General Discussion - 2015

[chewie]

Scientists Say It Only Takes 66 Days To Change Your Life
http://www.whackthepack.com/2015/01/sci ... your-life/

The issue I've got here is the word "habit" as its used... we're not dealing with habits... we're dealing with addiction. Big difference.

[tarosean]

My fear is dealing witht he triggers i have that make me want a dip....drinking a beer, watching sports, being outside, fishing, hunting.....dear Lord give me the strength to get through this.

I hear ya brother. I am on day 23 of my quit. I was pretty stressed out from work and lots of bad news plastered all over the news last night. (I am a consultant in the Oil and Gas Industry) I really wanted a Dip and a Stiff Drink. Luckily I did not partake in either.

This is the longest I have gone without a can of Cope in over 30yrs and I am not going to fail now.

[Tuco]

my name is Tony and my quit day was yesterday after 20 years of dipping. I didn't do it as much as i used to, I would go all day at work without and then have one at night. I have two young kids that would ask me why I put that stuff in my mouth and I didn't have a good answer. I figure now is as good a time as any. My fear is dealing witht he triggers i have that make me want a dip....drinking a beer, watching sports, being outside, fishing, hunting.....dear Lord give me the strength to get through this.

Welcome to Day 2. It's gonna suck, but you can absolutely do this. The strength is already within you to be victorious one day at a time against your addiction. First thing's first: head on over to the April 2015 Quit Group (this is your group), post roll, and start consuming everything you possibly can on this site.

[Tuco]

I've been dipping 6 years at a can a day...just flushed a full can down the toilet...read a lot on this site and it is very inspiring. I've tried quitting a few times and failed but this time will be different.

Welcome. Best decision you will ever make. Today should be Day 2 for you, so head on over to your April 2015 Quit Group and let's get this thing going.

Remember, we don't try to quit here. We just quit.

[HuskerTony]

my name is Tony and my quit day was yesterday after 20 years of dipping. I didn't do it as much as i used to, I would go all day at work without and then have one at night. I have two young kids that would ask me why I put that stuff in my mouth and I didn't have a good answer. I figure now is as good a time as any. My fear is dealing witht he triggers i have that make me want a dip....drinking a beer, watching sports, being outside, fishing, hunting.....dear Lord give me the strength to get through this.

[Justin2551]

I've been dipping 6 years at a can a day...just flushed a full can down the toilet...read a lot on this site and it is very inspiring. I've tried quitting a few times and failed but this time will be different.

[Grievous Angel]

Compare this:

I will be totally honest, I love dipping. After filling my stomach with a fantastic meal, I put one in. On my way to work, I put one in. Before and after practice, I put one in. Watching TV, going on Facebook, you name it, I put one in. I go through about a can every other day ($5 in my area). I can't get enough of it.

to This:

I will be totally honest, I love meth. After filling my stomach with a fantastic meal, I do meth. On my way to work, I do meth. Before and after practice, I do meth. Watching TV, going on Facebook, you name it, I do meth. I go through about a teenth every other day other day ($50 in my area). I can't get enough of it.

One may be more deadly than the other, but they're both addictions. You do not love to dip. You just can't live without it. You love that it makes the withdrawal symptoms go away temporarily.

[Tuco]

Hi all,

I decided to join this group after my family each individually talked to me about "killing the can". I am a 22 year old (nearly 23) former student athlete at a PAC-12 university and currently interning and coaching a sport part-time. I have been dipping since I was 18, in fact, my first can was on my 18th birthday and I have not stopped since.

After some thinking and self-reflecting, I figured out that I am not ready to give up the can. I really, REALLY want to be ready, but I am not. I joined this forum to help figure out how I can ready myself to quit and thus lead myself to quitting this disgusting and repulsive habit that I currently have.

I have had a girlfriend the past year and a half and I told her that I "used" to dip a long time ago, but she is in the dark about my habit- I have hid countless cans, bottles, etc., from her. I want to quit because of her. I have a 14 year old brother that has cried at night because he has seen the images of mouth, jaw, and throat cancer in his health classes and does not want to see his idol of an older brother turn out like that. I want to quit because of him. Both of my parents have expressed their concern about me and the financial weight that dipping has and how the money towards each can of tobacco can be used to pay for future expenses (rent, food, etc.), as well as their concern for my own well-being. I want to quit because of them.

But I am not ready to. I will be totally honest, I love dipping. After filling my stomach with a fantastic meal, I put one in. On my way to work, I put one in. Before and after practice, I put one in. Watching TV, going on Facebook, you name it, I put one in. I go through about a can every other day ($5 in my area). I can't get enough of it.

I know the consequences of it and I know that one day I will quit this. But I want that day to come MUCH sooner than later, and I was hoping that you all could help with that. How did you all decide, figure out, or come to peace with quitting? Because currently, I am at a loss and not near a crossroads. I know I need to quit and I want to, but not now.

Thank you and BTFD.

Unfortunately, none of us can say or do anything that will truly inspire you to quit. That has to come from within you.

You have to quit for you.

Not for your parents that are worried about the health and well-being of their son. Not for your younger brother that worries and cries about his "idol" today, but could very likely follow in your footsteps and pick the shit up himself tomorrow. Not for the girlfriend that you've been lying to for your entire relationship.

You need to quit for you, because it is you alone that will make the decision not to use each day.

My advice: Go get done. Do whatever it is you have to do, but go get done. Truly done. Done as in, you hate the shit and what it's done to you and your body. Done as in, you are disgusted with yourself for letting a weed rule your life and dictate your relationships (parents, brother, girlfriend). Done as in, you want your freedom back.

One final thing that I want you to know is that you are an addict with an addiction. Dipping isn't a habit, it's an addiction. You will be a nicotine addict for the rest of your life. When and if you ever decide to face your addiction, know that this is something you will never be cured of. Sure, it does get easier, but this is a fight you will fight for the rest of your life.

[30yraddict]

Hey guys. Hope everyone is charging forward into the new year. I need some help from other quitters. I dipped for a can a day for 24 years ( roughly 8760 cans of snuff) and loved every minute of it. I quit on February 15, 2014. So almost a year into it and have never went back. Please don't congratulate me, I am not here for support and feel if you need some one to tell you can do it every 5 min then you need to grow up and realize why you are quitting ( insert pic of your kids). I am a orthopedic surgeon and have exhausted every medical exam possible and still can't find an answer. I chewed Nicorette until the end of February 2014 sometime and got the classic slightly buzzed dizziness that is referred to as fog. The problem is I am still experiencing it allday everyday. It has gotten better since last year but still there, and have never fully returned to normal. Please don't suggest and medical tests, all been exhausted and all normal. I am looking long term quitters that may be experiencing the same condition. I believe these type of conditions are caused by blood sugar issues following long term nicotine stimulatin of the pancrease to small amounts of constant insulin and when taken away leads to a reactive hypoglycemia state. If interested please let me know and I would love to discuss these nicotine effects on glucose regulation. Anyone else still dealing with this please let me know, would validate nicotine withdrawl symptoms VS. Unknown mysterious medical condition.

Thanks,

Thanks for stopping by Houston.

Glad you are not currently using tobacco.

To answer your question: I've been here for 4 years, and I can't recall anyone posting anything about a "long term fog" the way you are describing.

On another note - you may not think you need help, but judging by the copious amount of addict speak in your post, you actually do. However, you have to be at the point where you are willing to have an open mind. Let me know if you would like us to point out some flaws in your thinking that might help you to be successful. There really is no shame in asking for help or support. That's what we do here.

For the record, we have a 100% success rate for the people who precisely follow the program we use. If you would like to know more about it, shoot me a pm.

[Kdip]

Hello all.
My name is Mike, and I am a Dipper.
I took my last Dip 1/12. after 35 year of dipping.

Welcome Mike - congrats on a GREAT decision!!!

Head on over to April 2015 and introduce yourself and post roll.
topic/10847546/

Let us know how we can help!

Guess it wasn't his last dip since there is only 4 posts and no activity since the 15th!!! Mike, put on your bog boy pants and post up a day 1!!! the quitten is good over here!!!! You will NEVER regret quitting and you will ALWAYS regret caving!!!

[Houston]

Hey guys. Hope everyone is charging forward into the new year. I need some help from other quitters. I dipped for a can a day for 24 years ( roughly 8760 cans of snuff) and loved every minute of it. I quit on February 15, 2014. So almost a year into it and have never went back. Please don't congratulate me, I am not here for support and feel if you need some one to tell you can do it every 5 min then you need to grow up and realize why you are quitting ( insert pic of your kids). I am a orthopedic surgeon and have exhausted every medical exam possible and still can't find an answer. I chewed Nicorette until the end of February 2014 sometime and got the classic slightly buzzed dizziness that is referred to as fog. The problem is I am still experiencing it allday everyday. It has gotten better since last year but still there, and have never fully returned to normal. Please don't suggest and medical tests, all been exhausted and all normal. I am looking long term quitters that may be experiencing the same condition. I believe these type of conditions are caused by blood sugar issues following long term nicotine stimulatin of the pancrease to small amounts of constant insulin and when taken away leads to a reactive hypoglycemia state. If interested please let me know and I would love to discuss these nicotine effects on glucose regulation. Anyone else still dealing with this please let me know, would validate nicotine withdrawl symptoms VS. Unknown mysterious medical condition.

Thanks,

[Idaho Spuds]

Read this dear abby article: guy loses one lung to smoking, keep smoking with one lung.... no nicotine ever....
http://news.yahoo.com/losing-lung-no-de ... 11002.html

[Idaho Spuds]

Hey everyone, figured this would be a good place to ask a question that's been on my mind for a while. I'm on day 99 of my quit (HOF tomorrow) - and my trigger was always when I got home from work, and sat down to watch TV, play video games or do yard work. Occasionally, like most guys I'd have a beer or two to accompany the dip while doing these activities. As of late, I've noticed I'm drinking a little more....not a whole lot more, but enough to notice. An extra beer or two, and an extra day or two throughout the week. I know the seriousness of alcoholism and I've been studying the warning signs and how people drop one addiction for another. How do you guys deal with this, just halt the booze all together for a period of time? Granted....this all takes place in the evening before bed. Any information at all would be awesome.

Great point, I find my self craving booze all the more.
Day 12 here, my 2 week hump started early I think. I feel like I'm on day 4 and going backwards in time.
Can any any vets here weigh in on the booze cravings?
I imagine its a pretty touchy subject.

*bumpfix*

Jiffy -

We (addicts) have a ton in common. One thing is our addictive personalities. As you've correctly pointed out, this tends to lead to overindulgance of one thing (alcohol / food) when putting down another thing (dip). It's become a sad running joke for me, but I'm still working on my "quit weight" 8 years after I've quit.

That said... recognizing that there's a potential issue there is the first step towards doing something about it.

We've got a couple of sub-groups here on the forums that can potentially help using the same methods that we use for dip (roll call):

Alcohol Quit Group - if you want to quit drinking all together
topic/1003099/

Alcohol Slow Down - I don't quit "get" this one, but I think it's for folks like you who are looking to "pump the brakes" a bit when it comes to drinking
topic/1004305/

Happy to help in any way that I can!

chewie

I have posted on a similar string of thoughts before. Quitting nicotine and chew uncovers some more issues.
I did this and it might work for you, make yourself a couple goals:
1. no beers Monday - Thursday
2. instead of sitting on the couch, exercise and work up a sweat, the body will crave water and Gatorade instead of beer
3. when you usually drink beer, drink hot tea instead
4. on weekends don't let yourself over compensate, keep it slow, a couple beers and drink water beforehand

[chewie]

Hey everyone, figured this would be a good place to ask a question that's been on my mind for a while. I'm on day 99 of my quit (HOF tomorrow) - and my trigger was always when I got home from work, and sat down to watch TV, play video games or do yard work. Occasionally, like most guys I'd have a beer or two to accompany the dip while doing these activities. As of late, I've noticed I'm drinking a little more....not a whole lot more, but enough to notice. An extra beer or two, and an extra day or two throughout the week. I know the seriousness of alcoholism and I've been studying the warning signs and how people drop one addiction for another. How do you guys deal with this, just halt the booze all together for a period of time? Granted....this all takes place in the evening before bed. Any information at all would be awesome.

Great point, I find my self craving booze all the more.
Day 12 here, my 2 week hump started early I think. I feel like I'm on day 4 and going backwards in time.
Can any any vets here weigh in on the booze cravings?
I imagine its a pretty touchy subject.

*bumpfix*

Jiffy -

We (addicts) have a ton in common. One thing is our addictive personalities. As you've correctly pointed out, this tends to lead to overindulgance of one thing (alcohol / food) when putting down another thing (dip). It's become a sad running joke for me, but I'm still working on my "quit weight" 8 years after I've quit.

That said... recognizing that there's a potential issue there is the first step towards doing something about it.

We've got a couple of sub-groups here on the forums that can potentially help using the same methods that we use for dip (roll call):

Alcohol Quit Group - if you want to quit drinking all together
topic/1003099/

Alcohol Slow Down - I don't quit "get" this one, but I think it's for folks like you who are looking to "pump the brakes" a bit when it comes to drinking
topic/1004305/

Happy to help in any way that I can!

chewie

[trigerhapy]

Hey everyone, figured this would be a good place to ask a question that's been on my mind for a while. I'm on day 99 of my quit (HOF tomorrow) - and my trigger was always when I got home from work, and sat down to watch TV, play video games or do yard work. Occasionally, like most guys I'd have a beer or two to accompany the dip while doing these activities. As of late, I've noticed I'm drinking a little more....not a whole lot more, but enough to notice. An extra beer or two, and an extra day or two throughout the week. I know the seriousness of alcoholism and I've been studying the warning signs and how people drop one addiction for another. How do you guys deal with this, just halt the booze all together for a period of time? Granted....this all takes place in the evening before bed. Any information at all would be awesome.

Great point, I find my self craving booze all the more.
Day 12 here, my 2 week hump started early I think. I feel like I'm on day 4 and going backwards in time.
Can any any vets here weigh in on the booze cravings?
I imagine its a pretty touchy subject.