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Offline dchogs

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Re: Hello, I'm new here, and feel totally stuck
« Reply #62 on: August 18, 2011, 09:30:00 PM »
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Going through a rough time. To those of you whom I lashed out at, I'm sorry.

This has been, quite possibly, the most bittersweet month in my entire life.

I'm back here, trying to make sense of everything, and hoping that this site can remain the only constant in my life for right now (apart from work, the mindless drudgery that it is...)

Thanks for supporting me.
I'm with you Radar. Apology accepted. The Bitch sometimes causes us to act out of character by saying and doing shit we regret. That is how being an addict is at times. Just post roll, take it day by day and keep your word, as I will do to you.
I'm with you too.

You are indeed correct. No matter what life throws your way....if you hold true to KTC and what we do...every person here will hold true to you...willing to walk with you through whatever situation you encounter.
No worries, radar. If you can't no nuclear on your KTC brothers and sisters, who else is there. As long as you post roll and keep your word, you're good in my book.

If you need an anonymous ear, feel free to pm. Don't worry, I'm a terrible listener with a bad memory. I coulda been a priest 'cept I like the fairer sex.
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Re: Hello, I'm new here, and feel totally stuck
« Reply #61 on: August 18, 2011, 09:23:00 PM »
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Going through a rough time. To those of you whom I lashed out at, I'm sorry.

This has been, quite possibly, the most bittersweet month in my entire life.

I'm back here, trying to make sense of everything, and hoping that this site can remain the only constant in my life for right now (apart from work, the mindless drudgery that it is...)

Thanks for supporting me.
I'm with you Radar. Apology accepted. The Bitch sometimes causes us to act out of character by saying and doing shit we regret. That is how being an addict is at times. Just post roll, take it day by day and keep your word, as I will do to you.
I'm with you too.

You are indeed correct. No matter what life throws your way....if you hold true to KTC and what we do...every person here will hold true to you...willing to walk with you through whatever situation you encounter.
Plenty of folks to support quitters in here Radar. Hang tough brother. You should give yourself a pat on the back for doing this. Keep it up.

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Re: Hello, I'm new here, and feel totally stuck
« Reply #60 on: August 18, 2011, 09:05:00 PM »
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Going through a rough time. To those of you whom I lashed out at, I'm sorry.

This has been, quite possibly, the most bittersweet month in my entire life.

I'm back here, trying to make sense of everything, and hoping that this site can remain the only constant in my life for right now (apart from work, the mindless drudgery that it is...)

Thanks for supporting me.
I'm with you Radar. Apology accepted. The Bitch sometimes causes us to act out of character by saying and doing shit we regret. That is how being an addict is at times. Just post roll, take it day by day and keep your word, as I will do to you.
I'm with you too.

You are indeed correct. No matter what life throws your way....if you hold true to KTC and what we do...every person here will hold true to you...willing to walk with you through whatever situation you encounter.
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Re: Hello, I'm new here, and feel totally stuck
« Reply #59 on: August 18, 2011, 08:44:00 PM »
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Going through a rough time. To those of you whom I lashed out at, I'm sorry.

This has been, quite possibly, the most bittersweet month in my entire life.

I'm back here, trying to make sense of everything, and hoping that this site can remain the only constant in my life for right now (apart from work, the mindless drudgery that it is...)

Thanks for supporting me.
I'm with you Radar. Apology accepted. The Bitch sometimes causes us to act out of character by saying and doing shit we regret. That is how being an addict is at times. Just post roll, take it day by day and keep your word, as I will do to you.
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Re: Hello, I'm new here, and feel totally stuck
« Reply #58 on: August 18, 2011, 07:09:00 PM »
Going through a rough time. To those of you whom I lashed out at, I'm sorry.

This has been, quite possibly, the most bittersweet month in my entire life.

I'm back here, trying to make sense of everything, and hoping that this site can remain the only constant in my life for right now (apart from work, the mindless drudgery that it is...)

Thanks for supporting me.
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Re: Hello, I'm new here, and feel totally stuck
« Reply #57 on: August 01, 2011, 02:34:00 PM »
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To have so much controversy over something like this makes me seriously question both the power dynamic of an organisation like this insofar that it is determined that a strict set of rules is to be followed. If said rules are not followed, that person shall be scorned until they either leave or acquiesce to the bidding of the public therein.

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Am I wrong here? Please tell me I am.
You're right. And wrong. The vitriol you were subjected to is not merely because you said "I might not be able to post roll because...." It's because you already caved once before - the previous weekend - and very early on in your quit. You were 3 days on... caved... then came back and expected, after day 7, that it would be OK to take a break. And I get that you weren't looking for a hall pass, so don't attack me on that. For us, it seemed clear that you didn't appreciate the importance and value of posting roll EVERY day.

I haven't been here long enough to know all of the subtle nuances of the site. But I would submit that if you had been on day 10, posting every day from day one without having a cave on your resume, and disappeared for the weekend... well... you probably wouldn't have gotten killed the way you did. It would have been noticed... but you probably wouldn't have gotten killed.

It's all a matter of perspective. From your perspective, it's your life and you can do whatever the hell you want - post roll, don't post roll, it's up to you. You might even feel it's not important. And that's your perspective and this is your quit so that's what really matters.

From our perspective, once you came to this site and said you were quit... once you came back to this site after you caved and promised you wouldn't do it again... you were someone who needed perhaps more attention than some of your other November quit brothers and sisters. You caved once before, you were showing signs of another cave coming on very quickly, and we - in our horseshit and testosterone driven way - tried to save you from that cave. Perhaps we were wrong. Perhaps you were. It doesn're REALLY matter at this point.

Somehow you manageed to post roll on saturday. And on Sunday. And today. So.... I guess the ends justifies the means in this situation?

I'm proud to be quit with you Radar.
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Re: Hello, I'm new here, and feel totally stuck
« Reply #56 on: August 01, 2011, 12:07:00 AM »
Okay I'll bite...

Radar you got bumped. gsenk didn't check to see if he bumped anyone. You guys should always make a point to check as there are so many folks in your group. That wasn't intentional.

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Everything, as we saw, exploded. I lost my temper, which, to be honest, I feel I am entitled to do as I see fit. That is the ONLY thing I will ever feel that I am entitled to, as long as I am alive.
-You're entitled to a lot more than that my friend. But in this place with the stage of withdrawal that you and your quit brothers are in, rage is at everyone's finger tip. There are probably better ways to communicate stuff at this point.

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Why? Well, simply - as I see it, I am required until day 100 to post roll on this site, every day. I am somehow required to be in contact with someone from this site, every day, until that point. Failure to do so is an automatic accusation of a cave, planned or otherwise, scorn, criticism and horrendous cynicism. It is an unheard of possibility, within the circles here, that someone should not consider that they may not be able to contact someone, or post.
-Are you required to post roll? I had to think about this for a second. The way I see it is the program works. Its simple...

1. Post roll everyday
2. Keep your word
3. Repeat

The level of support that a quitter gets is tremendous. We all say it but you can't buy this kind of support. Strangers willing to answer your call any time of day. Meet with you. Talk you through the shit. To warrant that level of support, folks need to be convinced that a quitter is doing absolutely everything in their power to quit. Everything. And that most certainly includes posting roll. I really believe everyone here only wants to see every other brother/sister successful in their quit. I believe that. I have some thoughts on why but I won't spew that here. The other side of the coin is YOU should want to post roll everyday. Its not a take it or leave it kind of thing. Its Radar saying "I quit today" and you and other folks respecting that. You put your name down and stick to it. You have conquered. That's what you should get out of that. You put down your word and stuck to it all day. You should be clawing at the walls to put your word down, telling us and the nic bitch that you are not owned. That's where the power is brother. Right there. If you believe in that reality, you are quit.

Want to inspire confidence in your approach and secure peace of mind for yourself? See Dante's Introduction. That right there is how its done. That's a guy doing everything he can to quit. I don't know Dante. I have never spoken to him. I have never chatted with him(that I recall). I don't think he has my number. If he called out of the blue and said "Its Dante" that man has my attention. His quit would become my priority because I'm convinced he's giving it his best.

Dante - sorry to point the spot light at you if unwanted. I just like the way you quit.

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Re: Hello, I'm new here, and feel totally stuck
« Reply #55 on: July 31, 2011, 11:20:00 AM »
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Re: Hello, I'm new here, and feel totally stuck
« Reply #54 on: July 31, 2011, 08:53:00 AM »
you people are all fucking nuts!!!!!

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Re: Hello, I'm new here, and feel totally stuck
« Reply #53 on: July 30, 2011, 09:36:00 PM »
I've just realised something. That whole rant I went on was a setup. (I was going to post this in the October quit group, but I didn't want to choke it with something that most people probably aren't interested in reading anyway.)

All of it. Here's why:

I posted roll very early, as I've been doing. Went about my business, decided to check and see who was posting and their messages next to the day number. It helps to motivate me, and I'm interested in how others are feeling. Call it Schadenfreude if you like, but it helps move me along.

So I notice, that my name isn't in the list. Huh? How could that be, I know I posted roll.

Lo and behold, I had, at 7:58am. At 8:01, gsenk posted roll. Maybe he had to step away, but we were both posting at the same time. His post didn't have my info in it, as he started the copypasta before 7:58. Cosmic accident? Must be. Or is it?

Maybe I'm going through another phase of withdrawal, but I can't help but wonder if this is one way for people to feed off each other. Make it look like I didn't post, or anyone for that matter, and then the rest of the herd jumps on that person's back, even though they DID actually post roll earlier in the day.

So, part II: I come round in the afternoon, re-post roll, and note I might not be able to post right on the money. I may be late, or may not be within the ability to contact someone to post for me.

Everything, as we saw, exploded. I lost my temper, which, to be honest, I feel I am entitled to do as I see fit. That is the ONLY thing I will ever feel that I am entitled to, as long as I am alive.

Now, was I wrong in exploding the way I did? Yes and no. Yes in that, well, to be honest, nothing made sense, the wiring was shot, and I don't text people when I'm angry. I fucking call them, and I tell them what I feel. I don't like sounding like a whiny little cunt, so I try to avoid that and go and do other constructive things instead. This time, I blew my stack.

Why? Well, simply - as I see it, I am required until day 100 to post roll on this site, every day. I am somehow required to be in contact with someone from this site, every day, until that point. Failure to do so is an automatic accusation of a cave, planned or otherwise, scorn, criticism and horrendous cynicism. It is an unheard of possibility, within the circles here, that someone should not consider that they may not be able to contact someone, or post.

I take issue with that. For several reasons. Now that I'm finally not in so much pain, I'd like to elucidate why. I was never asking for a hall pass from posting roll. I was never planning a cave, nor was I planning on anything other than, what I've previously stated.

To have so much controversy over something like this makes me seriously question both the power dynamic of an organisation like this insofar that it is determined that a strict set of rules is to be followed. If said rules are not followed, that person shall be scorned until they either leave or acquiesce to the bidding of the public therein.

What if I have an emergency, say an accident or I get stuck in an area without the ability to contact someone, will you automatically assume I've caved and given in to the Dark Mistress that haunts us all? Do you automatically think on day 2 of no roll post "Ohhhh radar, he finally gave in. He's in an alley in Albany with half a can of Grizzly in his mouth, all disheveled and full of cancer. We should pray for him, and make him feel like shit when he comes back to the site."

Am I wrong here? Please tell me I am.

So, allow me to clarify: I will post roll here as often as I can, and will contact someone in my list of numbers if I cannot. If I cannot contact someone, rest assured, at some point, I will have posted in roll that I will be going to X destination for Y amount of time and will return on Z date. It is my hobby to go back to nature, and once this summer house is underway (if all goes well) I may have blackout periods for a little while. I will note this in roll posts as succinctly as possible.

This is not a planned cave, nor a request to be excused from posting roll, this is being in an area of northeastern Québec with no internet or cellphone service for several days at a time. Once I'm finished, you all are more than welcome to come visit (assuming this even goes through. If I don't buy land, then I won't be up there for periods of time, ok?) I need to find land, get the money together and find out what regulations I am facing once I go to build on it.

Oh, and Bowman, come over here and say that.
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Re: Hello, I'm new here, and feel totally stuck
« Reply #52 on: July 28, 2011, 10:23:00 PM »
Alright, I just read through this thread and got seriously pissed off. I need to vent.

An Open Letter to Radar

Dear Radar,

Recently, you said:
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Problem is, I don't know if I'm going to change as a person, become someone different. This has been a part of my life for 16 years, and I fear losing myself more than death, if that makes any sense.
Hmm. Should you be worried about "losing yourself?" Let's take stock. From what I can garner, here are some of your features:

Features of Radar's Identity

(1) Weak
Evidence:
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I fucked up. Got drunk and smoked and dipped. On day 3.
(2) Stupid
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I was on the way home, bought a can and pack of smokes, intended to keep them as trophies. This was going to be my way of keeping myself in check. Either that, or symbolically, I'd go and throw them in my thinking pond, as a kind of send-off to this stupid addiction.
(3) Dishonest
Evidence:
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radar - Day 3. Hell on earth. But I'm still here. Nothing gets an Italian down.
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I fucked up. Got drunk and smoked and dipped. On day 3.
(4) Lack of caring about your dishonesty.
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My word is worthless to you? Why was it ever worth anything to begin with? This is the internet, not real life.
(5) Racist Asshole
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I don't want to be giving money to the fucking dot shops for filthy shit that's just going to kill me, and meanwhile they go back to India and live like kings while I'm in the fucking cancer ward.
[Note: This is especially hilarious. I'm sure all of the Indians that own convenience stores are living like kings. By exploiting whitey. Right.]
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Better to be a 'fag' than a deadbeat breeder with too many mouths to feed and a mommasita on the welfare dime, bitch!
Well, Radar, given the above features, I wouldn't be so worried about "losing yourself." It looks like "a new you" would do you (as well as everyone else) some real good.

All the best!

Bowman

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Re: Hello, I'm new here, and feel totally stuck
« Reply #51 on: July 28, 2011, 12:35:00 PM »
Nice work Radar. Focus on punting the ole nic down the block today. Tomorrow we reconstitute and go again...except you'll be one more day stronger and wiser = Papa's got a brand new bang!
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Re: Hello, I'm new here, and feel totally stuck
« Reply #50 on: July 28, 2011, 12:26:00 AM »
Nice work brother. One day at a time. Fight it one day at a time and we'll get down the path.

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Re: Hello, I'm new here, and feel totally stuck
« Reply #49 on: July 28, 2011, 12:21:00 AM »
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This week just keeps fucking with me, and I keep persevering!

Groin pull had me out of commission for most of today, to the point that I went to the hospital thinking I had a hernia or worse.

Fighting with the S.O.'s parents is always fun...

Nieces' birthday party this weekend, a balloon festival, and then I need to hustle my ass up to Montréal to be the office bitch for a few days up there.

I'm doing all of this, and living in immense pain, without any nic to turn to.

Fuck her, fucking dark mistress. I don't even have physical cravings now. It's all mental blocks, that I created for myself, that I'm breaking down. I was a weak little shit.

No more. Never again.

For those asking me to prove it, come to my house. I'll show you all the proof you want. I'm dong this, and thanks to GrizzlyKills21, Big Brother Jack, amgdenney, jmiah, Shadow, 30yraddict, Florida Luke, Cornwallace, kdbdavear, and on and on and on (sorry if I didn't name you, kinda out of it, these were the first that came to mind...) I'm still going.

Fuck yeah.
Phukin' right.

Show that bitch who is boss... feels good doesn't it.

Just a short time ago you couldn't last a couple hours without her, now you're curb stomping her!

Keep it up!
I am so proud of you radar. You are winning... keep it up!

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Re: Hello, I'm new here, and feel totally stuck
« Reply #48 on: July 28, 2011, 12:17:00 AM »
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This week just keeps fucking with me, and I keep persevering!

Groin pull had me out of commission for most of today, to the point that I went to the hospital thinking I had a hernia or worse.

Fighting with the S.O.'s parents is always fun...

Nieces' birthday party this weekend, a balloon festival, and then I need to hustle my ass up to Montréal to be the office bitch for a few days up there.

I'm doing all of this, and living in immense pain, without any nic to turn to.

Fuck her, fucking dark mistress. I don't even have physical cravings now. It's all mental blocks, that I created for myself, that I'm breaking down. I was a weak little shit.

No more. Never again.

For those asking me to prove it, come to my house. I'll show you all the proof you want. I'm dong this, and thanks to GrizzlyKills21, Big Brother Jack, amgdenney, jmiah, Shadow, 30yraddict, Florida Luke, Cornwallace, kdbdavear, and on and on and on (sorry if I didn't name you, kinda out of it, these were the first that came to mind...) I'm still going.

Fuck yeah.
Phukin' right.

Show that bitch who is boss... feels good doesn't it.

Just a short time ago you couldn't last a couple hours without her, now you're curb stomping her!

Keep it up!