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Re: Hello, I'm new here, and feel totally stuck
« Reply #32 on: July 23, 2011, 04:02:00 PM »
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I fucked up. Got drunk and smoked and dipped. On day 3. I was an ass. PM me for my number. Call me and berate me, please. Doesn't matter what time it is either. Threw everything in the dumpster, and cut up my debit card. I deserve any and all abuse I get. If you're in New Jersey, pm me, with a location, I'll come to you, and you can hit me in the face. I deserve it. If anything, I need it.

I let this group down. I'm sorry..... banghead.gif

Short term pleasure with the threat of death vs short term pain with long term health.

I hope you find your way. Use your resources.
Radar what exactly was your plan? How were you planning to defend yourself? This is your life. We can try to help but you got to use every fucking tool right at your fingertips to start. What was your plan? What IS your plan? If you don't have any, we can reserve a spot for you in the death pool. The water is a little colder but at least the company you'll have is quiet.
The plan WAS to take things one day at a time, and to try to stay cool when the rage/craves hit.

It takes a little for me to open up to people sometimes. I should have called or texted someone, should have said something in the chat. Instead, I went haywire, and here I am, back at day 1.

Plan now is, stay inside today. Not leaving the house. I have enough food to last me 3-4 days if need be. I cut up my debit card and don't have any cash.

Going to to swimming in the pool this afternoon, and will do a deep clean of the apartment when I get back. Just need to keep busy, busy, busy.
Hold on a second there Faildar...you bought tobacco products...as "trophies". A fresh quitter buying tobacco products? Knowing you have craves? That is the stupidest thing I have read on this site. You intended to consume that shit. You do not have the mindset to quit. And if you were using nicotine gum and posting roll by the grace of god you deserve a fucking ass kicking because your WORD is worthless.

Think about who you are lying to in all this. Who are you trying to keep the truth from? Me? Your October quit brothers? The vets that have put this framework together to help us? I quit today. I will quit tomorrow...this I KNOW. A little cocky? May be. But I'm pretty fucking confident because I WANT TO QUIT.

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Re: Hello, I'm new here, and feel totally stuck
« Reply #31 on: July 23, 2011, 11:18:00 AM »
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I fucked up. Got drunk and smoked and dipped. On day 3. I was an ass. PM me for my number. Call me and berate me, please. Doesn't matter what time it is either. Threw everything in the dumpster, and cut up my debit card. I deserve any and all abuse I get. If you're in New Jersey, pm me, with a location, I'll come to you, and you can hit me in the face. I deserve it. If anything, I need it.

I let this group down. I'm sorry..... banghead.gif

Short term pleasure with the threat of death vs short term pain with long term health.

I hope you find your way. Use your resources.
Radar what exactly was your plan? How were you planning to defend yourself? This is your life. We can try to help but you got to use every fucking tool right at your fingertips to start. What was your plan? What IS your plan? If you don't have any, we can reserve a spot for you in the death pool. The water is a little colder but at least the company you'll have is quiet.
The plan WAS to take things one day at a time, and to try to stay cool when the rage/craves hit.

It takes a little for me to open up to people sometimes. I should have called or texted someone, should have said something in the chat. Instead, I went haywire, and here I am, back at day 1.

Plan now is, stay inside today. Not leaving the house. I have enough food to last me 3-4 days if need be. I cut up my debit card and don't have any cash.

Going to to swimming in the pool this afternoon, and will do a deep clean of the apartment when I get back. Just need to keep busy, busy, busy.
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Re: Hello, I'm new here, and feel totally stuck
« Reply #30 on: July 23, 2011, 08:34:00 AM »
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I fucked up. Got drunk and smoked and dipped. On day 3. I was an ass. PM me for my number. Call me and berate me, please. Doesn't matter what time it is either. Threw everything in the dumpster, and cut up my debit card. I deserve any and all abuse I get. If you're in New Jersey, pm me, with a location, I'll come to you, and you can hit me in the face. I deserve it. If anything, I need it.

I let this group down. I'm sorry..... banghead.gif

Short term pleasure with the threat of death vs short term pain with long term health.

I hope you find your way. Use your resources.
Radar what exactly was your plan? How were you planning to defend yourself? This is your life. We can try to help but you got to use every fucking tool right at your fingertips to start. What was your plan? What IS your plan? If you don't have any, we can reserve a spot for you in the death pool. The water is a little colder but at least the company you'll have is quiet.

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Re: Hello, I'm new here, and feel totally stuck
« Reply #29 on: July 22, 2011, 04:22:00 PM »
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Radar, I am Quit with you today. You and I are definitely "young-guns" compared to most up in here. I'm 25, and our stories are not all that different. Started smoking young, traded smoking for dip, couldn't function without nic. If I can do this, you CAN do this.

As to whether or not you 'change' as a person I think that the simple answer is Yes. However, whoever said that change was a bad thing? In this case, its more of a peeling of the onion than a metamorphic change. Things will become apparent to you, about you, that you never knew. Nicotine use shielded us from many aspects of ourselves and reduces our abilities to 'cope' with reality, the cold and angry bitch she can be at times. You will now, through the journey of your Quit (Which incidentally is also the rest of your life), have the opportunity to develop a stronger mind, resolve, soul...whatever you want to call it. In a nutshell, you will emerge a better YOU.

Enjoy the ride brother, you got a longggg life ahead of you...if you buy in %100 to what we offer.

CC
I AM doing this. FUCK YEAH!

I'm edgy, sure, but I can almost feel the nic leaving me. I can feel the old me leaving.

There's something better in here, I know it.

Getting closer to end of work day. Then home. I will stay quit.

You guys rock, we're doing this together. It's fin'a be pizza and beer time soon my friends, one day at a time.

Fuck this hurts, but in a good way.
I'm glad to hear this RadarMan. I will be seeing you in the morning then.

Do something fun tonight. Something that you have wanted to do, but couldn't because of dip. Go somewhere new. Eat some good food. Buy a small new toy. Take apart a computer. Learn an instrument. ...Do whatever it takes to keep that shit out of your face ya hear punkin :)

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Re: Hello, I'm new here, and feel totally stuck
« Reply #28 on: July 22, 2011, 03:20:00 PM »
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Something I picked up from Souliman (the man can be a genius at times)...personify your addiction...visualize it as someone or something you can, and more importantly will, defeat. For me, I see it as my evil twin. The "me" that snuck off to the back yard to have one last dip before bed...the me that avoided talking to my kids because I didn't want to spit in front of them...the me who couldn't wait for my wife to go to bed so I could spend time with my mistress, Copenhagen.

Once I identified my addiction, I could manage it. I fought it...mentally, verbally, physically. I've actually told it out loud to "Fuck right off, I'm quit today!" and have envisioned locking my addiction up in a cage. Whatever you need to do in order to get past the craves, do it. I don't think they'll ever go away, but they do get better. Remember how shitty you feel right now and think about going through the suck all over again if you cave. It's just not worth it.

Use the resources here, get numbers, phone a friend...whatever...utilize the tools that you've been provided. Lots of people here are offering their support, don't be afraid to take it. PM if you need anything. 'archer'
Exactly tazmed, dip was my dark mistress. I'm not even straight! but a mistress she was, and no more.

Been posting to friends that the 'Lady is dead'. She's so dead I'll never see her again, outta my life for good. Written off the Italian way.

On a side note, been having odd cigarette cravings, like for specific brands. Haven't had that in YEARS...must be everything finally leaving my system.
Funny you mention that...I haven't touched a cigarette in like 8 years and the second day of my quit I wanted to go buy Newports or Marlboro Reds. How fucking random is that? My brain was pissed at me for a few days. 'finger point'
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Re: Hello, I'm new here, and feel totally stuck
« Reply #27 on: July 22, 2011, 03:14:00 PM »
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Something I picked up from Souliman (the man can be a genius at times)...personify your addiction...visualize it as someone or something you can, and more importantly will, defeat. For me, I see it as my evil twin. The "me" that snuck off to the back yard to have one last dip before bed...the me that avoided talking to my kids because I didn't want to spit in front of them...the me who couldn't wait for my wife to go to bed so I could spend time with my mistress, Copenhagen.

Once I identified my addiction, I could manage it. I fought it...mentally, verbally, physically. I've actually told it out loud to "Fuck right off, I'm quit today!" and have envisioned locking my addiction up in a cage. Whatever you need to do in order to get past the craves, do it. I don't think they'll ever go away, but they do get better. Remember how shitty you feel right now and think about going through the suck all over again if you cave. It's just not worth it.

Use the resources here, get numbers, phone a friend...whatever...utilize the tools that you've been provided. Lots of people here are offering their support, don't be afraid to take it. PM if you need anything. 'archer'
Exactly tazmed, dip was my dark mistress. I'm not even straight! but a mistress she was, and no more.

Been posting to friends that the 'Lady is dead'. She's so dead I'll never see her again, outta my life for good. Written off the Italian way.

On a side note, been having odd cigarette cravings, like for specific brands. Haven't had that in YEARS...must be everything finally leaving my system.
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Re: Hello, I'm new here, and feel totally stuck
« Reply #26 on: July 22, 2011, 03:11:00 PM »
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Radar, I am Quit with you today. You and I are definitely "young-guns" compared to most up in here. I'm 25, and our stories are not all that different. Started smoking young, traded smoking for dip, couldn't function without nic. If I can do this, you CAN do this.

As to whether or not you 'change' as a person I think that the simple answer is Yes. However, whoever said that change was a bad thing? In this case, its more of a peeling of the onion than a metamorphic change. Things will become apparent to you, about you, that you never knew. Nicotine use shielded us from many aspects of ourselves and reduces our abilities to 'cope' with reality, the cold and angry bitch she can be at times. You will now, through the journey of your Quit (Which incidentally is also the rest of your life), have the opportunity to develop a stronger mind, resolve, soul...whatever you want to call it. In a nutshell, you will emerge a better YOU.

Enjoy the ride brother, you got a longggg life ahead of you...if you buy in %100 to what we offer.

CC
I AM doing this. FUCK YEAH!

I'm edgy, sure, but I can almost feel the nic leaving me. I can feel the old me leaving.

There's something better in here, I know it.

Getting closer to end of work day. Then home. I will stay quit.

You guys rock, we're doing this together. It's fin'a be pizza and beer time soon my friends, one day at a time.

Fuck this hurts, but in a good way.
"Do it right, or don't bother."

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Re: Hello, I'm new here, and feel totally stuck
« Reply #25 on: July 22, 2011, 10:03:00 AM »
Radar, I am Quit with you today. You and I are definitely "young-guns" compared to most up in here. I'm 25, and our stories are not all that different. Started smoking young, traded smoking for dip, couldn't function without nic. If I can do this, you CAN do this.

As to whether or not you 'change' as a person I think that the simple answer is Yes. However, whoever said that change was a bad thing? In this case, its more of a peeling of the onion than a metamorphic change. Things will become apparent to you, about you, that you never knew. Nicotine use shielded us from many aspects of ourselves and reduces our abilities to 'cope' with reality, the cold and angry bitch she can be at times. You will now, through the journey of your Quit (Which incidentally is also the rest of your life), have the opportunity to develop a stronger mind, resolve, soul...whatever you want to call it. In a nutshell, you will emerge a better YOU.

Enjoy the ride brother, you got a longggg life ahead of you...if you buy in %100 to what we offer.

CC
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Re: Hello, I'm new here, and feel totally stuck
« Reply #24 on: July 22, 2011, 09:08:00 AM »
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Something I picked up from Souliman (the man can be a genius at times)...personify your addiction...visualize it as someone or something you can, and more importantly will, defeat. For me, I see it as my evil twin. The "me" that snuck off to the back yard to have one last dip before bed...the me that avoided talking to my kids because I didn't want to spit in front of them...the me who couldn't wait for my wife to go to bed so I could spend time with my mistress, Copenhagen.

Once I identified my addiction, I could manage it. I fought it...mentally, verbally, physically. I've actually told it out loud to "Fuck right off, I'm quit today!" and have envisioned locking my addiction up in a cage. Whatever you need to do in order to get past the craves, do it. I don't think they'll ever go away, but they do get better. Remember how shitty you feel right now and think about going through the suck all over again if you cave. It's just not worth it.

Use the resources here, get numbers, phone a friend...whatever...utilize the tools that you've been provided. Lots of people here are offering their support, don't be afraid to take it. PM if you need anything. 'archer'

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Re: Hello, I'm new here, and feel totally stuck
« Reply #23 on: July 22, 2011, 08:36:00 AM »
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Day 3. GRRRRRRR. Skin is on fire this morning. Don't have time to go in the chat, need to run between a few offices today. I have some numbers, so you may get a text from me!

Hmmm, weird. Sitting here, it comes and goes like waves. First anger, HARD craving. Then slight irritation, then nothing.

I'm quit. Staying quit today. Today, I am quit.

Foof.
Keep in mind the craves don't last forever. When a monster crave hits, don't think about how much you want a dip. Think about how that crave will be over in 20, 30, 40 minutes. When the crave cones you just need to stay quit until the crave ends. Then you're back to life and the person you REALLY are.

You can do this.
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Re: Hello, I'm new here, and feel totally stuck
« Reply #22 on: July 22, 2011, 07:57:00 AM »
Day 3. GRRRRRRR. Skin is on fire this morning. Don't have time to go in the chat, need to run between a few offices today. I have some numbers, so you may get a text from me!

Hmmm, weird. Sitting here, it comes and goes like waves. First anger, HARD craving. Then slight irritation, then nothing.

I'm quit. Staying quit today. Today, I am quit.

Foof.
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Re: Hello, I'm new here, and feel totally stuck
« Reply #21 on: July 21, 2011, 12:51:00 PM »
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Problem is, I don't know if I'm going to change as a person, become someone different. This has been a part of my life for 16 years, and I fear losing myself more than death, if that makes any sense.
if you don't want to change as a person and become someone different that means you're happy as you are. If that's the case then you should probably stay that way:

Basically a junkie addict with a dip in your lip and a smoke hanging out of your mouth.

On the other hand after 35 years of dipping and being a slave to the can, avoiding my family, having health issues, and spending thousands of dollars a year on tobacco, I said I'm NOT happy with who I am and I WANT to become someone different.

I think that's the big difference here.
Interesting couple of comments there that made me kind of look at myself introspectively.

I went through a lot of depression during my first couple months of quit. I think it was mostly due to losing part of myself.

Deep in my heart of hearts I wanted that part gone and I couldn't be happier now that it is, but it certainly had a psychological impact on me.
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Re: Hello, I'm new here, and feel totally stuck
« Reply #20 on: July 21, 2011, 09:10:00 AM »
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Still here, still kicking this ridiculous habit and myself for ever getting started.

I feel so...gaaaaahhh. But I'm doing it, I'm fucking doing it.
There is nothing ridiculous here...except may be MedStudent's trite quips in response to my taunts. You are an addict. Wrap your head around that. We are exorcising an addict from you bro and indeed it is not easy. And you are doing it. You are fucking doing it bro. Proud of you for taking this step. You will do this. You don't dip anymore.

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Re: Hello, I'm new here, and feel totally stuck
« Reply #19 on: July 21, 2011, 09:06:00 AM »
Still here, still kicking this ridiculous habit and myself for ever getting started.

I feel so...gaaaaahhh. But I'm doing it, I'm fucking doing it.
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Re: Hello, I'm new here, and feel totally stuck
« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2011, 08:53:00 AM »
post roll, keep your word.

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