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Re: Quitting now
« Reply #46 on: November 18, 2014, 12:06:00 AM »
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I am a serial caver. I've quit using online support groups before and I haven't been able to maintain my quit. I stay committed for some time, several months, posting every day and living a healthy lifestyle but then I cave. My caves happen for three reasons:

1. Drifting away from my quit group. I get comfortable and overconfident thinking that I have this addiction beat. But it is never beat. Quitting requires a day after day commitment no matter if you are at 2 days or 200 days. I do know that it gets easier but it is never over. As much as I want to, I can't go back in time and remove the dips that I've taken. Once an addict, always an addict.
2. Alcohol. God dammit alcohol. I've come to accept that if I want to make quitting my top priority, I cannot drink alcohol. I've had my fun with alcohol and I've reached a point in my life where I need to do whatever I can to maintain my quit. I just can't risk my quit by having a few beers.
3. Just posting roll call and expecting to be quit just doesn't work. I need to put in more work, more effort, and sacrifice to make this work. I posted a few days ago day 1 and just left the site without reading stories and posting support for others on here. It doesn't work like that. I need to stay proactive with my quit.

Every day as a dipper, I've told myself that I will quit tomorrow. Such lies and bullshit! Below is a summary of themes that I've gleaned from other quitters and in my own experience.

1. Post roll every day, first thing in the morning.
2. Get involved with the quit group and other groups.
3. No alcohol.
4. Dipping is never an option.
5. There is no such thing as one dip.
6. Any craving for dip is a trick and I can't fall into the trap.
7. Cravings are temporary and things do get better.
8. I will always be an addict.
9. The process of quitting will spill over into other parts of my life, making me a better person.
10. Quitting is simple, it is a decision. It is hard but it is not rocket science.
11. There are a lot of things in life that I can't control. But I can control what I put into my mouth.
12. Failure is not an option, ever.
13. Just quit for today...do not worry about tomorrow.
14. Quit for yourself, I am quitting for myself.
15. Dipping does not make anything better. Dipping and going through withdrawal makes everything worse. Far worse.

I'm sure there are plenty more and I need to read more on the site to get in the quitting zone. I will help you all in your quits and I am here for support and to support others. November 17th is my day 1. I am posting in the February 2015 HOF group. Please stop in and offer support.

Thanks,
Tim
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Drifting away from my quit group. I get comfortable and overconfident thinking that I have this addiction beat. But it is never beat. Quitting requires a day after day commitment no matter if you are at 2 days or 200 days. I do know that it gets easier but it is never over. As much as I want to, I can't go back in time and remove the dips that I've taken. Once an addict, always an addict.
What in the fuck are you talking about? You made it to 200 days? When? Where?
Once an addict, always an addict? Fuck off. Just because you are an addict, doesn't mean you need to cave. Everyone here is an addict. You are a caver.
Don't talk about commitment on day 1. Talk about your shitty previous stoppage.
You bug me bro, mostly because if you had stayed with us, maybe you would have helped my quit. Maybe you would have helped the people in my group that I care about. Instead you chose to be selfish.
Why should we would invest in you?
190 days ago you posted your final day (day 83) in the May Group. You missed Roll 23 out of those 83 days. Most guys in May donÂ’t even remember you being around. You have had 89 posts this year, including those couple on this newest stop of yours. You really need to sack up and not be a little bitch this time. I doubt you will, though. History repeats. Whatever it is you need to do different, do it. I donÂ’t know because IÂ’m a quitter, my history repeats every damn day. Your history cycles, fades and then fails you.
14 you are not special and your lists are not worth shit. You still sound like a pure caver I checked your shit and you hardly ever posted anything other than roll then dropped off... pretty much the same story as every other losing caver. A true quitter said to me today, "I'm too quit too legit." There is so much more quit in that statement than in every sorry ass list you ever made in your life.

So you like to talk about how to quit once every few months after you cave. Try shutting your caving cave hole, if you STFU'd and listened you'd have quit right the first x times.

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Re: Quitting now
« Reply #45 on: November 17, 2014, 09:10:00 PM »
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I am a serial caver. I've quit using online support groups before and I haven't been able to maintain my quit. I stay committed for some time, several months, posting every day and living a healthy lifestyle but then I cave. My caves happen for three reasons:

1. Drifting away from my quit group. I get comfortable and overconfident thinking that I have this addiction beat. But it is never beat. Quitting requires a day after day commitment no matter if you are at 2 days or 200 days. I do know that it gets easier but it is never over. As much as I want to, I can't go back in time and remove the dips that I've taken. Once an addict, always an addict.
2. Alcohol. God dammit alcohol. I've come to accept that if I want to make quitting my top priority, I cannot drink alcohol. I've had my fun with alcohol and I've reached a point in my life where I need to do whatever I can to maintain my quit. I just can't risk my quit by having a few beers.
3. Just posting roll call and expecting to be quit just doesn't work. I need to put in more work, more effort, and sacrifice to make this work. I posted a few days ago day 1 and just left the site without reading stories and posting support for others on here. It doesn't work like that. I need to stay proactive with my quit.

Every day as a dipper, I've told myself that I will quit tomorrow. Such lies and bullshit! Below is a summary of themes that I've gleaned from other quitters and in my own experience.

1. Post roll every day, first thing in the morning.
2. Get involved with the quit group and other groups.
3. No alcohol.
4. Dipping is never an option.
5. There is no such thing as one dip.
6. Any craving for dip is a trick and I can't fall into the trap.
7. Cravings are temporary and things do get better.
8. I will always be an addict.
9. The process of quitting will spill over into other parts of my life, making me a better person.
10. Quitting is simple, it is a decision. It is hard but it is not rocket science.
11. There are a lot of things in life that I can't control. But I can control what I put into my mouth.
12. Failure is not an option, ever.
13. Just quit for today...do not worry about tomorrow.
14. Quit for yourself, I am quitting for myself.
15. Dipping does not make anything better. Dipping and going through withdrawal makes everything worse. Far worse.

I'm sure there are plenty more and I need to read more on the site to get in the quitting zone. I will help you all in your quits and I am here for support and to support others. November 17th is my day 1. I am posting in the February 2015 HOF group. Please stop in and offer support.

Thanks,
Tim
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Drifting away from my quit group. I get comfortable and overconfident thinking that I have this addiction beat. But it is never beat. Quitting requires a day after day commitment no matter if you are at 2 days or 200 days. I do know that it gets easier but it is never over. As much as I want to, I can't go back in time and remove the dips that I've taken. Once an addict, always an addict.
What in the fuck are you talking about? You made it to 200 days? When? Where?
Once an addict, always an addict? Fuck off. Just because you are an addict, doesn't mean you need to cave. Everyone here is an addict. You are a caver.
Don't talk about commitment on day 1. Talk about your shitty previous stoppage.
You bug me bro, mostly because if you had stayed with us, maybe you would have helped my quit. Maybe you would have helped the people in my group that I care about. Instead you chose to be selfish.
Why should we would invest in you?
190 days ago you posted your final day (day 83) in the May Group. You missed Roll 23 out of those 83 days. Most guys in May donÂ’t even remember you being around. You have had 89 posts this year, including those couple on this newest stop of yours. You really need to sack up and not be a little bitch this time. I doubt you will, though. History repeats. Whatever it is you need to do different, do it. I donÂ’t know because IÂ’m a quitter, my history repeats every damn day. Your history cycles, fades and then fails you.
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Re: Quitting now
« Reply #44 on: November 17, 2014, 07:42:00 PM »
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I am a serial caver. I've quit using online support groups before and I haven't been able to maintain my quit. I stay committed for some time, several months, posting every day and living a healthy lifestyle but then I cave. My caves happen for three reasons:

1. Drifting away from my quit group. I get comfortable and overconfident thinking that I have this addiction beat. But it is never beat. Quitting requires a day after day commitment no matter if you are at 2 days or 200 days. I do know that it gets easier but it is never over. As much as I want to, I can't go back in time and remove the dips that I've taken. Once an addict, always an addict.
2. Alcohol. God dammit alcohol. I've come to accept that if I want to make quitting my top priority, I cannot drink alcohol. I've had my fun with alcohol and I've reached a point in my life where I need to do whatever I can to maintain my quit. I just can't risk my quit by having a few beers.
3. Just posting roll call and expecting to be quit just doesn't work. I need to put in more work, more effort, and sacrifice to make this work. I posted a few days ago day 1 and just left the site without reading stories and posting support for others on here. It doesn't work like that. I need to stay proactive with my quit.

Every day as a dipper, I've told myself that I will quit tomorrow. Such lies and bullshit! Below is a summary of themes that I've gleaned from other quitters and in my own experience.

1. Post roll every day, first thing in the morning.
2. Get involved with the quit group and other groups.
3. No alcohol.
4. Dipping is never an option.
5. There is no such thing as one dip.
6. Any craving for dip is a trick and I can't fall into the trap.
7. Cravings are temporary and things do get better.
8. I will always be an addict.
9. The process of quitting will spill over into other parts of my life, making me a better person.
10. Quitting is simple, it is a decision. It is hard but it is not rocket science.
11. There are a lot of things in life that I can't control. But I can control what I put into my mouth.
12. Failure is not an option, ever.
13. Just quit for today...do not worry about tomorrow.
14. Quit for yourself, I am quitting for myself.
15. Dipping does not make anything better. Dipping and going through withdrawal makes everything worse. Far worse.

I'm sure there are plenty more and I need to read more on the site to get in the quitting zone. I will help you all in your quits and I am here for support and to support others. November 17th is my day 1. I am posting in the February 2015 HOF group. Please stop in and offer support.

Thanks,
Tim
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Drifting away from my quit group. I get comfortable and overconfident thinking that I have this addiction beat. But it is never beat. Quitting requires a day after day commitment no matter if you are at 2 days or 200 days. I do know that it gets easier but it is never over. As much as I want to, I can't go back in time and remove the dips that I've taken. Once an addict, always an addict.
What in the fuck are you talking about? You made it to 200 days? When? Where?
Once an addict, always an addict? Fuck off. Just because you are an addict, doesn't mean you need to cave. Everyone here is an addict. You are a caver.
Don't talk about commitment on day 1. Talk about your shitty previous stoppage.
You bug me bro, mostly because if you had stayed with us, maybe you would have helped my quit. Maybe you would have helped the people in my group that I care about. Instead you chose to be selfish.
Why should we would invest in you?

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Re: Quitting now
« Reply #43 on: November 17, 2014, 03:51:00 PM »
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Nice feature that it puts my latest "introduction" with my previous intro from back in February. Imagine how much better off I would be if I would have kept with my quit from back in February. So much money and time wasted on dipping.
That's not a feature.

That's me.

And, yes...you would have kept with your quit had you stayed with me and the rest of the badasses on this site. The magic of the KTC is not a piece of software (thank God as I've had it up to here with software today). The magic of this place is the people here.

You're good at talking the talk upon return. You ain't so good at walking the walk though. What happened, why did you fail us twice, and what are you going to do differently this time? Most importantly, do you want to be quit?
In the end I Surrender, I and I alone accept that I have and always will have a Nicotene ADDICTION. It is my choice to quit, but I can't do it alone. I get to go down this path one time, I want to do it right. I recognize that my word, my integrety to you is on the line and is only as good as my actions. Caving is not an option in this plan-Eafman 7/11

I am not cured. I will quit one day at a time. I will continue to do what works. Posting roll everyday. To do otherwise would be foolish on my part. You can do this-Ready 12/11

To overcome your addiction you must comprehend what it means to fail-Razd 3/12

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Just as a building starts with architectural drawings. Your daily quit begins with a promise.-Scowick 2/13

Here and now, focused on today, minute by minute, whatever it takes, I promise to all my bros and myself not to become a negative stat and stay quit!-krok 1/15

I want everyone to be quit. Even the assholes.-Probe1957 1/18

Ignoring history or erasing history fixes nothing and leads you inevitably down the same path.-69franx 04/30/2021

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Re: Quitting now
« Reply #42 on: November 17, 2014, 03:50:00 PM »
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I am a serial caver. I've quit using online support groups before and I haven't been able to maintain my quit. I stay committed for some time, several months, posting every day and living a healthy lifestyle but then I cave. My caves happen for three reasons:

1. Drifting away from my quit group. I get comfortable and overconfident thinking that I have this addiction beat. But it is never beat. Quitting requires a day after day commitment no matter if you are at 2 days or 200 days. I do know that it gets easier but it is never over. As much as I want to, I can't go back in time and remove the dips that I've taken. Once an addict, always an addict.
2. Alcohol. God dammit alcohol. I've come to accept that if I want to make quitting my top priority, I cannot drink alcohol. I've had my fun with alcohol and I've reached a point in my life where I need to do whatever I can to maintain my quit. I just can't risk my quit by having a few beers.
3. Just posting roll call and expecting to be quit just doesn't work. I need to put in more work, more effort, and sacrifice to make this work. I posted a few days ago day 1 and just left the site without reading stories and posting support for others on here. It doesn't work like that. I need to stay proactive with my quit.

Every day as a dipper, I've told myself that I will quit tomorrow. Such lies and bullshit! Below is a summary of themes that I've gleaned from other quitters and in my own experience.

1. Post roll every day, first thing in the morning.
2. Get involved with the quit group and other groups.
3. No alcohol.
4. Dipping is never an option.
5. There is no such thing as one dip.
6. Any craving for dip is a trick and I can't fall into the trap.
7. Cravings are temporary and things do get better.
8. I will always be an addict.
9. The process of quitting will spill over into other parts of my life, making me a better person.
10. Quitting is simple, it is a decision. It is hard but it is not rocket science.
11. There are a lot of things in life that I can't control. But I can control what I put into my mouth.
12. Failure is not an option, ever.
13. Just quit for today...do not worry about tomorrow.
14. Quit for yourself, I am quitting for myself.
15. Dipping does not make anything better. Dipping and going through withdrawal makes everything worse. Far worse.

I'm sure there are plenty more and I need to read more on the site to get in the quitting zone. I will help you all in your quits and I am here for support and to support others. November 17th is my day 1. I am posting in the February 2015 HOF group. Please stop in and offer support.

Thanks,
Tim
Plenty of truisms on that list. Plenty more could be added. For example, "Serial cavers don't get it and KTC is not their pathway to success" comes to mind.

So, as someone who fits that bill by his own admission, what exactly is it that makes you think your third go around here on KTC will be any different from your first two? You know what it's like to get within spitting distance of the HoF and that the nic bitch still aggressively tries to coddle your balls at that point and for a long, long time after. So, what is it about this time that won't allow you to fall for her charms?

Finally, quitting isn't a "zone" that you get into or out of. You simply are either quit, or you aren't quit. I think that might be part of your problem.

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Re: Quitting now
« Reply #41 on: November 17, 2014, 02:35:00 PM »
Nice feature that it puts my latest "introduction" with my previous intro from back in February. Imagine how much better off I would be if I would have kept with my quit from back in February. So much money and time wasted on dipping.

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Re: Quitting now
« Reply #40 on: November 17, 2014, 01:49:00 PM »
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In the end I Surrender, I and I alone accept that I have and always will have a Nicotene ADDICTION. It is my choice to quit, but I can't do it alone. I get to go down this path one time, I want to do it right. I recognize that my word, my integrety to you is on the line and is only as good as my actions. Caving is not an option in this plan-Eafman 7/11

I am not cured. I will quit one day at a time. I will continue to do what works. Posting roll everyday. To do otherwise would be foolish on my part. You can do this-Ready 12/11

To overcome your addiction you must comprehend what it means to fail-Razd 3/12

Theres a lot of people that come here, especially vets, that WANT to be reminded that they are addicts.-Tarpon 6/12

Just as a building starts with architectural drawings. Your daily quit begins with a promise.-Scowick 2/13

Here and now, focused on today, minute by minute, whatever it takes, I promise to all my bros and myself not to become a negative stat and stay quit!-krok 1/15

I want everyone to be quit. Even the assholes.-Probe1957 1/18

Ignoring history or erasing history fixes nothing and leads you inevitably down the same path.-69franx 04/30/2021

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Re: Quitting now
« Reply #39 on: November 17, 2014, 02:05:00 AM »
I am a serial caver. I've quit using online support groups before and I haven't been able to maintain my quit. I stay committed for some time, several months, posting every day and living a healthy lifestyle but then I cave. My caves happen for three reasons:

1. Drifting away from my quit group. I get comfortable and overconfident thinking that I have this addiction beat. But it is never beat. Quitting requires a day after day commitment no matter if you are at 2 days or 200 days. I do know that it gets easier but it is never over. As much as I want to, I can't go back in time and remove the dips that I've taken. Once an addict, always an addict.
2. Alcohol. God dammit alcohol. I've come to accept that if I want to make quitting my top priority, I cannot drink alcohol. I've had my fun with alcohol and I've reached a point in my life where I need to do whatever I can to maintain my quit. I just can't risk my quit by having a few beers.
3. Just posting roll call and expecting to be quit just doesn't work. I need to put in more work, more effort, and sacrifice to make this work. I posted a few days ago day 1 and just left the site without reading stories and posting support for others on here. It doesn't work like that. I need to stay proactive with my quit.

Every day as a dipper, I've told myself that I will quit tomorrow. Such lies and bullshit! Below is a summary of themes that I've gleaned from other quitters and in my own experience.

1. Post roll every day, first thing in the morning.
2. Get involved with the quit group and other groups.
3. No alcohol.
4. Dipping is never an option.
5. There is no such thing as one dip.
6. Any craving for dip is a trick and I can't fall into the trap.
7. Cravings are temporary and things do get better.
8. I will always be an addict.
9. The process of quitting will spill over into other parts of my life, making me a better person.
10. Quitting is simple, it is a decision. It is hard but it is not rocket science.
11. There are a lot of things in life that I can't control. But I can control what I put into my mouth.
12. Failure is not an option, ever.
13. Just quit for today...do not worry about tomorrow.
14. Quit for yourself, I am quitting for myself.
15. Dipping does not make anything better. Dipping and going through withdrawal makes everything worse. Far worse.

I'm sure there are plenty more and I need to read more on the site to get in the quitting zone. I will help you all in your quits and I am here for support and to support others. November 17th is my day 1. I am posting in the February 2015 HOF group. Please stop in and offer support.

Thanks,
Tim

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Re: Quitting now
« Reply #38 on: February 20, 2014, 12:42:00 PM »
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You should post this in your group. Couple things:

#9, Don't bite off more than you can chew. Ambition is great, but bearing too heavy a load will cause even a great man to stumble.

The overall tone seems like you just ripped shit from people's posts.  Which is fine, lots of great quitters have come before you, but it lacks both cohesion and a personal touch.

PS, I would absolutely love for you to prove me wrong on any or all of these posts.  Fake it until you make it.
You are right about biting off more than I can chew. It is important to take it one crave at a time and having the awareness that quitting dip is my top priority. If I can accomplish other things during the day, great! But if not, no need to get stressed. I can tackle other challenges as my confidence builds.

Isn't ripping "shit from other people's posts" what this support group is all about? People who have quit share what they have experienced and it is up to us to apply that knowledge to our quits. It does lack cohesion and personal touch but I don't want to bite off more than I can chew. :rolleyes: These ideas will be a starting point for my HOF speech.

What do you mean by "fake it until you make it?"
Specifically that was in reference to you building a strong quit. When you start you're a newborn fawn and lots of things have the potential to knock you down, but it's up to you to build it to the point where it would be almost be impossible to knock you over. But between Bambi and Bambi-dozer there are a lot moments of uncertainty. When you're alone in the dark with a tin, ultimately the decision is yours.

tl;dr- Your quit is weak now. If you continue on your current track and work on it everyday it will become strong. In the meantime fake being strong until it's a reality.

This is not to say you shouldn't avail yourself of the resources available here. You definitely should, but what stopped you last time?
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Re: Quitting now
« Reply #37 on: February 19, 2014, 11:13:00 PM »
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You should post this in your group. Couple things:

#9, Don't bite off more than you can chew. Ambition is great, but bearing too heavy a load will cause even a great man to stumble.

The overall tone seems like you just ripped shit from people's posts.  Which is fine, lots of great quitters have come before you, but it lacks both cohesion and a personal touch.

PS, I would absolutely love for you to prove me wrong on any or all of these posts.  Fake it until you make it.
You are right about biting off more than I can chew. It is important to take it one crave at a time and having the awareness that quitting dip is my top priority. If I can accomplish other things during the day, great! But if not, no need to get stressed. I can tackle other challenges as my confidence builds.

Isn't ripping "shit from other people's posts" what this support group is all about? People who have quit share what they have experienced and it is up to us to apply that knowledge to our quits. It does lack cohesion and personal touch but I don't want to bite off more than I can chew. :rolleyes: These ideas will be a starting point for my HOF speech.

What do you mean by "fake it until you make it?"

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Re: Quitting now
« Reply #36 on: February 19, 2014, 06:19:00 PM »
You should post this in your group. Couple things:

#9, Don't bite off more than you can chew. Ambition is great, but bearing too heavy a load will cause even a great man to stumble.

The overall tone seems like you just ripped shit from people's posts. Which is fine, lots of great quitters have come before you, but it lacks both cohesion and a personal touch.

PS, I would absolutely love for you to prove me wrong on any or all of these posts. Fake it until you make it.
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Re: Quitting now
« Reply #35 on: February 19, 2014, 02:03:00 PM »
Well I am sad to see a cave but damn. I love the way you approached the answers.

Why did it happen...."I didn't Quit"

I see a ton of ownership and self evaluation. I really like that you can't control your addiction but you can control your choices.

No rage, no excuses. You acknowledge the problem, learned from it and taught me a few things in your responses.

I quit with you today. You are ready and can do this. We only need to be quit today. When tomorrow becomes today we repeat. That is the treatment for this addiction to keep your wits to chose wisely.

You just declared your freedom. Now its showtime! Take the pain and embrace it. The more it hurts and you win, the easier the next battle becomes.

Fignt and chose right.
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Re: Quitting now
« Reply #34 on: February 19, 2014, 01:43:00 PM »
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Hi everyone,

I am just seeing the responses now. When I first posted day 1, I didn't put in the preparation to quit. I just thought I could post day 1 and go on but it took a lot more than that. I had to use the great information on this site and read the HOF speeches. To answer the questions:
1. What happened? I didn't quit. I didn't believe in myself and I didn't put in any effort to quit.
2. Why did it happen? All I did was post roll call and I didn't put in the extra work to learn about the addiction and what it takes to overcome it.
3. What are you going to do different this time? After doing a lot of researching through HOF speeches and through other posts on ktc, here are 23 principles/themes/strategies/important shit to remember as a quitter: In short, I am making quitting my top priority. Nothing is more important than staying quit.

1.   Dipping is not an option. Do something else. Drink water, read HOF speeches, go for a walk, eat some celery.
2.   Dipping will not make anything better. Dipping will make everything worse. Problems arenÂ’t solved by dipping. Situations arenÂ’t improved by dipping. I do not become a better person by dipping.
3.   Dipping makes me sick and lazy. Waking up with headaches, sore body, sore gums/mouth, and sweats.  Blood is not flowing through my body.
4.   Dipping takes away my time. I waste time thinking about dipping, getting dip, dipping, spitting out dip, cleaning up spitters, and hiding dip from the world.
5.   Any craves for dipping are not me talking, they are my addiction. I will slam the door shut on that voice.
6.   All craves will pass but caves last forever. Cravings are temporary and they will become smaller and easier to shut down.
7.   I will wake up tomorrow being happy that I didnÂ’t dip. Today is a great day to quit dip!
8.   I canÂ’t have just one dip. My addiction will be reignited and I canÂ’t afford to dip ever again.
9.   I canÂ’t drink, watch porn, drink caffeine or eat large unhealthy meals because they all lead to my cycle of dipping like maniac.
10.   Dipping leads to stained teeth, bad breath, stress, and spilled spitters.
11.   Dipping is expensive. I should be saving that money or spending it on my debts.
12.   Dipping will kill me in a nasty way.
13.   Take the quit one crave at a time. Embrace the craves. Each crave that is overcome, I am stronger and my brain is rewiring itself.
14.   Days will start piling up and it will become easier each day.
15.   Start each day by posting roll call and become active on the site.
16.   Dipping puts me in a constant state of withdrawal. The only thing dipping does is to keep me addicted to tobacco.
17.   IÂ’ve dumped out countless cans and told myself that I will quit tomorrow. IÂ’ve been doing this for the past year and tomorrow has never come. I could be years quit by now!
18.   I do not have control over my addiction but I do have control over my CHOICES.
19.   I am quitting for myself and I believe in myself. IÂ’ve done it before and I can do it again.
20.   The best time to quit is now. There is no better time to quit. Work will be stressful, vacations will be coming up, the weather will change, the 1st of the month will come and go. Now is all that matters.
21.   By continuing to dip, IÂ’ve lived a lie and I keep lieing to myself about quitting. Honesty is an important part of my character and I canÂ’t live with integrity or look at myself in the mirror when I continue to dip.
22.   My brain will try to give me reasons I shouldnÂ’t quit. DO NOT LISTEN! IT is all bullshit.
23.   When I dip, I only keep it in for no more than 20 minutes and I spit it out and tell myself I will quit. I am tired of all of this nonsense. I am smarter, stronger and better than this.
Letsgo,
You're reason #18 is profound. I will carry that one with me, thanks for sharing.
PROUD to be quit with you and thrilled to have you remain in May!
(if I find out you copy/pasted that I will hunt you down and feed you to Sapper :)
A few of the ideas I took from HOF speeches but I reworded most of them and made them my own. I wrote this last night.
bump, a few folks will be looking for this tomorrow. Well done, in my eyes.
#24. Establish a support network by getting phone numbers of fellow quitters and contacting them and asking permission to cave.
#25. Print and carry 'The Contract'.
#26. One Day At A Time
#27 Never Again, For Any Reason.
You're on the right path, my friend, stay on it.
bump, sorry, Emulator.
bump, folks are going to want to see this tomorrow morning.
I wanted to see this tonight. You are putting in the time, but please hone your skills daily and be preemptive. Outthink yourself. Dont give yourself any chance with nicotine and immediately send out texts for accountability. "Hey, dude...I just found old can of pouches/snuff/dip. Just letting you know. Feel free to text back anytime to hold me accountable." That reach out would have probably been the difference between Day 1 and +1. PM me if you want my digits for accountability. Im not here to judge you as strong or weak. I am here to help you in any way that I can. I wont think: dang...dude found pouches and gonna cave - how weak. No way! I think how smart and Im not going to let him down and will help my brother limp to the next safety zone, if need be. We can be here for you (and are) but we cant quit for you. We cant reach out for you. You're gonna do this!!
Good follow-through, Letsgo. Clearly put some thought into this, and took advantage of the various resources of the site. Well done. Stay focused and re-read your list as the need arises. Better yet, reach out to your Mayhem brothers so you don't have to fight the craves / potential caves by yourself. We're here for you, welcome back to Mayhem.
You should post this in May if you have not done so.
So about #9.....I'm curious.....whose HOF speech did you glean that from?

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Re: Quitting now
« Reply #33 on: February 19, 2014, 01:04:00 PM »
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Hi everyone,

I am just seeing the responses now. When I first posted day 1, I didn't put in the preparation to quit. I just thought I could post day 1 and go on but it took a lot more than that. I had to use the great information on this site and read the HOF speeches. To answer the questions:
1. What happened? I didn't quit. I didn't believe in myself and I didn't put in any effort to quit.
2. Why did it happen? All I did was post roll call and I didn't put in the extra work to learn about the addiction and what it takes to overcome it.
3. What are you going to do different this time? After doing a lot of researching through HOF speeches and through other posts on ktc, here are 23 principles/themes/strategies/important shit to remember as a quitter: In short, I am making quitting my top priority. Nothing is more important than staying quit.

1.   Dipping is not an option. Do something else. Drink water, read HOF speeches, go for a walk, eat some celery.
2.   Dipping will not make anything better. Dipping will make everything worse. Problems arenÂ’t solved by dipping. Situations arenÂ’t improved by dipping. I do not become a better person by dipping.
3.   Dipping makes me sick and lazy. Waking up with headaches, sore body, sore gums/mouth, and sweats.  Blood is not flowing through my body.
4.   Dipping takes away my time. I waste time thinking about dipping, getting dip, dipping, spitting out dip, cleaning up spitters, and hiding dip from the world.
5.   Any craves for dipping are not me talking, they are my addiction. I will slam the door shut on that voice.
6.   All craves will pass but caves last forever. Cravings are temporary and they will become smaller and easier to shut down.
7.   I will wake up tomorrow being happy that I didnÂ’t dip. Today is a great day to quit dip!
8.   I canÂ’t have just one dip. My addiction will be reignited and I canÂ’t afford to dip ever again.
9.   I canÂ’t drink, watch porn, drink caffeine or eat large unhealthy meals because they all lead to my cycle of dipping like maniac.
10.   Dipping leads to stained teeth, bad breath, stress, and spilled spitters.
11.   Dipping is expensive. I should be saving that money or spending it on my debts.
12.   Dipping will kill me in a nasty way.
13.   Take the quit one crave at a time. Embrace the craves. Each crave that is overcome, I am stronger and my brain is rewiring itself.
14.   Days will start piling up and it will become easier each day.
15.   Start each day by posting roll call and become active on the site.
16.   Dipping puts me in a constant state of withdrawal. The only thing dipping does is to keep me addicted to tobacco.
17.   IÂ’ve dumped out countless cans and told myself that I will quit tomorrow. IÂ’ve been doing this for the past year and tomorrow has never come. I could be years quit by now!
18.   I do not have control over my addiction but I do have control over my CHOICES.
19.   I am quitting for myself and I believe in myself. IÂ’ve done it before and I can do it again.
20.   The best time to quit is now. There is no better time to quit. Work will be stressful, vacations will be coming up, the weather will change, the 1st of the month will come and go. Now is all that matters.
21.   By continuing to dip, IÂ’ve lived a lie and I keep lieing to myself about quitting. Honesty is an important part of my character and I canÂ’t live with integrity or look at myself in the mirror when I continue to dip.
22.   My brain will try to give me reasons I shouldnÂ’t quit. DO NOT LISTEN! IT is all bullshit.
23.   When I dip, I only keep it in for no more than 20 minutes and I spit it out and tell myself I will quit. I am tired of all of this nonsense. I am smarter, stronger and better than this.
Letsgo,
You're reason #18 is profound. I will carry that one with me, thanks for sharing.
PROUD to be quit with you and thrilled to have you remain in May!
(if I find out you copy/pasted that I will hunt you down and feed you to Sapper :)
A few of the ideas I took from HOF speeches but I reworded most of them and made them my own. I wrote this last night.
bump, a few folks will be looking for this tomorrow. Well done, in my eyes.
#24. Establish a support network by getting phone numbers of fellow quitters and contacting them and asking permission to cave.
#25. Print and carry 'The Contract'.
#26. One Day At A Time
#27 Never Again, For Any Reason.
You're on the right path, my friend, stay on it.
bump, sorry, Emulator.
bump, folks are going to want to see this tomorrow morning.
I wanted to see this tonight. You are putting in the time, but please hone your skills daily and be preemptive. Outthink yourself. Dont give yourself any chance with nicotine and immediately send out texts for accountability. "Hey, dude...I just found old can of pouches/snuff/dip. Just letting you know. Feel free to text back anytime to hold me accountable." That reach out would have probably been the difference between Day 1 and +1. PM me if you want my digits for accountability. Im not here to judge you as strong or weak. I am here to help you in any way that I can. I wont think: dang...dude found pouches and gonna cave - how weak. No way! I think how smart and Im not going to let him down and will help my brother limp to the next safety zone, if need be. We can be here for you (and are) but we cant quit for you. We cant reach out for you. You're gonna do this!!
Good follow-through, Letsgo. Clearly put some thought into this, and took advantage of the various resources of the site. Well done. Stay focused and re-read your list as the need arises. Better yet, reach out to your Mayhem brothers so you don't have to fight the craves / potential caves by yourself. We're here for you, welcome back to Mayhem.
You should post this in May if you have not done so.
I have control over my quit. There's no luck involved. - Diesel2112


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Re: Quitting now
« Reply #32 on: February 19, 2014, 09:46:00 AM »
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7. I woke up today and and am happy I didn't dip!
You took your licks, Now im curious to see what your going to put in to your quit. 10% 50% 100%?? Always remember that what you put in to it, is what youll get out of it. Take it one day at a time and in my opinion, the only way to stay quit is to be involved with your quit. posting roll is the bare minimum, im all up in this site, if people havent seen me some where, its likely they are not on as much :). But like i said, i know for my quit i have to be up this sites ass for a while. Weather they like it or not. Stay quit bro, after all.......it is life or death.

Winter Green
You are saying a lot of the right things... now it is time to walk the walk.

I know you can do it. You know what needs to be done. Quit today!
Quit date: 6/23/2013
HOF Date: 9/30/2013

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