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Re: General Discussion - 2017
« Reply #373 on: August 16, 2017, 11:17:00 AM »
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Thanx pky1520, that's what I figured but without reading everything on the site it was surprising to find solid advice from people who are banned. I understand the newbie part from other forums, that was just a reference point for the banned title
pky is 100% accurate in his assessment of what banned means, and how folks get there.

I'll simply add that solid advice can be solid advice, regardless of the source, which is why we choose to let it live on the site. Also oftentimes, the advice is given at a particular time in a person's quit before they decided to become a problem which would lead to their banning.

Welcome - and keep asking questions. As you said, there are no bad ones.

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Re: General Discussion - 2017
« Reply #372 on: August 15, 2017, 07:50:00 PM »
Thanx pky1520, that's what I figured but without reading everything on the site it was surprising to find solid advice from people who are banned. I understand the newbie part from other forums, that was just a reference point for the banned title
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Re: General Discussion - 2017
« Reply #371 on: August 15, 2017, 06:30:00 PM »
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I have a quick site related question. I see different demarcations under people's avatars when posting. I understand there are different levels of participation and or time or achievements. Mine says "newbie" as that is where I am at in my quit. When reading some older threads, I sometimes see "banned" in that spot for some people. So the question is, are those posters actually banned from the site? Some of it seems to be in threads suggested as good reading material for us newbies. I know there are no stupid questions, only stupid people, so help this stupid person understand.
"Newbie" relates to your post count. It will automatically change as your post count increases. You can also change that by going in to your profile and creating a custom title.

"Banned" does mean that a user has been permanently banned from the site. Their username, email address and IP address has been blocked and the Mod/ Admin team are on the lookout for these folks trying to sneak back in with new profiles.

There are very few rules at KTC, but the leadership team is 100% committed to protecting the integrity of this site. Bans are not taken lightly, but sometimes it is a necessary step to keep this site protected from those that would actively disrupt the process or degrade the foundation of trust. Individuals will be banned for things like Lying on Roll (Posting a day, while using nicotine), Harassment of other quitters, Persistent  disruptive trolling, Threats and abuse.

It is very hard to get banned from this site. Leadership here provides a long rope because everyone should feel comfortable coming here to blow off steam and express themselves with 100% honesty. This is a site for adults who are quitting nicotine. That can be an ugly process and this is a place where you should feel free to get ugly sometimes. That's part of the healing process. People who get banned, do so because they were actively disrupting the quits of others or they have compromised the foundation of honesty that this site is built on. Don't do that, and you won't ever have to worry about it.

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Re: General Discussion - 2017
« Reply #370 on: August 15, 2017, 02:55:00 PM »
I have a quick site related question. I see different demarcations under people's avatars when posting. I understand there are different levels of participation and or time or achievements. Mine says "newbie" as that is where I am at in my quit. When reading some older threads, I sometimes see "banned" in that spot for some people. So the question is, are those posters actually banned from the site? Some of it seems to be in threads suggested as good reading material for us newbies. I know there are no stupid questions, only stupid people, so help this stupid person understand.
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Re: General Discussion - 2017
« Reply #369 on: August 15, 2017, 12:35:00 PM »
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Quit, have not checked back into our roll group to see if you have posted yet, but I am currently quit 15 days. Get on and post roll, make your promise to not use nicotine today
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Re: General Discussion - 2017
« Reply #368 on: August 15, 2017, 12:09:00 PM »
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just joined. i like my username.
Welcome Quit! Congrats on 5 days. Have you checked out the Quit Groups here? Head on over to November 2017 and start Posting Roll there. Everyone in that group will have quit within the same general time frame as you and will be able to commiserate and hold you accountable.

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Re: General Discussion - 2017
« Reply #367 on: August 15, 2017, 11:15:00 AM »
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Re: General Discussion - 2017
« Reply #366 on: August 13, 2017, 05:14:00 PM »
I like the format, and I like the last idea at the end about automating it. I can't say for sure that emails like this would have gotten me to make the decision to quit back in 2012, but they would definitely have made me rethink my choice to just post once and disappear. Just the thoughts of a former "almost quitter" who is now a quitter one day at a time and up to 13 days who also wishes it was 5.5 years plus 13 days...
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Re: General Discussion - 2017
« Reply #365 on: August 13, 2017, 03:17:00 PM »
So I've been thinking....the entire premise of this site is to get folks to quit (whether that's dip, chew, smokes, whatever).... So what do we do to try and reinforce the quit among nascent "almost quitters". There are a goodly number of folks who come here, post an intro, maybe even a roll post, and then vanish. I remember what it was like before me finding this place; with no accountability, no one holding your feet to the fire, no promise made, it was easy to collapse after some half-hearted attempt at quitting. That ended the day I posted my day one... This place absolutely works for those who work the system and have a shred of integrity.

But back to the premise....and what do we do with the "almost quitters"? I think, without us turning into some internet stalker, that we should make an honest effort to reach out to them with an email (most quitters' profiles have a link to email them through the KTC system). I propose that committed quitters flood the inboxes of those who are nearly there, but not quite, with an email something along the lines of the following:

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(Insert name of prospective quitter here),

I see you posted an (intro, day one, etc....), but have noticed your absence since then. When you finally make your mind up to be quit (and what I wouldn't have given XX years ago to be quit at 21!!!), pull yourself up by the short-hairs, put on your big-boy britches, and come on back to KTC. I know this place works, because it worked for me, a nearly FOUR DECADE abuser of Copenhagen (insert your own period of active stupidity here). I also know that those craves come on like a SOB and are absolutely brutal the first few days/week or so. But I also know that even though it may feel like it at the time, nicotine withdrawal has never actually killed anyone (at least I can't find any evidence of it on the internet, and I have searched MANY hours to find some shred of evidence).

You see, during those XXXXX years you have been ingesting enough poison (nicotine) to kill a lab rat on a daily basis, your brain built up a serious network of dopamine receptors to take all that in. When you begin a quit, all a sudden you're no longer feeding those receptors. Think of them as crazed little beasty-bastards jumping up and down inside your brain housing group as they are slowly dying of starvation. They will do ANYTHING to get you to give them their 'fix'. That's what nicotine withdrawal is like (or at least it was for me). But they will eventually die off. Trust me.

If you have truly decided you're DONE, come on back, find the (Month) '17 HOF (hall of Fame) group, and post up your day's quit. I'll support you (along with many others on this site). I am not a psychologist, and have no clue why promising a bunch of strangers (at least initially they are strangers) on an internet forum that you won't use nicotine today works, but it does (assuming you're a man of integrity and you keep your promises). On the site, we do this daily, then keep that promise for 24 hours. Rinse. Repeat. We also trade phone numbers and build a web of accountability so that if you forget or need someone to talk you off the ledge, you have support. If you want to talk about it before you commit, my phone number's 123-456-7890.

I hope you don't find this email too strong. I promise I'm not an internet stalker. I live a good ways from (state), so you won't have to worry about me showing up unannounced!! If you want to quit, you can quit. KTC can help. I know, because today is three years I haven't had any nicotine, and it is wonderful. I only wish I had done it when I was your age. Ok....ball is now firmly in your court. If I don't hear back from you, I will only assume you have decided you don't really want to quit, and will leave you alone.

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Maybe there's a way to even automate this where active quitters can type in their name and hit "send" and the system will generate and email the "almost quitter"? Open to your thoughts and suggestions on this proposal.

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Re: General Discussion - 2017
« Reply #364 on: August 07, 2017, 04:49:00 PM »
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1 week in, and no nicotine. I have posted roll every day and avoided any and all cravings. Thanx all for the support
bravo! way to go!
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Re: General Discussion - 2017
« Reply #363 on: August 07, 2017, 12:31:00 PM »
1 week in, and no nicotine. I have posted roll every day and avoided any and all cravings. Thanx all for the support
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Re: General Discussion - 2017
« Reply #362 on: August 04, 2017, 08:19:00 PM »
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Joined the site back in January 2012, never frequented or posted roll call. Forgot about the site. Quit here and there over the last 5.5 years. Even quit for 14 months at one point. I see the same comments/excuses I have used for why I kept going back. The links to this site just started showing up in my FB feed for some reason in the last 2 weeks. I've chewed regularly (read as bought my own) for the last 9 years, but chewed when it was offered since 8th grade or so back in 1984. Sitting at works dropping the full can plus a dips worth in the garbage right now, the rest of the roll once I get home. $14 and change down the drain: think cold turkey is the only way, and how I did it for 14 months. Can't say I will be here daily to post roll call, but I'm done with the can. No sores or concerns, clear mouth cancer screens at the dentist for the last 3 years, it is just time. Really only have 1 or 2 friends that chew when I am around them (and that is pretty infrequently) so no big push to get back on it. Good luck to all!
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Can't say I will be here daily to post roll call
Why not? You joined this site 5.5 years ago and have been trying to quit ever since. That's 5.5 years of wasted money, time, health and freedom. It sounds like your approach is no different than what it has been since 2012, why would you expect the outcome to be different?

If you really, absolutely want to quit, have to quit, will do anything to quit, why wouldn't you commit to posting roll? It takes significantly less time than dipping, it's significantly more effective than trying to quit on your own (as your track record confirms) and it's free. If you really want to make this happen, why aren't you doing everything in your power to accomplish that? If you're not that serious and not sure that you want to stay quit, then just save yourself the headache and keep dipping, because you can't succeed at this half assed.

I'm not trying to badger you, but do want to understand where you're coming from.
69Franx......half-assed effort only gives half assed results......
B-I-N-G-O

Go all in or go home bro

So 'nothing has worked in the past' 'always found my way back' sounds like 100% of the people in here. Its time to do something different 69. What you've done in the past doesn't seem to effective.

Posting my daily quit promise has kept me quit for 716 days from 25+ years of dip madness.

Ready to be a bad ass quitter?
Ready to join us, ALL-IN?
Your quit is right here waiting for you, will you grab it?

I sure hope so
JB65, thanx for your supportive message. My intro may not have been exactly what I wanted to say. The main point was that the FB postings are what brought me back here, especially the one about "you did not get to our web page by mistake" or whatever it was exactly. My statement on not calling roll everyday was obviously not well informed. I posted without really checking out the site and beginner info. Your words were supportive, understanding and I am grabbing my quit, over 24 hours in now, with no issues yet but I know it will come soon. Thanx again
The issues will come and go, but if you abide the spirit of this place (Accountability + Brotherhood = Success), you will be able to handle it. This place doesn't teach you how to get rid of your addiction because (at least so far) that's impossible. What it does is give you the tools to handle any situation that your addiction can put you in. That's why this place is different and why it works. There's an ancient Lao Tzu saying: Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day, teach a man to fish and he'll eat for a lifetime. This place teaches you how to fish when it comes to your addiction to nicotine.

The tools are there for the taking, but you have to buy in all the way. ALL the way. EVERY day. It's worked for me 754 days in a row. It'll work for you too if you let it.
Glad to see you post roll brother! This really will keep you quit if you value your word
U got this Franx! We are with you brother 30,000 strong!!!
Actually, 30,000 is not quite accurate. Based on the number of active posters on the first three pages (of 612 'active' quitters), there's about 600-700 who are "strong" in the quit. The rest either never were or have faltered in the faith. Just pointing out the obvious....
I like to think that there are many "alumni" who have come and gone and stayed quit.
Hope you're right PKY.....but then again, hope is not a method....

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Re: General Discussion - 2017
« Reply #361 on: August 04, 2017, 06:41:00 PM »
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Joined the site back in January 2012, never frequented or posted roll call. Forgot about the site. Quit here and there over the last 5.5 years. Even quit for 14 months at one point. I see the same comments/excuses I have used for why I kept going back. The links to this site just started showing up in my FB feed for some reason in the last 2 weeks. I've chewed regularly (read as bought my own) for the last 9 years, but chewed when it was offered since 8th grade or so back in 1984. Sitting at works dropping the full can plus a dips worth in the garbage right now, the rest of the roll once I get home. $14 and change down the drain: think cold turkey is the only way, and how I did it for 14 months. Can't say I will be here daily to post roll call, but I'm done with the can. No sores or concerns, clear mouth cancer screens at the dentist for the last 3 years, it is just time. Really only have 1 or 2 friends that chew when I am around them (and that is pretty infrequently) so no big push to get back on it. Good luck to all!
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Can't say I will be here daily to post roll call
Why not? You joined this site 5.5 years ago and have been trying to quit ever since. That's 5.5 years of wasted money, time, health and freedom. It sounds like your approach is no different than what it has been since 2012, why would you expect the outcome to be different?

If you really, absolutely want to quit, have to quit, will do anything to quit, why wouldn't you commit to posting roll? It takes significantly less time than dipping, it's significantly more effective than trying to quit on your own (as your track record confirms) and it's free. If you really want to make this happen, why aren't you doing everything in your power to accomplish that? If you're not that serious and not sure that you want to stay quit, then just save yourself the headache and keep dipping, because you can't succeed at this half assed.

I'm not trying to badger you, but do want to understand where you're coming from.
69Franx......half-assed effort only gives half assed results......
B-I-N-G-O

Go all in or go home bro

So 'nothing has worked in the past' 'always found my way back' sounds like 100% of the people in here. Its time to do something different 69. What you've done in the past doesn't seem to effective.

Posting my daily quit promise has kept me quit for 716 days from 25+ years of dip madness.

Ready to be a bad ass quitter?
Ready to join us, ALL-IN?
Your quit is right here waiting for you, will you grab it?

I sure hope so
JB65, thanx for your supportive message. My intro may not have been exactly what I wanted to say. The main point was that the FB postings are what brought me back here, especially the one about "you did not get to our web page by mistake" or whatever it was exactly. My statement on not calling roll everyday was obviously not well informed. I posted without really checking out the site and beginner info. Your words were supportive, understanding and I am grabbing my quit, over 24 hours in now, with no issues yet but I know it will come soon. Thanx again
The issues will come and go, but if you abide the spirit of this place (Accountability + Brotherhood = Success), you will be able to handle it. This place doesn't teach you how to get rid of your addiction because (at least so far) that's impossible. What it does is give you the tools to handle any situation that your addiction can put you in. That's why this place is different and why it works. There's an ancient Lao Tzu saying: Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day, teach a man to fish and he'll eat for a lifetime. This place teaches you how to fish when it comes to your addiction to nicotine.

The tools are there for the taking, but you have to buy in all the way. ALL the way. EVERY day. It's worked for me 754 days in a row. It'll work for you too if you let it.
Glad to see you post roll brother! This really will keep you quit if you value your word
U got this Franx! We are with you brother 30,000 strong!!!
Actually, 30,000 is not quite accurate. Based on the number of active posters on the first three pages (of 612 'active' quitters), there's about 600-700 who are "strong" in the quit. The rest either never were or have faltered in the faith. Just pointing out the obvious....
I like to think that there are many "alumni" who have come and gone and stayed quit.

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Re: General Discussion - 2017
« Reply #360 on: August 04, 2017, 06:08:00 PM »
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Joined the site back in January 2012, never frequented or posted roll call. Forgot about the site. Quit here and there over the last 5.5 years. Even quit for 14 months at one point. I see the same comments/excuses I have used for why I kept going back. The links to this site just started showing up in my FB feed for some reason in the last 2 weeks. I've chewed regularly (read as bought my own) for the last 9 years, but chewed when it was offered since 8th grade or so back in 1984. Sitting at works dropping the full can plus a dips worth in the garbage right now, the rest of the roll once I get home. $14 and change down the drain: think cold turkey is the only way, and how I did it for 14 months. Can't say I will be here daily to post roll call, but I'm done with the can. No sores or concerns, clear mouth cancer screens at the dentist for the last 3 years, it is just time. Really only have 1 or 2 friends that chew when I am around them (and that is pretty infrequently) so no big push to get back on it. Good luck to all!
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Can't say I will be here daily to post roll call
Why not? You joined this site 5.5 years ago and have been trying to quit ever since. That's 5.5 years of wasted money, time, health and freedom. It sounds like your approach is no different than what it has been since 2012, why would you expect the outcome to be different?

If you really, absolutely want to quit, have to quit, will do anything to quit, why wouldn't you commit to posting roll? It takes significantly less time than dipping, it's significantly more effective than trying to quit on your own (as your track record confirms) and it's free. If you really want to make this happen, why aren't you doing everything in your power to accomplish that? If you're not that serious and not sure that you want to stay quit, then just save yourself the headache and keep dipping, because you can't succeed at this half assed.

I'm not trying to badger you, but do want to understand where you're coming from.
69Franx......half-assed effort only gives half assed results......
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Go all in or go home bro

So 'nothing has worked in the past' 'always found my way back' sounds like 100% of the people in here. Its time to do something different 69. What you've done in the past doesn't seem to effective.

Posting my daily quit promise has kept me quit for 716 days from 25+ years of dip madness.

Ready to be a bad ass quitter?
Ready to join us, ALL-IN?
Your quit is right here waiting for you, will you grab it?

I sure hope so
JB65, thanx for your supportive message. My intro may not have been exactly what I wanted to say. The main point was that the FB postings are what brought me back here, especially the one about "you did not get to our web page by mistake" or whatever it was exactly. My statement on not calling roll everyday was obviously not well informed. I posted without really checking out the site and beginner info. Your words were supportive, understanding and I am grabbing my quit, over 24 hours in now, with no issues yet but I know it will come soon. Thanx again
The issues will come and go, but if you abide the spirit of this place (Accountability + Brotherhood = Success), you will be able to handle it. This place doesn't teach you how to get rid of your addiction because (at least so far) that's impossible. What it does is give you the tools to handle any situation that your addiction can put you in. That's why this place is different and why it works. There's an ancient Lao Tzu saying: Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day, teach a man to fish and he'll eat for a lifetime. This place teaches you how to fish when it comes to your addiction to nicotine.

The tools are there for the taking, but you have to buy in all the way. ALL the way. EVERY day. It's worked for me 754 days in a row. It'll work for you too if you let it.
Glad to see you post roll brother! This really will keep you quit if you value your word
U got this Franx! We are with you brother 30,000 strong!!!
Actually, 30,000 is not quite accurate. Based on the number of active posters on the first three pages (of 612 'active' quitters), there's about 600-700 who are "strong" in the quit. The rest either never were or have faltered in the faith. Just pointing out the obvious....

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Re: General Discussion - 2017
« Reply #359 on: August 04, 2017, 01:58:00 PM »
4 days in and going strong. Yesterday was not fun, nor the headache I had upon waking this morning. Thanx to all that post for your support
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