Well, I have finally decided to get help. I started out on Copenhagen straight then went to Grizzly wintergreen long cut, then I decided that pouches were the way to go because it forced me to use less, but I just found that I was doubling up the pouches. I then told myself that I was not addicted because I only consumed about a can every 2 to 3 days. I put the cans away and could last about a week then fell right back into it. I have always told myself that I could quit on my own, but after the past 11 years, I have finally realized that I am lying to myself. I did some research and found KTC and decided to take the plunge with the rest of the bad ass quitters here. I just bought some seeds and am waiting on my smokey mountain cans to come in the mail to help me with the habit of having something there. Any pointers are much appreciated.