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Re: Hello, I'm new here, and feel totally stuck
« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2011, 06:51:00 AM »
Radar,

Every day you beat this addcition is a day the REAL you is emerging. We are here to support you---read and listen to everything all the quitters are telling you.

Remember, your only job is to not put the Cancerous shit in your body! If you do that today, if you keep your PROMISE AND MAN UP, your body/mind will heal itself and come into balance on it's own--a little each day. It will come to balance quicker, if you eat right and also excercise too.

Don't Use + Treat you body/mind right = a brand knew you---a REAL YOU!!!

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Re: Hello, I'm new here, and feel totally stuck
« Reply #16 on: July 20, 2011, 10:49:00 PM »
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Hello Radar , lemme lay it out for you, there is nothing for you to lose and everything for you to gain. You started dipping as a child. You never got a chance to even discover who YOU were without addictions shadow hanging over you. Embrace the chance to let the true radar walk into the world, he maybe a righteous dude. What you are right now is a lie, your an image created by an addict . The real you won't be lost , but actually found when you wake up from the addiction.

That shit isn't your identity and it doesn't make you smarter, better looking, tougher, meaner, or any other imagined thing. In fact the only thing it does is keep you addicted to it. Grab your balls, grit your teeth and owe thru, let's see what the real Radar is made of
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SM beat me to the punch. You gotta learn who you are as an adult bro. All the shit that you do now, is going to be better once you're not putting poison in your body at mass quantities. We got to separate the addict out of you. Kick that guy to the curb. He's a loser. 'You' gotta stand tall.

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Re: Hello, I'm new here, and feel totally stuck
« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2011, 10:42:00 PM »
Hello Radar , lemme lay it out for you, there is nothing for you to lose and everything for you to gain. You started dipping as a child. You never got a chance to even discover who YOU were without addictions shadow hanging over you. Embrace the chance to let the true radar walk into the world, he maybe a righteous dude. What you are right now is a lie, your an image created by an addict . The real you won't be lost , but actually found when you wake up from the addiction.

That shit isn't your identity and it doesn't make you smarter, better looking, tougher, meaner, or any other imagined thing. In fact the only thing it does is keep you addicted to it. Grab your balls, grit your teeth and owe thru, let's see what the real Radar is made of
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Re: Hello, I'm new here, and feel totally stuck
« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2011, 09:45:00 PM »
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If I were you I would be scarred of losing myself also......."myself " being a large section of your jaw or maybe your tongue......you could lose all of you salivary glands and taste buds from the radiation treatments needed to burn the cancer out of your face or throat....you may look in a mirror and see half a face and know you lost "yourself"...or you could quit that poison you are feeding yourself and maybe find "yourself"....
Yea your not gonna loose yourself. Trust me people don't think your cool and a badass cause you dip. I've personally never had anyone tell me yo Tommy your so fucking cool bro you dip. It's usually you still fucking do that shit?
That's funny...I've had friends say that to me. "You still chew?" Like they were surprised I didn't get rid of what was a habit for them and is an addiction for me. You are a nicotine addict like me...yay...embrace it and live by it.

Life


Death

at least you have something of a choice in part of it. 'Sno'

PS - I like these little yellow fuckers so I'm gonna keep posting them at random.

jmiah out 'Remshot'
I was just afraid that without nicotine, maybe something in my brain would change, and how I think and act and feel might change, that's all.

Been 2 hours or so, can't really tell. Longest I've gone in years.

I'm going minute by minute.
You are right. Your brain will change. The receptors in your brain that activate dopamine (feel good drug) when you take in nicotine will be confused for a while and might even produce less of the feel good shit. That's normal and will pass. Natural dopamine activators like exercise, sex, eating (don't do too much) will help. Talk, talk, talk.

jmiah out

more yellow fuckers

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Eat, work out, and get some hot poontang.

You will enjoy ALL of these activities more after you quit and your mind straightens itself out. I'm no doctor, but I think it all has something to do with your circulation improving.

Things will definitely change, but it will be for the better. Once you get over the suck of the first few days, of course.

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Re: Hello, I'm new here, and feel totally stuck
« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2011, 02:35:00 PM »
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If I were you I would be scarred of losing myself also......."myself " being a large section of your jaw or maybe your tongue......you could lose all of you salivary glands and taste buds from the radiation treatments needed to burn the cancer out of your face or throat....you may look in a mirror and see half a face and know you lost "yourself"...or you could quit that poison you are feeding yourself and maybe find "yourself"....
Yea your not gonna loose yourself. Trust me people don't think your cool and a badass cause you dip. I've personally never had anyone tell me yo Tommy your so fucking cool bro you dip. It's usually you still fucking do that shit?
That's funny...I've had friends say that to me. "You still chew?" Like they were surprised I didn't get rid of what was a habit for them and is an addiction for me. You are a nicotine addict like me...yay...embrace it and live by it.

Life


Death

at least you have something of a choice in part of it. 'Sno'

PS - I like these little yellow fuckers so I'm gonna keep posting them at random.

jmiah out 'Remshot'
I was just afraid that without nicotine, maybe something in my brain would change, and how I think and act and feel might change, that's all.

Been 2 hours or so, can't really tell. Longest I've gone in years.

I'm going minute by minute.
This is something I've considered too, as you can see from my introduction.

However, it is not something to use as a crutch.

Let's find out together. Maybe it's a moot point.
In the end I Surrender, I and I alone accept that I have and always will have a Nicotene ADDICTION. It is my choice to quit, but I can't do it alone. I get to go down this path one time, I want to do it right. I recognize that my word, my integrety to you is on the line and is only as good as my actions. Caving is not an option in this plan-Eafman 7/11

I am not cured. I will quit one day at a time. I will continue to do what works. Posting roll everyday. To do otherwise would be foolish on my part. You can do this-Ready 12/11

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Re: Hello, I'm new here, and feel totally stuck
« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2011, 02:34:00 PM »
Before quitting I always used to make excuses about how hard it would be to not dip during certain activities or situations that I always associated with dip.

You know the story. Those moments or times that you always used to pop one in your mouth. It could be fishing, playing baseball, hunting season, watching the tube, reading a book, a long drive or whatever.
I used to say "damn, there is no way I could mow the grass without a big dip in".
or.....
"It would be IMPOSSIBLE for me to make it through this 7 hour drive without dip"...

If you used to or still have some of these thoughts and are not sure how you might handle these situations in the future let me be clear:

It IS POSSIBLE to do these things without dip. At the beginning it's a struggle and it SEEMS impossible but that will pass.

On the other hand, let me explain to you the TRUE meaning of IMPOSSIBLE as it relates to this addiction.

It truly is IMPOSSIBLE to enjoy and participate in these activities when you're dead. ThatÂ’s the plain and simple road youÂ’re headed down if you keep on dipping.

you've got a choice: Possible or Impossible.
Choose wisely my junkies....

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Re: Hello, I'm new here, and feel totally stuck
« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2011, 02:13:00 PM »
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Quote from: TommyNY
Quote from: Capt
If I were you I would be scarred of losing myself also......."myself " being a large section of your jaw or maybe your tongue......you could lose all of you salivary glands and taste buds from the radiation treatments needed to burn the cancer out of your face or throat....you may look in a mirror and see half a face and know you lost "yourself"...or you could quit that poison you are feeding yourself and maybe find "yourself"....
Yea your not gonna loose yourself. Trust me people don't think your cool and a badass cause you dip. I've personally never had anyone tell me yo Tommy your so fucking cool bro you dip. It's usually you still fucking do that shit?
That's funny...I've had friends say that to me. "You still chew?" Like they were surprised I didn't get rid of what was a habit for them and is an addiction for me. You are a nicotine addict like me...yay...embrace it and live by it.

Life


Death

at least you have something of a choice in part of it. 'Sno'

PS - I like these little yellow fuckers so I'm gonna keep posting them at random.

jmiah out 'Remshot'
I was just afraid that without nicotine, maybe something in my brain would change, and how I think and act and feel might change, that's all.

Been 2 hours or so, can't really tell. Longest I've gone in years.

I'm going minute by minute.
You are right. Your brain will change. The receptors in your brain that activate dopamine (feel good drug) when you take in nicotine will be confused for a while and might even produce less of the feel good shit. That's normal and will pass. Natural dopamine activators like exercise, sex, eating (don't do too much) will help. Talk, talk, talk.

jmiah out

more yellow fuckers

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candor dat viribus alas
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Re: Hello, I'm new here, and feel totally stuck
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2011, 02:11:00 PM »
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If I were you I would be scarred of losing myself also......."myself " being a large section of your jaw or maybe your tongue......you could lose all of you salivary glands and taste buds from the radiation treatments needed to burn the cancer out of your face or throat....you may look in a mirror and see half a face and know you lost "yourself"...or you could quit that poison you are feeding yourself and maybe find "yourself"....
Yea your not gonna loose yourself. Trust me people don't think your cool and a badass cause you dip. I've personally never had anyone tell me yo Tommy your so fucking cool bro you dip. It's usually you still fucking do that shit?
That's funny...I've had friends say that to me. "You still chew?" Like they were surprised I didn't get rid of what was a habit for them and is an addiction for me. You are a nicotine addict like me...yay...embrace it and live by it.

Life


Death

at least you have something of a choice in part of it. 'Sno'

PS - I like these little yellow fuckers so I'm gonna keep posting them at random.

jmiah out 'Remshot'
I was just afraid that without nicotine, maybe something in my brain would change, and how I think and act and feel might change, that's all.

Been 2 hours or so, can't really tell. Longest I've gone in years.

I'm going minute by minute.
"Do it right, or don't bother."

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Re: Hello, I'm new here, and feel totally stuck
« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2011, 01:55:00 PM »
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If I were you I would be scarred of losing myself also......."myself " being a large section of your jaw or maybe your tongue......you could lose all of you salivary glands and taste buds from the radiation treatments needed to burn the cancer out of your face or throat....you may look in a mirror and see half a face and know you lost "yourself"...or you could quit that poison you are feeding yourself and maybe find "yourself"....
Yea your not gonna loose yourself. Trust me people don't think your cool and a badass cause you dip. I've personally never had anyone tell me yo Tommy your so fucking cool bro you dip. It's usually you still fucking do that shit?
That's funny...I've had friends say that to me. "You still chew?" Like they were surprised I didn't get rid of what was a habit for them and is an addiction for me. You are a nicotine addict like me...yay...embrace it and live by it.

Life


Death

at least you have something of a choice in part of it. 'Sno'

PS - I like these little yellow fuckers so I'm gonna keep posting them at random.

jmiah out 'Remshot'
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Re: Hello, I'm new here, and feel totally stuck
« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2011, 01:46:00 PM »
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If I were you I would be scarred of losing myself also......."myself " being a large section of your jaw or maybe your tongue......you could lose all of you salivary glands and taste buds from the radiation treatments needed to burn the cancer out of your face or throat....you may look in a mirror and see half a face and know you lost "yourself"...or you could quit that poison you are feeding yourself and maybe find "yourself"....
Yea your not gonna loose yourself. Trust me people don't think your cool and a badass cause you dip. I've personally never had anyone tell me yo Tommy your so fucking cool bro you dip. It's usually you still fucking do that shit?

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Re: Hello, I'm new here, and feel totally stuck
« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2011, 01:46:00 PM »
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Problem is, I don't know if I'm going to change as a person, become someone different. This has been a part of my life for 16 years, and I fear losing myself more than death, if that makes any sense.

So, that's my story. Taking things one day at a time. Not sure if I'm ready to quit, but I figure if I post this, maybe someone will give me enough of a verbal beating to finally push me over the edge.
if you don't want to change as a person and become someone different that means you're happy as you are. If that's the case then you should probably stay that way:

Basically a junkie addict with a dip in your lip and a smoke hanging out of your mouth.

On the other hand after 35 years of dipping and being a slave to the can, avoiding my family, having health issues, and spending thousands of dollars a year on tobacco, I said I'm NOT happy with who I am and I WANT to become someone different.

I think that's the big difference here.

In fact I'd save that line you embellished below. It would make a great epitath: Here lies radar. He feared losing himself more than death......

I'd get someone started on that tombstone quick though cause at the rate you're consuming I'm taking bets on not reaching 40......

How 'bout dem apples.....
TCOPE on a rope.....

P.S. If you REALLY do want to become someone different then get over to October and post up a day 1. I'll support you along with hundreds of others that have taken that step in saying "I want my life to change"......
Seriously? You're worried about becoming a person other than the one you just described?! If you're kidding, it's not funny. If you're serious, go back and read what you wrote and realize how ridiculous your "fear of changing as a person" sounds.

I used to dip 1.5-2.0 cans a day, and I've been quit for 492 days now. I can promise you, neither I nor anyone I know misses that dumbass, hard dipping motherfucker. My life is much better now, and nothing good about me died. You can only change for the better by quitting. Period. Yeah, quitting is hard as hell in the beginning, but there's always a price to be paid for freedom. If you've got the balls to promise not to use nicotine every day, and if you're man enough to live up to that promise, you're in the right place.

Scared of losing yourself, though? Come on, don't bullshit me and I won't bullshit you.

P.S. Some of the other negative traits you describe? You'd be surprised how those can be positively affect by the strength you gain by quitting. But make no mistake, your addiction is a monster all it's own and has nothing to do with any hard times you may or may not have. You just have to man up and quit each day. As they say, not easy, but simple.
Just maybe you will find out who you really are?
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Re: Hello, I'm new here, and feel totally stuck
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2011, 01:41:00 PM »
If I were you I would be scarred of losing myself also......."myself " being a large section of your jaw or maybe your tongue......you could lose all of you salivary glands and taste buds from the radiation treatments needed to burn the cancer out of your face or throat....you may look in a mirror and see half a face and know you lost "yourself"...or you could quit that poison you are feeding yourself and maybe find "yourself"....
Chew is for the weak, the ignorant, the stupid.....don't be stupid. Not stupid as of 11/28/10
Before you cave read this http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=4938
Acting with almost as much speed as cyanide, nicotine is well
established as one of the most toxic drugs known. In humans,
60mg (a drop) is a lethal dose, and death follows intake within a few minutes. Dr. Charles Ksir

Mouth cancer kills
one American every hour.

Stay Quit...it's life or death.....
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Re: Hello, I'm new here, and feel totally stuck
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2011, 01:02:00 PM »
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Problem is, I don't know if I'm going to change as a person, become someone different. This has been a part of my life for 16 years, and I fear losing myself more than death, if that makes any sense.

So, that's my story. Taking things one day at a time. Not sure if I'm ready to quit, but I figure if I post this, maybe someone will give me enough of a verbal beating to finally push me over the edge.
if you don't want to change as a person and become someone different that means you're happy as you are. If that's the case then you should probably stay that way:

Basically a junkie addict with a dip in your lip and a smoke hanging out of your mouth.

On the other hand after 35 years of dipping and being a slave to the can, avoiding my family, having health issues, and spending thousands of dollars a year on tobacco, I said I'm NOT happy with who I am and I WANT to become someone different.

I think that's the big difference here.

In fact I'd save that line you embellished below. It would make a great epitath: Here lies radar. He feared losing himself more than death......

I'd get someone started on that tombstone quick though cause at the rate you're consuming I'm taking bets on not reaching 40......

How 'bout dem apples.....
TCOPE on a rope.....

P.S. If you REALLY do want to become someone different then get over to October and post up a day 1. I'll support you along with hundreds of others that have taken that step in saying "I want my life to change"......
Seriously? You're worried about becoming a person other than the one you just described?! If you're kidding, it's not funny. If you're serious, go back and read what you wrote and realize how ridiculous your "fear of changing as a person" sounds.

I used to dip 1.5-2.0 cans a day, and I've been quit for 492 days now. I can promise you, neither I nor anyone I know misses that dumbass, hard dipping motherfucker. My life is much better now, and nothing good about me died. You can only change for the better by quitting. Period. Yeah, quitting is hard as hell in the beginning, but there's always a price to be paid for freedom. If you've got the balls to promise not to use nicotine every day, and if you're man enough to live up to that promise, you're in the right place.

Scared of losing yourself, though? Come on, don't bullshit me and I won't bullshit you.

P.S. Some of the other negative traits you describe? You'd be surprised how those can be positively affect by the strength you gain by quitting. But make no mistake, your addiction is a monster all it's own and has nothing to do with any hard times you may or may not have. You just have to man up and quit each day. As they say, not easy, but simple.

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Re: Hello, I'm new here, and feel totally stuck
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2011, 12:53:00 PM »
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So, here's the Reader's Digest condensed version of my story:

Started smoking when I was 11, mainly because I was a goody-two shoes and wanted my own level of badassery. Started dipping at 15 when my grandfather passed away, and I just couldn't handle reality.

Smoked and dipped almost constantly, hitting something like 2 packs and 2 cans a day by the time I was 20. Then I went to Navy boot camp. Couldn't smoke or dip there, but once I got out, all hell broke loose.

I smoked, and I kid you not, 3 packs a day, often 2 at a time. I was never without a dip either. Ate with one, slept with one, hell, it was my "other half."

Fast-forward to April, 2010. I quit smoking for good, or so I thought. Switched to nicotine gum for when I couldn't dip, and thought everything was ok.

This, of course, meant that now I'm dipping bigger pinches, and chewing 2 pieces of 4mg nicotine gum at a time when not dipping.

Yesterday, I looked through my can box, where I save empty cans. There were over a hundred in there, and I emptied that box last month.

Cancer never bothered me, as I always had a sort of fatalistic approach to life in general. I just never cared, about anything, after...well, that's maybe for another post.

So where am I now? Well, hiding dipping from most people, going through 2+ cans a day and 2 boxes of hundred count nicotine gum a month. I've had a few smoking relapses as well: last month, I bought a carton, sat myself down and smoked the whole thing over the course of 2 days.

I'm 27 fucking years old, I spend more money on nicotine than food, can't function without it, and have finally hit a point where I think it's time to kick it for good.

Problem is, I don't know if I'm going to change as a person, become someone different. This has been a part of my life for 16 years, and I fear losing myself more than death, if that makes any sense.

So, that's my story. Taking things one day at a time. Not sure if I'm ready to quit, but I figure if I post this, maybe someone will give me enough of a verbal beating to finally push me over the edge.
The only way to quit is to want it, and you are going to become different.

Post roll. Don't use nicotine today.

Do this again tomorrow.

Do it again the next day.

Have a quit box where you store all your money you've wasted on nicotine gum, chew, and cigarettes. Hell, by the sounds of it, you are going to need a money bin ala Scrooge McDuck in a few years.

October Quitters

We quit on this site one day at a time. We post roll call daily telling each other that we won't use nictotine that day.

Your quit is not special. The site administrator did it 2200 days ago. I went through the same shit 22 days ago. There's some guys going through the physical withdrawal right now. But we do it together because we all know how tough it is to quit.

Come join us. Post roll. I'll PM you my cell phone once you've posted roll. Text me anytime.
In the end I Surrender, I and I alone accept that I have and always will have a Nicotene ADDICTION. It is my choice to quit, but I can't do it alone. I get to go down this path one time, I want to do it right. I recognize that my word, my integrety to you is on the line and is only as good as my actions. Caving is not an option in this plan-Eafman 7/11

I am not cured. I will quit one day at a time. I will continue to do what works. Posting roll everyday. To do otherwise would be foolish on my part. You can do this-Ready 12/11

To overcome your addiction you must comprehend what it means to fail-Razd 3/12

Theres a lot of people that come here, especially vets, that WANT to be reminded that they are addicts.-Tarpon 6/12

Just as a building starts with architectural drawings. Your daily quit begins with a promise.-Scowick 2/13

Here and now, focused on today, minute by minute, whatever it takes, I promise to all my bros and myself not to become a negative stat and stay quit!-krok 1/15

I want everyone to be quit. Even the assholes.-Probe1957 1/18

Ignoring history or erasing history fixes nothing and leads you inevitably down the same path.-69franx 04/30/2021

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Re: Hello, I'm new here, and feel totally stuck
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2011, 12:45:00 PM »
Quote from: radar
Problem is, I don't know if I'm going to change as a person, become someone different. This has been a part of my life for 16 years, and I fear losing myself more than death, if that makes any sense.

So, that's my story. Taking things one day at a time. Not sure if I'm ready to quit, but I figure if I post this, maybe someone will give me enough of a verbal beating to finally push me over the edge.
if you don't want to change as a person and become someone different that means you're happy as you are. If that's the case then you should probably stay that way:

Basically a junkie addict with a dip in your lip and a smoke hanging out of your mouth.

On the other hand after 35 years of dipping and being a slave to the can, avoiding my family, having health issues, and spending thousands of dollars a year on tobacco, I said I'm NOT happy with who I am and I WANT to become someone different.

I think that's the big difference here.

In fact I'd save that line you embellished below. It would make a great epitath: Here lies radar. He feared losing himself more than death......

I'd get someone started on that tombstone quick though cause at the rate you're consuming I'm taking bets on not reaching 40......

How 'bout dem apples.....
TCOPE on a rope.....

P.S. If you REALLY do want to become someone different then get over to October and post up a day 1. I'll support you along with hundreds of others that have taken that step in saying "I want my life to change"......
I don't do drugs…. I am drugs…