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Re: this time is for real
« Reply #325 on: September 14, 2015, 09:18:00 PM »
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Sounds like she has a hard time letting things go. I know I do too, but my wife helps me with it by simply saying "how does "X" affect you today?". The answer is always "it doesn't", and she replys "so drop it"...........and I do. Not sure if that would work for you, us grudge holders can be hard to communicate with.
I have let this issue of "what I am doing to save my marriage" go. I have no control over the wife's thinking or her willingness to talk. Now I am focused on me and my daughters. I have to take care of the three of us and do what's best. If she still wants to be part of it then awesome, if not that is on her, not me.
Great progress dude. Well done.
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Re: this time is for real
« Reply #324 on: September 14, 2015, 08:59:00 PM »
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Sounds like she has a hard time letting things go. I know I do too, but my wife helps me with it by simply saying "how does "X" affect you today?". The answer is always "it doesn't", and she replys "so drop it"...........and I do. Not sure if that would work for you, us grudge holders can be hard to communicate with.
I have let this issue of "what I am doing to save my marriage" go. I have no control over the wife's thinking or her willingness to talk. Now I am focused on me and my daughters. I have to take care of the three of us and do what's best. If she still wants to be part of it then awesome, if not that is on her, not me.
Great progress dude. Well done.

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Re: this time is for real
« Reply #323 on: September 14, 2015, 05:47:00 PM »
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Sounds like she has a hard time letting things go. I know I do too, but my wife helps me with it by simply saying "how does "X" affect you today?". The answer is always "it doesn't", and she replys "so drop it"...........and I do. Not sure if that would work for you, us grudge holders can be hard to communicate with.
I have let this issue of "what I am doing to save my marriage" go. I have no control over the wife's thinking or her willingness to talk. Now I am focused on me and my daughters. I have to take care of the three of us and do what's best. If she still wants to be part of it then awesome, if not that is on her, not me.
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Re: this time is for real
« Reply #322 on: September 14, 2015, 09:46:00 AM »
Sounds like she has a hard time letting things go. I know I do too, but my wife helps me with it by simply saying "how does "X" affect you today?". The answer is always "it doesn't", and she replys "so drop it"...........and I do. Not sure if that would work for you, us grudge holders can be hard to communicate with.
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Re: this time is for real
« Reply #321 on: September 13, 2015, 08:29:00 AM »
I have read the post by 'dromes brother about yesterday +1, several times. It always stands apart. About 2 days ago it dawned on me. Through out my quit, when I log on to live chat in the evening; was asked how it was going I would always respond "made it another +1." That +1 is another notch in the belt, but it is just as important to remember how far you have come. So put them together...duh 'facepalm''

So I have taken 'dromes proflic yesterday +1 and have it the Candy Man's spin.... (9/13/15) 418 +1's

I have done this one day at a time (+1) 418 times. I plan on repeating this process for as long as the good Lord keeps me here.
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Re: this time is for real
« Reply #320 on: September 10, 2015, 07:09:00 AM »
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300th post in my intro.

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Re: this time is for real
« Reply #319 on: September 09, 2015, 10:40:00 PM »
300th post in my intro.

'coolshades

Refill please? Tap that keg of Kool Aid and pound it. No matter the day a cup of KTC Kool Aid hydrates the soul.
There are no circumstances in which using nicotine will improve the outcome.

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Re: this time is for real
« Reply #318 on: September 08, 2015, 02:01:00 AM »
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Hey man. Do you want to save your marriage? It's all about honesty. You have to drop the wall that is between you and your wife. What is your wall?
My wall?
Fear of loss.
Fear that she will take everything I value from me.
Why doesn't she like you anymore? Why has she clammed up? Did you quit communicating with her? Did you quit being open and honest with her at some point? When did the problems start? The "wall" is the barrier in your communication with her. What initiated that wall? You say it's your fear of her taking your kids away from you. I think you may have put up a wall at some point and quit being open and honest with her. I'm just throwing out ideas.
Communication never really exisited. We never were taught how from either of our parents. We have a chance to learn how now.

She avoids problems it is how she learned how to do and deal with things. I used to do the same then I quit and had to face the demons head on. She does not want to. She needs to be forced to, just like I had to.

I want to work on me and us as parents. But doing so forces her out of her nice blameless boxes.

Hell I would sign a divorce paper today IF it guaranteed that she would go and activity work on her. She needs to figure out these things on her own. I cant fight that fight for her justnwith her. But if we seperate or get divorced with out that piece she is allowed to avoid it. So it isn't about me winning at this point, she needs help to be a better mother and person, but her friends and family let her avoid it. I am the only one that can get her to face it.
I'm noticing you seem to put most of the blame on her. Is it possible youve been ignoring her for a spell and she feels slighted? Just throwing out ideas here. I'm not a therapist, but I've gone through a recent marital rough patch lately. I was able to repair it by recognizing damage that I have done. Things have gotten real good. So maybe I'm projecting. Anyway, it does sound a tad to me like you are putting most of the blame on her. If you want to save the marriage you need to examine yourself first and look at it from her viewpoint. Have you been emotionally absent during your nicotine recovery process? If so, it's time to fix it. Just saying. And again, I only say this because it's been my experience.
GHC she came out and put 100% of the blame on me. She deflects the conversation and attempts at counseling. She has said that she has been going through the motions for the better part of 2 years. She opened a bank account because she thought I would take the money from her.

I know that I seem to be putting the blame on her, but she needs to own up to part of this. It takes two to break a relationship.

Why would anyone avoid eye contact in conversation or a session with a counselor (1:1) with me not there? She gets pissed because I wont accept her reasons for the marriage being over.

To review here they are:
1. I got black out drunk at our wedding (12/2006)
2. Lied about my chewing (I am quit 412 days ~ 9/7/15)
3. I made a comment/joke about her weight to her best friend (1/2013)
4. I do not have a job or income (Start tomorrow 9/8/15 as a Sales Manager at a Toyota Dealership)

So I know that these ^^^ put blame on me alone. So yes I am saying she is at fault for something, what I don't know.

Man it sounds like things are coming together for you! Congrats on the new job sir - I look forward to some great updates!

As far as your current wife - you have a lot of good going on... Don't let any negativity derail this progress keep close to the kids. And live life as a winner.

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Re: this time is for real
« Reply #317 on: September 07, 2015, 11:48:00 PM »
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Hey man. Do you want to save your marriage? It's all about honesty. You have to drop the wall that is between you and your wife. What is your wall?
My wall?
Fear of loss.
Fear that she will take everything I value from me.
Why doesn't she like you anymore? Why has she clammed up? Did you quit communicating with her? Did you quit being open and honest with her at some point? When did the problems start? The "wall" is the barrier in your communication with her. What initiated that wall? You say it's your fear of her taking your kids away from you. I think you may have put up a wall at some point and quit being open and honest with her. I'm just throwing out ideas.
Communication never really exisited. We never were taught how from either of our parents. We have a chance to learn how now.

She avoids problems it is how she learned how to do and deal with things. I used to do the same then I quit and had to face the demons head on. She does not want to. She needs to be forced to, just like I had to.

I want to work on me and us as parents. But doing so forces her out of her nice blameless boxes.

Hell I would sign a divorce paper today IF it guaranteed that she would go and activity work on her. She needs to figure out these things on her own. I cant fight that fight for her justnwith her. But if we seperate or get divorced with out that piece she is allowed to avoid it. So it isn't about me winning at this point, she needs help to be a better mother and person, but her friends and family let her avoid it. I am the only one that can get her to face it.
I'm noticing you seem to put most of the blame on her. Is it possible youve been ignoring her for a spell and she feels slighted? Just throwing out ideas here. I'm not a therapist, but I've gone through a recent marital rough patch lately. I was able to repair it by recognizing damage that I have done. Things have gotten real good. So maybe I'm projecting. Anyway, it does sound a tad to me like you are putting most of the blame on her. If you want to save the marriage you need to examine yourself first and look at it from her viewpoint. Have you been emotionally absent during your nicotine recovery process? If so, it's time to fix it. Just saying. And again, I only say this because it's been my experience.
GHC she came out and put 100% of the blame on me. She deflects the conversation and attempts at counseling. She has said that she has been going through the motions for the better part of 2 years. She opened a bank account because she thought I would take the money from her.

I know that I seem to be putting the blame on her, but she needs to own up to part of this. It takes two to break a relationship.

Why would anyone avoid eye contact in conversation or a session with a counselor (1:1) with me not there? She gets pissed because I wont accept her reasons for the marriage being over.

To review here they are:
1. I got black out drunk at our wedding (12/2006)
2. Lied about my chewing (I am quit 412 days ~ 9/7/15)
3. I made a comment/joke about her weight to her best friend (1/2013)
4. I do not have a job or income (Start tomorrow 9/8/15 as a Sales Manager at a Toyota Dealership)

So I know that these ^^^ put blame on me alone. So yes I am saying she is at fault for something, what I don't know.
There are no circumstances in which using nicotine will improve the outcome.

My journey. The best part it is not over yet.

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Re: this time is for real
« Reply #316 on: September 06, 2015, 11:06:00 PM »
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Hey man. Do you want to save your marriage? It's all about honesty. You have to drop the wall that is between you and your wife. What is your wall?
My wall?
Fear of loss.
Fear that she will take everything I value from me.
Why doesn't she like you anymore? Why has she clammed up? Did you quit communicating with her? Did you quit being open and honest with her at some point? When did the problems start? The "wall" is the barrier in your communication with her. What initiated that wall? You say it's your fear of her taking your kids away from you. I think you may have put up a wall at some point and quit being open and honest with her. I'm just throwing out ideas.
Communication never really exisited. We never were taught how from either of our parents. We have a chance to learn how now.

She avoids problems it is how she learned how to do and deal with things. I used to do the same then I quit and had to face the demons head on. She does not want to. She needs to be forced to, just like I had to.

I want to work on me and us as parents. But doing so forces her out of her nice blameless boxes.

Hell I would sign a divorce paper today IF it guaranteed that she would go and activity work on her. She needs to figure out these things on her own. I cant fight that fight for her justnwith her. But if we seperate or get divorced with out that piece she is allowed to avoid it. So it isn't about me winning at this point, she needs help to be a better mother and person, but her friends and family let her avoid it. I am the only one that can get her to face it.
I'm noticing you seem to put most of the blame on her. Is it possible youve been ignoring her for a spell and she feels slighted? Just throwing out ideas here. I'm not a therapist, but I've gone through a recent marital rough patch lately. I was able to repair it by recognizing damage that I have done. Things have gotten real good. So maybe I'm projecting. Anyway, it does sound a tad to me like you are putting most of the blame on her. If you want to save the marriage you need to examine yourself first and look at it from her viewpoint. Have you been emotionally absent during your nicotine recovery process? If so, it's time to fix it. Just saying. And again, I only say this because it's been my experience.
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Re: this time is for real
« Reply #315 on: September 06, 2015, 10:01:00 AM »
I see your point but you can't continue to bring yourself down because of her,you must learn to live again, right now this second, what's tomorrow hold for you and what are you gonna do to change it if you don't like it. You and only you control your destiny.
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Re: this time is for real
« Reply #314 on: September 06, 2015, 09:52:00 AM »
Exodus 23 : 5 - If you see the donkey of someone who hates you fallen down under its load, do not leave it there; be sure you help him with it.
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Re: this time is for real
« Reply #313 on: September 06, 2015, 07:33:00 AM »
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Hey man. Do you want to save your marriage? It's all about honesty. You have to drop the wall that is between you and your wife. What is your wall?
My wall?
Fear of loss.
Fear that she will take everything I value from me.
Why doesn't she like you anymore? Why has she clammed up? Did you quit communicating with her? Did you quit being open and honest with her at some point? When did the problems start? The "wall" is the barrier in your communication with her. What initiated that wall? You say it's your fear of her taking your kids away from you. I think you may have put up a wall at some point and quit being open and honest with her. I'm just throwing out ideas.
Communication never really exisited. We never were taught how from either of our parents. We have a chance to learn how now.

She avoids problems it is how she learned how to do and deal with things. I used to do the same then I quit and had to face the demons head on. She does not want to. She needs to be forced to, just like I had to.

I want to work on me and us as parents. But doing so forces her out of her nice blameless boxes.

Hell I would sign a divorce paper today IF it guaranteed that she would go and activity work on her. She needs to figure out these things on her own. I cant fight that fight for her justnwith her. But if we seperate or get divorced with out that piece she is allowed to avoid it. So it isn't about me winning at this point, she needs help to be a better mother and person, but her friends and family let her avoid it. I am the only one that can get her to face it.
There are no circumstances in which using nicotine will improve the outcome.

My journey. The best part it is not over yet.

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Re: this time is for real
« Reply #312 on: September 04, 2015, 09:54:00 PM »
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Hey man. Do you want to save your marriage? It's all about honesty. You have to drop the wall that is between you and your wife. What is your wall?
My wall?
Fear of loss.
Fear that she will take everything I value from me.
Why doesn't she like you anymore? Why has she clammed up? Did you quit communicating with her? Did you quit being open and honest with her at some point? When did the problems start? The "wall" is the barrier in your communication with her. What initiated that wall? You say it's your fear of her taking your kids away from you. I think you may have put up a wall at some point and quit being open and honest with her. I'm just throwing out ideas.
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Re: this time is for real
« Reply #311 on: September 04, 2015, 07:16:00 PM »
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