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Re: General Discussion - 2015
« Reply #610 on: September 17, 2015, 05:54:00 PM »
Hi Cope.

Day 32... nice! I am just now on day 1. As far as the fog goes, i am not quite sure. Like you I have 5 mg Valium to rely on. I got 2 of them on board as we speak. It has calmed me down a bit to say the least. I hope the valiums help.

We got this man!! Have you posted roll yet?
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Re: General Discussion - 2015
« Reply #609 on: September 17, 2015, 03:59:00 PM »
I joined KTC today. I have been dipping for over 30 years now and after 32 days, I quit cold Turkey, I even quit drinking at the same time, talk about a double whammy! I started chewing when I was around 14 as I visited my cousins during the summer months in Kentucky, years later it progressed to dip. My brand of choice was Cope Long Cut Wintergreen. Over the last 5 years I have used a can a day and going cold Turkey, has been a living HELL! Day 18 of being free is when it hit the fan, I feel like I am not even here, I can talk to someone and it's like its not me talking to them, I feel like I am losing touch with reality, that's when the anxiety sets in and I go into panic mode, Is this normal? Is this the "FOG' that everyone refers to on here? If so, you all have been strong to not cave and give back into the dip demon. I went to the Dr. and he started me on 5mg of Valium, first day on it and it seem to help some but I still do not feel like myself. If this is the normal feeling associated with nicotine withdrawals, I will never touch this stuff again. I just want this to go away and be normal again, but what is normal, without dip. 'Crazy'
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Re: General Discussion - 2015
« Reply #608 on: September 17, 2015, 01:15:00 AM »
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I haven't posted since 95 days ago, but holy shit, I made it through day 100. I feel bad for not consistently posting my experience on this site, as it helped me SOOO much the first week of quitting. I guess it was my way of distancing myself from dip - not wanting to think about or talk about it. But I made it and I don't plan on dipping in the future!

So thank you KillTheCan for all the support - especially during the fog. Once I fought through each trigger , it got easier and easier to quit. I rarely think about it anymore.

So I guess I'm in the HOF And damn it went by way quicker than I thought! If you're struggling out there BE A MAN and keep fighting through the urges to dip!!!!! You'll thank yourself in the long run, and loved ones will notice. Best of luck everyone :)
Congratulations on gutting this out on your own so far! Though, I'm not sure exactly what KTC did for you. It looks like you missed the invite to join in.

It's not too late to start. Check out September 2015 - The Samurai's of Quit. They pulled together an awesome little group. Drop in and introduce yourself.

I'd caution you that at 100 days, you are not cured. The fight is not over. At 259, I still it the occasional craving. It's never to late to build a support network.

Either way, congratulations on being quit!

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Re: General Discussion - 2015
« Reply #607 on: September 17, 2015, 12:37:00 AM »
I haven't posted since 95 days ago, but holy shit, I made it through day 100. I feel bad for not consistently posting my experience on this site, as it helped me SOOO much the first week of quitting. I guess it was my way of distancing myself from dip - not wanting to think about or talk about it. But I made it and I don't plan on dipping in the future!

So thank you KillTheCan for all the support - especially during the fog. Once I fought through each trigger , it got easier and easier to quit. I rarely think about it anymore.

So I guess I'm in the HOF And damn it went by way quicker than I thought! If you're struggling out there BE A MAN and keep fighting through the urges to dip!!!!! You'll thank yourself in the long run, and loved ones will notice. Best of luck everyone :)

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Re: General Discussion - 2015
« Reply #606 on: September 15, 2015, 11:36:00 PM »
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New to the group and 24 hours nicotine free. This is so tough. I'm gonna miss it, but I'm ready to rid myself of this habit.

What are the rules here regarding quitting aids? My work has all sorts of help available and I'd like to utilize it, if it's free and worthy. However, there's some satisfaction from going cold turkey.

I feel like I have drank 10 5 hour energy drinks. It's insane how amped up I am......

Jimmy G
Welcome aboard!

Believe me, you aren't going to miss a thing. There is absolutely nothing worth missing about shoving crap in your lip day after day.

As far as what your work offers, the only rule is that we are nicotine free. So no posting in quit groups while using nicotine replacement therapy (NRT, e.g. patches, gum). If your work offers coaching, etc, go for it.

The way this place works is:
1) Each day, post a promise to be nicotine free for the day.
2) Keep your promise.
Repeat one day at a time (ODAAT) every damn day (EDD). Wake-up, piss, and post (WUPP) for best results.

I'd suggest heading over to December 2015. That's your quit group. Take a look at how to post roll and then make your promise.
Chewing your finger nails is a habit. We are nicotine addicts, don't believe me, start on this journey and you will find out how strong and far nicotine's tentacles reach. But the good news, we are beating it each day!

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Re: General Discussion - 2015
« Reply #605 on: September 15, 2015, 10:10:00 PM »
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New to the group and 24 hours nicotine free. This is so tough. I'm gonna miss it, but I'm ready to rid myself of this habit.

What are the rules here regarding quitting aids? My work has all sorts of help available and I'd like to utilize it, if it's free and worthy. However, there's some satisfaction from going cold turkey.

I feel like I have drank 10 5 hour energy drinks. It's insane how amped up I am......

Jimmy G
Welcome aboard!

Believe me, you aren't going to miss a thing. There is absolutely nothing worth missing about shoving crap in your lip day after day.

As far as what your work offers, the only rule is that we are nicotine free. So no posting in quit groups while using nicotine replacement therapy (NRT, e.g. patches, gum). If your work offers coaching, etc, go for it.

The way this place works is:
1) Each day, post a promise to be nicotine free for the day.
2) Keep your promise.
Repeat one day at a time (ODAAT) every damn day (EDD). Wake-up, piss, and post (WUPP) for best results.

I'd suggest heading over to December 2015. That's your quit group. Take a look at how to post roll and then make your promise.

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Re: General Discussion - 2015
« Reply #604 on: September 15, 2015, 09:59:00 PM »
New to the group and 24 hours nicotine free. This is so tough. I'm gonna miss it, but I'm ready to rid myself of this habit.

What are the rules here regarding quitting aids? My work has all sorts of help available and I'd like to utilize it, if it's free and worthy. However, there's some satisfaction from going cold turkey.

I feel like I have drank 10 5 hour energy drinks. It's insane how amped up I am......

Jimmy G

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Re: General Discussion - 2015
« Reply #603 on: September 15, 2015, 07:30:00 PM »
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I am inclined to agree. The nic and chew will do no good. I will be calling doc in the morn and getting this ball rolling.
Good on ya' man!

The weight stuff is manageable. A lot of folks swear by some sort of physical activity to help with craves and anxiety. Doing some form of motion in lieu of reaching for candy can help a bunch.

Again, not a doctor, but I can't imagine that a couple more pounds temporarily at this point isn't offset by no longer jacking your cardiovascular system up by pumping it full of nicotine all day every day.

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Re: General Discussion - 2015
« Reply #602 on: September 15, 2015, 07:11:00 PM »
I am inclined to agree. The nic and chew will do no good. I will be calling doc in the morn and getting this ball rolling.
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Re: General Discussion - 2015
« Reply #601 on: September 15, 2015, 04:36:00 PM »
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Thanks for the reply NoMore.

Yeah the suck sure does suck bad but its not anything anyone here has not been through I suppose. My issue is just giving up the the addiction and saying no more. I just need to toss the dip in the toilet and start taking my valiums I have on hand to get me through the major part of the suck. I REALLY need to quit and stay quit.
It sounds like you have pretty strong withdrawal symptoms. Before self medicating, can I strongly suggest that you talk to your doctor about quitting nicotine?

I'm all for holding on to the sack nice and tight and quitting cold turkey. I have my opinions on the usefulness of nicotine replacement therapy (NRT, e.g. patches, gum, etc.) and have heard both positive and negative stories about prescription cessation products like Chantix. Bottom line though, if you're to the point where you need something like valium to quit, I strongly suggest you do so under the watchful eye of a physician.

For the record, despite the handle, I am not an M.D., and I am not qualified to give medical advice. Hence, the suggestion to go talk to your doctor.
I will tell you one thing, Chew and Nicotine, won't help anything. The addition was hiding some underlying issues, stay quit and get help for the others.

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Re: General Discussion - 2015
« Reply #600 on: September 15, 2015, 04:35:00 PM »
Not a bad idea to talk to doc about it. I did once and he shot me down on chantix due to me taking 3 other anti depressants. Another thing he is worried about is the weight gain. I already tip the scale at 385.

Appreciate the reply.
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Re: General Discussion - 2015
« Reply #599 on: September 15, 2015, 04:27:00 PM »
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Thanks for the reply NoMore.

Yeah the suck sure does suck bad but its not anything anyone here has not been through I suppose. My issue is just giving up the the addiction and saying no more. I just need to toss the dip in the toilet and start taking my valiums I have on hand to get me through the major part of the suck. I REALLY need to quit and stay quit.
It sounds like you have pretty strong withdrawal symptoms. Before self medicating, can I strongly suggest that you talk to your doctor about quitting nicotine?

I'm all for holding on to the sack nice and tight and quitting cold turkey. I have my opinions on the usefulness of nicotine replacement therapy (NRT, e.g. patches, gum, etc.) and have heard both positive and negative stories about prescription cessation products like Chantix. Bottom line though, if you're to the point where you need something like valium to quit, I strongly suggest you do so under the watchful eye of a physician.

For the record, despite the handle, I am not an M.D., and I am not qualified to give medical advice. Hence, the suggestion to go talk to your doctor.

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Re: General Discussion - 2015
« Reply #598 on: September 15, 2015, 04:20:00 PM »
Thanks for the reply NoMore.

Yeah the suck sure does suck bad but its not anything anyone here has not been through I suppose. My issue is just giving up the the addiction and saying no more. I just need to toss the dip in the toilet and start taking my valiums I have on hand to get me through the major part of the suck. I REALLY need to quit and stay quit.
If I could I would. If I don't, it's because I am lazy.

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Re: General Discussion - 2015
« Reply #597 on: September 14, 2015, 02:53:00 PM »
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Hello fellas. Names Ray.

I joined this site last January of February 2014 and made it a week or so until I ended up in the hospital. I wasn't able to make roll and when I got out of the hospital I caved.

I have tried to stop dipping a couple times since then. Every time I try I start out strong. Hours in I begin wearing down. The shakes start, the cold sweats start, not long after I begin actually convulsing to the point of throwing up. Muscles begin to hurt from it and so it goes for a couple days until I can't hack it anymore and I give up. It freaking sucks majorly. I hate the fact that I must have a can of "Dak" on me 24/7 to make me feel better. I use a can every 3 days or so. If only it were as easy as when i quit smoking. I was a 3 pack per day smoker for 15 plus years.

Anyhow, enough of me boo hooing. I need to get off my ass and do something about it. I really appreciate this site posting on Facebook. Every day I look at my FB page and there is a nice post for KTC and it reminds me of how much I need to get off my ass and say "No more". I WILL slay this beast one way or the other.

Take care and I shall see you all in roll call soon...er than later. And for the record, I just changed my home page to KTC so there is no excuse for me not to be here daily.

Ray
Sounds like you get a strong suck going. Also sounds like your health would be much improved by a quit that lasted past the suck.

Best bet, exchange digits right away. Then if you end up in the hospital, you can text in your roll post every day and keep the quit in your mind for when you get out. At that point you are past the worst, and fellow quitters can talk you through the craving to stay quit that day, then the next.

Hope to see you on a roll soon.

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Re: General Discussion - 2015
« Reply #596 on: September 14, 2015, 02:28:00 PM »
Hello fellas. Names Ray.

I joined this site last January of February 2014 and made it a week or so until I ended up in the hospital. I wasn't able to make roll and when I got out of the hospital I caved.

I have tried to stop dipping a couple times since then. Every time I try I start out strong. Hours in I begin wearing down. The shakes start, the cold sweats start, not long after I begin actually convulsing to the point of throwing up. Muscles begin to hurt from it and so it goes for a couple days until I can't hack it anymore and I give up. It freaking sucks majorly. I hate the fact that I must have a can of "Dak" on me 24/7 to make me feel better. I use a can every 3 days or so. If only it were as easy as when i quit smoking. I was a 3 pack per day smoker for 15 plus years.

Anyhow, enough of me boo hooing. I need to get off my ass and do something about it. I really appreciate this site posting on Facebook. Every day I look at my FB page and there is a nice post for KTC and it reminds me of how much I need to get off my ass and say "No more". I WILL slay this beast one way or the other.

Take care and I shall see you all in roll call soon...er than later. And for the record, I just changed my home page to KTC so there is no excuse for me not to be here daily.

Ray
If I could I would. If I don't, it's because I am lazy.

Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the Ark. Professionals built the Titanic.