How do I know that my group doesnt have a bunch of lyers in it telling me, hell, how do I know that anyone here is being truthful theyve actually quit, or dont indulge from time to time?
@DirtRoad89 absolutely nobody is going to stop you from cheating. There is no KTC police that watches you to make sure you aren't packing your face with poison. That being said, KTC works because we are men and women of our words and operating with honesty and integrity. Lot of people here didn't necessarily want to quit when they made the leap but they trust the process and dove in headfirst. A common phrase you will hear around here is "all we have is our word". When you post roll each and every morning when you wake up, you are making a promise to yourself and to the entire KTC community that you will do whatever it takes to be nicotine free for the next 24 hours. You honor that word and keep yourself honest by sharing digits with your fellow quitters and reaching out via text or phone calls when you are craving or shit is getting tough. You grind it out 5 minutes, 10 minutes, 30 minutes or 1 hour at a time and honor your word. If you fuck up and come back here lying, pretending nothing happened, that will get you banned from the site. Losing the credibility of your word is a tough thing to regain so think carefully before your jeopardize it.

No one here "indulges from time to time" because we have given our word and honor that promise. We have learned to loathe nicotine in every form since it does nothing but steal our freedom, our money, our health as well as injure our relationships. 1 problem + nicotine = 2 problems. You have to stop fantasizing about a chemical that is holding you hostage and trying to kill you.

And a final note, what would be the point of a bunch of people on a free internet forum for quitting nicotine to hang out here if we have been lying and using? Why would we waste our time trying to help stubborn people like you while using? We practice what we preach. We have been in your shoes and know how difficult and daunting it is. We know the craves, the struggles, the mind games. We just can't quit for you - you have to quit for yourself and let us help along the way.
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Re: Ready to quit, but cold turkey isnt an option
« Reply #26 on: April 27, 2020, 10:20:06 AM »
Alright, lets say I do join the cult. Whats gonna stop me from cheating? What actual accountability is there? I can easily see myself having a moment of weakness and dipping still. Im sure my words have been spoken a million times here before, but like stressful job + local culture + lack of willpower, how the fuck do you actually have accountability for that to keep people from lying and being honest? How do I know that my group doesnt have a bunch of lyers in it telling me, hell, how do I know that anyone here is being truthful theyve actually quit, or dont indulge from time to time?
@DirtRoad89 absolutely nobody is going to stop you from cheating. There is no KTC police that watches you to make sure you aren't packing your face with poison. That being said, KTC works because we are men and women of our words and operating with honesty and integrity. Lot of people here didn't necessarily want to quit when they made the leap but they trust the process and dove in headfirst. A common phrase you will hear around here is "all we have is our word". When you post roll each and every morning when you wake up, you are making a promise to yourself and to the entire KTC community that you will do whatever it takes to be nicotine free for the next 24 hours. You honor that word and keep yourself honest by sharing digits with your fellow quitters and reaching out via text or phone calls when you are craving or shit is getting tough. You grind it out 5 minutes, 10 minutes, 30 minutes or 1 hour at a time and honor your word. If you fuck up and come back here lying, pretending nothing happened, that will get you banned from the site. Losing the credibility of your word is a tough thing to regain so think carefully before your jeopardize it.

No one here "indulges from time to time" because we have given our word and honor that promise. We have learned to loathe nicotine in every form since it does nothing but steal our freedom, our money, our health as well as injure our relationships. 1 problem + nicotine = 2 problems. You have to stop fantasizing about a chemical that is holding you hostage and trying to kill you.

And a final note, what would be the point of a bunch of people on a free internet forum for quitting nicotine to hang out here if we have been lying and using? Why would we waste our time trying to help stubborn people like you while using? We practice what we preach. We have been in your shoes and know how difficult and daunting it is. We know the craves, the struggles, the mind games. We just can't quit for you - you have to quit for yourself and let us help along the way.
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Re: Alright, all my real shit is gone. Where do I go from here?
« Reply #25 on: April 26, 2020, 11:10:09 AM »
Fuck it. been heavily reading all the posts here. Arguing or something of the sort over on my original introduction thread. Fuck all that. Im fucking pissed. Pissed at nicotine. Pissed at my past. Pissed at myself. Everyone is right. Excuses, that's all it fucking is. All it ever was. Im motherfucking sick of being addicted to this shit. And I already dont like the hivemind here, but fuck it, I clearly cant do this shit on my own. And through the midst of all the garbage I dont care for here, I can see the message everyone is trying to get across. 

Something thats always always bugged me, is that "people dont care" about your problems. Something dawned on me earlier that you all have tons and tons of people here taking the time to help people actually quit and stay quit. Maybe this KTC shit willa ctually work for me i dont know. I know for fucking sure that im in one terrible pissed off mood right now. I do not want to go cold turkey, I dont want to fucking quit. I just want to keep chewing and chewing and chewing. But I know thats not really me, thats the nicotine talking. Its like a fucking mindjacking alien. Fuck that alien. 

I know Im gonna fuck up, stumble, and will probably be the weakest counterpart of whatever group Im in. But god dammit Im at my wits end, and I am humbled by my lack of willpower. So im gonna try the KTC way, cuz I dont know what else to do anymore.
1... Stick to your original intro. A mod will fix that for you. Each person only gets one.

2... Pissed off is good. Very good. This garbage drug is stealing your health, your money, your integrity, your personality... everything. Pissed off is very good. You’re the top of the food chain... stop letting yourself be owned by it.

3... No trying. No hoping. Own your decision bro. You’re not any more addicted than I was. I chewed for 25 years and was doing 2 cans a day for a good damn chunk of it. Dude... that’s epic junkie level status right there. How did I do this? I wanted to. Plain and simple. I wanted to quit more than I wanted to chew. I. Fucking. Owned. It. I got involved here... I got phone numbers... I talked to people... I helped people... I raged against the machine...

I worked it.

Your mindset has to change.
There is NO option to stumble. You don’t get to cave and try again. That’s not how it works.

Own. Your. Decision.

Be better than what you’re addicted to.

You can do this.
Ask me how I know.
I was you.

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Already Ive caught myself thinking its ok, we can do this for a few weeks, a few days, etc. Or like its fine, Ill just go buy cigs, its ok cuz its not dip. etc. Fuck that though. I dont want to make any kinds of excuses or alterations or come up with alternatives. Im sitting here telling myself I can do this but I honestly cant in good faith say that a week from now I wont be dipping. Im unable tow rap my mindset around how you are able to guarantee in a year or whatever you wont be dipping. That mentally does not make sense to me, as in I physically cant understand that. 

So instead my goal for today is to go 24 hours without. Tommorrow, I will make the goal, another 24 hours.

ODAAT

One day at a time.

That’s the manageable increment we go with. Today.

Today... you can quit.

@DirtRoad89   I have merged your Intros. Each quitter is allowed 1 so please don’t start another one.

Your addiction and the nicotine is scaring you and causing you to not want to quit. Quitting does suck for a while and then it doesn’t. Quitting isn’t easy. But quitting is the most rewarding thing I might have ever done. Don’t get me wrong, I am still an addict and I still quit one day at a time but the freedom I have is amazing. You will receive accountability and brother/sisterhood from fellow quitters. Check your messages as fellow quitters will be reaching out. I just sent you my digits if you want extra accountability. We can partner in this fight against nicotine and stay quit ODAAT.
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