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Re: I'm back
« Reply #181 on: September 04, 2012, 09:51:00 PM »
Today, I had a pretty shitty moment despite the fact that I am becoming more and more centered.

My oldest's friend came over to play, and they found my old hiding spot of cans. I thought I had cleaned them all out. I even had gone so far as to show Mrs. Panel it in case she suspected I had started again a few months ago.

Anyways, they had magnets and managed to attract a can. Then another. Then another.

There were 4 all together, and the boys thought this shit was cool.

They decided to hide them places, and use the magnets to pick them up.

Imagine my surprise to walk downstairs and find 3 kids playing Skoal cans.

I gave all of them the trapjaw "You don't want to do this" speech, and told them how bad it was to quit. I explained to each of them that I had started because it made my head feel funny and I liked it. Before I knew it, I didn't want to do it anymore but didn't really know how to stop (but mostly just afraid). I told them that my body pretty much hated me for a long ass time, and that there are still days where my jaw is sore or my mind tells me it sounds good. Then I told them my day count, and that I remember that so I know that it is no longer an option in my life.

It pretty much sucked.

I haven't been that ashamed of it in a long time, and I remember why I explained it off in the past as "adult stuff". Shit is hard to explain, and takes a toll on you when you see curious non-understanding eyes.

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The River, The Woods by Astronautalis
Quote
Where ever we go, we'll never be lost,
Some follow the compass, some follow the cross
Me, I follow roads compulsively, till sirens call me off.
Then I wander, eyes closed, following songs
This rivers a hymnal, the leaves are applause
The trees sing in whispers, with the wind pulling their arms
Hold still, and listen, your hand on my heart,
If you need them, these beacons will lead you back to the start.

Yup.
No ax has seen these woods since before your father stood
The path is beaten good from the feet of all who wandered through it.
Old growth, holds hope, let the brambles scrape your skin
Scars are storybooks, the blood will wash away your sins.

Now let that sun slip, then let that moon rise
Follow in no footsteps, listen for the true guides.
Woods will play tricks upon pretty blue eyes
Is that glimmer the river, or your village finally brought back to life?

Follow me tonight, I'll show you what's it like
to be alive.

I know it seems like we're all lost, we see the secrets, we know the unknown
know the unknown,
know the unknown.
Keep close, hold my hand now, just be strong,
We can follow this river right back to your home
back to your home,
back to your home.

At the palace in Versilles, 400 years before this,
They are packing up supplies, preparing for a long trip
That they may not survive, but many of them know this,
They would rather die, than to leave the question open.

So this is why we try? We bet it all on hopeless?
And swim against the tide till until our every bone is broken
a sinking ship is still a ship, no captain has spoke the obit
Till the crew is flew, crow's nest slips silent beneath the ocean
we set sail without an anchor, we count upon that never stop
An anchor's just a coffin nail, waiting for that hammer drop
It holds you by the ankles till it pulls you to the Acheron
trade stable to be able to slip out from under devil's thumb

Keep your acres, my home is where my hat is hung,
postcard printed paper, and love notes from the lattice rungs.
Blessed are the vagrant, the lonely are the static ones,
It's every drifter's confirmation this world is just ravishing.

I know it seems like we're all lost, we can follow this river back home,
river back home,
river back home
I know it seems like we're all lost, we see the secrets, we know the unknown
know the unknown,
know the unknown
Keep close, hold my hand now, just be strong,
We can follow this river right back to your home
back to your home,
back to your home
I know it seems like we're all lost, we see the secrets, we know the unknown
know the unknown,
know the unknown
In the end I Surrender, I and I alone accept that I have and always will have a Nicotene ADDICTION. It is my choice to quit, but I can't do it alone. I get to go down this path one time, I want to do it right. I recognize that my word, my integrety to you is on the line and is only as good as my actions. Caving is not an option in this plan-Eafman 7/11

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Re: I'm back
« Reply #180 on: August 27, 2012, 11:15:00 AM »
Quote from: rgross298
Quote from: wastepanel
I am so sick and fucking tired of hearing stoppers claim they just want to feel "normal".  Some of them have barely even stopped, and already this want of "normalcy" has overwhelmed them and driven them back to their drug.

Fuck.That.Shit.

Let me tell you what I remember when I was normal:

I was a 270 pound piece of shit douchebag.

I sat around in my office and my home without any energy to move.  When my boys (2 and 6 at the time) asked me to play outside, I had to throw in a lip full of junk.  I couldn't "run around" with them because I would get all winded, hot, and my head felt like I was going to stroke out.  This was all preceded by some of the junk (I willingly put in my mouth) breaking free from my lip causing me to choke at some point and cough until little spots appeared before my eyes.  I would pull it out of my lip, disgusted at me and it.  Ten minutes later, I'd go back for another.

I was not content leaving my can somewhere on the counter or refrigerator.  I needed to have it on my body at all times.  If I was wearing sweat pants or loose fitting pants, my can would fall out onto the floor where me and my sons were playing.  My six year old would pick this off the ground, sometimes open it, and would ask me what it was.  I would blow off his question by answering "adult stuff".

I would go through a drivethrough with my boys, and get a can.  Everytime, my oldest would ask me what Skoal Straight was.  Again, "Adult Stuff".  Not only did I waste a bunch of money on my addiction, I would buy them Bug Juice's (children's sugar flavored crack water) and make them insane.  I bought my oldest a can of shredded beef jerky once, and he promptly came home and packed in front of my wife.

But I was normal because I had my drug.

I would sleep in a chair at night despite my wife begging me to come to bed.  Sometimes, I would oblige her by spitting out my drug, brushing my teeth, fucking like a jack rabbit with a match in its mouth, and quickly retire back to my chair.  I seriously wondered how exactly to ninja in the nic bitch into our bedroom.

This last chew was so important to me that most nights, I would stuff my face and fall asleep.  At some point, I would choke because I would wake up out of breath with my heart racing.  I would alleviate this by cleaning off my face, putting in a fresh chew, and staying up the rest of the night.  Sometimes, I would take it out of my mouth while I was 90% asleep and stuff it down the cushion.  When we would clean under the chair, there would be piles and piles of little brown turds falling out of the chair and laying underneath.  My wife's face would turn beet red when she'd find this.

But I was fucking normal because I had my drug

My health was failing badly.  My blood pressure was starting to skyrocket, and I was showing more and more signs of oncoming diabetes.  I was also sleeping horribly (probably some sleep apnea in there as well) and that led to me being sick quite often.  I heated up like a furnace post meals, and would stuff food into my face so quickly I never realized how much I was actually eating.  You see, I had a "time window" to finish my meal before my body rejected food instead for my drug.

I chose this fucking fucking drug over my sons, my wife, and my life. 

HOW THE FUCK IS THIS "NORMAL"?? 

When times are good, we practice for the bad.  When times are bad, we lean on our instincts and our tools we've learned.  You weren't a porn star philantrophist playboy that had the world by the short and curlies when you were using.  You were a pathetic addict with high self esteem.

We choose our own paths in this life.

I choose to quit.

Do you?
Stunning post, par for Wastepanel. This guy says what most of us either don't have the balls to or have suppressed and forgotten. Tobacco turned all of us into disgusting turds.

For those of you Big Tobacco Apologists out there, the ones who think it's chivalrous to not blame big Tobacco because "they're just a business" and who want to feel like you were addicted by conscious choice, I suggest re-reading Waste's essay here a few times.

Do you not identify with him? The hopelessness? The disgust? The self-loathing imagery? Do you think he consciously enjoyed using tobacco, or that he had a freewill choice? Still think Big Tobacco is just a company with nothing to blame?

Get angry. Stay quit. Rock on.

And today, I quit with the mighty Wastepanel.
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Re: I'm back
« Reply #179 on: August 27, 2012, 10:51:00 AM »
Quote from: mcarmo44
Quote from: kdip
Quote from: Eric71
Quote from: rgross298
Quote from: wastepanel
I am so sick and fucking tired of hearing stoppers claim they just want to feel "normal".  Some of them have barely even stopped, and already this want of "normalcy" has overwhelmed them and driven them back to their drug.

Fuck.That.Shit.

Let me tell you what I remember when I was normal:

I was a 270 pound piece of shit douchebag.

I sat around in my office and my home without any energy to move.  When my boys (2 and 6 at the time) asked me to play outside, I had to throw in a lip full of junk.  I couldn't "run around" with them because I would get all winded, hot, and my head felt like I was going to stroke out.  This was all preceded by some of the junk (I willingly put in my mouth) breaking free from my lip causing me to choke at some point and cough until little spots appeared before my eyes.  I would pull it out of my lip, disgusted at me and it.  Ten minutes later, I'd go back for another.

I was not content leaving my can somewhere on the counter or refrigerator.  I needed to have it on my body at all times.  If I was wearing sweat pants or loose fitting pants, my can would fall out onto the floor where me and my sons were playing.  My six year old would pick this off the ground, sometimes open it, and would ask me what it was.  I would blow off his question by answering "adult stuff".

I would go through a drivethrough with my boys, and get a can.  Everytime, my oldest would ask me what Skoal Straight was.  Again, "Adult Stuff".  Not only did I waste a bunch of money on my addiction, I would buy them Bug Juice's (children's sugar flavored crack water) and make them insane.  I bought my oldest a can of shredded beef jerky once, and he promptly came home and packed in front of my wife.

But I was normal because I had my drug.

I would sleep in a chair at night despite my wife begging me to come to bed.  Sometimes, I would oblige her by spitting out my drug, brushing my teeth, fucking like a jack rabbit with a match in its mouth, and quickly retire back to my chair.  I seriously wondered how exactly to ninja in the nic bitch into our bedroom.

This last chew was so important to me that most nights, I would stuff my face and fall asleep.  At some point, I would choke because I would wake up out of breath with my heart racing.  I would alleviate this by cleaning off my face, putting in a fresh chew, and staying up the rest of the night.  Sometimes, I would take it out of my mouth while I was 90% asleep and stuff it down the cushion.  When we would clean under the chair, there would be piles and piles of little brown turds falling out of the chair and laying underneath.  My wife's face would turn beet red when she'd find this.

But I was fucking normal because I had my drug

My health was failing badly.  My blood pressure was starting to skyrocket, and I was showing more and more signs of oncoming diabetes.  I was also sleeping horribly (probably some sleep apnea in there as well) and that led to me being sick quite often.  I heated up like a furnace post meals, and would stuff food into my face so quickly I never realized how much I was actually eating.  You see, I had a "time window" to finish my meal before my body rejected food instead for my drug.

I chose this fucking fucking drug over my sons, my wife, and my life. 

HOW THE FUCK IS THIS "NORMAL"?? 

When times are good, we practice for the bad.  When times are bad, we lean on our instincts and our tools we've learned.  You weren't a porn star philantrophist playboy that had the world by the short and curlies when you were using.  You were a pathetic addict with high self esteem.

We choose our own paths in this life.

I choose to quit.

Do you?
Stunning post, par for Wastepanel. This guy says what most of us either don't have the balls to or have suppressed and forgotten. Tobacco turned all of us into disgusting turds.

For those of you Big Tobacco Apologists out there, the ones who think it's chivalrous to not blame big Tobacco because "they're just a business" and who want to feel like you were addicted by conscious choice, I suggest re-reading Waste's essay here a few times.

Do you not identify with him? The hopelessness? The disgust? The self-loathing imagery? Do you think he consciously enjoyed using tobacco, or that he had a freewill choice? Still think Big Tobacco is just a company with nothing to blame?

Get angry. Stay quit. Rock on.

And today, I quit with the mighty Wastepanel.
I'll take the normal I get by posting roll here everyday over what we all were in one way, shape, or form. Waste, that is dead fucking on and I am proud as hell to be quit with the likes of you.

QLAFM
Awesome Post Wastepanel!!! Couldnn't have called a spade better!!!
Great Post Waste. I grew up in an alcoholic household so my "normal" was chaos. As an adult, married and with a family I chased my idea of "normal" with a passion. It drove my wife crazy and caused numerous problems in our marriage. It took me several years, lots of books, and a lot of soul searching to realize there is no "normal." At least I haven't found the same definition from two different people. I chose a a few years back to try for healthy. Healthy is much more black and white. Quitting was a big step in me getting healthy, although it wasn't until well into my quest for the HOF that I realized how unhealthy mentally my addiction had been, I am still and addict but by choosing freedom I choose health over drug and that is huge.

Waste you have been a huge part of that, more than you will probably ever know, so thanks Brother for everything.
As always great post brother!

Some people know the right thing to say at the right time while others just know the best way to say anything!

Keep on keeping on brother.
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Re: I'm back
« Reply #178 on: August 25, 2012, 11:02:00 AM »
Quote from: kdip
Quote from: Eric71
Quote from: rgross298
Quote from: wastepanel
I am so sick and fucking tired of hearing stoppers claim they just want to feel "normal".  Some of them have barely even stopped, and already this want of "normalcy" has overwhelmed them and driven them back to their drug.

Fuck.That.Shit.

Let me tell you what I remember when I was normal:

I was a 270 pound piece of shit douchebag.

I sat around in my office and my home without any energy to move.  When my boys (2 and 6 at the time) asked me to play outside, I had to throw in a lip full of junk.  I couldn't "run around" with them because I would get all winded, hot, and my head felt like I was going to stroke out.  This was all preceded by some of the junk (I willingly put in my mouth) breaking free from my lip causing me to choke at some point and cough until little spots appeared before my eyes.  I would pull it out of my lip, disgusted at me and it.  Ten minutes later, I'd go back for another.

I was not content leaving my can somewhere on the counter or refrigerator.  I needed to have it on my body at all times.  If I was wearing sweat pants or loose fitting pants, my can would fall out onto the floor where me and my sons were playing.  My six year old would pick this off the ground, sometimes open it, and would ask me what it was.  I would blow off his question by answering "adult stuff".

I would go through a drivethrough with my boys, and get a can.  Everytime, my oldest would ask me what Skoal Straight was.  Again, "Adult Stuff".  Not only did I waste a bunch of money on my addiction, I would buy them Bug Juice's (children's sugar flavored crack water) and make them insane.  I bought my oldest a can of shredded beef jerky once, and he promptly came home and packed in front of my wife.

But I was normal because I had my drug.

I would sleep in a chair at night despite my wife begging me to come to bed.  Sometimes, I would oblige her by spitting out my drug, brushing my teeth, fucking like a jack rabbit with a match in its mouth, and quickly retire back to my chair.  I seriously wondered how exactly to ninja in the nic bitch into our bedroom.

This last chew was so important to me that most nights, I would stuff my face and fall asleep.  At some point, I would choke because I would wake up out of breath with my heart racing.  I would alleviate this by cleaning off my face, putting in a fresh chew, and staying up the rest of the night.  Sometimes, I would take it out of my mouth while I was 90% asleep and stuff it down the cushion.  When we would clean under the chair, there would be piles and piles of little brown turds falling out of the chair and laying underneath.  My wife's face would turn beet red when she'd find this.

But I was fucking normal because I had my drug

My health was failing badly.  My blood pressure was starting to skyrocket, and I was showing more and more signs of oncoming diabetes.  I was also sleeping horribly (probably some sleep apnea in there as well) and that led to me being sick quite often.  I heated up like a furnace post meals, and would stuff food into my face so quickly I never realized how much I was actually eating.  You see, I had a "time window" to finish my meal before my body rejected food instead for my drug.

I chose this fucking fucking drug over my sons, my wife, and my life. 

HOW THE FUCK IS THIS "NORMAL"?? 

When times are good, we practice for the bad.  When times are bad, we lean on our instincts and our tools we've learned.  You weren't a porn star philantrophist playboy that had the world by the short and curlies when you were using.  You were a pathetic addict with high self esteem.

We choose our own paths in this life.

I choose to quit.

Do you?
Stunning post, par for Wastepanel. This guy says what most of us either don't have the balls to or have suppressed and forgotten. Tobacco turned all of us into disgusting turds.

For those of you Big Tobacco Apologists out there, the ones who think it's chivalrous to not blame big Tobacco because "they're just a business" and who want to feel like you were addicted by conscious choice, I suggest re-reading Waste's essay here a few times.

Do you not identify with him? The hopelessness? The disgust? The self-loathing imagery? Do you think he consciously enjoyed using tobacco, or that he had a freewill choice? Still think Big Tobacco is just a company with nothing to blame?

Get angry. Stay quit. Rock on.

And today, I quit with the mighty Wastepanel.
I'll take the normal I get by posting roll here everyday over what we all were in one way, shape, or form. Waste, that is dead fucking on and I am proud as hell to be quit with the likes of you.

QLAFM
Awesome Post Wastepanel!!! Couldnn't have called a spade better!!!
Great Post Waste. I grew up in an alcoholic household so my "normal" was chaos. As an adult, married and with a family I chased my idea of "normal" with a passion. It drove my wife crazy and caused numerous problems in our marriage. It took me several years, lots of books, and a lot of soul searching to realize there is no "normal." At least I haven't found the same definition from two different people. I chose a a few years back to try for healthy. Healthy is much more black and white. Quitting was a big step in me getting healthy, although it wasn't until well into my quest for the HOF that I realized how unhealthy mentally my addiction had been, I am still and addict but by choosing freedom I choose health over drug and that is huge.

Waste you have been a huge part of that, more than you will probably ever know, so thanks Brother for everything.
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Re: I'm back
« Reply #177 on: August 25, 2012, 10:29:00 AM »
Quote from: Eric71
Quote from: rgross298
Quote from: wastepanel
I am so sick and fucking tired of hearing stoppers claim they just want to feel "normal".  Some of them have barely even stopped, and already this want of "normalcy" has overwhelmed them and driven them back to their drug.

Fuck.That.Shit.

Let me tell you what I remember when I was normal:

I was a 270 pound piece of shit douchebag.

I sat around in my office and my home without any energy to move.  When my boys (2 and 6 at the time) asked me to play outside, I had to throw in a lip full of junk.  I couldn't "run around" with them because I would get all winded, hot, and my head felt like I was going to stroke out.  This was all preceded by some of the junk (I willingly put in my mouth) breaking free from my lip causing me to choke at some point and cough until little spots appeared before my eyes.  I would pull it out of my lip, disgusted at me and it.  Ten minutes later, I'd go back for another.

I was not content leaving my can somewhere on the counter or refrigerator.  I needed to have it on my body at all times.  If I was wearing sweat pants or loose fitting pants, my can would fall out onto the floor where me and my sons were playing.  My six year old would pick this off the ground, sometimes open it, and would ask me what it was.  I would blow off his question by answering "adult stuff".

I would go through a drivethrough with my boys, and get a can.  Everytime, my oldest would ask me what Skoal Straight was.  Again, "Adult Stuff".  Not only did I waste a bunch of money on my addiction, I would buy them Bug Juice's (children's sugar flavored crack water) and make them insane.  I bought my oldest a can of shredded beef jerky once, and he promptly came home and packed in front of my wife.

But I was normal because I had my drug.

I would sleep in a chair at night despite my wife begging me to come to bed.  Sometimes, I would oblige her by spitting out my drug, brushing my teeth, fucking like a jack rabbit with a match in its mouth, and quickly retire back to my chair.  I seriously wondered how exactly to ninja in the nic bitch into our bedroom.

This last chew was so important to me that most nights, I would stuff my face and fall asleep.  At some point, I would choke because I would wake up out of breath with my heart racing.  I would alleviate this by cleaning off my face, putting in a fresh chew, and staying up the rest of the night.  Sometimes, I would take it out of my mouth while I was 90% asleep and stuff it down the cushion.  When we would clean under the chair, there would be piles and piles of little brown turds falling out of the chair and laying underneath.  My wife's face would turn beet red when she'd find this.

But I was fucking normal because I had my drug

My health was failing badly.  My blood pressure was starting to skyrocket, and I was showing more and more signs of oncoming diabetes.  I was also sleeping horribly (probably some sleep apnea in there as well) and that led to me being sick quite often.  I heated up like a furnace post meals, and would stuff food into my face so quickly I never realized how much I was actually eating.  You see, I had a "time window" to finish my meal before my body rejected food instead for my drug.

I chose this fucking fucking drug over my sons, my wife, and my life. 

HOW THE FUCK IS THIS "NORMAL"?? 

When times are good, we practice for the bad.  When times are bad, we lean on our instincts and our tools we've learned.  You weren't a porn star philantrophist playboy that had the world by the short and curlies when you were using.  You were a pathetic addict with high self esteem.

We choose our own paths in this life.

I choose to quit.

Do you?
Stunning post, par for Wastepanel. This guy says what most of us either don't have the balls to or have suppressed and forgotten. Tobacco turned all of us into disgusting turds.

For those of you Big Tobacco Apologists out there, the ones who think it's chivalrous to not blame big Tobacco because "they're just a business" and who want to feel like you were addicted by conscious choice, I suggest re-reading Waste's essay here a few times.

Do you not identify with him? The hopelessness? The disgust? The self-loathing imagery? Do you think he consciously enjoyed using tobacco, or that he had a freewill choice? Still think Big Tobacco is just a company with nothing to blame?

Get angry. Stay quit. Rock on.

And today, I quit with the mighty Wastepanel.
I'll take the normal I get by posting roll here everyday over what we all were in one way, shape, or form. Waste, that is dead fucking on and I am proud as hell to be quit with the likes of you.

QLAFM
Awesome Post Wastepanel!!! Couldnn't have called a spade better!!!

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Re: I'm back
« Reply #176 on: August 25, 2012, 10:19:00 AM »
Quote from: rgross298
Quote from: wastepanel
I am so sick and fucking tired of hearing stoppers claim they just want to feel "normal".  Some of them have barely even stopped, and already this want of "normalcy" has overwhelmed them and driven them back to their drug.

Fuck.That.Shit.

Let me tell you what I remember when I was normal:

I was a 270 pound piece of shit douchebag.

I sat around in my office and my home without any energy to move.  When my boys (2 and 6 at the time) asked me to play outside, I had to throw in a lip full of junk.  I couldn't "run around" with them because I would get all winded, hot, and my head felt like I was going to stroke out.  This was all preceded by some of the junk (I willingly put in my mouth) breaking free from my lip causing me to choke at some point and cough until little spots appeared before my eyes.  I would pull it out of my lip, disgusted at me and it.  Ten minutes later, I'd go back for another.

I was not content leaving my can somewhere on the counter or refrigerator.  I needed to have it on my body at all times.  If I was wearing sweat pants or loose fitting pants, my can would fall out onto the floor where me and my sons were playing.  My six year old would pick this off the ground, sometimes open it, and would ask me what it was.  I would blow off his question by answering "adult stuff".

I would go through a drivethrough with my boys, and get a can.  Everytime, my oldest would ask me what Skoal Straight was.  Again, "Adult Stuff".  Not only did I waste a bunch of money on my addiction, I would buy them Bug Juice's (children's sugar flavored crack water) and make them insane.  I bought my oldest a can of shredded beef jerky once, and he promptly came home and packed in front of my wife.

But I was normal because I had my drug.

I would sleep in a chair at night despite my wife begging me to come to bed.  Sometimes, I would oblige her by spitting out my drug, brushing my teeth, fucking like a jack rabbit with a match in its mouth, and quickly retire back to my chair.  I seriously wondered how exactly to ninja in the nic bitch into our bedroom.

This last chew was so important to me that most nights, I would stuff my face and fall asleep.  At some point, I would choke because I would wake up out of breath with my heart racing.  I would alleviate this by cleaning off my face, putting in a fresh chew, and staying up the rest of the night.  Sometimes, I would take it out of my mouth while I was 90% asleep and stuff it down the cushion.  When we would clean under the chair, there would be piles and piles of little brown turds falling out of the chair and laying underneath.  My wife's face would turn beet red when she'd find this.

But I was fucking normal because I had my drug

My health was failing badly.  My blood pressure was starting to skyrocket, and I was showing more and more signs of oncoming diabetes.  I was also sleeping horribly (probably some sleep apnea in there as well) and that led to me being sick quite often.  I heated up like a furnace post meals, and would stuff food into my face so quickly I never realized how much I was actually eating.  You see, I had a "time window" to finish my meal before my body rejected food instead for my drug.

I chose this fucking fucking drug over my sons, my wife, and my life. 

HOW THE FUCK IS THIS "NORMAL"?? 

When times are good, we practice for the bad.  When times are bad, we lean on our instincts and our tools we've learned.  You weren't a porn star philantrophist playboy that had the world by the short and curlies when you were using.  You were a pathetic addict with high self esteem.

We choose our own paths in this life.

I choose to quit.

Do you?
Stunning post, par for Wastepanel. This guy says what most of us either don't have the balls to or have suppressed and forgotten. Tobacco turned all of us into disgusting turds.

For those of you Big Tobacco Apologists out there, the ones who think it's chivalrous to not blame big Tobacco because "they're just a business" and who want to feel like you were addicted by conscious choice, I suggest re-reading Waste's essay here a few times.

Do you not identify with him? The hopelessness? The disgust? The self-loathing imagery? Do you think he consciously enjoyed using tobacco, or that he had a freewill choice? Still think Big Tobacco is just a company with nothing to blame?

Get angry. Stay quit. Rock on.

And today, I quit with the mighty Wastepanel.
I'll take the normal I get by posting roll here everyday over what we all were in one way, shape, or form. Waste, that is dead fucking on and I am proud as hell to be quit with the likes of you.

QLAFM

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Re: I'm back
« Reply #175 on: August 24, 2012, 10:06:00 AM »
Quote from: wastepanel
I am so sick and fucking tired of hearing stoppers claim they just want to feel "normal". Some of them have barely even stopped, and already this want of "normalcy" has overwhelmed them and driven them back to their drug.

Fuck.That.Shit.

Let me tell you what I remember when I was normal:

I was a 270 pound piece of shit douchebag.

I sat around in my office and my home without any energy to move. When my boys (2 and 6 at the time) asked me to play outside, I had to throw in a lip full of junk. I couldn't "run around" with them because I would get all winded, hot, and my head felt like I was going to stroke out. This was all preceded by some of the junk (I willingly put in my mouth) breaking free from my lip causing me to choke at some point and cough until little spots appeared before my eyes. I would pull it out of my lip, disgusted at me and it. Ten minutes later, I'd go back for another.

I was not content leaving my can somewhere on the counter or refrigerator. I needed to have it on my body at all times. If I was wearing sweat pants or loose fitting pants, my can would fall out onto the floor where me and my sons were playing. My six year old would pick this off the ground, sometimes open it, and would ask me what it was. I would blow off his question by answering "adult stuff".

I would go through a drivethrough with my boys, and get a can. Everytime, my oldest would ask me what Skoal Straight was. Again, "Adult Stuff". Not only did I waste a bunch of money on my addiction, I would buy them Bug Juice's (children's sugar flavored crack water) and make them insane. I bought my oldest a can of shredded beef jerky once, and he promptly came home and packed in front of my wife.

But I was normal because I had my drug.

I would sleep in a chair at night despite my wife begging me to come to bed. Sometimes, I would oblige her by spitting out my drug, brushing my teeth, fucking like a jack rabbit with a match in its mouth, and quickly retire back to my chair. I seriously wondered how exactly to ninja in the nic bitch into our bedroom.

This last chew was so important to me that most nights, I would stuff my face and fall asleep. At some point, I would choke because I would wake up out of breath with my heart racing. I would alleviate this by cleaning off my face, putting in a fresh chew, and staying up the rest of the night. Sometimes, I would take it out of my mouth while I was 90% asleep and stuff it down the cushion. When we would clean under the chair, there would be piles and piles of little brown turds falling out of the chair and laying underneath. My wife's face would turn beet red when she'd find this.

But I was fucking normal because I had my drug

My health was failing badly. My blood pressure was starting to skyrocket, and I was showing more and more signs of oncoming diabetes. I was also sleeping horribly (probably some sleep apnea in there as well) and that led to me being sick quite often. I heated up like a furnace post meals, and would stuff food into my face so quickly I never realized how much I was actually eating. You see, I had a "time window" to finish my meal before my body rejected food instead for my drug.

I chose this fucking fucking drug over my sons, my wife, and my life.

HOW THE FUCK IS THIS "NORMAL"??

When times are good, we practice for the bad. When times are bad, we lean on our instincts and our tools we've learned. You weren't a porn star philantrophist playboy that had the world by the short and curlies when you were using. You were a pathetic addict with high self esteem.

We choose our own paths in this life.

I choose to quit.

Do you?
Stunning post, par for Wastepanel. This guy says what most of us either don't have the balls to or have suppressed and forgotten. Tobacco turned all of us into disgusting turds.

For those of you Big Tobacco Apologists out there, the ones who think it's chivalrous to not blame big Tobacco because "they're just a business" and who want to feel like you were addicted by conscious choice, I suggest re-reading Waste's essay here a few times.

Do you not identify with him? The hopelessness? The disgust? The self-loathing imagery? Do you think he consciously enjoyed using tobacco, or that he had a freewill choice? Still think Big Tobacco is just a company with nothing to blame?

Get angry. Stay quit. Rock on.

And today, I quit with the mighty Wastepanel.

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Re: I'm back
« Reply #174 on: August 24, 2012, 09:58:00 AM »
Quote from: wastepanel
I am so sick and fucking tired of hearing stoppers claim they just want to feel "normal". Some of them have barely even stopped, and already this want of "normalcy" has overwhelmed them and driven them back to their drug.

Fuck.That.Shit.

Let me tell you what I remember when I was normal:

I was a 270 pound piece of shit douchebag.

I sat around in my office and my home without any energy to move. When my boys (2 and 6 at the time) asked me to play outside, I had to throw in a lip full of junk. I couldn't "run around" with them because I would get all winded, hot, and my head felt like I was going to stroke out. This was all preceded by some of the junk (I willingly put in my mouth) breaking free from my lip causing me to choke at some point and cough until little spots appeared before my eyes. I would pull it out of my lip, disgusted at me and it. Ten minutes later, I'd go back for another.

I was not content leaving my can somewhere on the counter or refrigerator. I needed to have it on my body at all times. If I was wearing sweat pants or loose fitting pants, my can would fall out onto the floor where me and my sons were playing. My six year old would pick this off the ground, sometimes open it, and would ask me what it was. I would blow off his question by answering "adult stuff".

I would go through a drivethrough with my boys, and get a can. Everytime, my oldest would ask me what Skoal Straight was. Again, "Adult Stuff". Not only did I waste a bunch of money on my addiction, I would buy them Bug Juice's (children's sugar flavored crack water) and make them insane. I bought my oldest a can of shredded beef jerky once, and he promptly came home and packed in front of my wife.

But I was normal because I had my drug.

I would sleep in a chair at night despite my wife begging me to come to bed. Sometimes, I would oblige her by spitting out my drug, brushing my teeth, fucking like a jack rabbit with a match in its mouth, and quickly retire back to my chair. I seriously wondered how exactly to ninja in the nic bitch into our bedroom.

This last chew was so important to me that most nights, I would stuff my face and fall asleep. At some point, I would choke because I would wake up out of breath with my heart racing. I would alleviate this by cleaning off my face, putting in a fresh chew, and staying up the rest of the night. Sometimes, I would take it out of my mouth while I was 90% asleep and stuff it down the cushion. When we would clean under the chair, there would be piles and piles of little brown turds falling out of the chair and laying underneath. My wife's face would turn beet red when she'd find this.

But I was fucking normal because I had my drug

My health was failing badly. My blood pressure was starting to skyrocket, and I was showing more and more signs of oncoming diabetes. I was also sleeping horribly (probably some sleep apnea in there as well) and that led to me being sick quite often. I heated up like a furnace post meals, and would stuff food into my face so quickly I never realized how much I was actually eating. You see, I had a "time window" to finish my meal before my body rejected food instead for my drug.

I chose this fucking fucking drug over my sons, my wife, and my life.

HOW THE FUCK IS THIS "NORMAL"??

When times are good, we practice for the bad. When times are bad, we lean on our instincts and our tools we've learned. You weren't a porn star philantrophist playboy that had the world by the short and curlies when you were using. You were a pathetic addict with high self esteem.

We choose our own paths in this life.

I choose to quit.

Do you?
thank you for that post.. the right words at the right time for me.. I crave normal, not nic...
we choose our battles.. the battles we do fight, be aware that they have to be, but passion rules? James Hetfield

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Re: I'm back
« Reply #173 on: August 24, 2012, 08:39:00 AM »
I am so sick and fucking tired of hearing stoppers claim they just want to feel "normal". Some of them have barely even stopped, and already this want of "normalcy" has overwhelmed them and driven them back to their drug.

Fuck.That.Shit.

Let me tell you what I remember when I was normal:

I was a 270 pound piece of shit douchebag.

I sat around in my office and my home without any energy to move. When my boys (2 and 6 at the time) asked me to play outside, I had to throw in a lip full of junk. I couldn't "run around" with them because I would get all winded, hot, and my head felt like I was going to stroke out. This was all preceded by some of the junk (I willingly put in my mouth) breaking free from my lip causing me to choke at some point and cough until little spots appeared before my eyes. I would pull it out of my lip, disgusted at me and it. Ten minutes later, I'd go back for another.

I was not content leaving my can somewhere on the counter or refrigerator. I needed to have it on my body at all times. If I was wearing sweat pants or loose fitting pants, my can would fall out onto the floor where me and my sons were playing. My six year old would pick this off the ground, sometimes open it, and would ask me what it was. I would blow off his question by answering "adult stuff".

I would go through a drivethrough with my boys, and get a can. Everytime, my oldest would ask me what Skoal Straight was. Again, "Adult Stuff". Not only did I waste a bunch of money on my addiction, I would buy them Bug Juice's (children's sugar flavored crack water) and make them insane. I bought my oldest a can of shredded beef jerky once, and he promptly came home and packed in front of my wife.

But I was normal because I had my drug.

I would sleep in a chair at night despite my wife begging me to come to bed. Sometimes, I would oblige her by spitting out my drug, brushing my teeth, fucking like a jack rabbit with a match in its mouth, and quickly retire back to my chair. I seriously wondered how exactly to ninja in the nic bitch into our bedroom.

This last chew was so important to me that most nights, I would stuff my face and fall asleep. At some point, I would choke because I would wake up out of breath with my heart racing. I would alleviate this by cleaning off my face, putting in a fresh chew, and staying up the rest of the night. Sometimes, I would take it out of my mouth while I was 90% asleep and stuff it down the cushion. When we would clean under the chair, there would be piles and piles of little brown turds falling out of the chair and laying underneath. My wife's face would turn beet red when she'd find this.

But I was fucking normal because I had my drug

My health was failing badly. My blood pressure was starting to skyrocket, and I was showing more and more signs of oncoming diabetes. I was also sleeping horribly (probably some sleep apnea in there as well) and that led to me being sick quite often. I heated up like a furnace post meals, and would stuff food into my face so quickly I never realized how much I was actually eating. You see, I had a "time window" to finish my meal before my body rejected food instead for my drug.

I chose this fucking fucking drug over my sons, my wife, and my life.

HOW THE FUCK IS THIS "NORMAL"??

When times are good, we practice for the bad. When times are bad, we lean on our instincts and our tools we've learned. You weren't a porn star philantrophist playboy that had the world by the short and curlies when you were using. You were a pathetic addict with high self esteem.

We choose our own paths in this life.

I choose to quit.

Do you?
In the end I Surrender, I and I alone accept that I have and always will have a Nicotene ADDICTION. It is my choice to quit, but I can't do it alone. I get to go down this path one time, I want to do it right. I recognize that my word, my integrety to you is on the line and is only as good as my actions. Caving is not an option in this plan-Eafman 7/11

I am not cured. I will quit one day at a time. I will continue to do what works. Posting roll everyday. To do otherwise would be foolish on my part. You can do this-Ready 12/11

To overcome your addiction you must comprehend what it means to fail-Razd 3/12

Theres a lot of people that come here, especially vets, that WANT to be reminded that they are addicts.-Tarpon 6/12

Just as a building starts with architectural drawings. Your daily quit begins with a promise.-Scowick 2/13

Here and now, focused on today, minute by minute, whatever it takes, I promise to all my bros and myself not to become a negative stat and stay quit!-krok 1/15

I want everyone to be quit. Even the assholes.-Probe1957 1/18

Ignoring history or erasing history fixes nothing and leads you inevitably down the same path.-69franx 04/30/2021

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Re: I'm back
« Reply #172 on: August 16, 2012, 01:36:00 PM »
Quote from: Jack
Son, part of getting a second chance is taking responsibility for the mess you made in the first place. You understand me?
If we all did something well the first time, we probably wouldn't learn a damn thing. We are all human, and we do stumble on occasion.

It's how we handle ourselves that says a lot about us as men (and women).

In recent months, I have adopted a 3 tiered plan of redemption in regards to our actions.

Learn from the Past
Quit for Today
Fuck the future.

Sure, we've all fucked up in the past. That's what landed us here to begin with: We knew we needed help and we sought it out. Some of us succeed the first time. Sometimes, the initial will is there and that's about it. If we're going to keep doing the same shit over and over, we will fail again...over and over.

If we do fail, we deserve our "fate" because we never really were trying. If we know failure comes from our actions, why do we continue these actions time and time again without change?

So we learn from these mistakes. We put one foot in front of the other, and we make sure not to duplicate these mistakes again.

A great moment happens when you see that you were ignorant in the past. You grow. You embrace these new steps you've taken because they are successful.

The key to this entire equation is that you need to never forget what led you to failure in the past, and make sure that you won't make those same steps again. You need to know that your past actions were wrong, and show (through your words and actions) that you know that.

Quitting is not about lip service. This is not a magical program that makes you quit. The power lies inside of you, and how you handle the good and bad of yourself.

Part of getting a second chance is taking responsiblity for the mess you made in the first place. The other part is making sure you never make that mess again.

You can do this because we are.
In the end I Surrender, I and I alone accept that I have and always will have a Nicotene ADDICTION. It is my choice to quit, but I can't do it alone. I get to go down this path one time, I want to do it right. I recognize that my word, my integrety to you is on the line and is only as good as my actions. Caving is not an option in this plan-Eafman 7/11

I am not cured. I will quit one day at a time. I will continue to do what works. Posting roll everyday. To do otherwise would be foolish on my part. You can do this-Ready 12/11

To overcome your addiction you must comprehend what it means to fail-Razd 3/12

Theres a lot of people that come here, especially vets, that WANT to be reminded that they are addicts.-Tarpon 6/12

Just as a building starts with architectural drawings. Your daily quit begins with a promise.-Scowick 2/13

Here and now, focused on today, minute by minute, whatever it takes, I promise to all my bros and myself not to become a negative stat and stay quit!-krok 1/15

I want everyone to be quit. Even the assholes.-Probe1957 1/18

Ignoring history or erasing history fixes nothing and leads you inevitably down the same path.-69franx 04/30/2021

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Re: I'm back
« Reply #171 on: August 03, 2012, 08:04:00 AM »
Quote from: wastepanel
DAY 400

What are you willing to do to stay quit?

Are you willing to tell yourself and others that you DO NOT WANT OR NEED to chew today?

Are you willing to admit that you WANT to quit?

Are you willing to admit that those thoughts of NEED dancing through your head are only thoughts of WANT?

Are you willing to look at the devil square in the eyes and say NO?  Are you willing to keep fighting even when the world pushes you to "slip"?

Are you willing to REMEMBER that you are an addict, and that one moment of weakness can lead to failure?

Are you willing to have my back (and others) because it makes you stronger?

Are you willing to admit to yourself that you don't have all the answers, but ultimately this is your boat to steer?

Then I want you on my team.

I will do anything to stay quit today.  No excuses.  No re-do's.

You can do this, because I have.
jrws400
Yes.
Yes. Need and want are different things.
I do not want or need to chew today.
Yes. I want to quit, AND I need to quit.
Yep. Craving is wanting, not needing.
Go to hell and take these tricks with you, Beelzebub.
I am an addict. I have to stay vigilant, over my damn self, because who else is gonna do it?
I got your back, Wastepanel.
I don't know a jib from a jab, but yeah, I can doggy paddle this thing if need be.

Thanks!
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Re: I'm back
« Reply #170 on: August 03, 2012, 07:24:00 AM »
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Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: Swede
Quote from: Morgan1
Quote from: T-Cell
Quote from: Greg5280
Quote from: Ready
Quote from: wastepanel
DAY 400

What are you willing to do to stay quit?

Are you willing to tell yourself and others that you DO NOT WANT OR NEED to chew today?

Are you willing to admit that you WANT to quit?

Are you willing to admit that those thoughts of NEED dancing through your head are only thoughts of WANT?

Are you willing to look at the devil square in the eyes and say NO?  Are you willing to keep fighting even when the world pushes you to "slip"?

Are you willing to REMEMBER that you are an addict, and that one moment of weakness can lead to failure?

Are you willing to have my back (and others) because it makes you stronger?

Are you willing to admit to yourself that you don't have all the answers, but ultimately this is your boat to steer?

Then I want you on my team.

I will do anything to stay quit today.  No excuses.  No re-do's.

You can do this, because I have.
'clap' 'clap' 'clap'

Congrats on the fourth floor brother.
Indeed ! Nice 400
Congrats and nice job WP!
4 hundy. Nice job! With your attitude towards quitting, this number will age right along with you. I'm an admirerer of your quit bro. Congrats..
Congratulation! 'worship' You are a leader!
Great job! Keep writing!
way to go, congrats!
Simply awesome brother! That may be the most inspiring forth floor post ever!
"Remember you are either getting better or getting worse, nobody stays the same!" Woody Hayes

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Re: I'm back
« Reply #169 on: August 03, 2012, 06:38:00 AM »
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: Swede
Quote from: Morgan1
Quote from: T-Cell
Quote from: Greg5280
Quote from: Ready
Quote from: wastepanel
DAY 400

What are you willing to do to stay quit?

Are you willing to tell yourself and others that you DO NOT WANT OR NEED to chew today?

Are you willing to admit that you WANT to quit?

Are you willing to admit that those thoughts of NEED dancing through your head are only thoughts of WANT?

Are you willing to look at the devil square in the eyes and say NO?  Are you willing to keep fighting even when the world pushes you to "slip"?

Are you willing to REMEMBER that you are an addict, and that one moment of weakness can lead to failure?

Are you willing to have my back (and others) because it makes you stronger?

Are you willing to admit to yourself that you don't have all the answers, but ultimately this is your boat to steer?

Then I want you on my team.

I will do anything to stay quit today.  No excuses.  No re-do's.

You can do this, because I have.
'clap' 'clap' 'clap'

Congrats on the fourth floor brother.
Indeed ! Nice 400
Congrats and nice job WP!
4 hundy. Nice job! With your attitude towards quitting, this number will age right along with you. I'm an admirerer of your quit bro. Congrats..
Congratulation! 'worship' You are a leader!
Great job! Keep writing!
way to go, congrats!

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Re: I'm back
« Reply #168 on: August 02, 2012, 07:55:00 PM »
Quote from: Swede
Quote from: Morgan1
Quote from: T-Cell
Quote from: Greg5280
Quote from: Ready
Quote from: wastepanel
DAY 400

What are you willing to do to stay quit?

Are you willing to tell yourself and others that you DO NOT WANT OR NEED to chew today?

Are you willing to admit that you WANT to quit?

Are you willing to admit that those thoughts of NEED dancing through your head are only thoughts of WANT?

Are you willing to look at the devil square in the eyes and say NO?  Are you willing to keep fighting even when the world pushes you to "slip"?

Are you willing to REMEMBER that you are an addict, and that one moment of weakness can lead to failure?

Are you willing to have my back (and others) because it makes you stronger?

Are you willing to admit to yourself that you don't have all the answers, but ultimately this is your boat to steer?

Then I want you on my team.

I will do anything to stay quit today.  No excuses.  No re-do's.

You can do this, because I have.
'clap' 'clap' 'clap'

Congrats on the fourth floor brother.
Indeed ! Nice 400
Congrats and nice job WP!
4 hundy. Nice job! With your attitude towards quitting, this number will age right along with you. I'm an admirerer of your quit bro. Congrats..
Congratulation! 'worship' You are a leader!
Great job! Keep writing!

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Re: I'm back
« Reply #167 on: August 02, 2012, 07:53:00 PM »
Quote from: Morgan1
Quote from: T-Cell
Quote from: Greg5280
Quote from: Ready
Quote from: wastepanel
DAY 400

What are you willing to do to stay quit?

Are you willing to tell yourself and others that you DO NOT WANT OR NEED to chew today?

Are you willing to admit that you WANT to quit?

Are you willing to admit that those thoughts of NEED dancing through your head are only thoughts of WANT?

Are you willing to look at the devil square in the eyes and say NO?  Are you willing to keep fighting even when the world pushes you to "slip"?

Are you willing to REMEMBER that you are an addict, and that one moment of weakness can lead to failure?

Are you willing to have my back (and others) because it makes you stronger?

Are you willing to admit to yourself that you don't have all the answers, but ultimately this is your boat to steer?

Then I want you on my team.

I will do anything to stay quit today.  No excuses.  No re-do's.

You can do this, because I have.
'clap' 'clap' 'clap'

Congrats on the fourth floor brother.
Indeed ! Nice 400
Congrats and nice job WP!
4 hundy. Nice job! With your attitude towards quitting, this number will age right along with you. I'm an admirerer of your quit bro. Congrats..
Congratulation! 'worship' You are a leader!
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