General Discussion - 2017

[ldave]

Hey guysÂ…new here and have a question. On day 2 and i had ordered some hooch and herd to help. I really liked the way herd packed better but that smell was awful. Ive seen a couple reviews saying it smelled good and one saying it smelled bad. Did I just get a bad few cans? Thanks for the help.

[chewie]

so I quit on July 5th and haven't had a dip since but I did recently smoke an e-cig for a little over a week and just came off a weekend of smoking cigars, fishing and drinking for my birthday weekend.

I started having some really bad anxiety like my chest was going to explode last week and I am feeling depressed today.

I don't know what to do. Very depressed and feeling uneasy for the past 6 days.

any talk would help :'(

You are depressed and having really bad anxiety because you are going through withdrawals again. Sadly, your weekend of smoking cigars (as well as the e-cig) has reintroduced your body to the drug you have taken away since the 5th of July. Basically, you're on day 2 or 3 (depending on when you had your last nicotine) which is literally the worst day you could be on (from a withdrawal standpoint).

https://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/wh ... t-dipping/

Your best path forward is to keep that shit out of your system completely. That means no e-cigs, no cigars, no dip, etc.

Find your group here on the forums (it would be November 2017 topic/30296729/), head over there, introduce yourself and post roll...

One day at a time is how you're going to beat this. Sadly with the weekend you just had, you're back at at the beginning. That said, you're not alone and you're in the right place to get it done.

Chewie

[dw_harrington]

Hi guys, I'm about 10 days in and it has been rough. I get anxious or irritable a lot. But failure is not an option, I literally moved to another country where you can't even buy the stuff!

[cwake30]

so I quit on July 5th and haven't had a dip since but I did recently smoke an e-cig for a little over a week and just came off a weekend of smoking cigars, fishing and drinking for my birthday weekend.

I started having some really bad anxiety like my chest was going to explode last week and I am feeling depressed today.

I don't know what to do. Very depressed and feeling uneasy for the past 6 days.

any talk would help :'(

[Samrs]

hey guys,

i have question as far as getting strong urges in social situations. The toughest place for me to say no to tobacco is when I'm around my buddies. We meet once a week and we sit around the fire and have some beers. I'm 23 years old so this one night a week thing isn't something I want to give up quite yet, but I really get the strongest urges here. Does anyone have any advice from similar situations?

Couple of bits of advice... talk about your quit, lay off the beer for a while, find something to kill the craves, and have a lifeline.

If you're talking quit around your friends, you're letting them know that you're serious, reminding yourself that your quit, and generally making it harder for yourself to say "toss that can over here". You might even get some of them thinking about it.

Alcohol lowers inhibitions, which is one of the last things you need early on in your quit. You don't have to become a tea-totaler for life, but give some thought to avoiding it for a while. Heck, make everyone love you by volunteering to be the designated driver for a while. Plus, when they ask you why you're skipping the beer, you can... talk about your quit.

There's a bunch of smokeless alternatives out there - the main KTC site has a bunch of links at https://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/reviews/ You might want to take a look, and see if there's something there that appeals to you. Smokey Mountain is pretty readily available, and a lot of the other stuff can be ordered online (you can even get sampler packs with a bunch of different flavors, if you're in an experimental mood). If the thought of using fake feels too much like backsliding to you, then have your favorite crave killer - gum, mints, Werthers, sour Jolly Ranchers, Altoids, jerky, whatever - handy so when a crave hits, you can stuff something beside dried cancer turds in your mouth.

Finally - that lifeline. If you don't have numbers for some fellow quitters in your group already, find a few that seem like good guys and send them your number. If you already have a couple of numbers, make sure that they're active - shoot everyone a text, say hello, get to know them and get them in your messaging list so that reaching out to them when you need to won't feel awkward. If you really want a strong lifeline, give someone a call and talk to them - it's amazing how much that can strengthen your quit. Do all that, so if the time comes and you've had a beer, run out of fake, and a bad craving hits you, you can excuse yourself for a moment and text or call a buddy and have them text/talk you through the rough patch until the crave subsides.

[Youngbull23]

hey guys,

i have question as far as getting strong urges in social situations. The toughest place for me to say no to tobacco is when I'm around my buddies. We meet once a week and we sit around the fire and have some beers. I'm 23 years old so this one night a week thing isn't something I want to give up quite yet, but I really get the strongest urges here. Does anyone have any advice from similar situations?

[Coping]

Thanks Samrs and Chewie. Those articles helped a lot.

I can handle the withdrawal, the pain, the sleeplessness. Its the emotional rollercoaster that is crushing me. Unfortunately I was already an outspoken asshole, so this magnifier is taking its toll on me.

I was serious about the quit, I will never go through days 1-3 again, but this board helps keep me grounded by knowing im not alone. Thanks again yall!

[chewie]

Hey all, sorry if this is the wrong place, but I was wondering if living in a constant state of rage is actually normal. I quit 8 days ago, after chewing a tin per day, for over 25 years. I was the guy who always had a chew in, all day, all night. I went cold turkey without weaning down in advance, and I have used jakes mint chew(non tobacco) as a crutch.

I was a monster for three days, with a fog that could not be understood. My wife and kids gave me a lot of space as I was an absolute mess of a human being. Since the fog has lifted, I am fairly normal, except for two things. I cant sleep for more than an hour at a time, and when awake, i feel as though I am constantly on the verge of screaming and yelling. My wife is awesome and understands, but my 6  9 year old cant possibly understand whats going on.

I guess my question is how long until I can stop being a complete asshole to everyone I love? I dont want to yell at my kids or be cynical with my wife, but how I feel about it doesn't stop me from flying off the handle, and its day 8 for christs sake, i should be more balamced by now I would have thought.

Anyway, sorry to bitch, and no I dont want to do roll calls because I quit chew. Im not taking a break, its something that I simply will never do again. Also, thanks to all who make this site what it is.

Coping - first off: eight days quit by yourself is badass. Believe it or not, you have already gotten through the absolute worst... look back, and remember it, and how much it just plain sucked, and know that so long as you never use nicotine, you will never ever have to go through that again.

Now, here's the harsh reality: you spent 25 years letting your brain stew in nicotine day in and day out. That stuff has screwed up your brain chemistry. It's going to take more than a week (or a couple of weeks) to get back to feeling "normal".

Here's the good news you need to hear, and take to heart: if you stay quit, your brain will learn to function normally again, and life WILL get better.

There are a couple of links on the main site that talk about what you will experience when you quit using nicotine:

What To Expect When You Quit Dipping
Symptoms of Quitting Dip and Chew

Go give them a read; depending on a lot of factors, your quit may be a little different, but trust me - it will most likely sound a lot like what they describe.

After that, I really, really want to urge you to read one more page, about how KTC works...

Here's How You Quit... Ball Is In Your Court Now

... then go on over to the November 2017 quit group and start posting roll. Then, next time you get angry, don't let yourself take it out on your wife or kids - come here, and scream at us. We'll understand; we've all been there. I pretty much lived on the site the first few months of my quit, keeping myself distracted so I wouldn't start screaming at everyone around me. That's what we're here for. Get on over, post roll, get involved, and we'll help you get past this and into better days before you know it.

In addition to Sam's articles you may want to give these a read:

Why Am I Being Such An Ass To Everyone?
https://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/as ... -everyone/

Why Chewie Loves Dip Rage
https://www.killthecan.org/facts-figure ... -dip-rage/

[Samrs]

Hey all, sorry if this is the wrong place, but I was wondering if living in a constant state of rage is actually normal. I quit 8 days ago, after chewing a tin per day, for over 25 years. I was the guy who always had a chew in, all day, all night. I went cold turkey without weaning down in advance, and I have used jakes mint chew(non tobacco) as a crutch.

I was a monster for three days, with a fog that could not be understood. My wife and kids gave me a lot of space as I was an absolute mess of a human being. Since the fog has lifted, I am fairly normal, except for two things. I cant sleep for more than an hour at a time, and when awake, i feel as though I am constantly on the verge of screaming and yelling. My wife is awesome and understands, but my 6  9 year old cant possibly understand whats going on.

I guess my question is how long until I can stop being a complete asshole to everyone I love? I dont want to yell at my kids or be cynical with my wife, but how I feel about it doesn't stop me from flying off the handle, and its day 8 for christs sake, i should be more balamced by now I would have thought.

Anyway, sorry to bitch, and no I dont want to do roll calls because I quit chew. Im not taking a break, its something that I simply will never do again. Also, thanks to all who make this site what it is.

Coping - first off: eight days quit by yourself is badass. Believe it or not, you have already gotten through the absolute worst... look back, and remember it, and how much it just plain sucked, and know that so long as you never use nicotine, you will never ever have to go through that again.

Now, here's the harsh reality: you spent 25 years letting your brain stew in nicotine day in and day out. That stuff has screwed up your brain chemistry. It's going to take more than a week (or a couple of weeks) to get back to feeling "normal".

Here's the good news you need to hear, and take to heart: if you stay quit, your brain will learn to function normally again, and life WILL get better.

There are a couple of links on the main site that talk about what you will experience when you quit using nicotine:

What To Expect When You Quit Dipping
Symptoms of Quitting Dip and Chew

Go give them a read; depending on a lot of factors, your quit may be a little different, but trust me - it will most likely sound a lot like what they describe.

After that, I really, really want to urge you to read one more page, about how KTC works...

Here's How You Quit... Ball Is In Your Court Now

... then go on over to the November 2017 quit group and start posting roll. Then, next time you get angry, don't let yourself take it out on your wife or kids - come here, and scream at us. We'll understand; we've all been there. I pretty much lived on the site the first few months of my quit, keeping myself distracted so I wouldn't start screaming at everyone around me. That's what we're here for. Get on over, post roll, get involved, and we'll help you get past this and into better days before you know it.

[Coping]

Hey all, sorry if this is the wrong place, but I was wondering if living in a constant state of rage is actually normal. I quit 8 days ago, after chewing a tin per day, for over 25 years. I was the guy who always had a chew in, all day, all night. I went cold turkey without weaning down in advance, and I have used jakes mint chew(non tobacco) as a crutch.

I was a monster for three days, with a fog that could not be understood. My wife and kids gave me a lot of space as I was an absolute mess of a human being. Since the fog has lifted, I am fairly normal, except for two things. I cant sleep for more than an hour at a time, and when awake, i feel as though I am constantly on the verge of screaming and yelling. My wife is awesome and understands, but my 6  9 year old cant possibly understand whats going on.

I guess my question is how long until I can stop being a complete asshole to everyone I love? I dont want to yell at my kids or be cynical with my wife, but how I feel about it doesn't stop me from flying off the handle, and its day 8 for christs sake, i should be more balamced by now I would have thought.

Anyway, sorry to bitch, and no I dont want to do roll calls because I quit chew. Im not taking a break, its something that I simply will never do again. Also, thanks to all who make this site what it is.

[KingNothing]

Thank you sir!

Atlanta, two years ago today I finally quit. All the other times before that were just 'stops'.

Buy into this place, drink the kool aid, get active, post roll, exchange numbers. This shit works baby!!

Seconded ^^^

[JB65]

Thank you sir!

Atlanta, two years ago today I finally quit. All the other times before that were just 'stops'.

Buy into this place, drink the kool aid, get active, post roll, exchange numbers. This shit works baby!!

[Atlanta6774]

Thank you sir!

[ReWire]

Are there quit groups for 2017 quitters? Today is day 1 for me and looking for a quit group but only see 2016 and prior? Thanks from a serious newbie..

topic/30296729/118/

^^ There's your group. Welcome sir

[Atlanta6774]

Are there quit groups for 2017 quitters? Today is day 1 for me and looking for a quit group but only see 2016 and prior? Thanks from a serious newbie..