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Re: I'm back
« Reply #436 on: June 30, 2014, 10:35:00 AM »
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If you are looking for some extra accountability, please feel free to post with the following groups. Some of them are old and only have a couple people (or even just one person) posting.

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You forgot one.
I forgot plenty, but surely a honey badger like yourself don't care.

Cause honey badgers don't give a shit
In the end I Surrender, I and I alone accept that I have and always will have a Nicotene ADDICTION. It is my choice to quit, but I can't do it alone. I get to go down this path one time, I want to do it right. I recognize that my word, my integrety to you is on the line and is only as good as my actions. Caving is not an option in this plan-Eafman 7/11

I am not cured. I will quit one day at a time. I will continue to do what works. Posting roll everyday. To do otherwise would be foolish on my part. You can do this-Ready 12/11

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Re: I'm back
« Reply #435 on: June 30, 2014, 10:30:00 AM »
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If you are looking for some extra accountability, please feel free to post with the following groups. Some of them are old and only have a couple people (or even just one person) posting.

April 2006

May 2006

October 2006

December 2006 (The first official class of KTC and my first group.)

April 2008

October 2009

April 2011

May 2011

And, of course, you're always welcome to be a Basterd.

Accountability is a two way street, my friends.

Fuck the noise. Enjoy the quit. It doesn't just happen. We make it.
You forgot one.
What is your major malfunction?!?!?!?!

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Re: I'm back
« Reply #434 on: June 30, 2014, 10:20:00 AM »
If you are looking for some extra accountability, please feel free to post with the following groups. Some of them are old and only have a couple people (or even just one person) posting.

April 2006

May 2006

October 2006

December 2006 (The first official class of KTC and my first group.)

April 2008

October 2009

April 2011

May 2011

And, of course, you're always welcome to be a Basterd.

Accountability is a two way street, my friends.

Fuck the noise. Enjoy the quit. It doesn't just happen. We make it.
In the end I Surrender, I and I alone accept that I have and always will have a Nicotene ADDICTION. It is my choice to quit, but I can't do it alone. I get to go down this path one time, I want to do it right. I recognize that my word, my integrety to you is on the line and is only as good as my actions. Caving is not an option in this plan-Eafman 7/11

I am not cured. I will quit one day at a time. I will continue to do what works. Posting roll everyday. To do otherwise would be foolish on my part. You can do this-Ready 12/11

To overcome your addiction you must comprehend what it means to fail-Razd 3/12

Theres a lot of people that come here, especially vets, that WANT to be reminded that they are addicts.-Tarpon 6/12

Just as a building starts with architectural drawings. Your daily quit begins with a promise.-Scowick 2/13

Here and now, focused on today, minute by minute, whatever it takes, I promise to all my bros and myself not to become a negative stat and stay quit!-krok 1/15

I want everyone to be quit. Even the assholes.-Probe1957 1/18

Ignoring history or erasing history fixes nothing and leads you inevitably down the same path.-69franx 04/30/2021

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Re: I'm back
« Reply #433 on: June 28, 2014, 07:24:00 PM »
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Nicotine is a very addictive substance. It does not need outside voices coaxing its users to continue their abuse of the product with the allure that it has little to no consequences.

Yet, there are.

In 1994, that narrative began to fall apart. When a large FedEx box was delivered to the University of California containing thousands of leaked documents from Brown  Williamson (the nation's third largest tobacco company), the truth was put forth. The documents stated that yes, the tobacco companies knew nicotine was addictive. They also knew that their product increased the chance of getting cancer. In fact, the American Medical Association said that the companies "dissemble, distort, and deceive, despite the fact that the industry's own research is consistent with the scientific community's conclusion that continued use of their product will endanger the lives and health of the public." The AMA had never and has never issued an opinion in this manner to date.

In the wake of Tony Gwynn's passing from salivary gland cancer, a new debate has opened on the dangers of smokeless tobacco. Smokeless tobacco is not harmless, and there are still organizations out there spinning a story that it is. The organizations are funded primarily through the tobacco industry, yet separate themselves from the industry through smoke and mirrors. As society moves away from this horrible drug, it must disregard voices like these that exist only to advertise and console its users back to sleep in times of debate.

While reading various articles about Tony Gwynn, I realized that a column that appeared on CNN.com had been syndicated to other media publications as well. The article, entitled A Habit All too Common In Baseball by Jacque Wilson, appeared also on such sites as myarklamiss.com, kcra.com, and many others. The article speaks very bluntly about Gwynn's use, how nearly one-third of all MLB rookies were regular chewers (1999), and what MLB's response is to Gwynn's passing.

Unfortunately, it also contains the following passage:
Quote
There is no scientifically established link between smokeless tobacco and salivary gland cancer, according to the American Council on Science and Health. Doctors don't know what causes salivary gland cancer, but the Mayo Clinic lists old age and radiation as known risk factors.

"The kind of chewing tobacco Gwynn used does have some risk of oral cancer, but not parotid (salivary) gland cancer, which is the kind that took his life at such a young age," said Dr. Gilbert Ross, the council's medical director.
Dr. Gilbert Ross is the executive director and medical director of the American Council on Science and Health. It is a very prestigious position that Ross obtained after losing his medical license in a Medicaid fraud scheme. After spending all of 1996 in a federal penitentiary, Ross was released and began working for ACSH in 1998. He was promoted to executive director the following year. (SOURCE)

The American Council on Science and Health was founded in 1978 Elizabeth Whelan. Whelan started the organization because she "had become concerned that many important public policies related to health and the environment did not have a sound scientific basis" (according to its website). After being denounced as "manufacturer's front group" in the 1990s, it no longer reports its donors. Companies such as Dow Chemical, Shell Oil, and others were reported donors in the 1990s. Providing nearly one-third of the organization's revenue, it can be speculated that they donated to the organization in order to receive "industry friendly" scientific studies (which the organization has been happy to publish) (SOURCE). Although it claims that 90 percent of its revenue comes from individual donors, Mother Jones reported that leaked documents showed that nearly 60% of its 2012 donations (second half) came from corporations or private foundations (including tobacco companies Altria, Reynolds, and Phillips).

With such an open dialogue igniting on the issue of smokeless tobacco, voices and sources such as Dr. Gilbert Ross and the American Council on Science and Health need to be shown for what they are. They are mouth pieces for an industry that is determined to assuage fears about its poisonous products, and to calm the storm that is rising against them.

In the midst of yesterday's news cycle, the ACSH stated (definitively) that Gwynn's death was NOT due to his use of smokeless tobacco, and they back up their arguments with a study done by none other than KTC fiend Brad Rodu. Dr. Rodu is a big proponent of harm reduction (i.e. switch to smokeless tobacco instead of smoking). He is funded by unrestricted grants from tobacco manufacturers. It is no surprise that he came up with this conclusion. Supposedly, there are no studies that link paratid gland cancer to chewing tobacco. Yet, a quick Google search says that "chewing tobacco use increases the risk factor" by multiple organizations.

Tony Gwynn stated that the tumor was "right where I kept my chew". He stated that sores had formed throughout his life there, and he sought treatment multiple times for the beginning stages of his disease. Unfortunately, he kept up with his nasty habit until it was too late. It may be too late for him, but it is not too late for the millions of users out there still using smokeless tobacco. Voices such as the ACSH, Gilbert Ross, and Brad Rodu need not be part of the conversation as they are biased voices that intend to muddy the waters.

As a quitter of smokeless tobacco, I can speak for the evils of the product. It is horrible to quit, and it is not harmless. Chewing tobacco has almost always been part of the game, but it doesn't have to be.
http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/ ... -baseball/

I read this abomination the other day. Thanks for clarifying these scumbags at ACSH.
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Re: I'm back
« Reply #432 on: June 28, 2014, 06:32:00 PM »
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Re: I'm back
« Reply #431 on: June 27, 2014, 11:23:00 AM »
Nicotine is a very addictive substance. It does not need outside voices coaxing its users to continue their abuse of the product with the allure that it has little to no consequences.

Yet, there are.

In 1994, that narrative began to fall apart. When a large FedEx box was delivered to the University of California containing thousands of leaked documents from Brown  Williamson (the nation's third largest tobacco company), the truth was put forth. The documents stated that yes, the tobacco companies knew nicotine was addictive. They also knew that their product increased the chance of getting cancer. In fact, the American Medical Association said that the companies "dissemble, distort, and deceive, despite the fact that the industry's own research is consistent with the scientific community's conclusion that continued use of their product will endanger the lives and health of the public." The AMA had never and has never issued an opinion in this manner to date.

In the wake of Tony Gwynn's passing from salivary gland cancer, a new debate has opened on the dangers of smokeless tobacco. Smokeless tobacco is not harmless, and there are still organizations out there spinning a story that it is. The organizations are funded primarily through the tobacco industry, yet separate themselves from the industry through smoke and mirrors. As society moves away from this horrible drug, it must disregard voices like these that exist only to advertise and console its users back to sleep in times of debate.

While reading various articles about Tony Gwynn, I realized that a column that appeared on CNN.com had been syndicated to other media publications as well. The article, entitled A Habit All too Common In Baseball by Jacque Wilson, appeared also on such sites as myarklamiss.com, kcra.com, and many others. The article speaks very bluntly about Gwynn's use, how nearly one-third of all MLB rookies were regular chewers (1999), and what MLB's response is to Gwynn's passing.

Unfortunately, it also contains the following passage:
Quote
There is no scientifically established link between smokeless tobacco and salivary gland cancer, according to the American Council on Science and Health. Doctors don't know what causes salivary gland cancer, but the Mayo Clinic lists old age and radiation as known risk factors.

"The kind of chewing tobacco Gwynn used does have some risk of oral cancer, but not parotid (salivary) gland cancer, which is the kind that took his life at such a young age," said Dr. Gilbert Ross, the council's medical director.
Dr. Gilbert Ross is the executive director and medical director of the American Council on Science and Health. It is a very prestigious position that Ross obtained after losing his medical license in a Medicaid fraud scheme. After spending all of 1996 in a federal penitentiary, Ross was released and began working for ACSH in 1998. He was promoted to executive director the following year. (SOURCE)

The American Council on Science and Health was founded in 1978 Elizabeth Whelan. Whelan started the organization because she "had become concerned that many important public policies related to health and the environment did not have a sound scientific basis" (according to its website). After being denounced as "manufacturer's front group" in the 1990s, it no longer reports its donors. Companies such as Dow Chemical, Shell Oil, and others were reported donors in the 1990s. Providing nearly one-third of the organization's revenue, it can be speculated that they donated to the organization in order to receive "industry friendly" scientific studies (which the organization has been happy to publish) (SOURCE). Although it claims that 90 percent of its revenue comes from individual donors, Mother Jones reported that leaked documents showed that nearly 60% of its 2012 donations (second half) came from corporations or private foundations (including tobacco companies Altria, Reynolds, and Phillips).

With such an open dialogue igniting on the issue of smokeless tobacco, voices and sources such as Dr. Gilbert Ross and the American Council on Science and Health need to be shown for what they are. They are mouth pieces for an industry that is determined to assuage fears about its poisonous products, and to calm the storm that is rising against them.

In the midst of yesterday's news cycle, the ACSH stated (definitively) that Gwynn's death was NOT due to his use of smokeless tobacco, and they back up their arguments with a study done by none other than KTC fiend Brad Rodu. Dr. Rodu is a big proponent of harm reduction (i.e. switch to smokeless tobacco instead of smoking). He is funded by unrestricted grants from tobacco manufacturers. It is no surprise that he came up with this conclusion. Supposedly, there are no studies that link paratid gland cancer to chewing tobacco. Yet, a quick Google search says that "chewing tobacco use increases the risk factor" by multiple organizations.

Tony Gwynn stated that the tumor was "right where I kept my chew". He stated that sores had formed throughout his life there, and he sought treatment multiple times for the beginning stages of his disease. Unfortunately, he kept up with his nasty habit until it was too late. It may be too late for him, but it is not too late for the millions of users out there still using smokeless tobacco. Voices such as the ACSH, Gilbert Ross, and Brad Rodu need not be part of the conversation as they are biased voices that intend to muddy the waters.

As a quitter of smokeless tobacco, I can speak for the evils of the product. It is horrible to quit, and it is not harmless. Chewing tobacco has almost always been part of the game, but it doesn't have to be.
In the end I Surrender, I and I alone accept that I have and always will have a Nicotene ADDICTION. It is my choice to quit, but I can't do it alone. I get to go down this path one time, I want to do it right. I recognize that my word, my integrety to you is on the line and is only as good as my actions. Caving is not an option in this plan-Eafman 7/11

I am not cured. I will quit one day at a time. I will continue to do what works. Posting roll everyday. To do otherwise would be foolish on my part. You can do this-Ready 12/11

To overcome your addiction you must comprehend what it means to fail-Razd 3/12

Theres a lot of people that come here, especially vets, that WANT to be reminded that they are addicts.-Tarpon 6/12

Just as a building starts with architectural drawings. Your daily quit begins with a promise.-Scowick 2/13

Here and now, focused on today, minute by minute, whatever it takes, I promise to all my bros and myself not to become a negative stat and stay quit!-krok 1/15

I want everyone to be quit. Even the assholes.-Probe1957 1/18

Ignoring history or erasing history fixes nothing and leads you inevitably down the same path.-69franx 04/30/2021

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Re: I'm back
« Reply #430 on: June 27, 2014, 02:26:00 AM »
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Re: I'm back
« Reply #429 on: June 27, 2014, 02:26:00 AM »
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That's some mighty wood you're sporting you beast.
In the end I Surrender, I and I alone accept that I have and always will have a Nicotene ADDICTION. It is my choice to quit, but I can't do it alone. I get to go down this path one time, I want to do it right. I recognize that my word, my integrety to you is on the line and is only as good as my actions. Caving is not an option in this plan-Eafman 7/11

I am not cured. I will quit one day at a time. I will continue to do what works. Posting roll everyday. To do otherwise would be foolish on my part. You can do this-Ready 12/11

To overcome your addiction you must comprehend what it means to fail-Razd 3/12

Theres a lot of people that come here, especially vets, that WANT to be reminded that they are addicts.-Tarpon 6/12

Just as a building starts with architectural drawings. Your daily quit begins with a promise.-Scowick 2/13

Here and now, focused on today, minute by minute, whatever it takes, I promise to all my bros and myself not to become a negative stat and stay quit!-krok 1/15

I want everyone to be quit. Even the assholes.-Probe1957 1/18

Ignoring history or erasing history fixes nothing and leads you inevitably down the same path.-69franx 04/30/2021

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Re: I'm back
« Reply #428 on: June 27, 2014, 02:25:00 AM »
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Re: I'm back
« Reply #427 on: May 04, 2014, 03:15:00 PM »
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Well, it's Ohio and spring is about a month away (seriously...it's still fucking cold here but we don't care. Calendar says it's spring...we'll act like it's spring.). Tax season is done, and that means my yard awaits.

Yesterday was the first day I got to go out and play around. The grass is mowed, and we edged the mulch beds (which were really easy as we just laid fresh mulch last year). I did a little weed whacking, but not too much as I hate that fucking thing. The only things that were driving me crazy were these gigantic bushes around my house. I have one right next to my patio that acts as a wall, but I can't do anything to that right now as some birds have decided to next there. I have one on the corner of my house that I cut down to 5 feet last year while quoting Ivan Drago (If he dies...he dies.).

The last one sits right on my property line and is fucking out of control. It's like 10 feet in diameter, and while one side is manageable, the other side sits on a hill so I end up swinging the trimmer wildly above my head like a pussified Leatherface (Ohio Bushtrimmer Crisis?). I hate this fucking bush as it sits right in my mowing lines, and I get stuck on the (previously mentioned) hill if there is an ounce of moisture on the ground. It sits pretty close to my septic tank, so I'm always wondering if its roots are the reason I'll be shelling out $8000-$10000 here for a new one.

Well, I decided yesterday I was pulling that shit up.

When I announced this, my wife gave me a look and headed inside. I took a few swipes, and I began cutting into it. The outside stuff (the little branches) came off easily, but they left quite a mess on the ground. The inner branches were a little thicker and required a little more work. I brought out my big branch cutters, and I went to town. Before I knew it, I was 3 quarters into it. My wife was surprised as to how easily it was coming down, and commented that we'd now have a "good look at the un-kept house next door". Before I knew it, the bush had been disassembled and was sitting on the burn pile.

The roots were still sticking out of the ground, and I could see at least 7 places in this area where the bush has once emerged from the ground. Instead of clipping everything really close to the ground, I thought I'd probably just dig up the roots. I got 2 out in about an hour, and then I broke a shovel. I went to my back up, and that fucking broke too. I was tired. I was pissed.

And now I don't even have a shovel.

Maybe it was because I was wearing my KTC shirt, or maybe I was just remembering THIS awesome post. Maybe it was because I was doing yard work without a single craving...

But I sat down, and I realized that I didn't have to kill this all off at once. Like nicotine, this bush doesn't magically just "disappear". The small branches come off easily, but there's some bigger stuff underneath that. Once I get rid of those, there's still some roots that I need to tend to. Each layer of my quit required a different tool: I can use the clippers (will power) to get through the initial branches, but I have to pull out my big clippers (attitude change) to get through those major branches. Once I clear through all that, I pull out my shovel (consistency, roll call). Along the way, I've broken a few tools. That shit doesn't stop me though. I just get another.

I'm an impatient man, and it urks me that I have a dead spot in my yard with some ankle slicing roots sticking out of it. But at lunch today, I'm getting another shovel.

It will be gone (at least the pieces I can get to). As long as I stay vigilant on this, it won't become the hassle it was before. That means I need to watch for any roots sprouting and clip those off immediately. If I ignore those things, I'll be right back to where I was before.

Stay quit. We can do this.
When I wrote this, it was beautiful outside.

Since then, it has rained ever since. No progress, but it has not been forgotten.
Roots are fucking out.

Everything is still green and wet, but I have a nice pile that won't quite burn today. Soil and seed.
In the end I Surrender, I and I alone accept that I have and always will have a Nicotene ADDICTION. It is my choice to quit, but I can't do it alone. I get to go down this path one time, I want to do it right. I recognize that my word, my integrety to you is on the line and is only as good as my actions. Caving is not an option in this plan-Eafman 7/11

I am not cured. I will quit one day at a time. I will continue to do what works. Posting roll everyday. To do otherwise would be foolish on my part. You can do this-Ready 12/11

To overcome your addiction you must comprehend what it means to fail-Razd 3/12

Theres a lot of people that come here, especially vets, that WANT to be reminded that they are addicts.-Tarpon 6/12

Just as a building starts with architectural drawings. Your daily quit begins with a promise.-Scowick 2/13

Here and now, focused on today, minute by minute, whatever it takes, I promise to all my bros and myself not to become a negative stat and stay quit!-krok 1/15

I want everyone to be quit. Even the assholes.-Probe1957 1/18

Ignoring history or erasing history fixes nothing and leads you inevitably down the same path.-69franx 04/30/2021

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Re: I'm back
« Reply #426 on: April 30, 2014, 04:33:00 PM »
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Well, it's Ohio and spring is about a month away (seriously...it's still fucking cold here but we don't care. Calendar says it's spring...we'll act like it's spring.). Tax season is done, and that means my yard awaits.

Yesterday was the first day I got to go out and play around. The grass is mowed, and we edged the mulch beds (which were really easy as we just laid fresh mulch last year). I did a little weed whacking, but not too much as I hate that fucking thing. The only things that were driving me crazy were these gigantic bushes around my house. I have one right next to my patio that acts as a wall, but I can't do anything to that right now as some birds have decided to next there. I have one on the corner of my house that I cut down to 5 feet last year while quoting Ivan Drago (If he dies...he dies.).

The last one sits right on my property line and is fucking out of control. It's like 10 feet in diameter, and while one side is manageable, the other side sits on a hill so I end up swinging the trimmer wildly above my head like a pussified Leatherface (Ohio Bushtrimmer Crisis?). I hate this fucking bush as it sits right in my mowing lines, and I get stuck on the (previously mentioned) hill if there is an ounce of moisture on the ground. It sits pretty close to my septic tank, so I'm always wondering if its roots are the reason I'll be shelling out $8000-$10000 here for a new one.

Well, I decided yesterday I was pulling that shit up.

When I announced this, my wife gave me a look and headed inside. I took a few swipes, and I began cutting into it. The outside stuff (the little branches) came off easily, but they left quite a mess on the ground. The inner branches were a little thicker and required a little more work. I brought out my big branch cutters, and I went to town. Before I knew it, I was 3 quarters into it. My wife was surprised as to how easily it was coming down, and commented that we'd now have a "good look at the un-kept house next door". Before I knew it, the bush had been disassembled and was sitting on the burn pile.

The roots were still sticking out of the ground, and I could see at least 7 places in this area where the bush has once emerged from the ground. Instead of clipping everything really close to the ground, I thought I'd probably just dig up the roots. I got 2 out in about an hour, and then I broke a shovel. I went to my back up, and that fucking broke too. I was tired. I was pissed.

And now I don't even have a shovel.

Maybe it was because I was wearing my KTC shirt, or maybe I was just remembering THIS awesome post. Maybe it was because I was doing yard work without a single craving...

But I sat down, and I realized that I didn't have to kill this all off at once. Like nicotine, this bush doesn't magically just "disappear". The small branches come off easily, but there's some bigger stuff underneath that. Once I get rid of those, there's still some roots that I need to tend to. Each layer of my quit required a different tool: I can use the clippers (will power) to get through the initial branches, but I have to pull out my big clippers (attitude change) to get through those major branches. Once I clear through all that, I pull out my shovel (consistency, roll call). Along the way, I've broken a few tools. That shit doesn't stop me though. I just get another.

I'm an impatient man, and it urks me that I have a dead spot in my yard with some ankle slicing roots sticking out of it. But at lunch today, I'm getting another shovel.

It will be gone (at least the pieces I can get to). As long as I stay vigilant on this, it won't become the hassle it was before. That means I need to watch for any roots sprouting and clip those off immediately. If I ignore those things, I'll be right back to where I was before.

Stay quit. We can do this.
When I wrote this, it was beautiful outside.

Since then, it has rained ever since. No progress, but it has not been forgotten.
Some days require more attention to quit details than other days do. So long as you keep checking, there is little chance of those pesky weeds/roots spinning out of control. Thanks for all you do here WP.
For some reason ... You leaning on a shovel next to the remains of this plant, all nipped out, on a cold, rainy, spring day in Ohio, sporting a white, sleeveless KTC shirt and leather work gloves....makes me smile. It would be a great KTC banner pic.

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Re: I'm back
« Reply #425 on: April 30, 2014, 02:09:00 PM »
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Well, it's Ohio and spring is about a month away (seriously...it's still fucking cold here but we don't care. Calendar says it's spring...we'll act like it's spring.). Tax season is done, and that means my yard awaits.

Yesterday was the first day I got to go out and play around. The grass is mowed, and we edged the mulch beds (which were really easy as we just laid fresh mulch last year). I did a little weed whacking, but not too much as I hate that fucking thing. The only things that were driving me crazy were these gigantic bushes around my house. I have one right next to my patio that acts as a wall, but I can't do anything to that right now as some birds have decided to next there. I have one on the corner of my house that I cut down to 5 feet last year while quoting Ivan Drago (If he dies...he dies.).

The last one sits right on my property line and is fucking out of control. It's like 10 feet in diameter, and while one side is manageable, the other side sits on a hill so I end up swinging the trimmer wildly above my head like a pussified Leatherface (Ohio Bushtrimmer Crisis?). I hate this fucking bush as it sits right in my mowing lines, and I get stuck on the (previously mentioned) hill if there is an ounce of moisture on the ground. It sits pretty close to my septic tank, so I'm always wondering if its roots are the reason I'll be shelling out $8000-$10000 here for a new one.

Well, I decided yesterday I was pulling that shit up.

When I announced this, my wife gave me a look and headed inside. I took a few swipes, and I began cutting into it. The outside stuff (the little branches) came off easily, but they left quite a mess on the ground. The inner branches were a little thicker and required a little more work. I brought out my big branch cutters, and I went to town. Before I knew it, I was 3 quarters into it. My wife was surprised as to how easily it was coming down, and commented that we'd now have a "good look at the un-kept house next door". Before I knew it, the bush had been disassembled and was sitting on the burn pile.

The roots were still sticking out of the ground, and I could see at least 7 places in this area where the bush has once emerged from the ground. Instead of clipping everything really close to the ground, I thought I'd probably just dig up the roots. I got 2 out in about an hour, and then I broke a shovel. I went to my back up, and that fucking broke too. I was tired. I was pissed.

And now I don't even have a shovel.

Maybe it was because I was wearing my KTC shirt, or maybe I was just remembering THIS awesome post. Maybe it was because I was doing yard work without a single craving...

But I sat down, and I realized that I didn't have to kill this all off at once. Like nicotine, this bush doesn't magically just "disappear". The small branches come off easily, but there's some bigger stuff underneath that. Once I get rid of those, there's still some roots that I need to tend to. Each layer of my quit required a different tool: I can use the clippers (will power) to get through the initial branches, but I have to pull out my big clippers (attitude change) to get through those major branches. Once I clear through all that, I pull out my shovel (consistency, roll call). Along the way, I've broken a few tools. That shit doesn't stop me though. I just get another.

I'm an impatient man, and it urks me that I have a dead spot in my yard with some ankle slicing roots sticking out of it. But at lunch today, I'm getting another shovel.

It will be gone (at least the pieces I can get to). As long as I stay vigilant on this, it won't become the hassle it was before. That means I need to watch for any roots sprouting and clip those off immediately. If I ignore those things, I'll be right back to where I was before.

Stay quit. We can do this.
When I wrote this, it was beautiful outside.

Since then, it has rained ever since. No progress, but it has not been forgotten.
Some days require more attention to quit details than other days do. So long as you keep checking, there is little chance of those pesky weeds/roots spinning out of control. Thanks for all you do here WP.
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Re: I'm back
« Reply #424 on: April 30, 2014, 01:57:00 PM »
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Well, it's Ohio and spring is about a month away (seriously...it's still fucking cold here but we don't care. Calendar says it's spring...we'll act like it's spring.). Tax season is done, and that means my yard awaits.

Yesterday was the first day I got to go out and play around. The grass is mowed, and we edged the mulch beds (which were really easy as we just laid fresh mulch last year). I did a little weed whacking, but not too much as I hate that fucking thing. The only things that were driving me crazy were these gigantic bushes around my house. I have one right next to my patio that acts as a wall, but I can't do anything to that right now as some birds have decided to next there. I have one on the corner of my house that I cut down to 5 feet last year while quoting Ivan Drago (If he dies...he dies.).

The last one sits right on my property line and is fucking out of control. It's like 10 feet in diameter, and while one side is manageable, the other side sits on a hill so I end up swinging the trimmer wildly above my head like a pussified Leatherface (Ohio Bushtrimmer Crisis?). I hate this fucking bush as it sits right in my mowing lines, and I get stuck on the (previously mentioned) hill if there is an ounce of moisture on the ground. It sits pretty close to my septic tank, so I'm always wondering if its roots are the reason I'll be shelling out $8000-$10000 here for a new one.

Well, I decided yesterday I was pulling that shit up.

When I announced this, my wife gave me a look and headed inside. I took a few swipes, and I began cutting into it. The outside stuff (the little branches) came off easily, but they left quite a mess on the ground. The inner branches were a little thicker and required a little more work. I brought out my big branch cutters, and I went to town. Before I knew it, I was 3 quarters into it. My wife was surprised as to how easily it was coming down, and commented that we'd now have a "good look at the un-kept house next door". Before I knew it, the bush had been disassembled and was sitting on the burn pile.

The roots were still sticking out of the ground, and I could see at least 7 places in this area where the bush has once emerged from the ground. Instead of clipping everything really close to the ground, I thought I'd probably just dig up the roots. I got 2 out in about an hour, and then I broke a shovel. I went to my back up, and that fucking broke too. I was tired. I was pissed.

And now I don't even have a shovel.

Maybe it was because I was wearing my KTC shirt, or maybe I was just remembering THIS awesome post. Maybe it was because I was doing yard work without a single craving...

But I sat down, and I realized that I didn't have to kill this all off at once. Like nicotine, this bush doesn't magically just "disappear". The small branches come off easily, but there's some bigger stuff underneath that. Once I get rid of those, there's still some roots that I need to tend to. Each layer of my quit required a different tool: I can use the clippers (will power) to get through the initial branches, but I have to pull out my big clippers (attitude change) to get through those major branches. Once I clear through all that, I pull out my shovel (consistency, roll call). Along the way, I've broken a few tools. That shit doesn't stop me though. I just get another.

I'm an impatient man, and it urks me that I have a dead spot in my yard with some ankle slicing roots sticking out of it. But at lunch today, I'm getting another shovel.

It will be gone (at least the pieces I can get to). As long as I stay vigilant on this, it won't become the hassle it was before. That means I need to watch for any roots sprouting and clip those off immediately. If I ignore those things, I'll be right back to where I was before.

Stay quit. We can do this.
When I wrote this, it was beautiful outside.

Since then, it has rained ever since. No progress, but it has not been forgotten.
In the end I Surrender, I and I alone accept that I have and always will have a Nicotene ADDICTION. It is my choice to quit, but I can't do it alone. I get to go down this path one time, I want to do it right. I recognize that my word, my integrety to you is on the line and is only as good as my actions. Caving is not an option in this plan-Eafman 7/11

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Re: I'm back
« Reply #423 on: April 28, 2014, 12:00:00 PM »
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Re: I'm back
« Reply #422 on: April 28, 2014, 11:58:00 AM »
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I have kind of avoided you waste...i don't know why really...but you're an inspiration to a guy like me...thanks for that post.
It's the avatar, man.

It will haunt you if you cave.

(Thanks)
In the end I Surrender, I and I alone accept that I have and always will have a Nicotene ADDICTION. It is my choice to quit, but I can't do it alone. I get to go down this path one time, I want to do it right. I recognize that my word, my integrety to you is on the line and is only as good as my actions. Caving is not an option in this plan-Eafman 7/11

I am not cured. I will quit one day at a time. I will continue to do what works. Posting roll everyday. To do otherwise would be foolish on my part. You can do this-Ready 12/11

To overcome your addiction you must comprehend what it means to fail-Razd 3/12

Theres a lot of people that come here, especially vets, that WANT to be reminded that they are addicts.-Tarpon 6/12

Just as a building starts with architectural drawings. Your daily quit begins with a promise.-Scowick 2/13

Here and now, focused on today, minute by minute, whatever it takes, I promise to all my bros and myself not to become a negative stat and stay quit!-krok 1/15

I want everyone to be quit. Even the assholes.-Probe1957 1/18

Ignoring history or erasing history fixes nothing and leads you inevitably down the same path.-69franx 04/30/2021