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Re: General Discussion - 2016
« Reply #521 on: September 14, 2016, 09:34:00 AM »
Don't look now, but the forums just passed 28,000 registered members!

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Re: General Discussion - 2016
« Reply #520 on: September 12, 2016, 02:35:00 PM »
This is why we go cold turkey:
Just another news article about drug companies tailoring studies to remove warning labels.
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2016/09/1 ... study.html

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Re: General Discussion - 2016
« Reply #519 on: September 10, 2016, 09:04:00 PM »
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Looking at some of the stupid bullshit we argue about in our young quit groups...I just realized is part of the genius of this site.....if we are focused on stupid shit we will not focus on how bad the craves suck early in the quit
It is very true, never thought about it that way until now. if you spend more time on here especially in the beginning you keep a strong focus on your quit and less on craves.
And you two fine gentlemen just hit on one of the keys to this place.....find something else to occupy your addict brains so you're not obsessing over the fact you're not dipping/chewing. Well done!

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Re: General Discussion - 2016
« Reply #518 on: September 10, 2016, 04:13:00 PM »
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Looking at some of the stupid bullshit we argue about in our young quit groups...I just realized is part of the genius of this site.....if we are focused on stupid shit we will not focus on how bad the craves suck early in the quit
It is very true, never thought about it that way until now. if you spend more time on here especially in the beginning you keep a strong focus on your quit and less on craves.
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Re: General Discussion - 2016
« Reply #517 on: September 10, 2016, 03:17:00 PM »
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Looking at some of the stupid bullshit we argue about in our young quit groups...I just realized is part of the genius of this site.....if we are focused on stupid shit we will not focus on how bad the craves suck early in the quit
It is very true, never thought about it that way until now. if you spend more time on here especially in the beginning you keep a strong focus on your quit and less on craves.
9/6/2016

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Re: General Discussion - 2016
« Reply #516 on: September 10, 2016, 12:55:00 PM »
Looking at some of the stupid bullshit we argue about in our young quit groups...I just realized is part of the genius of this site.....if we are focused on stupid shit we will not focus on how bad the craves suck early in the quit

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Re: General Discussion - 2016
« Reply #515 on: September 08, 2016, 03:23:00 AM »
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So I've been on here for awhile but haven't really posted anything, mainly out of not knowing where to post and how to even log on. I've been free of nicotine and dip since 8:35AM on March 25, 2016. This is the longest I have ever been without it. I do still have cravings but they usually subside by the time I'm able to go out of the house or away from work. Let me know how and where to post roll and what not. I'm dedicated to not dip. It's not worth it
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Re: General Discussion - 2016
« Reply #514 on: September 07, 2016, 10:40:00 PM »
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Just wanted to check in and introduce myself. Came across the site while on Jake's Mint Chew. I have been nicotine free for 9 days and I pretty much owe my success to Jake's. It has made the process much more tolerable as I feel like I was just used to having something in my lip.

I look forward to interacting here and learning how this site works.

Thanks for having me.
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Re: General Discussion - 2016
« Reply #513 on: September 07, 2016, 10:08:00 PM »
Just wanted to check in and introduce myself. Came across the site while on Jake's Mint Chew. I have been nicotine free for 9 days and I pretty much owe my success to Jake's. It has made the process much more tolerable as I feel like I was just used to having something in my lip.

I look forward to interacting here and learning how this site works.

Thanks for having me.

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Re: General Discussion - 2016
« Reply #512 on: September 07, 2016, 11:02:00 AM »
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Is Smokey Mountain herbal chew safe? No cancer causing agents?
Safe.

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Re: General Discussion - 2016
« Reply #511 on: September 07, 2016, 11:01:00 AM »
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m new here and not sure where I should post this. But here goes. I've been quit for about 3 months now. And I was wondering about how long it should take the leukoplakia to heal. Also I've been chewing the Smoky Mountain and was wondering if there's anything harmful with that and if that would possibly slow down the healing. Any experience with any either of these please let me know. Thank you. And how do I know if anyone replies and where do I check?
I've been using the Hooch herbal snuff mainly, but I have used Smokey Mountain. If I use too much Hooch, my gums get really irritated; sometimes worse than with the Copenhagen. Smokey Mountain contains molasses, so it will rot your teeth I would guess. Anything to keep the nicotine out of my mouth is how I feel about it right now. I'll worry about quitting the Hooch later.
Any ideas about how long the leukoplakia takes to heal. My denist said about 6 months. I'd say mines about half healed. Just curious what others experience is.
I don't have an answer for you on how long. Mine cleared up right away, but comes back a little if I chew a lot of Hooch. I would guess that the fake chew could be causing more irritation in your case. I'm no expert though.

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Re: General Discussion - 2016
« Reply #510 on: September 07, 2016, 10:57:00 AM »
Is Smokey Mountain herbal chew safe? No cancer causing agents?

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Re: General Discussion - 2016
« Reply #509 on: September 07, 2016, 08:42:00 AM »
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So I've been on here for awhile but haven't really posted anything, mainly out of not knowing where to post and how to even log on. I've been free of nicotine and dip since 8:35AM on March 25, 2016. This is the longest I have ever been without it. I do still have cravings but they usually subside by the time I'm able to go out of the house or away from work. Let me know how and where to post roll and what not. I'm dedicated to not dip. It's not worth it
Welcome and congrats on 160+ days of bad assery!

Based on your quit date, you're a part of the June 2016 HOF class - topic/11568995/

Stop by and introduce yourself!

Chewie
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Re: General Discussion - 2016
« Reply #508 on: September 07, 2016, 02:02:00 AM »
So I've been on here for awhile but haven't really posted anything, mainly out of not knowing where to post and how to even log on. I've been free of nicotine and dip since 8:35AM on March 25, 2016. This is the longest I have ever been without it. I do still have cravings but they usually subside by the time I'm able to go out of the house or away from work. Let me know how and where to post roll and what not. I'm dedicated to not dip. It's not worth it

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Re: General Discussion - 2016
« Reply #507 on: September 07, 2016, 12:31:00 AM »
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I am at day 123. Although I never joined a quit group I do like to poke around the site.

A topic I have always wondered about but haven't seen much about - does dipping cause gastrointestinal problems?

It seemed to give me frequent heartburn and acid indigestion. It also made me poop at least twice as often. I swear I could throw in an after dinner dip and be on the toilet before I finished the chew. It is hard for me to isolate the chew as the cause since I was doing it for 25 years. But I am pretty sure I got immediate relief of these issues from quitting. But everything is so cloudy and unfortunately my drinking and diet have become worse since quitting
Nicotine is a stimulant and can act as a stimulant on the digestive system (IE a laxative).

I can tell you from personal experience that my acid reflux / GERD actually got WAY worse for a few weeks (months?) after I quit, but then subsided. It got better to the point that I no longer take any of my acid reflux meds (I was on Prilosec and Nexium as well as a slew of OTC stuff).

These days I rarely if ever get any sort of acid reflux and that's only cause I've eaten (or drank) way too much and a Tums (or something similar) will generally take care of it).

That's not even delving into the issues of swallowing dip spit. Even if you didn't "gut it" you were still ingesting trace amounts of nicotine laced saliva. We recently lost one of our own - traumagnet - who was a "gutter". He felt till his dying days that his cancer was due to swallowing all those years. (RIP Todd http://blog.killthecan.org/2016/08/rest ... raumagnet/ )

Probably more than you were looking for... to answer your question more succinctly: "Does dipping cause gastrointestinal problems?"

I'd say unequivocally "yes".

Chewie
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