My good cave

[Greg5280]

Profile and Personality of a Quitter
Because of the fact that we addicts come from every walk of life, age, race, religion and sex it would be impossible to give a set profile or personality trait of a quitter. We are each one individuals and unique just as we are in every other aspect of life. That means that the way we react to quitting is also unique to us. I may rage at something you withdraw from. I may have a strong crave to a trigger that you wouldnÂ’t be bothered by, and so on. There are only 2 things that I can think of that all of us have in common. They are we are all addicted to nicotine and we all have a desire to quit it and never go back. Even this second thing we have in common varies greatly, that is evident by the energy that is put into the quit. We see individuals that fail and cave after only a day or two, others cave after years. We cannot change anything about being addicts but we can change the degree that we desire to quit. Most retreads that return have an increased desire, they have reevaluated their quit. Some of us have been addicted longer and have an increased understanding of how enslaved we have been and also realize that we arenÂ’t as invincible as we thought we were in our younger years. It is my opinion that the worse the pain of withdrawal (the suck) is the more you will want to remain quit. Time has a tendency to make us forget things, that goes for the suck. We must find ways to keep it fresh in our minds so if we start thinking that we could sneak just one dip, the next thing that we should think about is that first 2 weeks of SUCK!!!

Adjustment to my Quit Plan
The real purpose of this update to my intro is to make an explanation to my current status. I have several personal issues that are bearing down on me and need to be placed high on my priority list. I have realized that one of my personality traits is that I really hate conflict and that when I am among so many different individuals I have a tendency to do one of two things either I withdraw from controversy or I over-react and say and do things I regret later. When I react in either of these ways my quit is weakened. Because of this IÂ’ve come to the conclusion that I needed to make some adjustments to my Quit Plan. 1. I will post my quit promise as early as possible every day in my July 2012 group (IÂ’m committed to 100 % for another 75 days) 2. My support to other months is still there even if I donÂ’t post it. (I will either text or pm a word of support every day to individuals that I feel support from and have become close quit friends.) 3. I will continue to send a pm welcome to each newbie and offer my support and an offer to share #Â’s. 4. I will still occasionally make comments on serious matters of discussion in the various forums but will avoid posting for the purpose of stirring the pot. (If the drama is to great I will avoid the subject all together it harms quits more than it helps sometimes) 5. I will concentrate on strengthening the relationship that I have with my fellow July brothers, and reach out to them to see that we all stay quit each day. 6. I have worked hard on gaining the trust of my wife over the past 125 days and I am going to really be working on the already great relationship that we have to make it more honest and open. I have lied to and deceived her for far too long and she deserves to have more of my attention.
I realize that from time to time we need to make changes and I am smart enough to recognize if I need to make more adjustments to this plan. I really can never express my appreciation to so many indidviduals here enough.

Excellent post! Proud to be quit with you!

STAY QUIT
Greg

[eric71]

Profile and Personality of a Quitter
Because of the fact that we addicts come from every walk of life, age, race, religion and sex it would be impossible to give a set profile or personality trait of a quitter.  We are each one individuals and unique just as we are in every other aspect of life.  That means that the way we react to quitting is also unique to us.  I may rage at something you withdraw from.  I may have a strong crave to a trigger that you wouldn’t be bothered by, and so on.  There are only 2 things that I can think of that all of us have in common.  They are we are all addicted to nicotine and we all have a desire to quit it and never go back.  Even this second thing we have in common varies greatly, that is evident by the energy that is put into the quit.  We see individuals that fail and cave after only a day or two, others cave after years.  We cannot change anything about being addicts but we can change the degree that we desire to quit.  Most retreads that return have an increased desire, they have reevaluated their quit.  Some of us have been addicted longer and have an increased understanding of how enslaved we have been and also realize that we aren’t as invincible as we thought we were in our younger years.  It is my opinion that the worse the pain of withdrawal (the suck) is the more you will want to remain quit.  Time has a tendency to make us forget things,  that goes for the suck. We must find ways to keep it fresh in our minds so if we start thinking that we could sneak just one dip, the next thing that we should think about is that first 2 weeks of SUCK!!!

Adjustment to my Quit Plan
The real purpose of this update to my intro is to make an explanation to my current status.  I have several personal issues that are bearing down on me and need to be placed high on my priority list.  I have realized that one of my personality  traits is that I really hate conflict and that when I am among so many different  individuals I have a tendency to do one of two things either I withdraw from controversy or I over-react and say and do things I regret later.  When I react in either of these ways my quit is weakened.  Because of this I’ve come to the conclusion that I needed to make some adjustments to my Quit Plan.  1. I will post my quit promise as early as possible every day in my July 2012 group (I’m committed to 100 % for another 75 days)  2. My support to other months is still there even if I don’t post it.  (I will either text or pm a word of support every day to individuals that I feel support from and have become close quit friends.)  3.  I will continue to send a pm welcome to each newbie and offer my support and an offer to share #’s.  4. I will still occasionally make comments on serious matters of discussion in the various forums but will avoid posting for the purpose of stirring the pot.  (If the drama is to great I will avoid the subject all together it harms quits more than it helps sometimes)  5. I will concentrate on strengthening the relationship that I have with my fellow July brothers, and reach out to them to see that we all stay quit each day.  6.  I have worked hard on gaining the trust of my wife over the past 125 days and I am going to really be working on the already great relationship that we have to make it more honest and open.  I have lied to and deceived her for far too long and she deserves to have more of my attention.
I realize that from time to time we need to make changes and I am smart enough to recognize if I need to make more adjustments to this plan.  I really can never express my appreciation to so many indidviduals here enough.

You are one badass SOB! Am proud to know you, and even prouder to be able to call you a terrific friend!!! 'Cheers'

To be able to reflect, identify, and adjust is what makes the best of the best. You sir, right here, have shown you have that innate ability to do just that.

Proud as hell to be QLAFM with you today and every day that follows.

[Roamcountry]

Profile and Personality of a Quitter
Because of the fact that we addicts come from every walk of life, age, race, religion and sex it would be impossible to give a set profile or personality trait of a quitter. We are each one individuals and unique just as we are in every other aspect of life. That means that the way we react to quitting is also unique to us. I may rage at something you withdraw from. I may have a strong crave to a trigger that you wouldnÂ’t be bothered by, and so on. There are only 2 things that I can think of that all of us have in common. They are we are all addicted to nicotine and we all have a desire to quit it and never go back. Even this second thing we have in common varies greatly, that is evident by the energy that is put into the quit. We see individuals that fail and cave after only a day or two, others cave after years. We cannot change anything about being addicts but we can change the degree that we desire to quit. Most retreads that return have an increased desire, they have reevaluated their quit. Some of us have been addicted longer and have an increased understanding of how enslaved we have been and also realize that we arenÂ’t as invincible as we thought we were in our younger years. It is my opinion that the worse the pain of withdrawal (the suck) is the more you will want to remain quit. Time has a tendency to make us forget things, that goes for the suck. We must find ways to keep it fresh in our minds so if we start thinking that we could sneak just one dip, the next thing that we should think about is that first 2 weeks of SUCK!!!

Adjustment to my Quit Plan
The real purpose of this update to my intro is to make an explanation to my current status. I have several personal issues that are bearing down on me and need to be placed high on my priority list. I have realized that one of my personality traits is that I really hate conflict and that when I am among so many different individuals I have a tendency to do one of two things either I withdraw from controversy or I over-react and say and do things I regret later. When I react in either of these ways my quit is weakened. Because of this IÂ’ve come to the conclusion that I needed to make some adjustments to my Quit Plan. 1. I will post my quit promise as early as possible every day in my July 2012 group (IÂ’m committed to 100 % for another 75 days) 2. My support to other months is still there even if I donÂ’t post it. (I will either text or pm a word of support every day to individuals that I feel support from and have become close quit friends.) 3. I will continue to send a pm welcome to each newbie and offer my support and an offer to share #Â’s. 4. I will still occasionally make comments on serious matters of discussion in the various forums but will avoid posting for the purpose of stirring the pot. (If the drama is to great I will avoid the subject all together it harms quits more than it helps sometimes) 5. I will concentrate on strengthening the relationship that I have with my fellow July brothers, and reach out to them to see that we all stay quit each day. 6. I have worked hard on gaining the trust of my wife over the past 125 days and I am going to really be working on the already great relationship that we have to make it more honest and open. I have lied to and deceived her for far too long and she deserves to have more of my attention.
I realize that from time to time we need to make changes and I am smart enough to recognize if I need to make more adjustments to this plan. I really can never express my appreciation to so many indidviduals here enough.

You are one badass SOB! Am proud to know you, and even prouder to be able to call you a terrific friend!!! 'Cheers'

[Wt57]

Profile and Personality of a Quitter
Because of the fact that we addicts come from every walk of life, age, race, religion and sex it would be impossible to give a set profile or personality trait of a quitter. We are each one individuals and unique just as we are in every other aspect of life. That means that the way we react to quitting is also unique to us. I may rage at something you withdraw from. I may have a strong crave to a trigger that you wouldnÂ’t be bothered by, and so on. There are only 2 things that I can think of that all of us have in common. They are we are all addicted to nicotine and we all have a desire to quit it and never go back. Even this second thing we have in common varies greatly, that is evident by the energy that is put into the quit. We see individuals that fail and cave after only a day or two, others cave after years. We cannot change anything about being addicts but we can change the degree that we desire to quit. Most retreads that return have an increased desire, they have reevaluated their quit. Some of us have been addicted longer and have an increased understanding of how enslaved we have been and also realize that we arenÂ’t as invincible as we thought we were in our younger years. It is my opinion that the worse the pain of withdrawal (the suck) is the more you will want to remain quit. Time has a tendency to make us forget things, that goes for the suck. We must find ways to keep it fresh in our minds so if we start thinking that we could sneak just one dip, the next thing that we should think about is that first 2 weeks of SUCK!!!

Adjustment to my Quit Plan
The real purpose of this update to my intro is to make an explanation to my current status. I have several personal issues that are bearing down on me and need to be placed high on my priority list. I have realized that one of my personality traits is that I really hate conflict and that when I am among so many different individuals I have a tendency to do one of two things either I withdraw from controversy or I over-react and say and do things I regret later. When I react in either of these ways my quit is weakened. Because of this IÂ’ve come to the conclusion that I needed to make some adjustments to my Quit Plan. 1. I will post my quit promise as early as possible every day in my July 2012 group (IÂ’m committed to 100 % for another 75 days) 2. My support to other months is still there even if I donÂ’t post it. (I will either text or pm a word of support every day to individuals that I feel support from and have become close quit friends.) 3. I will continue to send a pm welcome to each newbie and offer my support and an offer to share #Â’s. 4. I will still occasionally make comments on serious matters of discussion in the various forums but will avoid posting for the purpose of stirring the pot. (If the drama is to great I will avoid the subject all together it harms quits more than it helps sometimes) 5. I will concentrate on strengthening the relationship that I have with my fellow July brothers, and reach out to them to see that we all stay quit each day. 6. I have worked hard on gaining the trust of my wife over the past 125 days and I am going to really be working on the already great relationship that we have to make it more honest and open. I have lied to and deceived her for far too long and she deserves to have more of my attention.
I realize that from time to time we need to make changes and I am smart enough to recognize if I need to make more adjustments to this plan. I really can never express my appreciation to so many indidviduals here enough.

[raiderx]

I've been thinking about this post lately and decided to revisit it and edit it to my current quit prospective. The original post was on my 69th day that was 50 days ago.  Not much has changed!

ONE DAY (unit) AT A TIME!

What a simple concept, almost too simple to take serious until you think about it. 

Life is about one day at a time.  Each of our lives began as one day at a time.  One word, one step, one friend,  some of the days were rewarding and successful others not so much. (I’ve been working on this one for 55 yrs)

Those of you that are married: marriage is one day at a time, some fun and rewarding others difficult and depressing. (IÂ’ve been working on this one for 32 yr)

Raising children:  One exciting moment and success after another,  stumbles and falls, ups and downs, happy days and really sad days.  One sleepless night after another when they are newborn to one sleepless night after another when they are teens. (I’ve been working on this one for 31 yrs)

Addiction to NICOTINE:  That happened one day (one pinch) at a time;  I seriously doubt that any of you started dipping a full can a day.  For me it was probably a small pinch every day or two, then a pinch a day,  a pinch two or three times a day, Till I had the shit in my mouth literally 24/7.  (I’ve been working on this one for nearly 40 yrs.)

QUIT:  Why should our quit be any different?  Simply stated it can’t be. Quitting our addiction to nicotine is a process, a long process, one day at a time.  It may end up being one minute at a time when we first start the process.  Remember ONE UNIT AT A TIME.  One day, one minute, one success, one triumph, one crave, one trigger, one cry, one rage , etc. (I’ve been working on this one for 119 days)

When each day ends I will continue to examine how I preformed that day and how I can improve on it, when I report in the next day.  This is the process of Life, Live it to your greatest potential and be proud of your accomplishments.  I have got to say that I am proud of my quit and proud to be quit with each of you addicts.  Because of my addiction I haven't allowed myself to be proud of much for a very long time.  I'm proud of my 1st 100 days.  And I continue to be poud of everyday!  I've also got to add I am proud of each quit day each of you post!  We are brothers and sisters in this and just like I encourage and support my family in life and feel joy in their successes and pain in their failures, I Feel these same things with you my quit family!

QUIT:  Why should our quit be any different?  Simply stated it can’t be. Quitting our addiction to nicotine is a process, a long process, one day at a time.  It may end up being one minute at a time when we first start the process.  Remember ONE UNIT AT A TIME.   One day, one minute, one success, one triumph, one crave, one trigger, one cry, one rage , etc. (I’ve been working on this one for 119 days)

Well Put WT! This was Hall of Fame worthy man! Thanks for everything! Gooch

Say it brother. Right on the money

[mikegooch]

I've been thinking about this post lately and decided to revisit it and edit it to my current quit prospective. The original post was on my 69th day that was 50 days ago. Not much has changed!

ONE DAY (unit) AT A TIME!

What a simple concept, almost too simple to take serious until you think about it.

Life is about one day at a time. Each of our lives began as one day at a time. One word, one step, one friend, some of the days were rewarding and successful others not so much. (IÂ’ve been working on this one for 55 yrs)

Those of you that are married: marriage is one day at a time, some fun and rewarding others difficult and depressing. (IÂ’ve been working on this one for 32 yr)

Raising children: One exciting moment and success after another, stumbles and falls, ups and downs, happy days and really sad days. One sleepless night after another when they are newborn to one sleepless night after another when they are teens. (IÂ’ve been working on this one for 31 yrs)

Addiction to NICOTINE: That happened one day (one pinch) at a time; I seriously doubt that any of you started dipping a full can a day. For me it was probably a small pinch every day or two, then a pinch a day, a pinch two or three times a day, Till I had the shit in my mouth literally 24/7. (IÂ’ve been working on this one for nearly 40 yrs.)

QUIT: Why should our quit be any different? Simply stated it canÂ’t be. Quitting our addiction to nicotine is a process, a long process, one day at a time. It may end up being one minute at a time when we first start the process. Remember ONE UNIT AT A TIME. One day, one minute, one success, one triumph, one crave, one trigger, one cry, one rage , etc. (IÂ’ve been working on this one for 119 days)

When each day ends I will continue to examine how I preformed that day and how I can improve on it, when I report in the next day. This is the process of Life, Live it to your greatest potential and be proud of your accomplishments. I have got to say that I am proud of my quit and proud to be quit with each of you addicts. Because of my addiction I haven't allowed myself to be proud of much for a very long time. I'm proud of my 1st 100 days. And I continue to be poud of everyday! I've also got to add I am proud of each quit day each of you post! We are brothers and sisters in this and just like I encourage and support my family in life and feel joy in their successes and pain in their failures, I Feel these same things with you my quit family!

QUIT:  Why should our quit be any different?  Simply stated it can’t be. Quitting our addiction to nicotine is a process, a long process, one day at a time.  It may end up being one minute at a time when we first start the process.  Remember ONE UNIT AT A TIME.  One day, one minute, one success, one triumph, one crave, one trigger, one cry, one rage , etc. (I’ve been working on this one for 119 days)

Well Put WT! This was Hall of Fame worthy man! Thanks for everything! Gooch

[Wt57]

I've been thinking about this post lately and decided to revisit it and edit it to my current quit prospective. The original post was on my 69th day that was 50 days ago. Not much has changed!

ONE DAY (unit) AT A TIME!

What a simple concept, almost too simple to take serious until you think about it.

Life is about one day at a time. Each of our lives began as one day at a time. One word, one step, one friend, some of the days were rewarding and successful others not so much. (IÂ’ve been working on this one for 55 yrs)

Those of you that are married: marriage is one day at a time, some fun and rewarding others difficult and depressing. (IÂ’ve been working on this one for 32 yr)

Raising children: One exciting moment and success after another, stumbles and falls, ups and downs, happy days and really sad days. One sleepless night after another when they are newborn to one sleepless night after another when they are teens. (IÂ’ve been working on this one for 31 yrs)

Addiction to NICOTINE: That happened one day (one pinch) at a time; I seriously doubt that any of you started dipping a full can a day. For me it was probably a small pinch every day or two, then a pinch a day, a pinch two or three times a day, Till I had the shit in my mouth literally 24/7. (IÂ’ve been working on this one for nearly 40 yrs.)

QUIT: Why should our quit be any different? Simply stated it canÂ’t be. Quitting our addiction to nicotine is a process, a long process, one day at a time. It may end up being one minute at a time when we first start the process. Remember ONE UNIT AT A TIME. One day, one minute, one success, one triumph, one crave, one trigger, one cry, one rage , etc. (IÂ’ve been working on this one for 119 days)

When each day ends I will continue to examine how I preformed that day and how I can improve on it, when I report in the next day. This is the process of Life, Live it to your greatest potential and be proud of your accomplishments. I have got to say that I am proud of my quit and proud to be quit with each of you addicts. Because of my addiction I haven't allowed myself to be proud of much for a very long time. I'm proud of my 1st 100 days. And I continue to be poud of everyday! I've also got to add I am proud of each quit day each of you post! We are brothers and sisters in this and just like I encourage and support my family in life and feel joy in their successes and pain in their failures, I Feel these same things with you my quit family!

[Wt57]

Fellow quitters last night I called for a ban on some trolls on line. I've reconsidered and decided the best option is to not give them recognition let them disappear on on page 2 and beyond. Join me in bumping true quitters up ahead of the trolls!

sounds good so how do you want to do this some random page bumping???

let me know bro!

Just quote to those true quitters that are below the trolls and bump their intro to top of page!! Especially newbies!!!

[Grizzly25]

Fellow quitters last night I called for a ban on some trolls on line. I've reconsidered and decided the best option is to not give them recognition let them disappear on on page 2 and beyond. Join me in bumping true quitters up ahead of the trolls!

sounds good so how do you want to do this some random page bumping???

let me know bro!

[Wt57]

Fellow quitters last night I called for a ban on some trolls on line. I've reconsidered and decided the best option is to not give them recognition let them disappear on on page 2 and beyond. Join me in bumping true quitters up ahead of the trolls!

[Wt57]

This is for my fellow July Freedom lovin' Junkies (The Brotherhood of Quit)
I posted there but I wanted to make sure my challenge didn't get lost.


Quitters I've been struggling with a question the past few days. As most of you know I've been an addict for nearly 40 years and had many attempts to quit. Some of my attempts have lasted days, weeks and one even lasted 3 1/2 years. So the question: What is different this time? And I can say with true conviction it is different, I feel it, I know it and I am totally convinced that it is forever. That doesn't mean that I don't have to be here everyday and make that promise and commitment, I DO! As July has passed the 1/2 way point in the month and many of us have reached the Hall my excitement for each one of us as our day approaches intensifies. It doesn't matter if it is Kubrick's 117 or Liberdaves 86 The excitement is the same we are brothers!

Back to my question and why I'm asking it of myself. I believe that it has been spurred on by some caves! I have started questioning my commitment! I think the bitch has been trying all the windows and doors trying to find a opening into my quit. I had all of my canned answers as to why I quit but what was the real reason and what makes it different from all the other feeble attempts?

I have concluded that there isn't just one answer but several:
1. I was truly ready to quit, I wanted it, I had actually wanted it for about 6 months. But I hadn't tried because I couldn't live with another failed attempt, I already felt like a total failure at everything.
2. I didn't do it for my wife, even though I felt a need to be there for her through her daily health challenges. But I brought her into it with me after the ceremonial flushing of the dip and my morning process were over.
3. Probably the most important reason it is successful for me is that I brought my Savior into the process with me, (He brought me into the process by leading me to KTC) I have got to say that many of the previous times I had prayed for help but I wanted Him to do the work while I stood back and watched. I doesn't work that way!
4. KTC, it works! BROTHERHOOD  ACCOUNTABILITY = SUCCESS. Reaching the 100 day mark is true accomplishment in our addicted lives, but it isn't a reason to slack off. If anything it is more vital that we stick close together.

I don't know if I will ever reach the point of feeling safe to go without posting roll. For now that doesn't matter, I need it. I'm not able to live a nicotine free life without having an army behind me to help me with the daily battles! I know that is true for most if not all of us and challenge you to join with me in committing to 200 days! Men we have come too far to let our guard down, The war has just begun, lets join together to continue fighting the daily battles that present themselves.
Many of you have added your names to the top of the page committing to the 200 days lets get everyone there!

[mikegooch]

I have been thinking about one of my many caves over the years.  The particular cave that I was thinking about occurred in the spring of 1984.  I had been dealing with some pretty stressful times at home and at work.  I had been nicotine free for about 3 1/2 yrs.  I remember buying a can of copensnuff and fondling the can....  I still remember a lot of the thoughts that went through my head...  I don't think that I even opened the can the 1st day.. ..... I knew that I shouldn't do it! But the cave had been planned. The inevitable happened,  I eventually convinced myself that I could be a casual dipper only using when I had really stressful days.  WRONG!  That first dip and I was flat on my stomach being banged in the ass by the nic bitch nonstop.  Soon I was using more and more often that I ever had.  My next personal rationalization was that I would stop when things got easier.  And on and on and on!  This was followed by numerous half-assed attempts to stop, most of them because my wife caught me red handed. 

Tonight I set at this keyboard and the emotions are so very close to the surface, not because I miss the old companion, not because I am overwhelmed with a satisfaction of accomplishment,  but my reason is something that can only be understood by one who has stayed on this path of quit and joined with his or her fellow addicts to grind this addiction into the ground and "are" drinking deeply of the kool aid.  It is the BROTHERHOOD, ACCOUNTABILITY and SUCCESS that we find here.  Damn I love all of you for helping me and allowing me to help you!  May we always remember where we have come from and what we have accomplished.  May we also remember that we didn't do it alone! And most important of all "WE DO IT ONE DAY AT A TIME".

Hats off to WT... He may just be the best quitter on KTC!! Thanks Man.. Gooch

[Wt57]

I have been thinking about one of my many caves over the years. The particular cave that I was thinking about occurred in the spring of 1984. I had been dealing with some pretty stressful times at home and at work. I had been nicotine free for about 3 1/2 yrs. I remember buying a can of copensnuff and fondling the can.... I still remember a lot of the thoughts that went through my head... I don't think that I even opened the can the 1st day.. ..... I knew that I shouldn't do it! But the cave had been planned. The inevitable happened, I eventually convinced myself that I could be a casual dipper only using when I had really stressful days. WRONG! That first dip and I was flat on my stomach being banged in the ass by the nic bitch nonstop. Soon I was using more and more often that I ever had. My next personal rationalization was that I would stop when things got easier. And on and on and on! This was followed by numerous half-assed attempts to stop, most of them because my wife caught me red handed.

Tonight I set at this keyboard and the emotions are so very close to the surface, not because I miss the old companion, not because I am overwhelmed with a satisfaction of accomplishment, but my reason is something that can only be understood by one who has stayed on this path of quit and joined with his or her fellow addicts to grind this addiction into the ground and "are" drinking deeply of the kool aid. It is the BROTHERHOOD, ACCOUNTABILITY and SUCCESS that we find here. Damn I love all of you for helping me and allowing me to help you! May we always remember where we have come from and what we have accomplished. May we also remember that we didn't do it alone! And most important of all "WE DO IT ONE DAY AT A TIME".

[mikegooch]

Man.. I am proud to be quit with you! I don't know anybody that I see making more posts than you..  I do not know anybody that has helped my more.. Thanks! Gooch

[Wt57]

everyone thank you my Internet is not working I'll try to get back to everyone as soon as its working again