General Discussion - 2016

[Grandpa]

Jaydn,
For me, Smokey Mountain straight replaced the Skoal straight I had used for 33 years. I'm am 48 days into my quit and I have to say that I like the taste of SM......to the point I may well be addicted to it now. Since it has no nicotine and no apparent health hazards, I am not going to sweat it at this time.
You can get a variety of flavors on Amazon to try to see what works for you.
Whatever you do, do not ever go back to using tobacco.

[Jadyn]

I'm looking into the fake dip guys and I'm unsure of it, I mean, does it REALLY work? Does it help? I've seen a post about it, that it does but I need to be told myself and about the "firsts" I may encounter, and maybe even the best fake dip for me, I chewed skoal/grizz wintergreen, don't know if they have that flavor anywhere. I'm on NiP the Grip facebook page and there's many people who have great reviews. But I don't know yet.

[pky1520]

At day 25 should I be sleeping 11 hours a day and barely able to stay awake at work? I'm assuming this isn't normal at this point. Though rare it's possible Wellbutrin could cause extreme tiredness. Took my last dose yesterday morning. If that doesn't help I'll visit my doctor. This is miserable. Has to get better at some point.

The fog comes and goes and it's different for everyone. For many, it goes away but there is a resurgence of it somewhere between days 50-70.

Can't say for sure what's going on with you, but I can say that it gets better eventually. At day 25, you're still in the infancy of your quit. At day 86, I'm still in the infancy of my quit too. It's not unusual to have acute symptoms for a few months and resonant symptoms very far out.

You'll feel better as you go and caving now will only reset you to day 1.

If you join up with the October quit group, you'll have a whole network of folks in the same date range to bounce these things off of.

[Mnbryant2001]

At day 25 should I be sleeping 11 hours a day and barely able to stay awake at work? I'm assuming this isn't normal at this point. Though rare it's possible Wellbutrin could cause extreme tiredness. Took my last dose yesterday morning. If that doesn't help I'll visit my doctor. This is miserable. Has to get better at some point.

[Grandpa]

i finally got enough courage to make a dental appointment. 1st time since 1988.
i am terrified to be checked for cancer. i can't say i see anything that looks like pictures on this site, but I am not an expert and I really do not know what a healthy mouth should look like.
i do see on both cheeks near the back, what looks kind of like white head pimples. They have been there for a long time. Right where I bite my cheeks a lot over the years.
I am trying to avoid a panic attack, but this is going to be real hard.
Sorry for whining.

[chewie]

Not sure if this is the right place to post but I'll give it a shot here.

I am 5-6 weeks quit, nicotine is out of my system, and I don't feel the need/want to ever dip again.

My problem is I am now "addicted" to fake dip. It was great to help me kick the Skoal, but now I am struggling to give up the Smokey Mountain. Anyone else know this struggle, if so how did you get over it? I'm worried that without the fake stuff, I could relapse to the real shit. Does the oral craving ever lessen?

I'm feeling so good without that poison in my body, I never want to go back there again.

You're in the right place (also feel free to post stuff like this in your home group as other folks are most likely dealing with similar issues).

I was right there with you. After chewing a can / day of Kodiak for the better part of two decades I dove right in to the fake stuff. I chewed at least a can / day of Smokey Mountain for a good 200 + days or so into my quit. I, like you, worried quite a bit about whether or not I was addicted to the fake stuff and if I'd ever be able to put it down.

I resigned myself to the fact that I'd just always chew the fake. I told myself (and I still believe this) that I'd rather chew a can / day of the fake stuff for the rest of my life than to ever have another dip of Kodiak.

And then at around day 220 or so something happened.

I didn't need it any more.

I just sort of stopped using it and stopped needing it. If you're 6 weeks in you're well on your way, but you've got a lot of "first time" triggers yet to deal with. Summer is in full swing and fall is just around the corner. You're going to have to tackle quite a few "firsts" in the next few months. Keep that fake in your tool belt until you get some more legs under your quit.

Long story short... keep doing what you're doing. It's working. There will be a day when you should deal with the oral fixation but A) that's a long way away and B) it'll most likely take care of itself.

Chewie

[ironheadjack]

Not sure if this is the right place to post but I'll give it a shot here.

I am 5-6 weeks quit, nicotine is out of my system, and I don't feel the need/want to ever dip again.

My problem is I am now "addicted" to fake dip. It was great to help me kick the Skoal, but now I am struggling to give up the Smokey Mountain. Anyone else know this struggle, if so how did you get over it? I'm worried that without the fake stuff, I could relapse to the real shit. Does the oral craving ever lessen?

I'm feeling so good without that poison in my body, I never want to go back there again.

[DjPorkchop]

Not a problem.

I added a little more to it that I should have said the fist time.

Take care!

[Tcorn4]

Thanks for the help!

[DjPorkchop]

I am lost on this site, I am on day 23 of being a quitter for the second time and never looking back. I want to write my testimony specifically for high school/ex high school baseball players. How can I achieve this where they can actually read it?

Tcorn, you are more than welcome to go over to the Introductions thread and start your story over there. That is a great thread to get started. I can assure you some bad ass quitters will come along and rely as well.

A lot of us use the Introductions to tell our story as we go along with our quit. It is pretty much a journal we can all look back on to where we were and where we are now.

The only thing we ask is if they register and are not quit, they do not ever post in non dipping discussions or quit groups. That would be disrespectful to us that are nic free and quit. Much like bringing a 6 pack to an AA meeting.

Take care!

[Tcorn4]

I am lost on this site, I am on day 23 of being a quitter for the second time and never looking back. I want to write my testimony specifically for high school/ex high school baseball players. How can I achieve this where they can actually read it?

[DjPorkchop]

Post and Ghosters..... Shit heads!! Question is, do they add any value to your quit group?

In short terms, no. Not at all. They are a waste of space and should have no say in how the group operates. Make your post and move on! Or is that going to far?

In the long term side, yeah they do add value. There are some 100% post and ghosters that I can point out daily that are 100% posters. Does that add value? Certainly! It helps my group get 1 step closer to 100% for the day. It gives me faith that even though they are here limited use, the system is working for them and they do not need to be here 100% of the time. that is pretty freakin awesome if it works for them! it inspires me that one day, i won't need to be here 12 hours a day. I can once again balance my life out and live life on life's terms. And I can do it nic free! Do post ghosters annoy me? Yeah really bad. I wish they would step up and chat every now and again. BUT, I understand some people get up early in the morning, post and leave for work and are gone from home 12-14 plus hours a day and when they get home, they don't feel like sitting on the net. I get it. So should we not give them a say in our group because of that fact? It's not really for me to decide. it is their group to not just mine. I recall being there my self. I was out the door by 5 and back home by 9 pm that night. I had to time to shit shower and shave, eat a late diner and hug and kiss my daughter and say good night to her and tuck her little self in bed. And for that very reason, should I have lost my right in a group to have a vote? Even though I post daily and am 100% and quit?

Bottom line is, we all can't be here 24/7. Hell there are MANY days it is impossible for me to be on as much as I have been here the last few days. I try to stay busy most of the time and NOT on the computer. I don't have a job that allows me to be in front of a screen all day. So if you only see me post roll one day and that is all, please don't pass judgement. Just know that I am quit with you all 100% all in EDD! If I plan to cave, I will NOT post a promise to you all. But what I can do is promise you this, TODAY I am nic free and will be all damn day! Tomorrow I will wake up and be on roll with you clowns even if that is all the posting I do for the day.

Take care everyone and may the quit be with you!

[Stranger999]

Hi =)
I am looking to quit chew ...I had a scare last month , I was referred to a ENT because I had a ulcer that appeared on My tongue that would not go away .After trying several meds with no luck...They did a biopsy which came back negative for cancer ...I have tried several times which has only lasted a short period of time ...The last time I tried the nicotine gum but then that caused My TMJ to flare up ....So I am here looking for some advice on how to do this ...I know it's not going to be easy ..

Some advice - read some threads to tell you who we are and what we're about here...

Welcome Center

We quit cold turkey here, nicotine is not allowed in any form. When you have flushed all of your cans and are nicotine free go here to post roll.

October 2016 Quit Group

We promise not to use nicotine every day as soon as we wake up in the morning. Your promise is for 24 hours. Make your promise, keep your promise, and if you still want to quit repeat the next morning. It isn't easy but you will quit and you will have support from your quit brothers in October and the veterans on this site. B)B

I understand what this site is about , wasn't sure where to start ...Was looking for some advice ..Nice way you welcome someone =/

We can only point you in the right direction. You need to decide to quit for yourself. If you do quit drink as much water as you can stand and get some exercise. Do whatever you can to keep nicotine out or your body and your thoughts. If you post roll you will have great company. :)

Hmmm, I'm guessing the biopsy needs to come back positive before you actually quit William. That is too bad. :(

[Stranger999]

Hi =)
I am looking to quit chew ...I had a scare last month , I was referred to a ENT because I had a ulcer that appeared on My tongue that would not go away .After trying several meds with no luck...They did a biopsy which came back negative for cancer ...I have tried several times which has only lasted a short period of time ...The last time I tried the nicotine gum but then that caused My TMJ to flare up ....So I am here looking for some advice on how to do this ...I know it's not going to be easy ..

Some advice - read some threads to tell you who we are and what we're about here...

Welcome Center

We quit cold turkey here, nicotine is not allowed in any form. When you have flushed all of your cans and are nicotine free go here to post roll.

October 2016 Quit Group

We promise not to use nicotine every day as soon as we wake up in the morning. Your promise is for 24 hours. Make your promise, keep your promise, and if you still want to quit repeat the next morning. It isn't easy but you will quit and you will have support from your quit brothers in October and the veterans on this site. B)B

I understand what this site is about , wasn't sure where to start ...Was looking for some advice ..Nice way you welcome someone =/

We can only point you in the right direction. You need to decide to quit for yourself. If you do quit drink as much water as you can stand and get some exercise. Do whatever you can to keep nicotine out or your body and your thoughts. If you post roll you will have great company. :)

[Electdale]

As of today, 40 days quit. This is after 33 years of Skoal straight which I started using to quit a 10 year smoking habit. Damage done prior to quitting: heart attack, high blood pressure, lost and loose teeth. I finally became honest with myself and admitted nicotine caused the known problems.
Now I am stressing about the unknown problems. I know I need to go to the dentist. I need loose teeth and bad gums dealt with before I have to eat only liquids. I am terrified to have the dentist check me out for cancer. Wimp, chicken, pussy, whatever you want to call me. I am sweating typing this.
My quit date is June 11, 2016, so I believe I belong in th September quit group.

That's Awesome! Im at Day #5 so well in the rear view for you! I want to speak towards your concerns though... I know what you are feeling and am scared to death of getting checked by a Dentist....Its been 4 years since my last check up.. I have had three teeth pulled and replaced over the past 14years. Im scared to death what he/she may find.

I have read several posts on this very thing. We are all scared (myself included) but we face it like Adults. We face it like we face this addiction everyday. Some days are tougher than others. (Although right now all my days are tough.)

I have decided to quit and give it my all as a person everyday. Once I am over the major symptoms Ill worry/face my fears about the next step (Dentist). I'm scared as hell but we have to face it someday.. Day #5 is not the time to take on any other potential bad news scenario's..

In time we must face it or be constantly worried about it. Just think about what a "clean bill of health" would do to our psych. That's my end goal, a second chance to live life free and not worried about what may come. We can do it...We have to do it!