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Re: General Discussion - 2013
« Reply #558 on: August 03, 2013, 05:24:00 PM »
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I really like Smokey Mountain Pouches.  The menthol in the wintergreen and peppermint, along with the cayenne pepper have a nice "cool" burn.  They help me with the oral fixation, and for a bonus there is not mess.  Smokey Mountain is amazing because they will send you samples for free as long as you pay for shipping.  That company literally helped save my life.
Has anyone ever added cayenne to SM? I could use a burn right now.
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Re: General Discussion - 2013
« Reply #557 on: August 03, 2013, 04:22:00 PM »
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I really like Smokey Mountain Pouches.  The menthol in the wintergreen and peppermint, along with the cayenne pepper have a nice "cool" burn.  They help me with the oral fixation, and for a bonus there is not mess.  Smokey Mountain is amazing because they will send you samples for free as long as you pay for shipping.  That company literally helped save my life.
Has anyone ever added cayenne to SM? I could use a burn right now.
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Re: General Discussion - 2013
« Reply #556 on: August 03, 2013, 09:44:00 AM »
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So I have a question... and maybe this is me putting the cart before the horse a bit.  I'm in Day 4... everything is manageable-ish thus far, but the only reason is probably because I am packing in Smokey Mountain like it is my fucking job... and by manageable i mean a royal fucking pain in the ass that makes me want to go head first in a log of skoal....but that is not for me anymore... QLF...

Those of you that utilized the fake stuff in your quit... When did you finally start weening yourself from the fake stuff? Or did you ever stop using the fake stuff....
Ironically, I just re-posted this yesterday:

http://blog.killthecan.org/2009/05/fake ... t-to-chew/

I'm a huge fan of the fake stuff as a tool early in your quit. For some people, it's too close to the real thing and it actually makes them crave. For me... it was a lifesaver.

I've often said, and still say to this day, that I'd rather chew a can/day of the fake stuff for the rest of my life then to ever have another dip of Kodiak.

For me personally, I chewed a can/day of the fake for a good 160 days or so into my quit. Then one day, I just started reaching for it less and less until one day I didn't need it at all.

You're on day 4... if it helps... USE IT!!!

Get some legs under you quit... eventually you won't need it, but until then don't worry about it.

chewie
Exactly what Chews said. I dipped Hooch Spitfire for the first 200 days or so. One day I just forgot to pack it.

If it works, do it. As long as there is no nicotine.
strong altoids are pretty good also.ginger is my favorite.it dosent taste well but if you stick 2 or 3 between your lip and gum its a pretty strong burn
I just discovered Seasalt and black pepper sunflower seeds.

Those things are the bomb.
As crazy as it sounds, I liked straight coffee grounds. Yeah it was messy, but it worked.
I really like Smokey Mountain Pouches. The menthol in the wintergreen and peppermint, along with the cayenne pepper have a nice "cool" burn. They help me with the oral fixation, and for a bonus there is not mess. Smokey Mountain is amazing because they will send you samples for free as long as you pay for shipping. That company literally helped save my life.

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Re: General Discussion - 2013
« Reply #555 on: August 02, 2013, 07:31:00 PM »
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So I have a question... and maybe this is me putting the cart before the horse a bit.  I'm in Day 4... everything is manageable-ish thus far, but the only reason is probably because I am packing in Smokey Mountain like it is my fucking job... and by manageable i mean a royal fucking pain in the ass that makes me want to go head first in a log of skoal....but that is not for me anymore... QLF...

Those of you that utilized the fake stuff in your quit... When did you finally start weening yourself from the fake stuff? Or did you ever stop using the fake stuff....
Ironically, I just re-posted this yesterday:

http://blog.killthecan.org/2009/05/fake ... t-to-chew/

I'm a huge fan of the fake stuff as a tool early in your quit. For some people, it's too close to the real thing and it actually makes them crave. For me... it was a lifesaver.

I've often said, and still say to this day, that I'd rather chew a can/day of the fake stuff for the rest of my life then to ever have another dip of Kodiak.

For me personally, I chewed a can/day of the fake for a good 160 days or so into my quit. Then one day, I just started reaching for it less and less until one day I didn't need it at all.

You're on day 4... if it helps... USE IT!!!

Get some legs under you quit... eventually you won't need it, but until then don't worry about it.

chewie
Exactly what Chews said. I dipped Hooch Spitfire for the first 200 days or so. One day I just forgot to pack it.

If it works, do it. As long as there is no nicotine.
strong altoids are pretty good also.ginger is my favorite.it dosent taste well but if you stick 2 or 3 between your lip and gum its a pretty strong burn
I just discovered Seasalt and black pepper sunflower seeds.

Those things are the bomb.
As crazy as it sounds, I liked straight coffee grounds. Yeah it was messy, but it worked.

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Re: General Discussion - 2013
« Reply #554 on: August 02, 2013, 07:10:00 PM »
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So I have a question... and maybe this is me putting the cart before the horse a bit.  I'm in Day 4... everything is manageable-ish thus far, but the only reason is probably because I am packing in Smokey Mountain like it is my fucking job... and by manageable i mean a royal fucking pain in the ass that makes me want to go head first in a log of skoal....but that is not for me anymore... QLF...

Those of you that utilized the fake stuff in your quit... When did you finally start weening yourself from the fake stuff? Or did you ever stop using the fake stuff....
Ironically, I just re-posted this yesterday:

http://blog.killthecan.org/2009/05/fake ... t-to-chew/

I'm a huge fan of the fake stuff as a tool early in your quit. For some people, it's too close to the real thing and it actually makes them crave. For me... it was a lifesaver.

I've often said, and still say to this day, that I'd rather chew a can/day of the fake stuff for the rest of my life then to ever have another dip of Kodiak.

For me personally, I chewed a can/day of the fake for a good 160 days or so into my quit. Then one day, I just started reaching for it less and less until one day I didn't need it at all.

You're on day 4... if it helps... USE IT!!!

Get some legs under you quit... eventually you won't need it, but until then don't worry about it.

chewie
Exactly what Chews said. I dipped Hooch Spitfire for the first 200 days or so. One day I just forgot to pack it.

If it works, do it. As long as there is no nicotine.
strong altoids are pretty good also.ginger is my favorite.it dosent taste well but if you stick 2 or 3 between your lip and gum its a pretty strong burn
I just discovered Seasalt and black pepper sunflower seeds.

Those things are the bomb.
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Re: General Discussion - 2013
« Reply #553 on: August 02, 2013, 05:55:00 PM »
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So I have a question... and maybe this is me putting the cart before the horse a bit.  I'm in Day 4... everything is manageable-ish thus far, but the only reason is probably because I am packing in Smokey Mountain like it is my fucking job... and by manageable i mean a royal fucking pain in the ass that makes me want to go head first in a log of skoal....but that is not for me anymore... QLF...

Those of you that utilized the fake stuff in your quit... When did you finally start weening yourself from the fake stuff? Or did you ever stop using the fake stuff....
Ironically, I just re-posted this yesterday:

http://blog.killthecan.org/2009/05/fake ... t-to-chew/

I'm a huge fan of the fake stuff as a tool early in your quit. For some people, it's too close to the real thing and it actually makes them crave. For me... it was a lifesaver.

I've often said, and still say to this day, that I'd rather chew a can/day of the fake stuff for the rest of my life then to ever have another dip of Kodiak.

For me personally, I chewed a can/day of the fake for a good 160 days or so into my quit. Then one day, I just started reaching for it less and less until one day I didn't need it at all.

You're on day 4... if it helps... USE IT!!!

Get some legs under you quit... eventually you won't need it, but until then don't worry about it.

chewie
Exactly what Chews said. I dipped Hooch Spitfire for the first 200 days or so. One day I just forgot to pack it.

If it works, do it. As long as there is no nicotine.
strong altoids are pretty good also.ginger is my favorite.it dosent taste well but if you stick 2 or 3 between your lip and gum its a pretty strong burn

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Re: General Discussion - 2013
« Reply #552 on: August 02, 2013, 02:28:00 PM »
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So I have a question... and maybe this is me putting the cart before the horse a bit.  I'm in Day 4... everything is manageable-ish thus far, but the only reason is probably because I am packing in Smokey Mountain like it is my fucking job... and by manageable i mean a royal fucking pain in the ass that makes me want to go head first in a log of skoal....but that is not for me anymore... QLF...

Those of you that utilized the fake stuff in your quit... When did you finally start weening yourself from the fake stuff? Or did you ever stop using the fake stuff....
Ironically, I just re-posted this yesterday:

http://blog.killthecan.org/2009/05/fake ... t-to-chew/

I'm a huge fan of the fake stuff as a tool early in your quit. For some people, it's too close to the real thing and it actually makes them crave. For me... it was a lifesaver.

I've often said, and still say to this day, that I'd rather chew a can/day of the fake stuff for the rest of my life then to ever have another dip of Kodiak.

For me personally, I chewed a can/day of the fake for a good 160 days or so into my quit. Then one day, I just started reaching for it less and less until one day I didn't need it at all.

You're on day 4... if it helps... USE IT!!!

Get some legs under you quit... eventually you won't need it, but until then don't worry about it.

chewie
Exactly what Chews said. I dipped Hooch Spitfire for the first 200 days or so. One day I just forgot to pack it.

If it works, do it. As long as there is no nicotine.
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Re: General Discussion - 2013
« Reply #551 on: August 02, 2013, 01:49:00 PM »
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So I have a question... and maybe this is me putting the cart before the horse a bit. I'm in Day 4... everything is manageable-ish thus far, but the only reason is probably because I am packing in Smokey Mountain like it is my fucking job... and by manageable i mean a royal fucking pain in the ass that makes me want to go head first in a log of skoal....but that is not for me anymore... QLF...

Those of you that utilized the fake stuff in your quit... When did you finally start weening yourself from the fake stuff? Or did you ever stop using the fake stuff....
Ironically, I just re-posted this yesterday:

http://blog.killthecan.org/2009/05/fake ... t-to-chew/

I'm a huge fan of the fake stuff as a tool early in your quit. For some people, it's too close to the real thing and it actually makes them crave. For me... it was a lifesaver.

I've often said, and still say to this day, that I'd rather chew a can/day of the fake stuff for the rest of my life then to ever have another dip of Kodiak.

For me personally, I chewed a can/day of the fake for a good 160 days or so into my quit. Then one day, I just started reaching for it less and less until one day I didn't need it at all.

You're on day 4... if it helps... USE IT!!!

Get some legs under you quit... eventually you won't need it, but until then don't worry about it.

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Re: General Discussion - 2013
« Reply #550 on: August 02, 2013, 01:15:00 PM »
So I have a question... and maybe this is me putting the cart before the horse a bit. I'm in Day 4... everything is manageable-ish thus far, but the only reason is probably because I am packing in Smokey Mountain like it is my fucking job... and by manageable i mean a royal fucking pain in the ass that makes me want to go head first in a log of skoal....but that is not for me anymore... QLF...

Those of you that utilized the fake stuff in your quit... When did you finally start weening yourself from the fake stuff? Or did you ever stop using the fake stuff....
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Re: General Discussion - 2013
« Reply #549 on: August 02, 2013, 11:16:00 AM »
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Quote from: Rob1985
Quote from: jrod
Did you know Tony Gwynn had mouth cancer? Check this out:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1067 ... co-chewers

The most haunting/sad part is toward the end of the article:
""I’m thinking it’s related to dipping,” said Gwynn, who resumed the practice of using chewing tobacco after the first two surgeries."
I’m thinking it’s related to dipping,”

Ya think? :blink:
hmmmm, possibly a connection?????? That's hard to imagine! _
The true horror is that he went back after two surgeries. That has always been a great fear of mine. It shows the power of the addiction.

It is for this reason that I do not agree with "one day at a time" or ODAAT. This concept terrifies me. I have made a decision not to use nicotine again, in any form for the rest of my life. This is my will.

Many of us have the fear that we will fall back. It expresses itself in dip dreams. Like any other addict, the fear of being "struck high" is always present early on and often later in recovery. For me, making a firm decision that I will not use nicotine again, ever, and knowing that it is my will to do so is far more comforting than the idea that I should do things one day at a time.

Many people think it is dangerous to say things like "I will never use it again" because we are addicts, and the addiction is strong. I say my will refuses to use it again and I don't have to worry about it, after all, in the end, it is my decision.

A cave is a decision made in the mind. No outside source or force can manifest the nicotine in my body. Only a decision made by me.

I realize I sound like a hard ass on this. But for me in this case and another it has been a life or death decision. I don't play games with it, I don't negotiate with it, and I take no prisoners with it.

I don't take a position that ODAAT is wrong, or should not be used. On the contrary if it works for you then use it. Anything to beat this addiction. I do think it is important however to present as many tools as possible.
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Interesting mjollnir. I'm in the same boat, I have believed I'm am quit forever since my first day here. Perhaps it is only because I waited so long to make the decision to quit that it was perfectly clear to me I was an addict by the time I got here. But I can say I've seen many a quitter who really does need to approach this one day or hour at a time. And I don't see any conflict between the two, my goal and intent is forever, my practice remains 1 day at a time.
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Re: General Discussion - 2013
« Reply #548 on: August 02, 2013, 09:00:00 AM »
hay chewy man... happy birth day. 'Birthday' 'party2' 'eat' 'Cheers' 'shots' 'Sing and Drink' 'puking'


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Re: General Discussion - 2013
« Reply #547 on: August 01, 2013, 08:18:00 PM »
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Hey all! New to the group. Having problems trying to figure out the roll call. Any advice would help. It has been 4 days. Been one of the harder things I have done. Been dipping for 15 years. Made the decision Sunday night. Enough is enough. Been chewing a lot of gum and working out twice a day. Hopefully, I am posting in the correct place. Have a good one!!!

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Re: General Discussion - 2013
« Reply #546 on: August 01, 2013, 07:14:00 PM »
Hey all! New to the group. Having problems trying to figure out the roll call. Any advice would help. It has been 4 days. Been one of the harder things I have done. Been dipping for 15 years. Made the decision Sunday night. Enough is enough. Been chewing a lot of gum and working out twice a day. Hopefully, I am posting in the correct place. Have a good one!!!

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Re: General Discussion - 2013
« Reply #545 on: August 01, 2013, 08:09:00 AM »
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Quote from: Rob1985
Quote from: jrod
Did you know Tony Gwynn had mouth cancer? Check this out:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1067 ... co-chewers

The most haunting/sad part is toward the end of the article:
""I’m thinking it’s related to dipping,” said Gwynn, who resumed the practice of using chewing tobacco after the first two surgeries."
I’m thinking it’s related to dipping,”

Ya think? :blink:
hmmmm, possibly a connection?????? That's hard to imagine! _
The true horror is that he went back after two surgeries. That has always been a great fear of mine. It shows the power of the addiction.

It is for this reason that I do not agree with "one day at a time" or ODAAT. This concept terrifies me. I have made a decision not to use nicotine again, in any form for the rest of my life. This is my will.

Many of us have the fear that we will fall back. It expresses itself in dip dreams. Like any other addict, the fear of being "struck high" is always present early on and often later in recovery. For me, making a firm decision that I will not use nicotine again, ever, and knowing that it is my will to do so is far more comforting than the idea that I should do things one day at a time.

Many people think it is dangerous to say things like "I will never use it again" because we are addicts, and the addiction is strong. I say my will refuses to use it again and I don't have to worry about it, after all, in the end, it is my decision.

A cave is a decision made in the mind. No outside source or force can manifest the nicotine in my body. Only a decision made by me.

I realize I sound like a hard ass on this. But for me in this case and another it has been a life or death decision. I don't play games with it, I don't negotiate with it, and I take no prisoners with it.

I don't take a position that ODAAT is wrong, or should not be used. On the contrary if it works for you then use it. Anything to beat this addiction. I do think it is important however to present as many tools as possible.
The Hammer.

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Re: General Discussion - 2013
« Reply #544 on: July 30, 2013, 09:59:00 AM »
Quote from: Rob1985
Quote from: jrod
Did you know Tony Gwynn had mouth cancer? Check this out:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1067 ... co-chewers

The most haunting/sad part is toward the end of the article:
""I’m thinking it’s related to dipping,” said Gwynn, who resumed the practice of using chewing tobacco after the first two surgeries."
I’m thinking it’s related to dipping,”

Ya think? :blink:
hmmmm, possibly a connection?????? That's hard to imagine! _