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Re: General Discussion - 2013
« Reply #618 on: August 18, 2013, 10:23:00 PM »
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hey guys i just passed 2 year mark of dipping (I am in no way proud of that). I've tried to quit plenty of times ,but i fall back into it. I am military and currentley not in the states. I'm always bored here and dippin seems like the only thing to do. We have a class where you can get the pills,gum,patch etc. I dont wanna go that route what so ever. I have tried gum,seeds,mints. That will work for a day or so then i just stroll to the b and grab a can. I nee help please anyone who has been in this situation help !!! Also when i would go a day without it I really on edge and very easly irritated.
You sound at least a little intellegent as you are looking to quit after only 2 years of use and not after 10, 16 (my case), 20, 30+ years like most of us.

Now, you need to acknowledge that your stopping in the past and every decision to put that stuff in your yapper is all by choice. No one forced you. Don't blame being in the military, being surrounded by it, boring days overseas etc. on your use. You either accept that you are an addict to nicotine and decide to quit and fight like hell to remain quit, or you choose to continue to be a slave to the can. Both are your choices. Oh, there are many guys here that are active military, in the US and overseas, that post roll everyday and even get involved in Live Chat. Sorry, that isn't a valid excuse or justification to use.

Post Roll: Why? How?

Every day you log into your “Group”, a bunch of guys all quitting together and going through the same suck, fog, cravings, etc. You “Post Roll”; add your name and the number of days quit that you are. This is your promise, a pledge to your quit brothers and sisters, to yourself, and to everyone else here on KTC to not use nicotine in any way, shape, or form, for the next 24 hours. Keep your promise. A man is nothing if his word is no good.

Get Involved:
Read: Introductions and HOF Speeches. Read the banter in other groups. Read the non-dip discussions in the Wilcard section when you want to get away from thoughts of dip. By doing this you will realize that you are not alone in the feeling you are having. You will gain strength through others. And, you will get to know these people on a personal level, which adds accountability.

Send out a few PMs:
Send out a PM to someone in your group, or to someone that posted something that you related to. Offer your phone number. I bet you will get a phone number in return. Store those numbers in your phone and USE THEM in a moment of weakness. Sending a text out has prevented me from caving more than a few times. Sometimes I didn’t even need a response, just taking a few seconds to text was all it took to get me thinking straight again. Other times the response I got was, “you do NOT have permission to cave”, which I took to heart.

Every tool you need to QUIT and remain QUIT is here, for free, but you have to want it. No one can quit for you, but we can offer support whenever you need it.

So, think about if you really want to quit and if you want to quit for you. If they answer is yes, read the links I posted and then head over to Pre HOF November 2013 and post your promise to remain clean today.

Wecome to the madness.
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Re: General Discussion - 2013
« Reply #617 on: August 18, 2013, 10:22:00 PM »
Quote from: hunter34
hey guys i just passed 2 year mark of dipping (I am in no way proud of that). I've tried to quit plenty of times ,but i fall back into it. I am military and currentley not in the states. I'm always bored here and dippin seems like the only thing to do. We have a class where you can get the pills,gum,patch etc. I dont wanna go that route what so ever. I have tried gum,seeds,mints. That will work for a day or so then i just stroll to the b and grab a can. I nee help please anyone who has been in this situation help !!! Also when i would go a day without it I really on edge and very easly irritated.
We've all been in this situation. Doesn't matter if I your mommas basement or Timbuktu. Addiction is addiction and quittin is quittin.

The reason you can't quit is because you're an addict, and your not trying hard enough.

You're bored and dipping is the only thing to do? What's more boring than sucking on a lip full of poisonous catshit and spitting it into a bottle? Real EXCITING! That's just one of the many lies your addicted brain tell you...that dipping cures boredome. I dipped for 15 years and can honestly say dipping was one of the most boring things I've ever done. Personally I'd rather jack off or play candy crush.

Around here we quit by posting a promise to ourselves and the rest of the brothers and sisters here that we will not use nicotine in any form for today. We don't wallow in the past and we don't think about tomorrow. We simply quit one day at a time.

Is it easy? Fuck no.

Is it worth it? Fuck yes.

Just scroll down and look what this Loot chracter wrote. Guts been quit for 3,000 fucking days, guys a maniac of quit, but does it one day at a time. How did he get there? He started at day one.

That's what you need to do. Go to the Welcome center at the top left of the page and read up on how to get into a quit group and how to post roll. Then, dump all your chew into the toilet, flush it, wave it bye bye and post your promise with the #1 beside it.

You also may want to start an intro page in the intro section. This is a place where you can not only chronicle your quit, but come to ask questions, rage, rant, cry, tell people to eat shit, etc...

But you have to start at day one, like we all did. Yes, you will get irritated and edgy at first, like we all did. But with some balls, some accountability, and the help of the brothers and sisters on this site, you can quit...like we all are.

Do it.
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Re: General Discussion - 2013
« Reply #616 on: August 18, 2013, 07:41:00 PM »
hey guys i just passed 2 year mark of dipping (I am in no way proud of that). I've tried to quit plenty of times ,but i fall back into it. I am military and currentley not in the states. I'm always bored here and dippin seems like the only thing to do. We have a class where you can get the pills,gum,patch etc. I dont wanna go that route what so ever. I have tried gum,seeds,mints. That will work for a day or so then i just stroll to the b and grab a can. I nee help please anyone who has been in this situation help !!! Also when i would go a day without it I really on edge and very easly irritated.

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Re: General Discussion - 2013
« Reply #615 on: August 18, 2013, 07:12:00 PM »
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Today makes 3,000. It is possible. We all have to start at Day 1. We all have to go through the same bullshit. Stop lurking, join up, hit Roll Call everyday, make some friends, and get it done. Before it's too late. You have hundreds of living, breathing examples on this site. Examples that want you clean more than you do and are willing to help you navigate the waters. Turn hour back on it and you are a fool.

You are here for a reason. You came here on purpose. It's time bro.. it's time for action. No more lurking.

LOOT - Day 3,000 and loving life.
Didn't post with you because I never have but... you are the man L00T, seriously you are, thanks for being around here keeping us freaks sane!

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Re: General Discussion - 2013
« Reply #614 on: August 18, 2013, 04:59:00 PM »
Today makes 3,000. It is possible. We all have to start at Day 1. We all have to go through the same bullshit. Stop lurking, join up, hit Roll Call everyday, make some friends, and get it done. Before it's too late. You have hundreds of living, breathing examples on this site. Examples that want you clean more than you do and are willing to help you navigate the waters. Turn hour back on it and you are a fool.

You are here for a reason. You came here on purpose. It's time bro.. it's time for action. No more lurking.

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Re: General Discussion - 2013
« Reply #613 on: August 17, 2013, 09:45:00 AM »
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I just quit for good. Man I am ready to embrace the suck!
Don't worry about "for good". Just worry about being quit TODAY!
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Re: General Discussion - 2013
« Reply #612 on: August 17, 2013, 01:58:00 AM »
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Is 2 pinches a day considered a bad addiction
Is one hit of cocaine a week bad? How about a joint "only in the mornings?"

Is just a little bit of cancer ok?
Do you want to be quit?
Two pinches a day is two pinches too many. And "normal" people don't chew at all.
With an addict one is too many and 1,000 is never enough.

Obviously this is getting to you if you are here. Why do you feel it necessary to have ANY pinches during the day? Because your an addict that's why.

Hit the welcome center and start posting role if your serious and let us help you kiill the can.

With Diesel in your name your ass better not be trolling around hyming and hawing about quitting. Diesels quit.

Live up to your name!!!
Four years ago, a doctor lopped off 2/3 of my cousins tongue to remove a dime sized piece of death and slit his throat from ear to ear and removed all his lymph nodes. He now has a piece of muscle that used to be in his forearm sewed to his tongue.

Was he a heavy dipper? No. He smoked a couple of the plastic tipped cigars a week.

So.....is that too many? Was it caused by that?

I don't know, nobody does. I choose to risk it no longer.

What will you do?
Fuckin' A, Dieslboy, please tell us what a GOOD addiction looks like! If you're an addict, you're an addict!!

I haven't had nicotine in my body in 4 years...and I'm a fucking ADDICT!

Get your head on straight and stop being a pussy, trying to justify using poison. Everyone on here is an addict. Junkies. ALL of us. Men and women, teens and senior citizens, CEO's, grocery baggers and bums. None of us is "special". Not me. Not you. Nobody.

My mom thinks I'm special. My Quit Brothers think I'm an addict. And in here, they're the ones whose opinion counts.

Go post roll, then stay free of nicotine today. Tomorrow do the same thing. And the next day. And the next.

And live.
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Re: General Discussion - 2013
« Reply #611 on: August 17, 2013, 01:43:00 AM »
Quote from: oifvet35
I just quit for good. Man I am ready to embrace the suck!
Well gird your loins, Vet! It's going to be a battle, but you've got the right idea...the suck is the only path to freedom. Welcome!
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Re: General Discussion - 2013
« Reply #610 on: August 16, 2013, 04:47:00 PM »
I just quit for good. Man I am ready to embrace the suck!

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Re: General Discussion - 2013
« Reply #609 on: August 16, 2013, 02:01:00 PM »
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"Every man dies... not every man really lives." - William Wallace

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Re: General Discussion - 2013
« Reply #608 on: August 15, 2013, 06:13:00 PM »
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Quote from: Dieselboy91
Yes I do want to be quit before my addiction turns into a can a day the longer a person waits it can only get worse
What are you waiting for?

Tell yourself that you are quit. Be quit. Tell us that you are quit.

It's one of the most sobering experiences you can do.

You'll be surprised how bad that 2 pinch a day "habit" will make you feel these first days. That's because you are physically addicted to nicotine. Your body needs to break that dependency to heal, and it can't until you stop putting the drug into your system.

Take it one moment...one minte...one hour...one day at a time.

You can do this. If you want to be quit, then be it.
I agree. Stop talking about it and start quitting.

No better time than the present!!

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Re: General Discussion - 2013
« Reply #607 on: August 15, 2013, 01:17:00 PM »
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Yes I do want to be quit before my addiction turns into a can a day the longer a person waits it can only get worse
What are you waiting for?

Tell yourself that you are quit. Be quit. Tell us that you are quit.

It's one of the most sobering experiences you can do.

You'll be surprised how bad that 2 pinch a day "habit" will make you feel these first days. That's because you are physically addicted to nicotine. Your body needs to break that dependency to heal, and it can't until you stop putting the drug into your system.

Take it one moment...one minte...one hour...one day at a time.

You can do this. If you want to be quit, then be it.
In the end I Surrender, I and I alone accept that I have and always will have a Nicotene ADDICTION. It is my choice to quit, but I can't do it alone. I get to go down this path one time, I want to do it right. I recognize that my word, my integrety to you is on the line and is only as good as my actions. Caving is not an option in this plan-Eafman 7/11

I am not cured. I will quit one day at a time. I will continue to do what works. Posting roll everyday. To do otherwise would be foolish on my part. You can do this-Ready 12/11

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Re: General Discussion - 2013
« Reply #606 on: August 15, 2013, 12:15:00 PM »
Yes I do want to be quit before my addiction turns into a can a day the longer a person waits it can only get worse

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Re: General Discussion - 2013
« Reply #605 on: August 15, 2013, 11:57:00 AM »
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: redyota
Quote from: Dieselboy91
Is 2 pinches a day considered a bad addiction
Is one hit of cocaine a week bad? How about a joint "only in the mornings?"

Is just a little bit of cancer ok?
Do you want to be quit?
Two pinches a day is two pinches too many. And "normal" people don't chew at all.
With an addict one is too many and 1,000 is never enough.

Obviously this is getting to you if you are here. Why do you feel it necessary to have ANY pinches during the day? Because your an addict that's why.

Hit the welcome center and start posting role if your serious and let us help you kiill the can.

With Diesel in your name your ass better not be trolling around hyming and hawing about quitting. Diesels quit.

Live up to your name!!!
Four years ago, a doctor lopped off 2/3 of my cousins tongue to remove a dime sized piece of death and slit his throat from ear to ear and removed all his lymph nodes. He now has a piece of muscle that used to be in his forearm sewed to his tongue.

Was he a heavy dipper? No. He smoked a couple of the plastic tipped cigars a week.

So.....is that too many? Was it caused by that?

I don't know, nobody does. I choose to risk it no longer.

What will you do?

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Re: General Discussion - 2013
« Reply #604 on: August 15, 2013, 12:30:00 AM »
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Quote from: redyota
Quote from: Dieselboy91
Is 2 pinches a day considered a bad addiction
Is one hit of cocaine a week bad? How about a joint "only in the mornings?"

Is just a little bit of cancer ok?
Do you want to be quit?
Two pinches a day is two pinches too many. And "normal" people don't chew at all.
With an addict one is too many and 1,000 is never enough.

Obviously this is getting to you if you are here. Why do you feel it necessary to have ANY pinches during the day? Because your an addict that's why.

Hit the welcome center and start posting role if your serious and let us help you kiill the can.

With Diesel in your name your ass better not be trolling around hyming and hawing about quitting. Diesels quit.

Live up to your name!!!
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8th floor 08/12/14
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Comma 02/28/15
11th floor 06/08/15
12th floor 09/16/15
13th floor 12/25/15
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