General Discussion - 2010

[Lawen4cer]

I will be back and to that i give my word.

Lawen4cer

Law -



I'll ask only one thing of you. When you come back, make it for the final time. Don't show up until you're really ready to be done for good. That's the only way that this will work for you.

I'll be here when you're determined to get the Bitch out of your life for the final time.

chewie

Is this an order? I quit for 3.5 years and i knew 3.5 years ago that this wasn't my final time?!

Its not like i come here quit for a few years just to fuck it off again. I have never started a quit that i didn't feel i was really really ready for...

I thought the one i was on for 3 years+ was my final time but i was wrong it seems.

Law - you must decide to save your own life. We'll help and support you AFTER you've made to decision. Analyze what went wrong and amend your plan. In addition to posting roll, I re-read the Kern family story every now and then. I printed off the contract and keep it with me. I come back to encourage others (like this).

The tough-love thing on here is other people who are angry you caved because they care about you. The anger you feel is because your angry at yourself for caving, angry that nic keeps working her damn way back into your life, and angry because YOU let her. Let's face it...YOU let YOU down. The best part is that your pissed off!!! Use that anger as motivation. Do something about it.

Get numbers, amend your quit plan, and just focus on one day at a time. Forget "forever"...you just need to worry about right now...today. Then post roll, stay quit for just one day, and repeat daily. There is no better time than right now to save your own life. You take the first step, we'll help with the rest.

Well said Bean... well said indeed.

Law, no need to get snippy, and no... it wasn't an order. I was merely trying to say that I didn't want you to come back before you were ready. I don't want to see you back here in a month merely because "it's been long enough".

But I'd like to ask one thing not because I'm being a dick but because I'm honestly curious. What brings you back to the can after so long? You've been a quit machine for YEARS and then have gone back multiple times. Why? Has there been something similar each time?

I ask because at this point in my quit, I can't for the life of me think of a reason that I'd ever go back. I'm not saying this cause I think I'm better than you or my quit is any stronger than yours was. I'm also not saying this cause I think I'm "cured" after all this time. I'm honestly curious as to what would lead you back after you'd gotten the bitch out of your life - especially knowing what you know?

chewie

"You've been a quit machine for YEARS and then have gone back multiple times. Why? "

First of all Id like to clear something up. I caved a bit back before may 8 2007

may 8 2007 I quit and remained quit never dipping until sep 19 2010. there have not been multiple times or caves.

sorry if I came off as snippy it was not my intent. it was a question because if it was I would know if I could come back or not. you being the "boss" and all if you say dont come back then I wont. was clarifying what I didnt understand.

as to why I wont go into detail in an open room. but it was something that happened that I could nolonger deal with in my head and one day I had a complete melt down about the whole thing and basically quit caring came up for air a week later as I said before I realised that I needed to talk action and not just on dip if I was going to find myself again because I went MIA for a while.

if you want details PM me and I will do my best to say it as it was.

Law

[Kdip]

I will be back and to that i give my word.

Lawen4cer

Law -



I'll ask only one thing of you. When you come back, make it for the final time. Don't show up until you're really ready to be done for good. That's the only way that this will work for you.

I'll be here when you're determined to get the Bitch out of your life for the final time.

chewie

Is this an order? I quit for 3.5 years and i knew 3.5 years ago that this wasn't my final time?!

Its not like i come here quit for a few years just to fuck it off again. I have never started a quit that i didn't feel i was really really ready for...

I thought the one i was on for 3 years+ was my final time but i was wrong it seems.

Law - you must decide to save your own life. We'll help and support you AFTER you've made to decision. Analyze what went wrong and amend your plan. In addition to posting roll, I re-read the Kern family story every now and then. I printed off the contract and keep it with me. I come back to encourage others (like this).

The tough-love thing on here is other people who are angry you caved because they care about you. The anger you feel is because your angry at yourself for caving, angry that nic keeps working her damn way back into your life, and angry because YOU let her. Let's face it...YOU let YOU down. The best part is that your pissed off!!! Use that anger as motivation. Do something about it.

Get numbers, amend your quit plan, and just focus on one day at a time. Forget "forever"...you just need to worry about right now...today. Then post roll, stay quit for just one day, and repeat daily. There is no better time than right now to save your own life. You take the first step, we'll help with the rest.

Well said Bean... well said indeed.

Law, no need to get snippy, and no... it wasn't an order. I was merely trying to say that I didn't want you to come back before you were ready. I don't want to see you back here in a month merely because "it's been long enough".

But I'd like to ask one thing not because I'm being a dick but because I'm honestly curious. What brings you back to the can after so long? You've been a quit machine for YEARS and then have gone back multiple times. Why? Has there been something similar each time?

I ask because at this point in my quit, I can't for the life of me think of a reason that I'd ever go back. I'm not saying this cause I think I'm better than you or my quit is any stronger than yours was. I'm also not saying this cause I think I'm "cured" after all this time. I'm honestly curious as to what would lead you back after you'd gotten the bitch out of your life - especially knowing what you know?

chewie

Kiddo, I really do hope you can come to the decision to rid yourself of the can for good. I really felt bad for you when you confided with me in private chat that night several weeks ago that you had caved. I did not tell anyone that night because I wanted you to make the decision to come forward to the group about your cave. ITs a lifetime battle. My job has been very stressful lately and my resolve was tested this morning when some smokers lit up. I had the worst craves I have had in at least a year but I got in here as quickly as I could to post my promise for the day. I DO NOT want that shit back in my life PERIOD!!!!!!!

KDIP

[chewie]

I will be back and to that i give my word.

Lawen4cer

Law -



I'll ask only one thing of you. When you come back, make it for the final time. Don't show up until you're really ready to be done for good. That's the only way that this will work for you.

I'll be here when you're determined to get the Bitch out of your life for the final time.

chewie

Is this an order? I quit for 3.5 years and i knew 3.5 years ago that this wasn't my final time?!

Its not like i come here quit for a few years just to fuck it off again. I have never started a quit that i didn't feel i was really really ready for...

I thought the one i was on for 3 years+ was my final time but i was wrong it seems.

Law - you must decide to save your own life. We'll help and support you AFTER you've made to decision. Analyze what went wrong and amend your plan. In addition to posting roll, I re-read the Kern family story every now and then. I printed off the contract and keep it with me. I come back to encourage others (like this).

The tough-love thing on here is other people who are angry you caved because they care about you. The anger you feel is because your angry at yourself for caving, angry that nic keeps working her damn way back into your life, and angry because YOU let her. Let's face it...YOU let YOU down. The best part is that your pissed off!!! Use that anger as motivation. Do something about it.

Get numbers, amend your quit plan, and just focus on one day at a time. Forget "forever"...you just need to worry about right now...today. Then post roll, stay quit for just one day, and repeat daily. There is no better time than right now to save your own life. You take the first step, we'll help with the rest.

Well said Bean... well said indeed.

Law, no need to get snippy, and no... it wasn't an order. I was merely trying to say that I didn't want you to come back before you were ready. I don't want to see you back here in a month merely because "it's been long enough".

But I'd like to ask one thing not because I'm being a dick but because I'm honestly curious. What brings you back to the can after so long? You've been a quit machine for YEARS and then have gone back multiple times. Why? Has there been something similar each time?

I ask because at this point in my quit, I can't for the life of me think of a reason that I'd ever go back. I'm not saying this cause I think I'm better than you or my quit is any stronger than yours was. I'm also not saying this cause I think I'm "cured" after all this time. I'm honestly curious as to what would lead you back after you'd gotten the bitch out of your life - especially knowing what you know?

chewie

[Bean]

I will be back and to that i give my word.

Lawen4cer

Law -



I'll ask only one thing of you. When you come back, make it for the final time. Don't show up until you're really ready to be done for good. That's the only way that this will work for you.

I'll be here when you're determined to get the Bitch out of your life for the final time.

chewie

Is this an order? I quit for 3.5 years and i knew 3.5 years ago that this wasn't my final time?!

Its not like i come here quit for a few years just to fuck it off again. I have never started a quit that i didn't feel i was really really ready for...

I thought the one i was on for 3 years+ was my final time but i was wrong it seems.

Law - you must decide to save your own life. We'll help and support you AFTER you've made to decision. Analyze what went wrong and amend your plan. In addition to posting roll, I re-read the Kern family story every now and then. I printed off the contract and keep it with me. I come back to encourage others (like this).

The tough-love thing on here is other people who are angry you caved because they care about you. The anger you feel is because your angry at yourself for caving, angry that nic keeps working her damn way back into your life, and angry because YOU let her. Let's face it...YOU let YOU down. The best part is that your pissed off!!! Use that anger as motivation. Do something about it.

Get numbers, amend your quit plan, and just focus on one day at a time. Forget "forever"...you just need to worry about right now...today. Then post roll, stay quit for just one day, and repeat daily. There is no better time than right now to save your own life. You take the first step, we'll help with the rest.

[Lawen4cer]

I will be back and to that i give my word.

Lawen4cer

Law -



I'll ask only one thing of you. When you come back, make it for the final time. Don't show up until you're really ready to be done for good. That's the only way that this will work for you.

I'll be here when you're determined to get the Bitch out of your life for the final time.

chewie

Is this an order? I quit for 3.5 years and i knew 3.5 years ago that this wasn't my final time?!

Its not like i come here quit for a few years just to fuck it off again. I have never started a quit that i didn't feel i was really really ready for...

I thought the one i was on for 3 years+ was my final time but i was wrong it seems.

[QuittinTime]

october 19 2010 i caved from 3.5 years quit.

I am here not for someone to tell me that caving was ok.  I have been down the road of quitting a few times as have most of the quitters here.  I know that i messed up and that caving fixed nothing.  I came to a head where i was looking all of my adversaries square in the face and i wanted out of that situation. 

My mind went right back to its addict mindset saying that drinking and a dip are my only options.  So i choose both options that night. 
Went into a week long funk and came out addicted all over again and seeing myself in the "mirror" made me realize that there were steps that needed taken and now before i threw away my career and my life.  Dip not being at the top of my life cleaning list i decided to start with seeking professional counselling. Started monday. 

The above being said.  Quit is on my list but i have to get my head back on the right track first, then everything else will follow.....dip...beer....physically back in shape...etc. 

Some may call me weak, stupid, low life, caver, disrespectful, selfish,......etc  if this is thecase then so be it! No personal attac intended
I know what i need to do to get myself and my future back. 

Caving should never be an option nor to i condone my actions, i caved and only compounded the guilt i was already feeling and now i have to pay the consequences of my decisions.

I just know that i have a huge bear to kill and losing is not an option i will accept. 

I will be back and to that i give my word.

Lawen4cer

Law -

I can't begin to tell you how bad this hurts. You know what needs to be done and you also know that this place will help you get to where you know you need to be. Unfortunately I or the thousands other here can't quit for you.

When you're ready... really ready to quit, we'll be here. I'll leave the ass chewing to others who do it much better than I. As I've said a million times, we bust balls cause we care. I truly do hope that it's not too long before you're back here, posting daily and getting a grasp on your demons. I know that I have.

I'll ask only one thing of you. When you come back, make it for the final time. Don't show up until you're really ready to be done for good. That's the only way that this will work for you.

You've got my number... call or text if you need to talk. I'll be here when you're determined to get the Bitch out of your life for the final time.

chewie

'qt'

[chewie]

october 19 2010 i caved from 3.5 years quit.

I am here not for someone to tell me that caving was ok. I have been down the road of quitting a few times as have most of the quitters here. I know that i messed up and that caving fixed nothing. I came to a head where i was looking all of my adversaries square in the face and i wanted out of that situation.

My mind went right back to its addict mindset saying that drinking and a dip are my only options. So i choose both options that night.
Went into a week long funk and came out addicted all over again and seeing myself in the "mirror" made me realize that there were steps that needed taken and now before i threw away my career and my life. Dip not being at the top of my life cleaning list i decided to start with seeking professional counselling. Started monday.

The above being said. Quit is on my list but i have to get my head back on the right track first, then everything else will follow.....dip...beer....physically back in shape...etc.

Some may call me weak, stupid, low life, caver, disrespectful, selfish,......etc if this is thecase then so be it! No personal attac intended
I know what i need to do to get myself and my future back.

Caving should never be an option nor to i condone my actions, i caved and only compounded the guilt i was already feeling and now i have to pay the consequences of my decisions.

I just know that i have a huge bear to kill and losing is not an option i will accept.

I will be back and to that i give my word.

Lawen4cer

Law -

I can't begin to tell you how bad this hurts. You know what needs to be done and you also know that this place will help you get to where you know you need to be. Unfortunately I or the thousands other here can't quit for you.

When you're ready... really ready to quit, we'll be here. I'll leave the ass chewing to others who do it much better than I. As I've said a million times, we bust balls cause we care. I truly do hope that it's not too long before you're back here, posting daily and getting a grasp on your demons. I know that I have.

I'll ask only one thing of you. When you come back, make it for the final time. Don't show up until you're really ready to be done for good. That's the only way that this will work for you.

You've got my number... call or text if you need to talk. I'll be here when you're determined to get the Bitch out of your life for the final time.

chewie

[chewie]

I'"m on day 7 and I find my self needing something as well, I dont like candy or sunflower seads, and gum just bothers me (dont no why) so i don't say this is good, but I sip on coffee all day and night, its not like I go threw 40 cups a day but i have cup with me all day. and it sems to work for me, this is my first time quiting after 32 years and I am determind and with this site I have no need to spend 4$ a day again. Info go buy a contigo coffee mug it keeps it hot up to 4 hrs. (google it) good luck stay quit.

Dunk

dude keep the quit going. Seeds worked for me, but if coffee is your thing roll with it.

Key is to find something that works. I seem to change it up a bit. Tried candy and gum, but I am over that. Beef jerky works well for me and reciently I was turned on to sucking on cardomum pods. Those really satisfy the oral fixation and my wife likes how it leaves my breath. I also did the coffee thing for a while but was drinking too much, so I went to just hot water. Seems to provide the same relief.

Keep up the quit Dunk. I am for anything you can find that doesn't contain nicotine.

I was the same way the first week or two in regards to drinking TONS of coffee. However, I would get very jittery so now I just drink one or two cups of coffee in the morning and then switch over to herbal teas throughout work and before bed.

Non caffeinated herbal teas are great. There are some great anti-anxiety ones...white, green, hibiscus, chamomile. I'm not a tea expert, but I am slowly learning a lot about them, and they have really helped with the "anxiety" part of my quit, especially at work. Can't go wrong with a good green tea.

Be careful early in your quit when it comes to caffeine: http://www.killthecan.org/robs/cafnic.asp

[Shadow66]

Thanks for the online support Bean  Greg5280 :)

I'm looking forward to being an active poster on KTC very shortly

So what happened to yea ?

[Lawen4cer]

october 19 2010 i caved from 3.5 years quit.

I am here not for someone to tell me that caving was ok. I have been down the road of quitting a few times as have most of the quitters here. I know that i messed up and that caving fixed nothing. I came to a head where i was looking all of my adversaries square in the face and i wanted out of that situation.

My mind went right back to its addict mindset saying that drinking and a dip are my only options. So i choose both options that night.
Went into a week long funk and came out addicted all over again and seeing myself in the "mirror" made me realize that there were steps that needed taken and now before i threw away my career and my life. Dip not being at the top of my life cleaning list i decided to start with seeking professional counselling. Started monday.

The above being said. Quit is on my list but i have to get my head back on the right track first, then everything else will follow.....dip...beer....physically back in shape...etc.

Some may call me weak, stupid, low life, caver, disrespectful, selfish,......etc if this is thecase then so be it! No personal attac intended
I know what i need to do to get myself and my future back.

Caving should never be an option nor to i condone my actions, i caved and only compounded the guilt i was already feeling and now i have to pay the consequences of my decisions.

I just know that i have a huge bear to kill and losing is not an option i will accept.

I will be back and to that i give my word.

Lawen4cer

[medunk2]

Hey teaka, thought I would look threw the cupboards and see what the wife had in the tea supply, I found a jar of ginger root tea so I thought I would try it, well not to bad but one thing I noticed it took some of the stinging sensation I have in my lips and mouth away a bit, could be just in my head but regardless something new. Day 9 and doing fine, thanks to you all.

[teaka]

I'"m on day 7 and I find my self needing something as well, I dont like candy or sunflower seads, and gum just bothers me (dont no why) so i don't say this is good, but I sip on coffee all day and night, its not like I go threw 40 cups a day but i have cup with me all day. and it sems to work for me, this is my first time quiting after 32 years and I am determind and with this site I have no need to spend 4$ a day again. Info go buy a contigo coffee mug it keeps it hot up to 4 hrs. (google it) good luck stay quit.

Dunk

dude keep the quit going. Seeds worked for me, but if coffee is your thing roll with it.

Key is to find something that works. I seem to change it up a bit. Tried candy and gum, but I am over that. Beef jerky works well for me and reciently I was turned on to sucking on cardomum pods. Those really satisfy the oral fixation and my wife likes how it leaves my breath. I also did the coffee thing for a while but was drinking too much, so I went to just hot water. Seems to provide the same relief.

Keep up the quit Dunk. I am for anything you can find that doesn't contain nicotine.

I was the same way the first week or two in regards to drinking TONS of coffee. However, I would get very jittery so now I just drink one or two cups of coffee in the morning and then switch over to herbal teas throughout work and before bed.

Non caffeinated herbal teas are great. There are some great anti-anxiety ones...white, green, hibiscus, chamomile. I'm not a tea expert, but I am slowly learning a lot about them, and they have really helped with the "anxiety" part of my quit, especially at work. Can't go wrong with a good green tea.

[DizzyDude]

I'"m on day 7 and I find my self needing something as well, I dont like candy or sunflower seads, and gum just bothers me (dont no why) so i don't say this is good, but I sip on coffee all day and night, its not like I go threw 40 cups a day but i have cup with me all day. and it sems to work for me, this is my first time quiting after 32 years and I am determind and with this site I have no need to spend 4$ a day again. Info go buy a contigo coffee mug it keeps it hot up to 4 hrs. (google it) good luck stay quit.

Dunk

dude keep the quit going. Seeds worked for me, but if coffee is your thing roll with it.

Key is to find something that works. I seem to change it up a bit. Tried candy and gum, but I am over that. Beef jerky works well for me and reciently I was turned on to sucking on cardomum pods. Those really satisfy the oral fixation and my wife likes how it leaves my breath. I also did the coffee thing for a while but was drinking too much, so I went to just hot water. Seems to provide the same relief.

Keep up the quit Dunk. I am for anything you can find that doesn't contain nicotine.

[nugget]

I'"m on day 7 and I find my self needing something as well, I dont like candy or sunflower seads, and gum just bothers me (dont no why) so i don't say this is good, but I sip on coffee all day and night, its not like I go threw 40 cups a day but i have cup with me all day. and it sems to work for me, this is my first time quiting after 32 years and I am determind and with this site I have no need to spend 4$ a day again. Info go buy a contigo coffee mug it keeps it hot up to 4 hrs. (google it) good luck stay quit.

Dunk

dude keep the quit going. Seeds worked for me, but if coffee is your thing roll with it.

[davenc]

Your right guys.....I meant this Sat, 10/30

I'm been alternating dips of Timberwolf  Smokey Mountain for the last week

Call me crazy.....but I'm committed to being NIC FREE for 48 hours before I have to return to work on Monday, 11/1  'archer'

if you did it now you'd be nic free for 72 hours and the nic would be outta your system. Just sayin.....

Sounds like a great committment....yawn.....a real commitment would be to dump the lipper, toss the can and start right now!

I like your way of thinking tarpon. Man up dude and quit right now.

The sooner you quit the sooner you cock begins to get bigger! Its a win-win baby! wooooooooooooooo!